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Records/Archives for Essex #unitedkingdom

Lorna Kay <lorna.kay@...>
 

Message >from Essex Records Office:

Following the closure of our Colchester branch at the end
of March, we will begin the process of transferring
documents currently held at Colchester to Chelmsford.

Unfortunately, it is not possible to move such a large quantity
of material into our strongrooms and still maintain our usual
level of public service. In order to minimise the disruption
to the overall service we will therefore close the Wharf
Road Record Office Searchroom for the week of Tuesday
10th to Saturday 14th April. We apologise sincerely for any
inconvenience this may cause you.

We will be open for the rest of April (excluding Good Friday
and Easter Monday), and expect to be able to provide a full
service. However, if you plan to visit us during that month
you are advised to check beforehand, in case there are
difficulties with the items that you wish to see.

Once re-opened we shall be on our way to providing a
better service overall - by making all records about Essex,
including Colchester and Tendring, available in one place.


Thank you.
Jennifer Butler
Principal Archivist

Essex Record Office
Wharf Road
Chelmsford
Essex
CM2 6YT

01245 244604


Re: jcr-uk digest: March 20, 2007 #unitedkingdom

Adele Lester <alester@...>
 

"JCR-UK SIG" <jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org> writes:
The A-Z of Regency London shows both Marmaduke Court and Marmaduke Street
in
approx the area you mention. The A-Z of Victorian London has neither. If
no one comes up with Place you may like me to scan these.
Dear Hazel: The responses have shown me maps that I've not really been
able to read! If it's
not too much trouble to scan in the above, I'd really appreciate.
Many thanks!
Adele


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Records/Archives for Essex #unitedkingdom

Lorna Kay <lorna.kay@...>
 

Message >from Essex Records Office:

Following the closure of our Colchester branch at the end
of March, we will begin the process of transferring
documents currently held at Colchester to Chelmsford.

Unfortunately, it is not possible to move such a large quantity
of material into our strongrooms and still maintain our usual
level of public service. In order to minimise the disruption
to the overall service we will therefore close the Wharf
Road Record Office Searchroom for the week of Tuesday
10th to Saturday 14th April. We apologise sincerely for any
inconvenience this may cause you.

We will be open for the rest of April (excluding Good Friday
and Easter Monday), and expect to be able to provide a full
service. However, if you plan to visit us during that month
you are advised to check beforehand, in case there are
difficulties with the items that you wish to see.

Once re-opened we shall be on our way to providing a
better service overall - by making all records about Essex,
including Colchester and Tendring, available in one place.


Thank you.
Jennifer Butler
Principal Archivist

Essex Record Office
Wharf Road
Chelmsford
Essex
CM2 6YT

01245 244604


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: jcr-uk digest: March 20, 2007 #unitedkingdom

Adele Lester <alester@...>
 

"JCR-UK SIG" <jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org> writes:
The A-Z of Regency London shows both Marmaduke Court and Marmaduke Street
in
approx the area you mention. The A-Z of Victorian London has neither. If
no one comes up with Place you may like me to scan these.
Dear Hazel: The responses have shown me maps that I've not really been
able to read! If it's
not too much trouble to scan in the above, I'd really appreciate.
Many thanks!
Adele


Re: Alexandre ARON #france

r r <rrover27@...>
 

Id lie to thank all the mebers who to their time to share their
information with me.
I should make note, that many members pointed out that Rabbi ARON was
from FEGERSHEIM.
The one essentinal point of my research is to assertain the correct
given name for the daughter of rabbi ARON. Her french name was
charlotte. I was hoping to be able to tell >from the grave what her
hebrew name would be but i couldent read it. Was anybody able to make
it out?
What would the common hebrew name for "charlotte" be?

Thank you

Robert Rover
New York, USA


Seeking information about nobleman ?SKINETSKI? from Rzeszow area #galicia

Beth Sommer <bethfsommer@...>
 

I have been told that my MGGM, Frymet FELD GREHER, who lived in
the Rzeszow area, worked as a purchasing agent for a nobleman. I
have been trying to find out his exact name and about his family.
His name was pronounced something like Yadviga Skinetski or
Skenitski. His father was a general. I would like to know how his
name is spelled and would appreciate any other information any of
you can offer.

I would appreciate your help. You may respond privately.

Thank you.

