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BLAS/BLASS Family from Slovakia?Galicia? #hungary

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,
Though I have posted a query in the past I am counting on new members who may have a clue.
I found in the Auschwitz website a name of relative of mine,Hermann KOENIGSBUCH(1913-1942), who was born in Michalovce.His father was Joseph(probably my grandfather's brother).Yad Vashem provides (through the PoT based on the same source) that his mother was Helene Blas.Chaja Koenigsbuch (probably Helene) died and was buried in Michalovce in 1935(got this info through a private source). The Michalovce Yizkor book mentions KOENIGSBUCH + 3 children(no further details).All Koenigsbuchs hail >from Brzesko,Galicia so it was quite a surprise to find a branch in Slovakia(I later located also in Trebisov some Koenigsbuchs).
I presume that BLAS/BLASS family was >from Slovakia or may be >from Galicia.
Does it ring a bell?
Jacob Rosen
Amman,Jordan


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Hungary SIG #Hungary BLAS/BLASS Family from Slovakia?Galicia? #hungary

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,
Though I have posted a query in the past I am counting on new members who may have a clue.
I found in the Auschwitz website a name of relative of mine,Hermann KOENIGSBUCH(1913-1942), who was born in Michalovce.His father was Joseph(probably my grandfather's brother).Yad Vashem provides (through the PoT based on the same source) that his mother was Helene Blas.Chaja Koenigsbuch (probably Helene) died and was buried in Michalovce in 1935(got this info through a private source). The Michalovce Yizkor book mentions KOENIGSBUCH + 3 children(no further details).All Koenigsbuchs hail >from Brzesko,Galicia so it was quite a surprise to find a branch in Slovakia(I later located also in Trebisov some Koenigsbuchs).
I presume that BLAS/BLASS family was >from Slovakia or may be >from Galicia.
Does it ring a bell?
Jacob Rosen
Amman,Jordan


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Early 18th century listings of Jewish inhabitants {was: Wandsbeck, Germany} #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Ann Rabinowitz wrote: "The Jewish Encyclopedia which was published
in 1905 has a reference to Wandsbeck, Germany. It states that there
was an official listing made in 1734 of the Jewish families
(excluding single and widowed individuals) which totalled 123
families. Has anyone ever seen this listing as it seems to be a
valuable resource. Is it possible to obtain it and make it
accessible on JewishGen?"

There are many listings of Jews {who live all over central Europe} to
be found in many sources - the trouble is that these early listings
are difficult to interpret as most of the people had no family names.
They become more useful if the families stayed put and one can perhaps
identify them after they have adopted their names. There is a lot of
guesswork involved.

Thus the 1793 census of Bohemia is a great resource as the families
all had name by then [following Joseph II Toleranz Patent]; the 1783
census is harder to deal with and as you go back in time, it becomes
harder and harder. I suspect the situation with the Wandsbeck Jews in
Germany was similar, but I have no personal experience.

These early lists are all very fascinating resources, historically
and sociologically, but perhaps not as genealogically valuable as most
of us would like.

Celia Male - London, U.K.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Early 18th century listings of Jewish inhabitants {was: Wandsbeck, Germany} #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Ann Rabinowitz wrote: "The Jewish Encyclopedia which was published
in 1905 has a reference to Wandsbeck, Germany. It states that there
was an official listing made in 1734 of the Jewish families
(excluding single and widowed individuals) which totalled 123
families. Has anyone ever seen this listing as it seems to be a
valuable resource. Is it possible to obtain it and make it
accessible on JewishGen?"

There are many listings of Jews {who live all over central Europe} to
be found in many sources - the trouble is that these early listings
are difficult to interpret as most of the people had no family names.
They become more useful if the families stayed put and one can perhaps
identify them after they have adopted their names. There is a lot of
guesswork involved.

Thus the 1793 census of Bohemia is a great resource as the families
all had name by then [following Joseph II Toleranz Patent]; the 1783
census is harder to deal with and as you go back in time, it becomes
harder and harder. I suspect the situation with the Wandsbeck Jews in
Germany was similar, but I have no personal experience.

These early lists are all very fascinating resources, historically
and sociologically, but perhaps not as genealogically valuable as most
of us would like.

Celia Male - London, U.K.


Bardichov #general

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

I have been told that my paternal ggf is from
Bardichov. I have only found a few on line
references to this place name;-
Joe Swirling, Reb Moshe Hilperin and Reb
Levi Yitzchak. I have also been told that the
place name is not Berdichev but all the information
I have found points to them being one and the same.

