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Re: Camps in Lebanon and Syria for European Jews in 1939-40. #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Pierre Kogan of Strasbourg asked: "I'm searching for
the fate of a European family, (>from Romania or
Austria
and Turkey): EFFRAYIM Aaron, his wife BAUM Rosa and
their daughters Becky, Rebecca born 1923 and Dora born
1924? The daughters married and lived in Beyrouth or
Aleppo. Were there internment's camps in Lebanon and
Syria for European Jews in 1939-40?"

I was interested to read Pierre Kogan's enquiry re
internment camps in Lebanon and Syria in WW2 and would
like to comment on Nick Landau's reply.

Lebanon and Syria could certainly not be described as
French colonies - they were mandated territories - and
the British could certainly not let the Vichy
Goverment rule in that area in WW2, so the British
took control in 1941. Search for 1941:
http://tinyurl.com/8k4rj

Many countries in the Middle East had large Jewish
populations and Pierre's EFFRAYIM family of Beirut and
Aleppo sounds fairly typical of the families you could
find dotted all over this area, including Egypt.

You may be surprised to hear that at a certain period,
at the turn of the twentieth century, one of the
largest foreign communities in Egypt was deemed to be
*Austrian*. This in fact encompassed Jews >from many
areas of the Eastern fringes of the Habsburg Empire
who often married into local, longer established local
Sephardic families.

I suspect that the EFFRAYIM family was living and
trading happily in Lebanon and Syria and departed some
time after the commencement of hostilities with
Israel. They would not have been in danger in WW2,
except if Rommel had broken through at "el Alamein".

We all owe *Monty and his 8th Army* a great debt.
I should know, as I was in Alexandria and still
remember the sound of the great artillery barrage -
and I was a very small child in 1942.

Celia Male [U.K.]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Camps in Lebanon and Syria for European Jews in 1939-40. #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Pierre Kogan of Strasbourg asked: "I'm searching for
the fate of a European family, (>from Romania or
Austria
and Turkey): EFFRAYIM Aaron, his wife BAUM Rosa and
their daughters Becky, Rebecca born 1923 and Dora born
1924? The daughters married and lived in Beyrouth or
Aleppo. Were there internment's camps in Lebanon and
Syria for European Jews in 1939-40?"

I was interested to read Pierre Kogan's enquiry re
internment camps in Lebanon and Syria in WW2 and would
like to comment on Nick Landau's reply.

Lebanon and Syria could certainly not be described as
French colonies - they were mandated territories - and
the British could certainly not let the Vichy
Goverment rule in that area in WW2, so the British
took control in 1941. Search for 1941:
http://tinyurl.com/8k4rj

Many countries in the Middle East had large Jewish
populations and Pierre's EFFRAYIM family of Beirut and
Aleppo sounds fairly typical of the families you could
find dotted all over this area, including Egypt.

You may be surprised to hear that at a certain period,
at the turn of the twentieth century, one of the
largest foreign communities in Egypt was deemed to be
*Austrian*. This in fact encompassed Jews >from many
areas of the Eastern fringes of the Habsburg Empire
who often married into local, longer established local
Sephardic families.

I suspect that the EFFRAYIM family was living and
trading happily in Lebanon and Syria and departed some
time after the commencement of hostilities with
Israel. They would not have been in danger in WW2,
except if Rommel had broken through at "el Alamein".

We all owe *Monty and his 8th Army* a great debt.
I should know, as I was in Alexandria and still
remember the sound of the great artillery barrage -
and I was a very small child in 1942.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Digitizing/Preserving home movies #general

Steve Cohen <scohen@...>
 

Dear J'genners,

Recently I inherited a box of silent home movies (8 mm and Super 8),
numbering nearly 30 3" (8 cm) reels, and a smaller number of larger reels.
They date >from 1948-1978, are all Kodachrome(R) with color still bright.
Two have minor vinegar syndrome (acetic-acid smell), which I have
segregated >from the rest. I would like to preserve all of the films and
distribute copies to a number of relatives.