Beth Fagin Sommer
Philadelphia, PA

Researching FEIGIN/FAGIN(Voronezh>NY), STAROSELSKY(Voronezh>NY),
LEIBNER(Nowy Zmigrod>NY), GREHER/GREIER/FELD(Rzeszow/Tyczyn>NY,NJ)


French SIG #France Re: Alexandre ARON #france

r r <rrover27@...>
 

Id lie to thank all the mebers who to their time to share their
information with me.
I should make note, that many members pointed out that Rabbi ARON was
from FEGERSHEIM.
The one essentinal point of my research is to assertain the correct
given name for the daughter of rabbi ARON. Her french name was
charlotte. I was hoping to be able to tell >from the grave what her
hebrew name would be but i couldent read it. Was anybody able to make
it out?
What would the common hebrew name for "charlotte" be?

Thank you

Robert Rover
New York, USA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Seeking information about nobleman ?SKINETSKI? from Rzeszow area #galicia

Beth Sommer <bethfsommer@...>
 

I have been told that my MGGM, Frymet FELD GREHER, who lived in
the Rzeszow area, worked as a purchasing agent for a nobleman. I
have been trying to find out his exact name and about his family.
His name was pronounced something like Yadviga Skinetski or
Skenitski. His father was a general. I would like to know how his
name is spelled and would appreciate any other information any of
you can offer.

I would appreciate your help. You may respond privately.

Thank you.

Beth Fagin Sommer
Philadelphia, PA

Researching FEIGIN/FAGIN(Voronezh>NY), STAROSELSKY(Voronezh>NY),
LEIBNER(Nowy Zmigrod>NY), GREHER/GREIER/FELD(Rzeszow/Tyczyn>NY,NJ)


Re: ROSENSTRAUCH - PLATTER - LANDER - BORNSTEIN - MANUEL - Anarchists/Bundists/Socialists #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

The name ROSENSTRAUCH is very rare in France, and there are currently
only four of them in the directory : Alfred, Dominique, Marie-Helene
and Sylvette. Then, they are certainly related to your family. As
usual, I'm sending you their addresses privately.

Concerning the LANDER families, it's more difficult... There are
about 30 of them, and probably not all of them are related. Anyway,
I'll copy their addresses for you. There are also four PLATTER, but
are they related to your family ?...

I suggest you ask your question (after having shortened it as much as
possible) on the site of the Cercle de Genealogie Juive
http://www.genealoj.org (click on the English verson), in the part
"Questions/Answers).

Regards.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
http://www.convoi73.org
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


Re: Origins of Galician Jews #galicia

d_richter@...
 

In general, the Jews of Galicia, and all of pre-partition (1772)
Poland, were given some refuge in the kingdom of Poland over the
course of the late middle ages 1300-1600. Throughout this time
period, Jews in France and Germany suffered various local
persecutions and pogroms. An excellent book is "The History of the
Jews in Russia and Poland" by Simon Dubnov for much about this. I
have yet to see much material on the migration of the Ashkenazi
into Germany and France before 1300. I think it's safe to assume
they were residents of the Western Roman Empire in Italy and France
and the Rhineland (and even England, which expelled all Jews in the
mid 1200's) - but it's not clear if most would have moved north
from Italy during the dark ages (600-1100) or if most were already
in what is today France and the Rhineland.

It's a fascinating story, and one part I find puzzling is the origin
and staying power of Yiddish in that time.

Dave Richter
Bloomfield Michigan

RICHTER/BRENNER/WEISS Stanisalwow (ivano-Frankivsk)

Jordan Zakarin <jdzakarin@gmail.com> wrote...

... I read that the Jews of Galicia
originally came to Galicia in the middle ages >from Germany. Does
anyone know anything about this? And, does anyone know if they
went to Germany >from somewhere else even earlier?


French SIG #France Re: ROSENSTRAUCH - PLATTER - LANDER - BORNSTEIN - MANUEL - Anarchists/Bundists/Socialists #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

The name ROSENSTRAUCH is very rare in France, and there are currently
only four of them in the directory : Alfred, Dominique, Marie-Helene
and Sylvette. Then, they are certainly related to your family. As
usual, I'm sending you their addresses privately.

Concerning the LANDER families, it's more difficult... There are
about 30 of them, and probably not all of them are related. Anyway,
I'll copy their addresses for you. There are also four PLATTER, but
are they related to your family ?...