My ggf's son was born in "Polonia", Russia, 1895, and
from what I can see, Berdichev was part of Poland,
now Ukraine, and was also called Bardichev amongst
others.

I would appreciate clarification for Bardichov so I
can search the relevant archives.

Many thanks.

Naomi Ogin a1steve@...
Brisbane
Searching: BENDEL, BIRK, BRESNARK, BRILLIANT, COVERMAN,
DAVIDOVITCH, DECORVICK, FELDMAN, GLASS, GREENBERG,
GOLD, GROSSMAN, KATZ, KRAMER, KOSSANSKY, LEBIS,LISEYZNSKI,
MANN, MELNICK, NATHAN, OGIN, POLIAKOFF, RABIN/OVITCH, RANDALL,
RUBE/INSTEIN, STEIN/STONE, TISMAN/TISHMAN/TIESMAN/TESMAN,
WILSON/WOOLFSON,GOLDWITZ, HIATT, HUNT, HARYUDA, CHERNOSKY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bardichov #general

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

I have been told that my paternal ggf is from
Bardichov. I have only found a few on line
references to this place name;-
Joe Swirling, Reb Moshe Hilperin and Reb
Levi Yitzchak. I have also been told that the
place name is not Berdichev but all the information
I have found points to them being one and the same.

My ggf's son was born in "Polonia", Russia, 1895, and
from what I can see, Berdichev was part of Poland,
now Ukraine, and was also called Bardichev amongst
others.

I would appreciate clarification for Bardichov so I
can search the relevant archives.

Many thanks.

Naomi Ogin a1steve@...
Brisbane
Searching: BENDEL, BIRK, BRESNARK, BRILLIANT, COVERMAN,
DAVIDOVITCH, DECORVICK, FELDMAN, GLASS, GREENBERG,
GOLD, GROSSMAN, KATZ, KRAMER, KOSSANSKY, LEBIS,LISEYZNSKI,
MANN, MELNICK, NATHAN, OGIN, POLIAKOFF, RABIN/OVITCH, RANDALL,
RUBE/INSTEIN, STEIN/STONE, TISMAN/TISHMAN/TIESMAN/TESMAN,
WILSON/WOOLFSON,GOLDWITZ, HIATT, HUNT, HARYUDA, CHERNOSKY


Re: next of kin SSDI #general

dennis gries
 

Recently, Dovie wrote:

I found someone on the Social Security Death Index who I believe is a member
of a lost branch of my family. The death has a (V) so it means someone
verified it. Is there a way to find the next of kin of someone if I know
the details >from the SSDI so I can find someone still around in that branch?

Here's some ideas:
1. The (V) means that the SSDI verified >from sources, rather than that
"somebody" verified it.
2. That means that the data might be correct, as I probably have done
thousands of obit checks for our research and as a volunteer for years, and
there are errors, even as to date.
3. Assuming the data to be correct, and a location is given, then there are
a few courses of action:

A. Go for the death certificate >from the state. But, first try getting an
obit.
B. Go for an obit. There are obits in some of the pay sites, and your
library may have access to them for you, including the best known one at the
library, and others even remotely >from your home. Or, hop over to
www.raogk.com and find a local volunteer for that area and post a
"please/thank you" request to that person. Most will do this free (I do).

Hopefully, you will nail this very soon.

Dennis in Sarasota FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: next of kin SSDI #general

dennis gries
 

Recently, Dovie wrote:

I found someone on the Social Security Death Index who I believe is a member
of a lost branch of my family. The death has a (V) so it means someone
verified it. Is there a way to find the next of kin of someone if I know
the details >from the SSDI so I can find someone still around in that branch?

Here's some ideas:
1. The (V) means that the SSDI verified >from sources, rather than that
"somebody" verified it.
2. That means that the data might be correct, as I probably have done
thousands of obit checks for our research and as a volunteer for years, and
there are errors, even as to date.
3. Assuming the data to be correct, and a location is given, then there are
a few courses of action:

A. Go for the death certificate >from the state. But, first try getting an
obit.
B. Go for an obit. There are obits in some of the pay sites, and your
library may have access to them for you, including the best known one at the
library, and others even remotely >from your home. Or, hop over to
www.raogk.com and find a local volunteer for that area and post a
"please/thank you" request to that person. Most will do this free (I do).

Hopefully, you will nail this very soon.

Dennis in Sarasota FL


Old Picture - Need Translation from Yiddish #general

Yaacov Slizak <yslizak@...>
 

Dear Friends,

I will be very grateful for a translation >from Yiddish to the
back side of an old photo I obtained, probably related to my SPOSOB,
SCHWARTZ or SZPRIC family. I can recognize the word "Korytnica" in the
upper left angle - which is the place where my grandfather was born in
Ukraine; but I can't make any sense of the text in Yiddish.

http://picasaweb.google.com/yslizak/Szpric#5258624997043038786

Names are - of course - the most important data I need, but a full
translation will be extremely helpful.

