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Re: Posting Courtesy on JewishGen #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:14:45 UTC, annrab@bellsouth.net (Ann
Rabinowitz) opined:

When you are responding to a posting on the JewishGen or other digests,
please do not copy everyone who has also responded to this posting. They
can easily read the followup responses on the digest themselves if they are
interested.

It is courteous to copy the original poster to ensure that he/she reads your
response.
Are you saying that one who responds to a query is in some sense
obligated to also send the questioner a copy of his reply? This is
news to me, and I have been using Usenet for well over ten years. It
is totally unnecessary.

The poster of a question participates in the forum either through
Usenet or by email. If the latter, he will certainly receive a copy of
everything the forum distributes, including answers to his question.
If he reads the newsgroup, he certainly will (being interested in
geting an answer) continue to read the newsgroup.

It is not necessary to patronize him by sending him an additional
personal "engraved" copy of each reply. Non-technical people like most
of those in this forum may not realize it, but it is not particularly
good Internet citizenship to send unnecessary messages. It is also not
particularly courteous to send people superfluous duplicate copies of
material they will receive anyway.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Posting Courtesy on JewishGen #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:14:45 UTC, annrab@bellsouth.net (Ann
Rabinowitz) opined:

When you are responding to a posting on the JewishGen or other digests,
please do not copy everyone who has also responded to this posting. They
can easily read the followup responses on the digest themselves if they are
interested.

It is courteous to copy the original poster to ensure that he/she reads your
response.
Are you saying that one who responds to a query is in some sense
obligated to also send the questioner a copy of his reply? This is
news to me, and I have been using Usenet for well over ten years. It
is totally unnecessary.

The poster of a question participates in the forum either through
Usenet or by email. If the latter, he will certainly receive a copy of
everything the forum distributes, including answers to his question.
If he reads the newsgroup, he certainly will (being interested in
geting an answer) continue to read the newsgroup.

It is not necessary to patronize him by sending him an additional
personal "engraved" copy of each reply. Non-technical people like most
of those in this forum may not realize it, but it is not particularly
good Internet citizenship to send unnecessary messages. It is also not
particularly courteous to send people superfluous duplicate copies of
material they will receive anyway.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

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is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Re: Posting courtesy on JewishGen #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

And Stan's point was that it is *not* the courteous thing to do, in part
because the recipient gets two identical copies. Stan is, in fact,
expressing the consensus view that grew up in mailing lists and news groups
as they developed.

The difference here is between people who have a background in newsgroup
Netiquette and those who approach newsgroups as the same as communicating by
paper letter.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

"Sally Goodman" <sbgoody@usa.net> wrote

Ann Rabinowitz wrote:
It is courteous to copy the original poster to ensure that he/she reads your
response.
Stan Goodman wrote:
Are you saying that one who responds to a query is in some sense
obligated to also send the questioner a copy of his reply?....
It is not necessary to patronize him by sending him an additional
personal "engraved" copy of each reply.
Whoa! I was just about to thank Ann for the suggestion when Stan's message
through me for a loop.

Lighten up folks. We are here to help one another not be sarcastic or
criticize. By no means did I read in Ann's message that one who responds to
a query is *obligated* to also send the questioner a copy of the reply. It
seems to me to be a courteous thing to do. Frankly, I never thought to do it
myself, but I have often missed a response and would have appreciated a
copy.

If you don't want to send a copy, don't. If you don't want to read a
message, delete it. But, please let's treat each other with respect.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Posting courtesy on JewishGen #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

And Stan's point was that it is *not* the courteous thing to do, in part
because the recipient gets two identical copies. Stan is, in fact,
expressing the consensus view that grew up in mailing lists and news groups
as they developed.

The difference here is between people who have a background in newsgroup
Netiquette and those who approach newsgroups as the same as communicating by
paper letter.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

"Sally Goodman" <sbgoody@usa.net> wrote

Ann Rabinowitz wrote:
It is courteous to copy the original poster to ensure that he/she reads your
response.
Stan Goodman wrote:
Are you saying that one who responds to a query is in some sense
obligated to also send the questioner a copy of his reply?....
It is not necessary to patronize him by sending him an additional
personal "engraved" copy of each reply.
Whoa! I was just about to thank Ann for the suggestion when Stan's message
through me for a loop.