I suggest you ask your question (after having shortened it as much as
possible) on the site of the Cercle de Genealogie Juive
http://www.genealoj.org (click on the English verson), in the part
"Questions/Answers).

Regards.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
http://www.convoi73.org
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Origins of Galician Jews #galicia

d_richter@...
 

In general, the Jews of Galicia, and all of pre-partition (1772)
Poland, were given some refuge in the kingdom of Poland over the
course of the late middle ages 1300-1600. Throughout this time
period, Jews in France and Germany suffered various local
persecutions and pogroms. An excellent book is "The History of the
Jews in Russia and Poland" by Simon Dubnov for much about this. I
have yet to see much material on the migration of the Ashkenazi
into Germany and France before 1300. I think it's safe to assume
they were residents of the Western Roman Empire in Italy and France
and the Rhineland (and even England, which expelled all Jews in the
mid 1200's) - but it's not clear if most would have moved north
from Italy during the dark ages (600-1100) or if most were already
in what is today France and the Rhineland.

It's a fascinating story, and one part I find puzzling is the origin
and staying power of Yiddish in that time.

Dave Richter
Bloomfield Michigan

RICHTER/BRENNER/WEISS Stanisalwow (ivano-Frankivsk)

Jordan Zakarin <jdzakarin@gmail.com> wrote...

... I read that the Jews of Galicia
originally came to Galicia in the middle ages >from Germany. Does
anyone know anything about this? And, does anyone know if they
went to Germany >from somewhere else even earlier?


Seeking information about nobleman ?SKINETSKI? from Rzeszow, Poland area #general

Beth Sommer <bethfsommer@...>
 

I have been told that my mggm, Frymet FELD GREHER, who lived in the Rzeszow area,
worked as a purchasing agent for a nobleman. She came to the US in 1891 and her
emplyment would have been just prior to leaving Poland/Austria. I have been trying
to find out his exact name and about his family. His name was pronounced something
like Yadviga Skinetski or Skenitski. His father was a general. I would like to know
how his name is spelled and would appreciate any other information any of you
can offer.

I would appreciate your help. You may respond privately. Thank you.

Beth Fagin Sommer
Philadelphia, PA
Researching FEIGIN/FAGIN(Voronezh>NY), STAROSELSKY(Voronezh>NY),
LEIBNER(Nowy Zmigrod>NY), GREHER/GREIER/FELD(Rzeszow/Tyczyn>NY, NJ)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking information about nobleman ?SKINETSKI? from Rzeszow, Poland area #general

Beth Sommer <bethfsommer@...>
 

I have been told that my mggm, Frymet FELD GREHER, who lived in the Rzeszow area,
worked as a purchasing agent for a nobleman. She came to the US in 1891 and her
emplyment would have been just prior to leaving Poland/Austria. I have been trying
to find out his exact name and about his family. His name was pronounced something
like Yadviga Skinetski or Skenitski. His father was a general. I would like to know
how his name is spelled and would appreciate any other information any of you
can offer.

I would appreciate your help. You may respond privately. Thank you.

Beth Fagin Sommer
Philadelphia, PA
Researching FEIGIN/FAGIN(Voronezh>NY), STAROSELSKY(Voronezh>NY),
LEIBNER(Nowy Zmigrod>NY), GREHER/GREIER/FELD(Rzeszow/Tyczyn>NY, NJ)


Fw: 15 Marriage Documents- Manhattan, NYC 1898- 1908 - Batch #3 #general

Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

3.-1 31 Dec 1898 Herry COHN 115 Ludlow St age 26 b. Russenland s/o Marcus & Sara
WEINSTEIN + Fanni GOLDBERG 30 Rivington St age 24 b. Austria d/o Lanaz & Betti
LANES by Nachum Schrage 1st Brodyer Bnei But Vern...72 Columbia St

3.-2 1 Dec 1898 Morris GOLDBERG 143 Forsythe St age 50 widowed b. Russia s/o Hyman
& Lena GOLDSTEIN + Sarah ROSEN 116 Monroe St age 40 widowed b. Russia d/o Israel &
Rose RESS by Thomas Weller Rabbi 108 Henry St

3.-325 Feb 1899 Barnet SIMON 145 Madison St age 23 b. Russia s/o Jacob & Gossie
Zikulsky + Lina KALINSKY 127 Henry St b. Russia d/o Nathan & Jannie KALINSKY by
Morris Seigel 1st Rom. Am. Cong 80 Delancey St