I have projectors, but am afraid to run the films through the projectors;
I also have a hand-cranked editor through which I have viewed several of
the films.

The goals I have are:
1) Digitize or otherwise make archival high-quality copies for
preservation (along with the original reels, of course) at the original
filming speed (16 fps for regular 8 mm; 18 fps for super 8)
2) Make digital disks of some sort (DVD?) for general distribution
3) Edit and put titles and subtitles to denote who is who on the images.
(Perhaps do this with home editing systems on computer?)

Can any of you archivists comment privately on what companies can help?
The standard "video-transfer mills" I am probably not interested in, for
most cannot transfer at the original filming speed, nor are they
interested in archival high-quality preservation.

Thanks,
Dr. Stephen Cohen
Central NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Digitizing/Preserving home movies #general

Steve Cohen <scohen@...>
 

Dear J'genners,

Recently I inherited a box of silent home movies (8 mm and Super 8),
numbering nearly 30 3" (8 cm) reels, and a smaller number of larger reels.
They date >from 1948-1978, are all Kodachrome(R) with color still bright.
Two have minor vinegar syndrome (acetic-acid smell), which I have
segregated >from the rest. I would like to preserve all of the films and
distribute copies to a number of relatives.

I have projectors, but am afraid to run the films through the projectors;
I also have a hand-cranked editor through which I have viewed several of
the films.

The goals I have are:
1) Digitize or otherwise make archival high-quality copies for
preservation (along with the original reels, of course) at the original
filming speed (16 fps for regular 8 mm; 18 fps for super 8)
2) Make digital disks of some sort (DVD?) for general distribution
3) Edit and put titles and subtitles to denote who is who on the images.
(Perhaps do this with home editing systems on computer?)

Can any of you archivists comment privately on what companies can help?
The standard "video-transfer mills" I am probably not interested in, for
most cannot transfer at the original filming speed, nor are they
interested in archival high-quality preservation.

Thanks,
Dr. Stephen Cohen
Central NJ


Ukraine SIG: Database Project 2 #ukraine

Steve Orlen
 

My great-grandfather Benjamin BELKIND haLevi, a tailor, was born 1860 in
Boguslav in Kiev Gubernya, as was his wife Rifka WOLINSKY, & his children:

Roza born 1886
Menachem-Mendl born 1888, a studio photographer
Moische (Misha) born 1892, a studio photographer;
Chaim born circa 1893 a studio photographer
Ephraim born circa 1896 died circa 1902 Kishinev

The family moved to Odessa (Peresyp) circa 1892.

My great-great grandfather, Motis-Mendl WOLINSKY, a wheelwright, was born
circa 1780's in Boguslav in Kiev Gubernya, as were his children:

Gusel who imm to London
Rachel-Leah
Yoynah, a soldier for many years
Ephraim, born circa 1830, a wheelwright
Israel (Srulke) b 1845 imm to London. Owned an art gallery.

Ephraim WOLINSKY (same as above) his wife Rachel moved to Odessa circa 1895
with their children:

Rifke born circa 1863 died in Kishinev circa 1902
Lea born circa 1863 imm to Brooklyn Married Mr. Teplitsky
Sarah born circa 1866 imm to Alexandria, Jaffa, Brooklyn
Moishe born circa 1870 imm to England then to USA
Ite born circa 1877 imm to Melbourne
Leib imm to Alexandria then Palestine
Yankel an engineer on water projects imm to Alexandria then Palestine

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Ukraine SIG: Database Project 2 #ukraine

Steve Orlen
 

My great-grandfather Benjamin BELKIND haLevi, a tailor, was born 1860 in
Boguslav in Kiev Gubernya, as was his wife Rifka WOLINSKY, & his children:

Roza born 1886
Menachem-Mendl born 1888, a studio photographer
Moische (Misha) born 1892, a studio photographer;
Chaim born circa 1893 a studio photographer
Ephraim born circa 1896 died circa 1902 Kishinev

The family moved to Odessa (Peresyp) circa 1892.