Please respond privately. Thanks in advance,

Yaacov Slizak,
Ennis, Ireland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Old Picture - Need Translation from Yiddish #general

Yaacov Slizak <yslizak@...>
 

Dear Friends,

I will be very grateful for a translation >from Yiddish to the
back side of an old photo I obtained, probably related to my SPOSOB,
SCHWARTZ or SZPRIC family. I can recognize the word "Korytnica" in the
upper left angle - which is the place where my grandfather was born in
Ukraine; but I can't make any sense of the text in Yiddish.

http://picasaweb.google.com/yslizak/Szpric#5258624997043038786

Names are - of course - the most important data I need, but a full
translation will be extremely helpful.

Please respond privately. Thanks in advance,

Yaacov Slizak,
Ennis, Ireland


irene jalowayski
 

This is very interesting and I wonder if there are other documents that are
similar for other areas of the Austro Hungarian empire. My great grandfather
Saloman SCHWARZ went >from Galzecs then in Hungary (now in Slovakia) to
Brunn/Brno in Moravia in 1850 to become the cantor at the newly forming
synagogue there. I just recently went there and although the synagogue was
destroyed during the Holocaust the burial society building and cemetery are
still intact. Saloman was ober Cantor until his death in 1888 and there are
two very large tombstones on his grave and on my g grandmother's as well
with a beautiful epitaph about him. The burial society building is quite
beautiful. The archives in Brno have a lot of census data about the people
in the community there but I would love to get data such as appears to be in
the Bohemia book for Moravia. Almost no Jews lived in Brno until 1848 and
later as they were prohibited and had to live in surrounding towns.

Irene Jalowayski, West Palm Beach Florida


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Brno #austria-czech

irene jalowayski
 

This is very interesting and I wonder if there are other documents that are
similar for other areas of the Austro Hungarian empire. My great grandfather
Saloman SCHWARZ went >from Galzecs then in Hungary (now in Slovakia) to
Brunn/Brno in Moravia in 1850 to become the cantor at the newly forming
synagogue there. I just recently went there and although the synagogue was
destroyed during the Holocaust the burial society building and cemetery are
still intact. Saloman was ober Cantor until his death in 1888 and there are
two very large tombstones on his grave and on my g grandmother's as well
with a beautiful epitaph about him. The burial society building is quite
beautiful. The archives in Brno have a lot of census data about the people
in the community there but I would love to get data such as appears to be in
the Bohemia book for Moravia. Almost no Jews lived in Brno until 1848 and
later as they were prohibited and had to live in surrounding towns.

Irene Jalowayski, West Palm Beach Florida


PHIL & MINNIE RABIN #unitedkingdom

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

I am searching for relatives of Phil and Minnie
RABIN. They married in London and moved to the
Brighton & Hove area.

Phil passed away in 1991 and is buried at Bear Road
Cemetery in Brighton. Minnie's sisters are Miriam
and Millie, brother in-laws, Harry and Dave.
One of the brothers used to have a Gypsy/Hawaiian
type band that broadcast on the radio.

Phil was born in the East End c.1904-1906.
His parents were Reverend Aaron RABINOVITCH and
Rosa nee DAVIDOVITCH. His siblings, also known
as RABIN were - Jack(Jacob) m Eve BENDEL, Louis m
Marie SONING, Mimi(Miriam)m Woolfie OGIN, Lily m
Harry GROSSMAN, Ted(Theodore Harry) m Fay, Eve married
Sid/Solly KRAMER and Rachel/Ray m ?.

Please contact me on a1steve@... if these names
are familiar.

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching: BENDEL, BIRK, BRESNARK, BRILLIANT, COVERMAN,
DAVIDOVITCH, DECORVICK, FELDMAN, GLASS, GREENBERG,
GOLD, GROSSMAN, KATZ, KRAMER, KOSSANSKY, LEBIS,
LISEYZNSKI, MANN, MELNICK, NATHAN, OGIN, POLIAKOFF,
RABIN/OVITCH, RANDALL, RUBE/INSTEIN, STEIN/STONE,
TISMAN/TISHMAN/TIESMAN/TESMAN, WILSON/WOOLFSON,
GOLDWITZ, HIATT, HUNT, HARYUDA, CHERNOSKY


SONING & RABIN #unitedkingdom

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

In May, 1939, Marie SONING (1916-2000) married
Louis/Lou RABIN (1910-2000) at the Great Synagogue,
Dukes Place. Their Hebrew names are Malka daughter
of Abraham and Eleazar son of Aaron.

They had two sons, Martin and Stephen RABIN.

Lou's parents were Reverend Aaron RABINOVITCH and
Rosa nee DAVIDOVITCH. His siblings were known
as RABIN - Jack(Jacob) m Eve BENDEL, Lily m
Harry GROSSMAN, Mimi(Miriam)m Woolfie OGIN, Phil m
Minnie, Ted(Theodore Harry) m Fay, Eve married
Sid/Solly KRAMER and Rachel/Ray m Morris ALTERESCO.

Please contact me on a1steve@... if these names
are familiar.

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching: BENDEL, BIRK, BRESNARK, BRILLIANT, COVERMAN,
DAVIDOVITCH, DECORVICK, FELDMAN, GLASS, GREENBERG,
GOLD, GROSSMAN, KATZ, KRAMER, KOSSANSKY, LEBIS,
LISEYZNSKI, MANN, MELNICK, NATHAN, OGIN, POLIAKOFF,
RABIN/OVITCH, RANDALL, RUBE/INSTEIN, STEIN/STONE,
TISMAN/TISHMAN/TIESMAN/TESMAN, WILSON/WOOLFSON,
GOLDWITZ, HIATT, HUNT, HARYUDA, CHERNOSKY


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom PHIL & MINNIE RABIN #unitedkingdom

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

I am searching for relatives of Phil and Minnie
RABIN. They married in London and moved to the
Brighton & Hove area.

Phil passed away in 1991 and is buried at Bear Road
Cemetery in Brighton. Minnie's sisters are Miriam
and Millie, brother in-laws, Harry and Dave.
One of the brothers used to have a Gypsy/Hawaiian
type band that broadcast on the radio.

Phil was born in the East End c.1904-1906.
His parents were Reverend Aaron RABINOVITCH and
Rosa nee DAVIDOVITCH. His siblings, also known
as RABIN were - Jack(Jacob) m Eve BENDEL, Louis m
Marie SONING, Mimi(Miriam)m Woolfie OGIN, Lily m
Harry GROSSMAN, Ted(Theodore Harry) m Fay, Eve married
Sid/Solly KRAMER and Rachel/Ray m ?.

Please contact me on a1steve@... if these names
are familiar.

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching: BENDEL, BIRK, BRESNARK, BRILLIANT, COVERMAN,
DAVIDOVITCH, DECORVICK, FELDMAN, GLASS, GREENBERG,
GOLD, GROSSMAN, KATZ, KRAMER, KOSSANSKY, LEBIS,
LISEYZNSKI, MANN, MELNICK, NATHAN, OGIN, POLIAKOFF,
RABIN/OVITCH, RANDALL, RUBE/INSTEIN, STEIN/STONE,
TISMAN/TISHMAN/TIESMAN/TESMAN, WILSON/WOOLFSON,
GOLDWITZ, HIATT, HUNT, HARYUDA, CHERNOSKY


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom SONING & RABIN #unitedkingdom

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

In May, 1939, Marie SONING (1916-2000) married
Louis/Lou RABIN (1910-2000) at the Great Synagogue,
Dukes Place. Their Hebrew names are Malka daughter
of Abraham and Eleazar son of Aaron.

They had two sons, Martin and Stephen RABIN.

Lou's parents were Reverend Aaron RABINOVITCH and
Rosa nee DAVIDOVITCH. His siblings were known
as RABIN - Jack(Jacob) m Eve BENDEL, Lily m
Harry GROSSMAN, Mimi(Miriam)m Woolfie OGIN, Phil m
Minnie, Ted(Theodore Harry) m Fay, Eve married
Sid/Solly KRAMER and Rachel/Ray m Morris ALTERESCO.

Please contact me on a1steve@... if these names
are familiar.

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching: BENDEL, BIRK, BRESNARK, BRILLIANT, COVERMAN,
DAVIDOVITCH, DECORVICK, FELDMAN, GLASS, GREENBERG,
GOLD, GROSSMAN, KATZ, KRAMER, KOSSANSKY, LEBIS,
LISEYZNSKI, MANN, MELNICK, NATHAN, OGIN, POLIAKOFF,
RABIN/OVITCH, RANDALL, RUBE/INSTEIN, STEIN/STONE,
TISMAN/TISHMAN/TIESMAN/TESMAN, WILSON/WOOLFSON,
GOLDWITZ, HIATT, HUNT, HARYUDA, CHERNOSKY


From Here to Eternity: Jewish Cemetery Research, Preservation and Restoration (NY) #galicia

Linda Cantor <lincan@...>
 

On Sunday, November 16, 2008, the Lucille Gudis Memorial Fund of the
Jewish Genealogical Society (NY) will present an all-day seminar,
">from Here to Eternity: Jewish Cemetery Research, Preservation and
Restoration." The seminar will take place at the UJA-Federation
located at 130 East 59th Street, NY, >from 9 a.m. to 4:45 p.m.

There is a registration fee for the seminar, which includes the cost
of a kosher buffet lunch.

The registration form for the seminar can be downloaded at
www.jgsny.org.

*** Only advanced registration will be accepted!

*** Registration must be received by November 10, 2008!

*** Registration will not be available after that date!

The schedule for the day is as follows:

8:45 - 9:00 Sign in

Session 1 - Joyce Field, JewishGen Vice President, Data Acquisition:
The JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry (JOWBR)

Session 2 - Ada Green, Chair of the JGS (NY) Cemetery Project:
How to Catalog Jewish Cemeteries for the JOWBR

Lunch

Session 3 - Rabbi Abraham Laber, founder of Jewishdata.com:
Do Stones Speak? - Interpreting Jewish Monuments; Visiting Jewish
Cemeteries; Jewishdata.com

Session 4 - Panel on Cemetery Preservation and Restoration:
Chaim Bruder, Heritage Foundation for the Preservation of Jewish
Cemeteries; Steve Lasky, Founder of the Museum of Family History;
Norman Weinberg, Executive Coordinator of Poland Jewish Cemeteries
Restoration Project

Advanced registration for the seminar is required for the three
earlier sessions and for lunch. The panel is an open session for
all JGS members and it will be the November JGS meeting, which will
begin at 2:30.

Linda Cantor
President, JGS (NY)
lincan@...


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia From Here to Eternity: Jewish Cemetery Research, Preservation and Restoration (NY) #galicia

Linda Cantor <lincan@...>
 

On Sunday, November 16, 2008, the Lucille Gudis Memorial Fund of the
Jewish Genealogical Society (NY) will present an all-day seminar,
">from Here to Eternity: Jewish Cemetery Research, Preservation and
Restoration." The seminar will take place at the UJA-Federation
located at 130 East 59th Street, NY, >from 9 a.m. to 4:45 p.m.

There is a registration fee for the seminar, which includes the cost
of a kosher buffet lunch.

The registration form for the seminar can be downloaded at
www.jgsny.org.

*** Only advanced registration will be accepted!

*** Registration must be received by November 10, 2008!

*** Registration will not be available after that date!

The schedule for the day is as follows:

8:45 - 9:00 Sign in

Session 1 - Joyce Field, JewishGen Vice President, Data Acquisition:
The JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry (JOWBR)

Session 2 - Ada Green, Chair of the JGS (NY) Cemetery Project:
How to Catalog Jewish Cemeteries for the JOWBR

Lunch

Session 3 - Rabbi Abraham Laber, founder of Jewishdata.com:
Do Stones Speak? - Interpreting Jewish Monuments; Visiting Jewish
Cemeteries; Jewishdata.com

Session 4 - Panel on Cemetery Preservation and Restoration:
Chaim Bruder, Heritage Foundation for the Preservation of Jewish
Cemeteries; Steve Lasky, Founder of the Museum of Family History;
Norman Weinberg, Executive Coordinator of Poland Jewish Cemeteries
Restoration Project

Advanced registration for the seminar is required for the three
earlier sessions and for lunch. The panel is an open session for
all JGS members and it will be the November JGS meeting, which will
begin at 2:30.

Linda Cantor
President, JGS (NY)
lincan@...


Ephraim REZNEK #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Many people ask about Resnick, Reznick, etc., and I just found the following
REZNEK who was an American who came to work and live in South Africa.

Ephraim REZNEK, born September 15, 1875, Kovno, Lithuania, arriving in the
US >from Bremen on November 8, 1892, settling in Philadelphia, and then
arriving in SA on June 4, 1896, settling Johannesburg.

I know nothing more about this individual and am not related to him.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


Help with a Marriage Record Translation #lithuania

Patricia Manning <patmanning@...>
 

I believe I found one of my relatives in Poland and I have a marriage
record that is probably in Russian that I would like to get
translated.

At the moment, ViewMate is not an option so I wonder if anyone could
email me with contact suggestions so I could make arrangements to have
the document translated.

Thank you

Patricia Manning
patmanning@...

Researching: Abelski (Seta, Panevezys) (and apparently Grajewo Poland)

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.