Lighten up folks. We are here to help one another not be sarcastic or
criticize. By no means did I read in Ann's message that one who responds to
a query is *obligated* to also send the questioner a copy of the reply. It
seems to me to be a courteous thing to do. Frankly, I never thought to do it
myself, but I have often missed a response and would have appreciated a
copy.

If you don't want to send a copy, don't. If you don't want to read a
message, delete it. But, please let's treat each other with respect.


Re: Surname searching online for UK vital records? #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

<alexallen@att.net> wrote
My maternal grandmother left Bessarabia in the early 1900s, following several
aunts, sisters and brothers to London (where they settled), and she eventually
on to New York. I have been unsuccessful in locationg an online index for
searching UK immigration, naturalisation, marriage, birth or death records
by surname online? I read the Beginner's Guide to Jewish Genealogy in Great
Britain pamphlet that I bought at a Jewishgen convention & I've examined the
[familyrecords.gov.uk] site. Both suggest that you can search for surnames
online, but I'm stumped on locating an index (along the lines of JRI-Poland)
of records that are available for any of those categories of vital documents.
Any assistance will appreciated.
Can you give us more detail. Also try posting the JCR-UK Group which is a
JCR-UK is a joint project of JewishGen and the Jewish Genealogical Society
of Great Britain.

To post a message to this list use jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org.

This website of the National Archive gives you lots of information on
Granting of British Nationality.

http://tinyurl.com/brz5t

It is very detailed, but I am sure that if you have any questions you can
email the Archive with your question.

This is the Family Records Centre page on Immigration:

http://www.familyrecords.gov.uk/topics/immigration_3.htm

This tells you how to obtain Birth, Marriage and Death certificates >from the
Family Records Centre.

http://www.familyrecords.gov.uk/topics/bmd_3.htm

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ of the General Register Office can be
used to place orders for certificates dating >from 1900 up to 18 months ago
where the exact details are known.

The email address regarding the Registrations of Births, Marriages and
Deaths in England are respectively:

registering.births@ons.gsi.gov.uk
registering.deaths@ons.gsi.gov.uk

This is the detail of the Index of Births, Marriages and Deaths at the
Family Records Centre. I think that you have to go there in person.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/research/thefamilyrecordscentre/findyourwayindexes.asp

This private individual
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/nigel.battysmith/gettingstarted.html confirms that
the FRC require you to go to the FRC and search the records in person.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


Re: Austria / Hungary timeline question #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Howie Axelrod" <highwind1@comcast.net> wrote

My Great Grandfather and his family listed Hungary as place of Origin
in the 1910 census, but list Austria in the 1920 census. Can anyone
explain?
Which town are you talking about? Austria-Hungary existed until the end of
the First World War. Following that there were separate countries of Austria
and Hungary.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Surname searching online for UK vital records? #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

<alexallen@att.net> wrote
My maternal grandmother left Bessarabia in the early 1900s, following several
aunts, sisters and brothers to London (where they settled), and she eventually
on to New York. I have been unsuccessful in locationg an online index for
searching UK immigration, naturalisation, marriage, birth or death records
by surname online? I read the Beginner's Guide to Jewish Genealogy in Great
Britain pamphlet that I bought at a Jewishgen convention & I've examined the
[familyrecords.gov.uk] site. Both suggest that you can search for surnames
online, but I'm stumped on locating an index (along the lines of JRI-Poland)
of records that are available for any of those categories of vital documents.
Any assistance will appreciated.
Can you give us more detail. Also try posting the JCR-UK Group which is a
JCR-UK is a joint project of JewishGen and the Jewish Genealogical Society
of Great Britain.

To post a message to this list use jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org.

This website of the National Archive gives you lots of information on
Granting of British Nationality.

http://tinyurl.com/brz5t

It is very detailed, but I am sure that if you have any questions you can
email the Archive with your question.