3.-4 12 Aug 1899 Morris GOLDBERG 167 Orchard St age 25 b. Rumania s/o Lepa & Lena
LAMER + Rosa Davidson 167 Orchard St age 22 b. Rumania d/o Alter & Hanna CLAIN by
Max ETKA 50 Essex St

3.-5 20 Jan 1901 Abraham ISAAC 165 E 65St age 23 b. NYC s/o Emanuel & Tehkla COHEN
+ Sadie COHEN 165 E 65St age 22 b. NYC d/o Raphael & Henriette MARBLESTONE by
Raphael Benjamin Hotel Premier NYC

3.-6 25 Jan 1925 Harris ROSENTHAL 165 Monroe St age 25 b. Russie s/o Abraham & Jeny
Rudmunsky + Bassie BASELEVSKY 14 Rutgers Pl age 20 b. Russie d/o Herman & Ide FINE
by I. WERSTEIN Rev of Vinitzer 51 Canal St

3.-7 26 Jan 1902 Herman KRAMER 164 E 101 St age 36 b. Hungary s/o Joseph & Maria
FREUND + Nettie FRUEND 167 E 103 St b. NY d/o LEVY & Sarah STORK by Rev Schuman
327-9St, res 574 -10St Bklyn

3.-822 Feb 1902 Nathan ARBEITSMAN 170 Rivington St age 22 b. Russia s/o Samuel &
Mimie KALITZKY + Lea (S)LARZSKY 236 Monroe St age 21 b. RussPol d/o Zalmer & Rachel
BLOTSKY by Wolf Rosenson 20 Orchard St, res 122 Monroe St

3.-9 25 Feb 1902 Henry COHN 298 Delancey age 37 b. Austria widowed s/o Wolf & Nicha
WIESANFELD + Scheindel SEIBUL 308 Delancey age 23 b. Austria d/o Chaskel & Merry
WALDMAN by Kopel ALLION Rev of Mezidestion?

3.-10 28 Dec 1902 Henry COHN 258 E 3 St age 29 widowed b.Russia s/o Wolf David &
B.B. ARPARSCHID + Sara Rifke FINKELSTEIN 258 E 3 St age 26 widowed b. Russia d/o
Selig & Dora F?asching by Rabbi 58 Sheriff St

3.-11 26 Nov 1902 Henry COHN 36 St Marks Pl age 28 b. RussPoland s/o Juda & Ester
HERMAN + Fanny ROSENGARTEN 58 E 3 St age 18 b. RussPoland d/o Bernhard & Sarah
Baumkoller by S.Schnur Rabbi of Sieniawer R Verein

3.-12 8 June 1905 Murray J. GOLDBERG 470 E Houston St age 21 b. Russia s/o Louis &
Yetta LASHER + Fannie SEIGEL 87 Gocrk?St age 21 b. Musccic? d/o Jacob & Sarah
CLAISMAN by Alderman res 418 W 25 St

3.-13 19 Mar 1905 Barnet SIMON age 24 b. Russia s/o Chone & mother unk + Mary WACHT
1348 - 5 Ave NYC b. Russia d/o Jacob & Annie LIVERANT by Davis JONEFSKY Cong Sons
of Israel res- 314 - 2 St Jersey City

3.-14 15 Jan 1907 Dave HORSHON 31 Gouveneer St age 27 b. Russia s/o Solomon & Slova
COHEN + Sadie SIMON 9 Rutgers Pl age 19 b. NY d/o Jacob & Beckie STOLOWITZ by
Israel Dirstein 206 Madison St

3.-15 30 May 1908 Henry COHN 180 Nassau St Bklyn age 25 b. NY s/o Leonard & Bertha
NATHAN + Sybyl BLOOMENFELD 210 E 10 St age 23 b. Turky d/o Isaak & Carlina by JF
Klugler Zion Brothers Bundt 247 E Houston St

Happy to scan on 26 Mar to anyone who can use these. Will post more next week.
Ellen Barbieri San Diego CA elsal@cox.net


Re: Hebrew name of Charlotte Ascher #general

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

I have mislaid the original message, but if the person who had asked about the Hebrew
name of Charlotte Ascher, wife of R. Alexander ARON, of Fegersheim, Alsace,will
contact me, I can probably provide that.

Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coordinator
FrenchSIG
Los Altos, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Fw: 15 Marriage Documents- Manhattan, NYC 1898- 1908 - Batch #3 #general

Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

3.-1 31 Dec 1898 Herry COHN 115 Ludlow St age 26 b. Russenland s/o Marcus & Sara
WEINSTEIN + Fanni GOLDBERG 30 Rivington St age 24 b. Austria d/o Lanaz & Betti
LANES by Nachum Schrage 1st Brodyer Bnei But Vern...72 Columbia St

3.-2 1 Dec 1898 Morris GOLDBERG 143 Forsythe St age 50 widowed b. Russia s/o Hyman
& Lena GOLDSTEIN + Sarah ROSEN 116 Monroe St age 40 widowed b. Russia d/o Israel &
Rose RESS by Thomas Weller Rabbi 108 Henry St

3.-325 Feb 1899 Barnet SIMON 145 Madison St age 23 b. Russia s/o Jacob & Gossie
Zikulsky + Lina KALINSKY 127 Henry St b. Russia d/o Nathan & Jannie KALINSKY by
Morris Seigel 1st Rom. Am. Cong 80 Delancey St

3.-4 12 Aug 1899 Morris GOLDBERG 167 Orchard St age 25 b. Rumania s/o Lepa & Lena
LAMER + Rosa Davidson 167 Orchard St age 22 b. Rumania d/o Alter & Hanna CLAIN by
Max ETKA 50 Essex St

3.-5 20 Jan 1901 Abraham ISAAC 165 E 65St age 23 b. NYC s/o Emanuel & Tehkla COHEN
+ Sadie COHEN 165 E 65St age 22 b. NYC d/o Raphael & Henriette MARBLESTONE by
Raphael Benjamin Hotel Premier NYC

3.-6 25 Jan 1925 Harris ROSENTHAL 165 Monroe St age 25 b. Russie s/o Abraham & Jeny
Rudmunsky + Bassie BASELEVSKY 14 Rutgers Pl age 20 b. Russie d/o Herman & Ide FINE
by I. WERSTEIN Rev of Vinitzer 51 Canal St

3.-7 26 Jan 1902 Herman KRAMER 164 E 101 St age 36 b. Hungary s/o Joseph & Maria
FREUND + Nettie FRUEND 167 E 103 St b. NY d/o LEVY & Sarah STORK by Rev Schuman
327-9St, res 574 -10St Bklyn

3.-822 Feb 1902 Nathan ARBEITSMAN 170 Rivington St age 22 b. Russia s/o Samuel &
Mimie KALITZKY + Lea (S)LARZSKY 236 Monroe St age 21 b. RussPol d/o Zalmer & Rachel
BLOTSKY by Wolf Rosenson 20 Orchard St, res 122 Monroe St

3.-9 25 Feb 1902 Henry COHN 298 Delancey age 37 b. Austria widowed s/o Wolf & Nicha
WIESANFELD + Scheindel SEIBUL 308 Delancey age 23 b. Austria d/o Chaskel & Merry
WALDMAN by Kopel ALLION Rev of Mezidestion?

3.-10 28 Dec 1902 Henry COHN 258 E 3 St age 29 widowed b.Russia s/o Wolf David &
B.B. ARPARSCHID + Sara Rifke FINKELSTEIN 258 E 3 St age 26 widowed b. Russia d/o
Selig & Dora F?asching by Rabbi 58 Sheriff St

3.-11 26 Nov 1902 Henry COHN 36 St Marks Pl age 28 b. RussPoland s/o Juda & Ester
HERMAN + Fanny ROSENGARTEN 58 E 3 St age 18 b. RussPoland d/o Bernhard & Sarah
Baumkoller by S.Schnur Rabbi of Sieniawer R Verein

3.-12 8 June 1905 Murray J. GOLDBERG 470 E Houston St age 21 b. Russia s/o Louis &
Yetta LASHER + Fannie SEIGEL 87 Gocrk?St age 21 b. Musccic? d/o Jacob & Sarah
CLAISMAN by Alderman res 418 W 25 St

3.-13 19 Mar 1905 Barnet SIMON age 24 b. Russia s/o Chone & mother unk + Mary WACHT
1348 - 5 Ave NYC b. Russia d/o Jacob & Annie LIVERANT by Davis JONEFSKY Cong Sons
of Israel res- 314 - 2 St Jersey City

