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Family name used as first name #poland

Harold Lewin
 

The Births Records of the Great and Hambro Synagogues, London contain
many examples of a family name used as a first name.

Harold Lewin -
Jerusalem


JRI Poland #Poland Family name used as first name #poland

Harold Lewin
 

The Births Records of the Great and Hambro Synagogues, London contain
many examples of a family name used as a first name.

Harold Lewin -
Jerusalem


Re: Cases of 1st names sounding like surnames #general

Isabel Cymerman
 

I had a great uncle whose Hebrew name was Gutl. His grandfather, in
Vilna, was called Gutman. So it is a first name. BTW, in England he
was called Goodman.

Isabel Cymerman


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Cases of 1st names sounding like surnames #poland

Isabel Cymerman
 

I had a great uncle whose Hebrew name was Gutl. His grandfather, in
Vilna, was called Gutman. So it is a first name. BTW, in England he
was called Goodman.

Isabel Cymerman


Re: Is Ittla/Ittel Also Jettl #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Galicianers,

Thanks to the many of you who responded privately.
The consensus and the joint experience of you all confirms that
Ittla and Ittel and Jettl is the same name.

Regards >from Amman
Jacob Rosen


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Is Ittla/Ittel Also Jettl #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Galicianers,

Thanks to the many of you who responded privately.
The consensus and the joint experience of you all confirms that
Ittla and Ittel and Jettl is the same name.

Regards >from Amman
Jacob Rosen


Re: Need help please [names on birth certificate]: Wolf and William #galicia

Renate Krakauer
 

I have many Wolf's in my family tree. My father, born in Poland,
was named after a Wolf and in Polish, his name was Wilo, in German,
it was Wilhelm (on papers when we came to Canada), and in Canada
it's been William (or Bill). A cousin of his named after the same
Wolf ancestor who emigrated to the USA in the 1930s was also William.
By the way, the name in Yiddish is Velvel and in Hebrew, it's Ze'ev.

Renate Krakauer


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: Need help please [names on birth certificate]: Wolf and William #galicia

Renate Krakauer
 

I have many Wolf's in my family tree. My father, born in Poland,
was named after a Wolf and in Polish, his name was Wilo, in German,
it was Wilhelm (on papers when we came to Canada), and in Canada
it's been William (or Bill). A cousin of his named after the same
Wolf ancestor who emigrated to the USA in the 1930s was also William.
By the way, the name in Yiddish is Velvel and in Hebrew, it's Ze'ev.

Renate Krakauer


Wolf, William and Benjamin #galicia

Inacio Steinhardt
 

Jews in Galicia, once a part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, had
usually an Jewish name and a German name. My late grandfather was
Hersh and also Herman, my late uncle Joachim was also Richard, and
my late father was Zeew, but also Wolf and William.

The second point is that the given name Zeew (Wolf) was usually
associated with Benjamin, as Yehuda was associated with Leon, etc,
My father had not Benjamin in his names, but Theodor Herzl, for
instance, was Benjamin Zeew Herzl.

Inacio

Inacio Steinhardt
Givat Savion
Ganei Tikva 55900
Israel
inacio@...
www.steinhardts.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Wolf, William and Benjamin #galicia

Inacio Steinhardt
 

Jews in Galicia, once a part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, had
usually an Jewish name and a German name. My late grandfather was
Hersh and also Herman, my late uncle Joachim was also Richard, and
my late father was Zeew, but also Wolf and William.

The second point is that the given name Zeew (Wolf) was usually
associated with Benjamin, as Yehuda was associated with Leon, etc,
My father had not Benjamin in his names, but Theodor Herzl, for
instance, was Benjamin Zeew Herzl.

Inacio

Inacio Steinhardt
Givat Savion
Ganei Tikva 55900
Israel
inacio@...
www.steinhardts.com


Wolf, William, Benjamin #galicia

Marion Hattenbach Bernstein
 

Also, does anyone know if the first name of Wolf might be William
or Benjamin?
Wolf and Benjamin are often related -- due to Jacob's comparing
Benjamin to a wolf. My father was a Walter Benjamin with the Hebrew
name Binyamin. His grandfather was a Wolf/Binyamin. The Yiddish
equivalent of Wolf, Velvel, is often used, and many Benjamin/Wolfs
become Williams in the U.S. Check out the Given Names Database on
JewishGen!

Marion H. Bernstein
San Antonio, TX

MODERATOR'S NOTE: The Given Names Data Bases (GNDBs) can be searched at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/search.htm


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Wolf, William, Benjamin #galicia

Marion Hattenbach Bernstein
 

Also, does anyone know if the first name of Wolf might be William
or Benjamin?
Wolf and Benjamin are often related -- due to Jacob's comparing
Benjamin to a wolf. My father was a Walter Benjamin with the Hebrew
name Binyamin. His grandfather was a Wolf/Binyamin. The Yiddish
equivalent of Wolf, Velvel, is often used, and many Benjamin/Wolfs
become Williams in the U.S. Check out the Given Names Database on
JewishGen!

Marion H. Bernstein
San Antonio, TX

MODERATOR'S NOTE: The Given Names Data Bases (GNDBs) can be searched at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/search.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSPBCI FL February Membership Meeting Notice #general

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Jewish Genealogical Society Palm Beach County Inc., FL, USA

Wednesday, February 11, 2009
South County Civic Center, 16700 Jog road, Delray Beach
Romania Special Interest Group (SIG)Room 1,11:30 AM.-12:30 P.M.
Hungary Special Interest Group (SIG)Room 2,11:30 A.M.-12:30 P.M.
Brick wall session: 12:30 P.M.-1 P.M.
Short Business Meeting followed by Program - featuring guest speaker,
Stephen P. Morse
Topic: "One-Step Web-pages: A Hodgepodge of Lesser-Known Gems"

Stephen P. Morse, the computer genius who has attracted attention
worldwide with his One-Step method for searching the Ellis Island
Database and the 1930 United States census will make a rare appearance
in south Florida as guest speaker at our February meeting.

Shortly after the Ellis Island Foundation website opened, Morse
devised an alternate way to extract the EIDB information and has been
hailed as the guru of Ellis Island information. Since then, Morse has
gone on to develop other major search pages.

A complete listing of his One Step Web-Pages and information on how
to use them can be found at http://stevemorse.org.

Morse, who resides in California, is a computer professional who is
best known as one of the architects of the Intel 8086 microprocessor
(grandfather of today's Pentium processor) which sparked the PC
revolution 20 years ago. He has a Ph.D. in electrical engineering.

The researching of his Russian-Jewish origins for the past several
years has led him to develop remarkable programs that have been
beneficial to all genealogists searching similar areas.

For additional information, see our website:
www.jgspalmbeachcounty.org

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita
Genealogy Workbook Editor
JGSPBCI, FL, USA


JGSPBCI FL February Membership Meeting Notice #general

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Jewish Genealogical Society Palm Beach County Inc., FL, USA

Wednesday, February 11, 2009
South County Civic Center, 16700 Jog road, Delray Beach
Romania Special Interest Group (SIG)Room 1,11:30 AM.-12:30 P.M.
Hungary Special Interest Group (SIG)Room 2,11:30 A.M.-12:30 P.M.
Brick wall session: 12:30 P.M.-1 P.M.
Short Business Meeting followed by Program - featuring guest speaker,
Stephen P. Morse
Topic: "One-Step Web-pages: A Hodgepodge of Lesser-Known Gems"

Stephen P. Morse, the computer genius who has attracted attention
worldwide with his One-Step method for searching the Ellis Island
Database and the 1930 United States census will make a rare appearance
in south Florida as guest speaker at our February meeting.

Shortly after the Ellis Island Foundation website opened, Morse
devised an alternate way to extract the EIDB information and has been
hailed as the guru of Ellis Island information. Since then, Morse has
gone on to develop other major search pages.

A complete listing of his One Step Web-Pages and information on how
to use them can be found at http://stevemorse.org.

Morse, who resides in California, is a computer professional who is
best known as one of the architects of the Intel 8086 microprocessor
(grandfather of today's Pentium processor) which sparked the PC
revolution 20 years ago. He has a Ph.D. in electrical engineering.

The researching of his Russian-Jewish origins for the past several
years has led him to develop remarkable programs that have been
beneficial to all genealogists searching similar areas.

For additional information, see our website:
www.jgspalmbeachcounty.org

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita
Genealogy Workbook Editor
JGSPBCI, FL, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen clarification regarding the JGSCV February 8 meeting #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

Several JewishGenners wrote to me that they did not know where we
located or in which country as in my January 24 posting of the Jewish
Genealogical Society of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County (JGSCV)
February 8 meeting with Arthur Benveniste talking on Secret Jews:
History and Culture of Crypto-Jews and Their Research For Jewish Roots
and Identity I never mentioned where we were located as I had not
spelled out JGSCV. Sorry for the goof... We are located in Southern
California (USA)-Los Angeles and Ventura Counties.

For more information on the meeting and the JGSCV see our website:
www.jgscv.org

Jan Meisels Allen
President, JGSCV


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cases of 1st names sounding like surnames #general

MBernet@...
 

avreimale@... had written:
"did anyone come across a name that consists of what seems to be 2 surnames?
I have here in my documents Gutman Ajzenberg z"l. My Polish friend
that translated the documents for me at first suggested that the 1st
name was Gutman, but I rebuked saying it can't be, doesn't sound like
a first name. But then comes a 2nd document where the spelling doesn't
leave much doubt anymore: it indeed reads Gutman.
Is this common ?"

HPOLLINS@... responded:
These names are taken a random >from the Censuses of England and Wales:

"Zusman Zusman, Wolverhampton; Zusman Phillips, Mile End; Zusman
Abrahams, Leeds; Zusman Solomon, Leeds. Cohen Silman, Sheffield; Cohen
Levy, Bromley by Bow; Cohen Harris, Bristol.
[I have checked that the names have not been inverted: other members of the
household have the surnames Levy and Harris, for example and 'Cohen' is
clearly written] "

Actually, the reverse is true: first names became surnames. We must recall
that a very large proportion of Jewish surnames in Europe started off as
Hebrew first name, translated into German or Yiddish and/or embellished
with a suffix. Alexander Beider traces Gutman to a name used by German
Christians in the 9th century. Gutman was usually a kinnuy for Tuviah.

Zusman was and still is a popular Jewish first name. My first documented
[c 1650]direct ancestor in the male line was Suessel or Suesslein [ben]
Hirsch. Part of the family retained the Suess name in various forms as
surnames.

"There are several with the forename Levy, but this night be a misreporting
of Levi."

Levi is not often used as a first name (though his brothers, the twelve sons
of Jacob, see their names perpetuated ias Hebrew first names). But remember
Levi Eshkol, late Prime Minister of Israel. [Levi Strauss, however, was Judah
Loew; he adopted the Levi name in America because it sounded to him more
American and less Jewish than Loew when he started selling sturdy pants to
gold miners.]

Michael Bernet, New York


clarification regarding the JGSCV February 8 meeting #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

Several JewishGenners wrote to me that they did not know where we
located or in which country as in my January 24 posting of the Jewish
Genealogical Society of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County (JGSCV)
February 8 meeting with Arthur Benveniste talking on Secret Jews:
History and Culture of Crypto-Jews and Their Research For Jewish Roots
and Identity I never mentioned where we were located as I had not
spelled out JGSCV. Sorry for the goof... We are located in Southern
California (USA)-Los Angeles and Ventura Counties.

For more information on the meeting and the JGSCV see our website:
www.jgscv.org

Jan Meisels Allen
President, JGSCV


Re: Cases of 1st names sounding like surnames #general

MBernet@...
 

avreimale@... had written:
"did anyone come across a name that consists of what seems to be 2 surnames?
I have here in my documents Gutman Ajzenberg z"l. My Polish friend
that translated the documents for me at first suggested that the 1st
name was Gutman, but I rebuked saying it can't be, doesn't sound like
a first name. But then comes a 2nd document where the spelling doesn't
leave much doubt anymore: it indeed reads Gutman.
Is this common ?"

HPOLLINS@... responded:
These names are taken a random >from the Censuses of England and Wales:

"Zusman Zusman, Wolverhampton; Zusman Phillips, Mile End; Zusman
Abrahams, Leeds; Zusman Solomon, Leeds. Cohen Silman, Sheffield; Cohen
Levy, Bromley by Bow; Cohen Harris, Bristol.
[I have checked that the names have not been inverted: other members of the
household have the surnames Levy and Harris, for example and 'Cohen' is
clearly written] "

Actually, the reverse is true: first names became surnames. We must recall
that a very large proportion of Jewish surnames in Europe started off as
Hebrew first name, translated into German or Yiddish and/or embellished
with a suffix. Alexander Beider traces Gutman to a name used by German
Christians in the 9th century. Gutman was usually a kinnuy for Tuviah.

Zusman was and still is a popular Jewish first name. My first documented
[c 1650]direct ancestor in the male line was Suessel or Suesslein [ben]
Hirsch. Part of the family retained the Suess name in various forms as
surnames.

"There are several with the forename Levy, but this night be a misreporting
of Levi."

Levi is not often used as a first name (though his brothers, the twelve sons
of Jacob, see their names perpetuated ias Hebrew first names). But remember
Levi Eshkol, late Prime Minister of Israel. [Levi Strauss, however, was Judah
Loew; he adopted the Levi name in America because it sounded to him more
American and less Jewish than Loew when he started selling sturdy pants to
gold miners.]

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen new online newspapers from ProQuest #general

Bob Kosovsky
 

Those of you who visit large research libraries may be familiar with ProQuest,
a provider of a series of historical American newspapers. They digitize
American newspapers and make them available as full-text searchable databases.

As an employee of The New York Public Library, I was notified that ProQuest has
added these titles to their Historical Newspapers database, available at many
research libraries throughout the US:

The Atlanta Constitution (1868-1939)
The Hartford Courant (1764-1984)
The San Francisco Chronicle (1865-1922)
The New York Tribune - extended dates (1841-1922)
The Guardian [Manchester] & Observer [London] (1791-2003)

Those of you who live in or near New York will be happy to know that ProQuest
Historical Newspapers are available not just at the research libraries but at
all 89 branches throughout the Bronx, Manhattan, and Staten Island.

Note that ProQuest Historical Newspapers and other productors are marketed to
libraries. I've not heard of them being being made available to individuals
at home.

Bob Kosovsky, New York City, seeking any and all permutations/locations of:
KASOFSKI/Y, KASOVSKI/Y, KASOWSKI/Y, KOSOFSKY, KOSOVSKY, KOSOWSKY, etc.
KOSOW, KOSSOVE, etc. and other derivatives; >from Slutsk: GELFAND, DAVIDSON
Klodawa: JARET, JARETSKY, JARECKI, KOLSKY/I; Przedecz: PIFKO, PIWKO


new online newspapers from ProQuest #general

Bob Kosovsky
 

Those of you who visit large research libraries may be familiar with ProQuest,
a provider of a series of historical American newspapers. They digitize
American newspapers and make them available as full-text searchable databases.

As an employee of The New York Public Library, I was notified that ProQuest has
added these titles to their Historical Newspapers database, available at many
research libraries throughout the US:

The Atlanta Constitution (1868-1939)
The Hartford Courant (1764-1984)
The San Francisco Chronicle (1865-1922)
The New York Tribune - extended dates (1841-1922)
The Guardian [Manchester] & Observer [London] (1791-2003)

Those of you who live in or near New York will be happy to know that ProQuest
Historical Newspapers are available not just at the research libraries but at
all 89 branches throughout the Bronx, Manhattan, and Staten Island.

Note that ProQuest Historical Newspapers and other productors are marketed to
libraries. I've not heard of them being being made available to individuals
at home.

Bob Kosovsky, New York City, seeking any and all permutations/locations of:
KASOFSKI/Y, KASOVSKI/Y, KASOWSKI/Y, KOSOFSKY, KOSOVSKY, KOSOWSKY, etc.
KOSOW, KOSSOVE, etc. and other derivatives; >from Slutsk: GELFAND, DAVIDSON
Klodawa: JARET, JARETSKY, JARECKI, KOLSKY/I; Przedecz: PIFKO, PIWKO