My great-great grandfather, Motis-Mendl WOLINSKY, a wheelwright, was born
circa 1780's in Boguslav in Kiev Gubernya, as were his children:

Gusel who imm to London
Rachel-Leah
Yoynah, a soldier for many years
Ephraim, born circa 1830, a wheelwright
Israel (Srulke) b 1845 imm to London. Owned an art gallery.

Ephraim WOLINSKY (same as above) his wife Rachel moved to Odessa circa 1895
with their children:

Rifke born circa 1863 died in Kishinev circa 1902
Lea born circa 1863 imm to Brooklyn Married Mr. Teplitsky
Sarah born circa 1866 imm to Alexandria, Jaffa, Brooklyn
Moishe born circa 1870 imm to England then to USA
Ite born circa 1877 imm to Melbourne
Leib imm to Alexandria then Palestine
Yankel an engineer on water projects imm to Alexandria then Palestine

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ


One day seminar at the Museum of the Diaspora in Tel Aviv #southafrica

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

We at the Israel Genealogical Society [IGS] are fairly bursting our
buttons with pride in the one day seminar [Yom Iyun] that we have
arranged for the 28th of November 2005 at Beit Hatefutzot [the
Diaspora Museum] on the Tel Aviv University campus. If you could have
one genealogical wish, wouldn't it be that you could find that
illusive document that would allow you to prove once and for all that
a tie that binds was true? We at the IGS have been feverishly working
for over a year to arrange just such a seminar that would allow you
to find the missing key.

Without fear of contradiction, I can categorically state that every
Jewish family in the world has family - known or unknown - in
Israel. Our seminar, "Family Roots in the Land of Israel and in the
World," will demonstrate what I mean. We have invited archivists >from
the smaller, but sometimes more interesting archives, to address us
with talks on their holdings. When we invited proposals, even we
didn't know details of all the treasures these archives hold, but
after reading the abstracts and talking with the archivists, it is
hard not to jump up and down with enthusiasm!

Go to our website's direct seminar access:

http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2005/

There you can get .pdf files in Hebrew and/or in English of the
program, the abstracts and the biographies of the speakers. See for
yourself what an incredible program we have arranged for you! >from
our opening keynote speaker on Eastern European Aliyah >from the late
1800's to 1920, to a detailed description of the microfilm collection
of the Diaspora Museum, at the close of the day, you will be
enthralled for the entire time.

One caveat: regretfully, places are limited due to the number of
seats available and we can only accept reservations on a first come
first serve basis. Early registration ends on 10 November, if there
are still places available. Registration includes coffee and cake and
a chance for a greatly discounted hot lunch, but here too, places are
limited. Please register early so you will not be disappointed. When
the places are gone, they are gone and that's it.

The registration form can be downloaded at

http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2005/YY-reg-HE-2005.pdf

You are going to love this day and we are looking forward to seeing
you there!

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion
for the Organizing Committee
Israel Genealogical Society


Re: Kasrael JOFFE; Pretoria, SA; died 1981 #southafrica

Dr. Clive H. Gold <clive@...>
 

Hi Tim,
I knew Kasreel Joffe in the city of my birth, Pretoria.
He was a butcher in the old market in Pretoria. He had two, possibly three
children. His son Meyer studied law and became very successful. I believe he
became a judge and possibly still lives in Pretoria. He had a sister but I
cannot recall her name.
Unfortunately I cannot answer your question as to his origin, but you could
try the SA white pages and call or write.
I also believe that the brother of my paternal grandfather, Myer Gold
married Ray Sternberg b. Joffe who originated in Rokiskis.
Regards,
Clive Gold
Zefat, Israel
Researching: Abromowitz, Abrams >from Rokiskis (Raduta)


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica One day seminar at the Museum of the Diaspora in Tel Aviv #southafrica

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

We at the Israel Genealogical Society [IGS] are fairly bursting our
buttons with pride in the one day seminar [Yom Iyun] that we have
arranged for the 28th of November 2005 at Beit Hatefutzot [the
Diaspora Museum] on the Tel Aviv University campus. If you could have
one genealogical wish, wouldn't it be that you could find that
illusive document that would allow you to prove once and for all that
a tie that binds was true? We at the IGS have been feverishly working
for over a year to arrange just such a seminar that would allow you
to find the missing key.