3.-14 15 Jan 1907 Dave HORSHON 31 Gouveneer St age 27 b. Russia s/o Solomon & Slova
COHEN + Sadie SIMON 9 Rutgers Pl age 19 b. NY d/o Jacob & Beckie STOLOWITZ by
Israel Dirstein 206 Madison St

3.-15 30 May 1908 Henry COHN 180 Nassau St Bklyn age 25 b. NY s/o Leonard & Bertha
NATHAN + Sybyl BLOOMENFELD 210 E 10 St age 23 b. Turky d/o Isaak & Carlina by JF
Klugler Zion Brothers Bundt 247 E Houston St

Happy to scan on 26 Mar to anyone who can use these. Will post more next week.
Ellen Barbieri San Diego CA elsal@cox.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Hebrew name of Charlotte Ascher #general

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

I have mislaid the original message, but if the person who had asked about the Hebrew
name of Charlotte Ascher, wife of R. Alexander ARON, of Fegersheim, Alsace,will
contact me, I can probably provide that.

Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coordinator
FrenchSIG
Los Altos, CA


Nathan NATKIN (NOTKIN), mysterious death and NYC vital records #general

r r <rrover27@...>
 

Nathan NATKIN (NOTKIN) was a representative of the jewish settlement in israel to
collect funds >from american jewry. he made 2 trips, the first in 1867 and the
second later the next decade. These trips are documented >from his notes and other
sources in "Palestinian Messengers in America, 1849-79", available for selective
viewing on google books. Natkin met his untimely end while on duty in new york. he
fell ill and died (not long before june 2, 1879), many miles >from home, as recorded
on page 266, above (search notkin in books entry in google books).

Now the twist. NATKINS death is reported 9 years later in the jearusalem newspaper
Havazelet. In the januaray 12 issue of 1888 NATKINS death is reported, almost as
breaking news. (Available here, in hebrew (page 99)
http://jnul.huji.ac.il/dl/newspapers/havazelet/html/havazelet-18880113.htm).
Im not quite sure what to make of it, and would appreciate any suggestions.

My hunch is that there would be a death certificate issued in his name. these years
(1879, and 1887-7) arent indexed electronically, but are indexed on microfilm. if
anybody plans on pay a visit to NYC vital records office id be grateful if they
could contact me. I have paid for on research request, but i think i botched it and
cant afford another.

Are there jewish periodicals >from those years? Might their obituaries be indexed?

Would he have most likely been buried in NY or Israel?

Is there a Israel Genealogy forum where i might be able to ask this question?

Would there be any other books that might discuss his life or work. Its seems to me
that he wasn't a totally unknown figure, and actually quite well regarded in the
"Halluka".

Grateful for any suggestions,

Robert Rover
Goshen, New York

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Nathan NATKIN (NOTKIN), mysterious death and NYC vital records #general

r r <rrover27@...>
 

Nathan NATKIN (NOTKIN) was a representative of the jewish settlement in israel to
collect funds >from american jewry. he made 2 trips, the first in 1867 and the
second later the next decade. These trips are documented >from his notes and other
sources in "Palestinian Messengers in America, 1849-79", available for selective
viewing on google books. Natkin met his untimely end while on duty in new york. he
fell ill and died (not long before june 2, 1879), many miles >from home, as recorded
on page 266, above (search notkin in books entry in google books).

Now the twist. NATKINS death is reported 9 years later in the jearusalem newspaper
Havazelet. In the januaray 12 issue of 1888 NATKINS death is reported, almost as
breaking news. (Available here, in hebrew (page 99)
http://jnul.huji.ac.il/dl/newspapers/havazelet/html/havazelet-18880113.htm).
Im not quite sure what to make of it, and would appreciate any suggestions.

My hunch is that there would be a death certificate issued in his name. these years
(1879, and 1887-7) arent indexed electronically, but are indexed on microfilm. if
anybody plans on pay a visit to NYC vital records office id be grateful if they
could contact me. I have paid for on research request, but i think i botched it and
cant afford another.

Are there jewish periodicals >from those years? Might their obituaries be indexed?

Would he have most likely been buried in NY or Israel?

Is there a Israel Genealogy forum where i might be able to ask this question?

Would there be any other books that might discuss his life or work. Its seems to me
that he wasn't a totally unknown figure, and actually quite well regarded in the
"Halluka".

Grateful for any suggestions,

Robert Rover
Goshen, New York

Moderator Note: If you are interested in viewing the page whose URL is above, it
requires the ability to run a Java applet that may not be compatible with all
systems.