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Edmonton cemetery #unitedkingdom

NJ55TURTLE@...
 

Hello,

Is there a Londoner who can help me with the Federation Cemetery at Edmonton?

I am looking for any information the cemetery may have and/or a picture of the grave of a Hyman HYMAN, who died on July 18, 1906 at the age of 57. He is buried in plot F-4.

If by chance the above is not the correct person, then maybe the Hyman HYMAN I am seeking, is the one who died in 1915, and is buried in row A-8 at the Elawisk Cemetery in Newcastle Community. The same information is requested.

Thank you.

Stephen Pickholtz
Tabernacle, New Jersey
USA
E-mail nj55turtle@aol.com
searching-- PICKHOLTZ (all spellings) and WINITSKY (all spellings)
JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Edmonton cemetery #unitedkingdom

NJ55TURTLE@...
 

Hello,

Is there a Londoner who can help me with the Federation Cemetery at Edmonton?

I am looking for any information the cemetery may have and/or a picture of the grave of a Hyman HYMAN, who died on July 18, 1906 at the age of 57. He is buried in plot F-4.

If by chance the above is not the correct person, then maybe the Hyman HYMAN I am seeking, is the one who died in 1915, and is buried in row A-8 at the Elawisk Cemetery in Newcastle Community. The same information is requested.

Thank you.

Stephen Pickholtz
Tabernacle, New Jersey
USA
E-mail nj55turtle@aol.com
searching-- PICKHOLTZ (all spellings) and WINITSKY (all spellings)
Re: Photo Gallery #ciechanow #poland

Allan E Mallenbaum <aem@...>
 

Stan,

It's a great idea.

If you have no one else you can entrust it to, I'll take a stab
at it.

If there's someone else who you want to give it to, I'll be glad
to assist.

There shouldn't be a "cut-off" date. The "gallery" could have three
"wings" or exhibition halls. Pre-WWI. Pre-WWII. Post-WWII (Modern
Judenrein wing.)

-- Allan

stan@firstport.com wrote:

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Dear group,

On a few occasions people have sent me photos >from Ciechanow. I was thinking
of setting up a photo gallery on the Ciechanow web page. I would like to get
some input >from the group on this in terms of the what the cut off year should
be in terms of when a photo was taken. General comments, suggestions and ideas
would be appreciated. If you have a collection of Ciechanow photos I would like
to hear about it. One photo I recently received is of the train station - a
wooden structure with a sign saying "Ciechanow". Maybe there is someone in the
group who wants to take an active role in this project. The process of
developing the feature involves: photo selection, arranging for the photo
donors to sign donor agreements, and setting the photos on an html page.
Re: Photo Gallery #ciechanow #poland

Lewis Coleman
 

----- Original Message -----
From: <stan@firstport.com>
To: "Ciechanow Research Group" <ciechanow@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:24 AM
Subject: Photo Gallery


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Dear group,

On a few occasions people have sent me photos >from Ciechanow. I was
thinking
of setting up a photo gallery on the Ciechanow web page. I would like to
get
some input >from the group on this in terms of the what the cut off year
should
be in terms of when a photo was taken. General comments, suggestions and
ideas
would be appreciated. If you have a collection of Ciechanow photos I would
like
to hear about it. One photo I recently received is of the train station -
a
wooden structure with a sign saying "Ciechanow". Maybe there is someone
in the
group who wants to take an active role in this project. The process of
developing the feature involves: photo selection, arranging for the photo
donors to sign donor agreements, and setting the photos on an html page.

Hope to hear >from some of you on this.

Stan Zeidenberg
Toronto, Canada
Co-ordinator, Ciechanow Research Group

To post to the Ciechanow Research discussion group, send your message to:
<ciechanow@lyris.jewishgen.org>

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JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
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You are currently subscribed to ciechanow as: lewcole@bigpond.com.
Dear Stan,
It sounds like a good idea as I'm sure thaty many of us who have/had family
from Ciechanow would appreciate having access to fmamily members
long departed.