Without fear of contradiction, I can categorically state that every
Jewish family in the world has family - known or unknown - in
Israel. Our seminar, "Family Roots in the Land of Israel and in the
World," will demonstrate what I mean. We have invited archivists >from
the smaller, but sometimes more interesting archives, to address us
with talks on their holdings. When we invited proposals, even we
didn't know details of all the treasures these archives hold, but
after reading the abstracts and talking with the archivists, it is
hard not to jump up and down with enthusiasm!

Go to our website's direct seminar access:

http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2005/

There you can get .pdf files in Hebrew and/or in English of the
program, the abstracts and the biographies of the speakers. See for
yourself what an incredible program we have arranged for you! >from
our opening keynote speaker on Eastern European Aliyah >from the late
1800's to 1920, to a detailed description of the microfilm collection
of the Diaspora Museum, at the close of the day, you will be
enthralled for the entire time.

One caveat: regretfully, places are limited due to the number of
seats available and we can only accept reservations on a first come
first serve basis. Early registration ends on 10 November, if there
are still places available. Registration includes coffee and cake and
a chance for a greatly discounted hot lunch, but here too, places are
limited. Please register early so you will not be disappointed. When
the places are gone, they are gone and that's it.

The registration form can be downloaded at

http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2005/YY-reg-HE-2005.pdf

You are going to love this day and we are looking forward to seeing
you there!

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion
for the Organizing Committee
Israel Genealogical Society


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Kasrael JOFFE; Pretoria, SA; died 1981 #southafrica

Dr. Clive H. Gold <clive@...>
 

Hi Tim,
I knew Kasreel Joffe in the city of my birth, Pretoria.
He was a butcher in the old market in Pretoria. He had two, possibly three
children. His son Meyer studied law and became very successful. I believe he
became a judge and possibly still lives in Pretoria. He had a sister but I
cannot recall her name.
Unfortunately I cannot answer your question as to his origin, but you could
try the SA white pages and call or write.
I also believe that the brother of my paternal grandfather, Myer Gold
married Ray Sternberg b. Joffe who originated in Rokiskis.
Regards,
Clive Gold
Zefat, Israel
Researching: Abromowitz, Abrams >from Rokiskis (Raduta)


Re: PRWR #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

Dear Barbara,
Thanks much for the follow-up. There has been quite a lot of discussion
on this topic, but it sems that we are still in the dark. Please let me
know if you do get a definitive (or even a "reasonable") answer >from the
census folks. I seem to be the most recent person who has been looking for
an answer, and I appreciate all the work that has been put into the query
by so many of the genners.
I looked up on the Google archive to see what my previous responses to this
were, but it only sees to give results post-Rita.

I have therefore found this response of 2001 >from someone at Great Falls
Genealogical Society
http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/2001-December/003283.html.

The full text of his comment can be seen in the webpage but he comments that
it has no valuable meaning for genealogist. He considers that it was an
early attempt to machine sort some of the listings.

I have just come across this posting
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/genealogychatfriends/message/2540?viscount=100
which suggests that PRWR stands for Prussia West Region (obtained >from the
Prussia mail list).

For West Prussia see http://www.polishroots.org/genpoland/westpr.htm

http://dubbie.tripod.com/samsville/1910a.html has the comment that author
checked at FHC was Prussia.

This quest goes back to at least 1998.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)

MODERATOR NOTE: The last website given,
http://dubbie.tripod.com/samsville/1910a.html ,
could be opened by some moderators but not all.
We suspect pop-up blocking software had an effect.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: PRWR #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

Dear Barbara,
Thanks much for the follow-up. There has been quite a lot of discussion
on this topic, but it sems that we are still in the dark. Please let me
know if you do get a definitive (or even a "reasonable") answer >from the
census folks. I seem to be the most recent person who has been looking for
an answer, and I appreciate all the work that has been put into the query
by so many of the genners.
I looked up on the Google archive to see what my previous responses to this
were, but it only sees to give results post-Rita.