This is the Family Records Centre page on Immigration:

http://www.familyrecords.gov.uk/topics/immigration_3.htm

This tells you how to obtain Birth, Marriage and Death certificates >from the
Family Records Centre.

http://www.familyrecords.gov.uk/topics/bmd_3.htm

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ of the General Register Office can be
used to place orders for certificates dating >from 1900 up to 18 months ago
where the exact details are known.

The email address regarding the Registrations of Births, Marriages and
Deaths in England are respectively:

registering.births@ons.gsi.gov.uk
registering.deaths@ons.gsi.gov.uk

This is the detail of the Index of Births, Marriages and Deaths at the
Family Records Centre. I think that you have to go there in person.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/research/thefamilyrecordscentre/findyourwayindexes.asp

This private individual
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/nigel.battysmith/gettingstarted.html confirms that
the FRC require you to go to the FRC and search the records in person.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Austria / Hungary timeline question #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Howie Axelrod" <highwind1@comcast.net> wrote

My Great Grandfather and his family listed Hungary as place of Origin
in the 1910 census, but list Austria in the 1920 census. Can anyone
explain?
Which town are you talking about? Austria-Hungary existed until the end of
the First World War. Following that there were separate countries of Austria
and Hungary.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK


Question about my family KLAUSNER. #general

Edmond Klausner <klausner@...>
 

Hi
I would like to have information about my family, the most prominent
individual being Joseph KLAUSNER.
Thank you/
Ed Klausner (Chaim Shabtai Klausner)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Question about my family KLAUSNER. #general

Edmond Klausner <klausner@...>
 

Hi
I would like to have information about my family, the most prominent
individual being Joseph KLAUSNER.
Thank you/
Ed Klausner (Chaim Shabtai Klausner)


Re: Posting courtesy on JewishGen #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:07:20 UTC, sbgoody@usa.net (Sally Goodman)
opined:

Ann Rabinowitz wrote:
It is courteous to copy the original poster to ensure that he/she reads your
response.
Stan Goodman wrote:
Are you saying that one who responds to a query is in some sense
obligated to also send the questioner a copy of his reply?....
It is not necessary to patronize him by sending him an additional
personal "engraved" copy of each reply.
Whoa! I was just about to thank Ann for the suggestion when Stan's message
through me for a loop.

Lighten up folks. We are here to help one another not be sarcastic or
criticize. By no means did I read in Ann's message that one who responds to
a query is *obligated* to also send the questioner a copy of the reply. It
seems to me to be a courteous thing to do. Frankly, I never thought to do it
myself, but I have often missed a response and would have appreciated a
copy.

If you don't want to send a copy, don't. If you don't want to read a
message, delete it. But, please let's treat each other with respect.
If it were as optional as all that, one doubts that the writer of the
recommendation would have bothered to write it. Once such a thing
becomes accepted as a norm, anyone who doesn't act accordingly is seen
as a boor. So it is indeed compulsory in the end.

This is not a tea party, but a place of hopefully purposeful activity.
An excess of artificial courtesy will contribute to nothing except
clutter, and the same is true of letters duplicating what has already
been posted. What is the purpose of a letter, when the answer to the
query has already appeared where the questioner expects to find it?

By all means, send a copy, so that the recipient has two copies
(including the one that he reads on the forum itself). And when you
receive such duplication, be courteous enough to send a thank you
note; and why not post your thanks on the forum as well, so that
everyone can see that you were grateful. And be certain that the one
to whom you have expressed your gratitude, himself a courtly
man/woman, will write to tell you that you are welcome. One must have
a *lot* of spare time on one's hands to be able to need to fill it with
such make-work.

Remember too the recent discussion of the necessity of sending a
message of gratitude to those who have answered you query -- which
must draw an acknowledgement so that one is not thought ungrateful for
the gratitude. Here again, exaggerated rules of protocol requiring
thanks, and then acknowledgement of the thanks, are clutter.

I do my best to help people here within the limits of the time at my
disposal. My presence here is nearly entirely one sided, as I have
asked questions only twice in all these years since before JewishGen
took over the newsgroup. So I am not trying to avoid sending
superfluous messages myself. If I have succeeded in helping anyone, I
do not expect or want explicit recognition for doing so; my
satisfaction is in the attempt to help, and my disappointment is in
sometimes failing to do so, through error. I have no idea if there are
those who are driven for a need for gratitude; I hope there are none.
I don't know why it even occurs to anyone to send duplicate
expressions of thanks; I think even one is unnecessary, as the whole
function of the forum is to help each other .