My families are ROBOTA, SREBNAGORA (Silverman) aand maybe
ZILBERSEIN (>from Lodz ) and SCHMID (Anglecized to Smith), and Mallenbaum.
I am still researching many of these names.

My GGGF Robota was born circa 1820's and a few direct descendants are living
in the U.S. with surnames which were originally ROBOTA, now ROBOT or ROBOTS
or
even MORRIS (GGGF). Others were ed in the Holocaust, of which the
Yiskor Book for Ciechanow has all the names (Rosa Robota was my 2nd cousin
which I only found out about 10 years ago).

Hope to hear >from the Group...
Best regards - Lewis (Robota Siulverman) Coleman - Melbourne VIC Australia
#Ciechanow #Poland Re: Photo Gallery #ciechanow #poland

Allan E Mallenbaum <aem@...>
 

Stan,

It's a great idea.

If you have no one else you can entrust it to, I'll take a stab
at it.

If there's someone else who you want to give it to, I'll be glad
to assist.

There shouldn't be a "cut-off" date. The "gallery" could have three
"wings" or exhibition halls. Pre-WWI. Pre-WWII. Post-WWII (Modern
Judenrein wing.)

-- Allan

stan@firstport.com wrote:

This list is supported by JewishGen. Please show
your appreciation and support by visiting
http://www.jewishgen.org/Jewishgen-erosity/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dear group,

On a few occasions people have sent me photos >from Ciechanow. I was thinking
of setting up a photo gallery on the Ciechanow web page. I would like to get
some input >from the group on this in terms of the what the cut off year should
be in terms of when a photo was taken. General comments, suggestions and ideas
would be appreciated. If you have a collection of Ciechanow photos I would like
to hear about it. One photo I recently received is of the train station - a
wooden structure with a sign saying "Ciechanow". Maybe there is someone in the
group who wants to take an active role in this project. The process of
developing the feature involves: photo selection, arranging for the photo
donors to sign donor agreements, and setting the photos on an html page.
#Ciechanow #Poland Re: Photo Gallery #ciechanow #poland

Lewis Coleman
 

----- Original Message -----
From: <stan@firstport.com>
To: "Ciechanow Research Group" <ciechanow@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:24 AM
Subject: Photo Gallery


This list is supported by JewishGen. Please show
your appreciation and support by visiting
http://www.jewishgen.org/Jewishgen-erosity/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dear group,

On a few occasions people have sent me photos >from Ciechanow. I was
thinking
of setting up a photo gallery on the Ciechanow web page. I would like to
get
some input >from the group on this in terms of the what the cut off year
should
be in terms of when a photo was taken. General comments, suggestions and
ideas
would be appreciated. If you have a collection of Ciechanow photos I would
like
to hear about it. One photo I recently received is of the train station -
a
wooden structure with a sign saying "Ciechanow". Maybe there is someone
in the
group who wants to take an active role in this project. The process of
developing the feature involves: photo selection, arranging for the photo
donors to sign donor agreements, and setting the photos on an html page.

Hope to hear >from some of you on this.

Stan Zeidenberg
Toronto, Canada
Co-ordinator, Ciechanow Research Group

To post to the Ciechanow Research discussion group, send your message to:
<ciechanow@lyris.jewishgen.org>

This research group (ciechanow@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

You are currently subscribed to ciechanow as: lewcole@bigpond.com.
Dear Stan,
It sounds like a good idea as I'm sure thaty many of us who have/had family
from Ciechanow would appreciate having access to fmamily members
long departed.

My families are ROBOTA, SREBNAGORA (Silverman) aand maybe
ZILBERSEIN (>from Lodz ) and SCHMID (Anglecized to Smith), and Mallenbaum.
I am still researching many of these names.

My GGGF Robota was born circa 1820's and a few direct descendants are living
in the U.S. with surnames which were originally ROBOTA, now ROBOT or ROBOTS
or
even MORRIS (GGGF). Others were ed in the Holocaust, of which the
Yiskor Book for Ciechanow has all the names (Rosa Robota was my 2nd cousin
which I only found out about 10 years ago).

Hope to hear >from the Group...
Best regards - Lewis (Robota Siulverman) Coleman - Melbourne VIC Australia
Searching ROSENBUSCH in South Africa #germany

Itta'i Malbin <malbin@...>
 

MOD NOTE: According to the database at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm
there are 49 towns in Germany with the name Neustadt. Need I say more?

My g-g-uncle Moses KANTER (b. 1871 in Neustadt) emigrated to South Africa in
1938 (with his wife Hermine MARBURGER and their daughter Frieda KANTER (b.
1899, Neustadt, d. 1984).
Frieda married Bernhard Leopold ROSENBUSCH (b. 1893, d. 1960) and they had
at least one son Herbert ROSENBUSCH (b. 1923, Marburg, d. 1979,
Johannesburg).

Looking for any information about the descendents of the people mentioned above.

Itta'i Malbin (city ??? )

MOD NOTE: The following was not deleted only because it may help identify
a town mentioned in the message. Family names being researched should be
typed in ALL CAPS every time in every part of every message posted here.
Lists (like the following) that don't comply with our guidelines are deleted
by the Moderator. ======>
Searching:
Emmerich, Katz, Neuhaus, Nussbaum - Rotenburg a.d.F; Baumbach, Germany.
Kanter, Furst - Neustadt (Hesse); Kassel, Germany.
German SIG #Germany Searching ROSENBUSCH in South Africa #germany

Itta'i Malbin <malbin@...>
 

MOD NOTE: According to the database at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm
there are 49 towns in Germany with the name Neustadt. Need I say more?

My g-g-uncle Moses KANTER (b. 1871 in Neustadt) emigrated to South Africa in
1938 (with his wife Hermine MARBURGER and their daughter Frieda KANTER (b.
1899, Neustadt, d. 1984).
Frieda married Bernhard Leopold ROSENBUSCH (b. 1893, d. 1960) and they had
at least one son Herbert ROSENBUSCH (b. 1923, Marburg, d. 1979,
Johannesburg).

Looking for any information about the descendents of the people mentioned above.

Itta'i Malbin (city ??? )

MOD NOTE: The following was not deleted only because it may help identify
a town mentioned in the message. Family names being researched should be
typed in ALL CAPS every time in every part of every message posted here.
Lists (like the following) that don't comply with our guidelines are deleted
by the Moderator. ======>
Searching:
Emmerich, Katz, Neuhaus, Nussbaum - Rotenburg a.d.F; Baumbach, Germany.
Kanter, Furst - Neustadt (Hesse); Kassel, Germany.
BOF Groups-Gesher Galicia-Nov. 14th NYC #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Gesher Galicia is holding a regional meeting in New York City on:

SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 14TH
10:30AM-12:45PM

at the Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th St., New York City 10011

http:www.cjh.org

At the conclusion of the meeting, for those who are interested, we will be
breaking into optional Birds-of-a-Feather groups for lunch at neighborhood
restaurants.

For those of you not familiar with the BOF concept, the idea is to have
people researching a specific town or region to gather together for
networking, providing opportunities to compare research breakthroughs,
travel experiences, surnames and family histories, etc.

Gesher Galicia steering committee member, Eden Joachim, is organizing these
BOF groups in advance to facilitate planning. If you are interested in
participating in this post-meeting option, please send your name and town(s)
or regions(s) of interest to her at:

esjoachim@optonline.net

Replying "yes" to her is not an absolute commitment to attend, but will
assist with our planning. For everyone's convenience, we will be lunching
within walking distance of the Center, but there will not be any Kosher meal
options unless a few smaller groups lunch at the cafe located at the CJH. (A
sign-up list of lunch groups will also be available at the meeting.)

*Please note, however:

IF you are researching towns in the Suchostaw Region Reseach Group (SRRG)
and/or the Kolbuszowa Region Research Group (KRRG), Susana Bloch is
organizing a mutual lunch for those two larger groups. If you have not
already RSVPed, please do so directly to her at:

bloch@mts.net

If you are new to Galician research, and are not sure if your town falls in
one of her areas, visit the shtetl sites for more information:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Suchostaw/shtetl_list.htm

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kolbuszowa/

or read at the end of this message for towns included in those geographical
areas.

Specific program information for the Gesher Galicia meeting will be posted
on list shortly.

We look forward to seeing you.

Pamela Weisberger
Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@hotmail.com


The Suchostaw Region Research Group includes all shtetlach within the
following Administrative Districts (AD) and Judicial /Tax Districts
(Sub-Districts) (JD):


Borszczów (JD)
Buczacz (AD)
Czortków (AD)
Husiatyn (AD)
Ska?a (JD)
Ska?at (AD)
Tarnopol (AD)
Trembowla (AD)
Zaleszczyki (AD)
Zbara? (JD)

The Kolbuszowa Region Research Group (KRRG) includes all shtetlach within
an approximate 30 miles radius from Kolbuszowa.  Kolbuszowa is located at
latitude 50°15", longitude 21°46'

This region was situated in Galicia and part of the Austro- Hungarian
Empire. After WWI it became part of Poland. In 1999 Poland’s 49 Provinces
were reorganized into 16 new ones. Today the region covered by KRRG is
situated in the Podkarpacie Province (Voivodeship). Rzeszow is the capital
of the Province.

Some of the towns included in this region:
Blazowa, Debica, Kanczuga, Lancut, Lezajsk, Majdan, Mielec, Nisko, Pilzno,
Przeworsk, Ropczyce, Radomysl, Wielki, Rzeszow, Rozwadow, Rudnik, Sedziszow,
Sokolow Mlp., Strzyzow, Tarnobrzeg, Tyczyn, Ulanow and Zolynia
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia BOF Groups-Gesher Galicia-Nov. 14th NYC #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Gesher Galicia is holding a regional meeting in New York City on:

SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 14TH
10:30AM-12:45PM

at the Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th St., New York City 10011

http:www.cjh.org

At the conclusion of the meeting, for those who are interested, we will be
breaking into optional Birds-of-a-Feather groups for lunch at neighborhood
restaurants.

For those of you not familiar with the BOF concept, the idea is to have
people researching a specific town or region to gather together for
networking, providing opportunities to compare research breakthroughs,
travel experiences, surnames and family histories, etc.

Gesher Galicia steering committee member, Eden Joachim, is organizing these
BOF groups in advance to facilitate planning. If you are interested in
participating in this post-meeting option, please send your name and town(s)
or regions(s) of interest to her at:

esjoachim@optonline.net

Replying "yes" to her is not an absolute commitment to attend, but will
assist with our planning. For everyone's convenience, we will be lunching
within walking distance of the Center, but there will not be any Kosher meal
options unless a few smaller groups lunch at the cafe located at the CJH. (A
sign-up list of lunch groups will also be available at the meeting.)

*Please note, however:

IF you are researching towns in the Suchostaw Region Reseach Group (SRRG)
and/or the Kolbuszowa Region Research Group (KRRG), Susana Bloch is
organizing a mutual lunch for those two larger groups. If you have not
already RSVPed, please do so directly to her at:

bloch@mts.net

If you are new to Galician research, and are not sure if your town falls in
one of her areas, visit the shtetl sites for more information:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Suchostaw/shtetl_list.htm

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kolbuszowa/

or read at the end of this message for towns included in those geographical
areas.

Specific program information for the Gesher Galicia meeting will be posted
on list shortly.

We look forward to seeing you.

Pamela Weisberger
Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@hotmail.com


The Suchostaw Region Research Group includes all shtetlach within the
following Administrative Districts (AD) and Judicial /Tax Districts
(Sub-Districts) (JD):


Borszczów (JD)
Buczacz (AD)
Czortków (AD)
Husiatyn (AD)
Ska?a (JD)
Ska?at (AD)
Tarnopol (AD)
Trembowla (AD)
Zaleszczyki (AD)
Zbara? (JD)

The Kolbuszowa Region Research Group (KRRG) includes all shtetlach within
an approximate 30 miles radius from Kolbuszowa.  Kolbuszowa is located at
latitude 50°15", longitude 21°46'

This region was situated in Galicia and part of the Austro- Hungarian
Empire. After WWI it became part of Poland. In 1999 Poland’s 49 Provinces
were reorganized into 16 new ones. Today the region covered by KRRG is
situated in the Podkarpacie Province (Voivodeship). Rzeszow is the capital
of the Province.

Some of the towns included in this region:
Blazowa, Debica, Kanczuga, Lancut, Lezajsk, Majdan, Mielec, Nisko, Pilzno,
Przeworsk, Ropczyce, Radomysl, Wielki, Rzeszow, Rozwadow, Rudnik, Sedziszow,
Sokolow Mlp., Strzyzow, Tarnobrzeg, Tyczyn, Ulanow and Zolynia
Useful books for German Jewish research #germany

Esther Ramon
 

Dear Gersig,
Hereby I send a list of 3 books which might be useful to our members:
3 Useful books for German Jewish research:

Book N. 1)Biographisches Handbuch der Rabbiner
Herausgegeben von Michel Brocke und Julius Carlebach
Teil 1
Die Rabbiner der Emanzipationszeit in den deutschen, boehmischen und
grosspolnischen Laendern 1781-1871
Bearbeitet von Carsten Wilke.
K.G.Saur Muenchen 2004
Band 1 Sourced and Literature pp 5-33
Introduction pp 34-118
Entries: Aach to Juspa pp.496

Band 2 Kaempf-Zuckermann pp 497-935
Index of the places pp 935-963
For every entry if available they write: Dissertations, Publications,
Documents, Literature, Sources not published, Scholars, sources for
pictures.
For example for Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch there are 6 1\2 pages.

They intend to publish – Die Rabbiner im Deutschen Reich 1871-1945

Book N. 2)Handbuch oestrreichischer Autorinnen und Autoren juedischer Herkunft
18.-20. Jahrhundert Herausgegeben von der Oestrreichschen Nationalbibliothek
3 Volumes A-Z

Book N. 3) Lexicon deutsch-juedischer Autoren
Archiv Bibliographia Judaica
Bearbeitet von Katrin Nele Jansen
K.G.Saur Muenchen 2002 The last volune.

Till now appeared 11 volumes and the last entry is HIRS.

Esther Ramon ramon@actcom.co.il Jerusalem
German SIG #Germany Useful books for German Jewish research #germany

Esther Ramon
 

Dear Gersig,
Hereby I send a list of 3 books which might be useful to our members:
3 Useful books for German Jewish research:

Book N. 1)Biographisches Handbuch der Rabbiner
Herausgegeben von Michel Brocke und Julius Carlebach
Teil 1
Die Rabbiner der Emanzipationszeit in den deutschen, boehmischen und
grosspolnischen Laendern 1781-1871
Bearbeitet von Carsten Wilke.
K.G.Saur Muenchen 2004
Band 1 Sourced and Literature pp 5-33
Introduction pp 34-118
Entries: Aach to Juspa pp.496

Band 2 Kaempf-Zuckermann pp 497-935
Index of the places pp 935-963
For every entry if available they write: Dissertations, Publications,
Documents, Literature, Sources not published, Scholars, sources for
pictures.
For example for Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch there are 6 1\2 pages.

They intend to publish – Die Rabbiner im Deutschen Reich 1871-1945

Book N. 2)Handbuch oestrreichischer Autorinnen und Autoren juedischer Herkunft
18.-20. Jahrhundert Herausgegeben von der Oestrreichschen Nationalbibliothek
3 Volumes A-Z

Book N. 3) Lexicon deutsch-juedischer Autoren
Archiv Bibliographia Judaica
Bearbeitet von Katrin Nele Jansen
K.G.Saur Muenchen 2002 The last volune.

Till now appeared 11 volumes and the last entry is HIRS.

Esther Ramon ramon@actcom.co.il Jerusalem
Seeking JOSKOWICZ in Checiny #general

Mike Yoskovitz <myosko@...>
 

Just started getting interested in my Dad's background...he was born Jacob
Joskowicz (or similar spelling) in 1912 or so in Checiny in a family of 14
siblings..his Dad's name was Aron Wolf...was married pre-war..only
survivivor..married my mother Fela Pacanowska >from Lodz in 1945..had me in
1947..emigrated to Montreal in 1948..was a tailor by trade....passed away in
1975...since I'm new to this and don't have a real lot of info on him any
help would be great..
thx
Mike Yoskovitz
Montreal, Quebec
myosko@hotmail.com
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking JOSKOWICZ in Checiny #general

Mike Yoskovitz <myosko@...>
 

Just started getting interested in my Dad's background...he was born Jacob
Joskowicz (or similar spelling) in 1912 or so in Checiny in a family of 14
siblings..his Dad's name was Aron Wolf...was married pre-war..only
survivivor..married my mother Fela Pacanowska >from Lodz in 1945..had me in
1947..emigrated to Montreal in 1948..was a tailor by trade....passed away in
1975...since I'm new to this and don't have a real lot of info on him any
help would be great..
thx
Mike Yoskovitz
Montreal, Quebec
myosko@hotmail.com
Morton & Shirley (BANK/S) GOULD #general

S. Harris <jewishgen@...>
 

I am still unsure as to Shirley's maiden name- I thought it was
BANKS, but a kind list member sent me an NYT engagement announcement for
the couple's son, David referring to David's mother as "Shirley BANK
GOULD."

Of course, the NYT obit for David's father referred to Morton and
Shirley's daughter as Amy, only to post a next-day correction (Abby).

A Pro-Quest death notice of Shirley's NYT death notice sent to me
anonymously would seem to settle the matter- but I can't find her name
anywhere among the notices on the page attached. Perhaps the sender
could resend the proper page referencing Shirley's death on July 5, 1992.

Thanks to all who have responded. Apparently, the Gould's were
divorced prior to Shirley's passing.

Stacy Harris
Nashville, TN
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Morton & Shirley (BANK/S) GOULD #general

S. Harris <jewishgen@...>
 

I am still unsure as to Shirley's maiden name- I thought it was
BANKS, but a kind list member sent me an NYT engagement announcement for
the couple's son, David referring to David's mother as "Shirley BANK
GOULD."

Of course, the NYT obit for David's father referred to Morton and
Shirley's daughter as Amy, only to post a next-day correction (Abby).

A Pro-Quest death notice of Shirley's NYT death notice sent to me
anonymously would seem to settle the matter- but I can't find her name
anywhere among the notices on the page attached. Perhaps the sender
could resend the proper page referencing Shirley's death on July 5, 1992.

Thanks to all who have responded. Apparently, the Gould's were
divorced prior to Shirley's passing.

Stacy Harris
Nashville, TN
Not all Romanian Legal Documents used surnames after 1865 #general

PJL427@...
 

There was a statement that all people in Romania were required to use a
surname after 1865. I am not sure that this was true. At least surnames
were not always used on all legal documents after 1865.

Below is an excerpt of a marriage license in 1878 of my Great Grandparents
in Braila, Romania. Fanny WIND of Braila and Leizer Zomer of Focsoni.

Several listed people do not have a last name. Leibu sin Moise aged 42, a
tailor, Moisi Smil, aged 40 a Tailor, and Mendel Burah, aged 38.

The point here is that this was well after 1865 and several people are listed
without surnames on a legal document.

The wedding party had their names already >from Galicia. The guests and
witnesses, all Romanians had no surname listed.

(Also, of note is that the wife's mother was said to be unable to read. I
have a letter written by her in the most beautiful Hebrew script. She was a
school teacher.)

"All A/M took place in public in the townhall in the presence of the
requested four witnesses, namely Mendel Burah, Aged 38, a tailor, a
cousin of future wife, Lupu Israilovici, Aged 53, a peddlar, Leibu
sin Moise, Aged 42, Tailor, and Moisi Smil, Aged 40, a Tailor, all
living in Braila, the first two on behalf of the husband and the last
ones on behalf of the wife, and after I read the paper to the hearing
of the present people, spouses wife's parents and witnesses, have
subscribed together with all of them it is mentioned that wife's mother,
and the witnessing of Mendel, Leib and Moisi couldn't read and they put
their finger"

Philip Leonard
Austin
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Not all Romanian Legal Documents used surnames after 1865 #general

PJL427@...
 

There was a statement that all people in Romania were required to use a
surname after 1865. I am not sure that this was true. At least surnames
were not always used on all legal documents after 1865.

Below is an excerpt of a marriage license in 1878 of my Great Grandparents
in Braila, Romania. Fanny WIND of Braila and Leizer Zomer of Focsoni.

Several listed people do not have a last name. Leibu sin Moise aged 42, a
tailor, Moisi Smil, aged 40 a Tailor, and Mendel Burah, aged 38.

The point here is that this was well after 1865 and several people are listed
without surnames on a legal document.

The wedding party had their names already >from Galicia. The guests and
witnesses, all Romanians had no surname listed.

(Also, of note is that the wife's mother was said to be unable to read. I
have a letter written by her in the most beautiful Hebrew script. She was a
school teacher.)

"All A/M took place in public in the townhall in the presence of the
requested four witnesses, namely Mendel Burah, Aged 38, a tailor, a
cousin of future wife, Lupu Israilovici, Aged 53, a peddlar, Leibu
sin Moise, Aged 42, Tailor, and Moisi Smil, Aged 40, a Tailor, all
living in Braila, the first two on behalf of the husband and the last
ones on behalf of the wife, and after I read the paper to the hearing
of the present people, spouses wife's parents and witnesses, have
subscribed together with all of them it is mentioned that wife's mother,
and the witnessing of Mendel, Leib and Moisi couldn't read and they put
their finger"

Philip Leonard
Austin
Re: Did Jews move often during their lifetime? #general

DebWE308@...
 

Dear Genners,
I am confused. I assumed that our ancestors lived primarily in the same
shtetles for generations except for exiles after progroms. But as I have been
searching, I am discovering that all my ancestors-those in the Russian Empire and
those in Galicia moved around during their lifetimes. So where one child was
born, another may be born somewhere else. And Parents may have lived in one
town, but the grown children live in other towns. How do we know if a person is
connected to us or not?
I am also researching the following towns and if anyone has any information
about them I would be very appreciative!
Tyvrov
Trostjanec
Nikiforivci

Debbie Wang Etzion

SCHECHTER >from Tyvrov NIKIPROVETZKY >from Padolia Gubernia
GELWARG >from Padolia Gubernia WANG >from Galicia
GOLDBERG >from Mosciska area RECHES >from przemysl
WILK >from Dobra near Sanok
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Did Jews move often during their lifetime? #general

DebWE308@...
 

Dear Genners,
I am confused. I assumed that our ancestors lived primarily in the same
shtetles for generations except for exiles after progroms. But as I have been
searching, I am discovering that all my ancestors-those in the Russian Empire and
those in Galicia moved around during their lifetimes. So where one child was
born, another may be born somewhere else. And Parents may have lived in one
town, but the grown children live in other towns. How do we know if a person is
connected to us or not?
I am also researching the following towns and if anyone has any information
about them I would be very appreciative!
Tyvrov
Trostjanec
Nikiforivci

Debbie Wang Etzion

SCHECHTER >from Tyvrov NIKIPROVETZKY >from Padolia Gubernia
GELWARG >from Padolia Gubernia WANG >from Galicia
GOLDBERG >from Mosciska area RECHES >from przemysl
WILK >from Dobra near Sanok
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