I have therefore found this response of 2001 >from someone at Great Falls
Genealogical Society
http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/2001-December/003283.html.

The full text of his comment can be seen in the webpage but he comments that
it has no valuable meaning for genealogist. He considers that it was an
early attempt to machine sort some of the listings.

I have just come across this posting
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/genealogychatfriends/message/2540?viscount=100
which suggests that PRWR stands for Prussia West Region (obtained >from the
Prussia mail list).

For West Prussia see http://www.polishroots.org/genpoland/westpr.htm

http://dubbie.tripod.com/samsville/1910a.html has the comment that author
checked at FHC was Prussia.

This quest goes back to at least 1998.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)

MODERATOR NOTE: The last website given,
http://dubbie.tripod.com/samsville/1910a.html ,
could be opened by some moderators but not all.
We suspect pop-up blocking software had an effect.


Re: Kotzker Rebbe #rabbinic

Pnina Meislish <pniname@...>
 

On 2005.09.21, Jerome Segal <JSegal@umd.edu> wrote:

Is there anyone out there who can lay out the family tree of the
Kotzker Rebbe (Menachem Mendel MORGENSTERN of Kotzk) showing all of
his grandchildren?
About the genealogy of the Kotzker - MORGENSTERN you can find in the
books of Yzchak Alfasi, and in Sne Bo er beKosk by Meir Orian; maybe
also in the books of Harav Bromberg. All these books are in Hebrew.

If you want I will try to find more in the internet, after Rosh
Hashana.

Dr. Pnina Meislish
Jerusalem


New Book by Sandor Bacskai #rabbinic

Andres Carciente
 

I have found here in Budapest a great new book:

It is 230 pages of testimonies >from 64 former members of the Jewish
Orthodox Communities in Hungary. Most of them live now outside
Hungary (the States, Israel, etc...)

It covers the period before, during and after the war. Among the
testimonies which touched me most was one about the refugees coming
from Poland, specially great rabbis, who lost all their families:
For example the Szobranci Rabbi and the Bobovi Rabbi who begged,
urged people in 1943 to "hide, to make bunkers because there is
danger, do not believe that the Hungarian authorities will help
you when the Germans come."

"The Voloci Rabbi talked for at least two hours, cried, begged:
"escape >from here, escape >from Europe anywhere, but escape! But
there was no place where to go. Never I will forget, there
everybody cried with him, then went home..."

The book is in Hungarian: Its title is:

Az elso nap (The First Day)
Publisher: Mult es Jovo
Date: 2004
The writer: Sandor Bacskai, who contributes also to
JewishGen.

Happy New Year. Shana TOVA!!!

Andres Carciente
Budapest

RAPAPORT, STARK, ROTTMAN, BREUER, DICK, SCHWARCZ, NEULANDER, ALTER,
GOLDBERGER, FELDMAR, POLLAK, JEREMIAS, ADLER, LIPSCHITZ, WEISZ,
GRUNWALD, SPITZ, HERSKOVITS, BRUNNER, SZIMKOWICZ,
WEINSTOCK:(Satoraljaujhely) RAPAPORT, FOHN (Monostorpalyi)


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Kotzker Rebbe #rabbinic

Pnina Meislish <pniname@...>
 

On 2005.09.21, Jerome Segal <JSegal@umd.edu> wrote:

Is there anyone out there who can lay out the family tree of the
Kotzker Rebbe (Menachem Mendel MORGENSTERN of Kotzk) showing all of
his grandchildren?
About the genealogy of the Kotzker - MORGENSTERN you can find in the
books of Yzchak Alfasi, and in Sne Bo er beKosk by Meir Orian; maybe
also in the books of Harav Bromberg. All these books are in Hebrew.

If you want I will try to find more in the internet, after Rosh
Hashana.