I much regret that my explanation of why this is *not* a good idea was
not understood.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Posting courtesy on JewishGen #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:07:20 UTC, sbgoody@usa.net (Sally Goodman)
opined:

Ann Rabinowitz wrote:
It is courteous to copy the original poster to ensure that he/she reads your
response.
Stan Goodman wrote:
Are you saying that one who responds to a query is in some sense
obligated to also send the questioner a copy of his reply?....
It is not necessary to patronize him by sending him an additional
personal "engraved" copy of each reply.
Whoa! I was just about to thank Ann for the suggestion when Stan's message
through me for a loop.

Lighten up folks. We are here to help one another not be sarcastic or
criticize. By no means did I read in Ann's message that one who responds to
a query is *obligated* to also send the questioner a copy of the reply. It
seems to me to be a courteous thing to do. Frankly, I never thought to do it
myself, but I have often missed a response and would have appreciated a
copy.

If you don't want to send a copy, don't. If you don't want to read a
message, delete it. But, please let's treat each other with respect.
If it were as optional as all that, one doubts that the writer of the
recommendation would have bothered to write it. Once such a thing
becomes accepted as a norm, anyone who doesn't act accordingly is seen
as a boor. So it is indeed compulsory in the end.

This is not a tea party, but a place of hopefully purposeful activity.
An excess of artificial courtesy will contribute to nothing except
clutter, and the same is true of letters duplicating what has already
been posted. What is the purpose of a letter, when the answer to the
query has already appeared where the questioner expects to find it?

By all means, send a copy, so that the recipient has two copies
(including the one that he reads on the forum itself). And when you
receive such duplication, be courteous enough to send a thank you
note; and why not post your thanks on the forum as well, so that
everyone can see that you were grateful. And be certain that the one
to whom you have expressed your gratitude, himself a courtly
man/woman, will write to tell you that you are welcome. One must have
a *lot* of spare time on one's hands to be able to need to fill it with
such make-work.

Remember too the recent discussion of the necessity of sending a
message of gratitude to those who have answered you query -- which
must draw an acknowledgement so that one is not thought ungrateful for
the gratitude. Here again, exaggerated rules of protocol requiring
thanks, and then acknowledgement of the thanks, are clutter.

I do my best to help people here within the limits of the time at my
disposal. My presence here is nearly entirely one sided, as I have
asked questions only twice in all these years since before JewishGen
took over the newsgroup. So I am not trying to avoid sending
superfluous messages myself. If I have succeeded in helping anyone, I
do not expect or want explicit recognition for doing so; my
satisfaction is in the attempt to help, and my disappointment is in
sometimes failing to do so, through error. I have no idea if there are
those who are driven for a need for gratitude; I hope there are none.
I don't know why it even occurs to anyone to send duplicate
expressions of thanks; I think even one is unnecessary, as the whole
function of the forum is to help each other .

I much regret that my explanation of why this is *not* a good idea was
not understood.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


KOCH from Tarnopol; KREISLER from Trembovla #galicia

Joanne Lebovits-Brodkin <jolebro@...>
 

Does anyone know anything about Tarnopol? Names of people, stories,
etc.? My mother's family (father, etc.), KOCH, lived there. At the age of 8 my
mother lost her entire family. The other part of the family is >from Trembovla.
The family >from Trembovla is KREISLER (my mother's mother). Did anyone know
these families?

Joanne Brodkin
Toronto, Ontario (originally >from Montreal)

Moderator Note: A good subject line for family searches is the SURNAME >from Town,
as above.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia KOCH from Tarnopol; KREISLER from Trembovla #galicia

Joanne Lebovits-Brodkin <jolebro@...>
 

Does anyone know anything about Tarnopol? Names of people, stories,
etc.? My mother's family (father, etc.), KOCH, lived there. At the age of 8 my
mother lost her entire family. The other part of the family is >from Trembovla.
The family >from Trembovla is KREISLER (my mother's mother). Did anyone know
these families?

Joanne Brodkin
Toronto, Ontario (originally >from Montreal)

Moderator Note: A good subject line for family searches is the SURNAME >from Town,
as above.


Re: Belz #galicia

Adelle Gloger
 

Susana Mamber Englender sem005@gmail.com asked about the location of Belz
because she not find it on any map. Doing a simple internet search for "Belz"
on Yahoo.com I found a very informative article on the Wikipedia site that
gives coordinates as well as some history of the town.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belz

Using the expedia.com map search and entering Belz in the "find a map"
area, a topographical map shows the town highlighted.

Hope this will help Susana locate her town.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Cleveland, Ohio
agloger@aol.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Belz #galicia

Adelle Gloger
 

Susana Mamber Englender sem005@gmail.com asked about the location of Belz
because she not find it on any map. Doing a simple internet search for "Belz"
on Yahoo.com I found a very informative article on the Wikipedia site that
gives coordinates as well as some history of the town.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belz

Using the expedia.com map search and entering Belz in the "find a map"
area, a topographical map shows the town highlighted.

Hope this will help Susana locate her town.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Cleveland, Ohio
agloger@aol.com


OBERNIK family from Beroun #austria-czech

katka sor <katsor@...>
 

Back in May I enlisted the help of A-C SIG members as I came to a dead-end
trying to find any trace of my Obernik family, originating >from Beroun.
Celia Male very kindly gave me a number of clues, which I have been
following. One of the leads was to Nicholas Obernik, a jeweller in Dublin,
Ireland. I wrote him a letter, hoping that he may somehow be connected to
the Czech Oberniks. And last night I received a phone call >from Nicholas in
Dublin [!!!] in which we both realised that we are actually closely related.
Nicholas is the son of Gustav Adolf Obernik, who died in London in 1984.
Gustav's father was Emil Obernik - brother of my grandmother Stefanie!
It is moments like this that make one realise how important and wonderful it
is when people help each other.

I sincerely thank Celia Male and others, who helped me in the search
for my ancestors.

Katrina Sorauer
Sydney/Australia
Researching OBERNIK, KRAUS


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech OBERNIK family from Beroun #austria-czech

katka sor <katsor@...>
 

Back in May I enlisted the help of A-C SIG members as I came to a dead-end
trying to find any trace of my Obernik family, originating >from Beroun.
Celia Male very kindly gave me a number of clues, which I have been
following. One of the leads was to Nicholas Obernik, a jeweller in Dublin,
Ireland. I wrote him a letter, hoping that he may somehow be connected to
the Czech Oberniks. And last night I received a phone call >from Nicholas in
Dublin [!!!] in which we both realised that we are actually closely related.
Nicholas is the son of Gustav Adolf Obernik, who died in London in 1984.
Gustav's father was Emil Obernik - brother of my grandmother Stefanie!
It is moments like this that make one realise how important and wonderful it
is when people help each other.

I sincerely thank Celia Male and others, who helped me in the search
for my ancestors.

Katrina Sorauer
Sydney/Australia
Researching OBERNIK, KRAUS


Re: Maps of Imperial Russia #belarus

Micha Reisel
 

At 08:00 27-08-05, the moderator wrote:
MODERATOR NOTE: The site is in Russian (Cyrillic)with no
English translation or transliteration.

For a transliteration go to
http://babelfish.altavista.com/
enter the address there
http://www.genealogia.ru/projects/maps/maps/alf.html
and set the language pairs to Russian-English

it works more or less---
micha
____________________
Micha Reisel, Hod Hasharon, Israel


Belarus SIG #Belarus RE: Maps of Imperial Russia #belarus

Micha Reisel
 

At 08:00 27-08-05, the moderator wrote:
MODERATOR NOTE: The site is in Russian (Cyrillic)with no
English translation or transliteration.

For a transliteration go to
http://babelfish.altavista.com/
enter the address there
http://www.genealogia.ru/projects/maps/maps/alf.html
and set the language pairs to Russian-English

it works more or less---
micha
____________________
Micha Reisel, Hod Hasharon, Israel