Dr. Pnina Meislish
Jerusalem


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic New Book by Sandor Bacskai #rabbinic

Andres Carciente
 

I have found here in Budapest a great new book:

It is 230 pages of testimonies >from 64 former members of the Jewish
Orthodox Communities in Hungary. Most of them live now outside
Hungary (the States, Israel, etc...)

It covers the period before, during and after the war. Among the
testimonies which touched me most was one about the refugees coming
from Poland, specially great rabbis, who lost all their families:
For example the Szobranci Rabbi and the Bobovi Rabbi who begged,
urged people in 1943 to "hide, to make bunkers because there is
danger, do not believe that the Hungarian authorities will help
you when the Germans come."

"The Voloci Rabbi talked for at least two hours, cried, begged:
"escape >from here, escape >from Europe anywhere, but escape! But
there was no place where to go. Never I will forget, there
everybody cried with him, then went home..."

The book is in Hungarian: Its title is:

Az elso nap (The First Day)
Publisher: Mult es Jovo
Date: 2004
The writer: Sandor Bacskai, who contributes also to
JewishGen.

Happy New Year. Shana TOVA!!!

Andres Carciente
Budapest

RAPAPORT, STARK, ROTTMAN, BREUER, DICK, SCHWARCZ, NEULANDER, ALTER,
GOLDBERGER, FELDMAR, POLLAK, JEREMIAS, ADLER, LIPSCHITZ, WEISZ,
GRUNWALD, SPITZ, HERSKOVITS, BRUNNER, SZIMKOWICZ,
WEINSTOCK:(Satoraljaujhely) RAPAPORT, FOHN (Monostorpalyi)


Re: Happy New Year #bessarabia

Pnina Meislish <pniname@...>
 

To All the Galizianers,
My best regards >from Jerusalem -
Leshena Tova Tikatevu Vetechatemu, Le`altar le`Chaiim Tovim.
Pnina Meislish


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: Happy New Year #galicia

Pnina Meislish <pniname@...>
 

To All the Galizianers,
My best regards >from Jerusalem -
Leshena Tova Tikatevu Vetechatemu, Le`altar le`Chaiim Tovim.
Pnina Meislish


Re: moving long distances #galicia

HJB <hjb@...>
 

Judy Salomon responded to Joe:

<Often is was when a man left to marry a woman in the new
destination, but
sometimes a family would relocate to places where they felt
there would be
better economic opportunities or for family considerations.>

In my day the woman moved to where the man had a job. I had
always thought it
strange that my grandfather moved to the town where his
bride-to-be lived.
Maybe it made more sense in those days to have the woman live
near family.
Is this a common occurrence?
I think even today you'll see examples of the man moving to where
the woman lives. Some girls still choose to be near their
parents and some parents are willing to arrange for a job or
assist in other ways to ensure that this happens.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurów, Galicia (now Zhuriv,
Ukraine), NYC;
STARK - Bóbrka, Galicia (Ukraine), NYC; BELY -Rzeszów, Poland
MONDSCHEIN-Brod SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY-Belchatów/Lodz, Pol., NYC
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Re:moving long distances #galicia

HJB <hjb@...>
 

Judy Salomon responded to Joe:

<Often is was when a man left to marry a woman in the new
destination, but
sometimes a family would relocate to places where they felt
there would be
better economic opportunities or for family considerations.>

In my day the woman moved to where the man had a job. I had
always thought it
strange that my grandfather moved to the town where his
bride-to-be lived.
Maybe it made more sense in those days to have the woman live
near family.
Is this a common occurrence?
I think even today you'll see examples of the man moving to where
the woman lives. Some girls still choose to be near their
parents and some parents are willing to arrange for a job or
assist in other ways to ensure that this happens.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurów, Galicia (now Zhuriv,
Ukraine), NYC;
STARK - Bóbrka, Galicia (Ukraine), NYC; BELY -Rzeszów, Poland
MONDSCHEIN-Brod SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY-Belchatów/Lodz, Pol., NYC
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC