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Bychawa, Yizkor Book Project #austria-czech

carlos.spitz@...
 

Subject: Yizkor Book Project, August 2011
From: "Lance Ackerfeld" <lance.ackerfeld@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:06:44 +0300
X-Message-Number: 7

Ref:
- Bychawa, Poland (Bychawa; a memorial to the Jewish community of Bychawa,
Lubelska) http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Bychawa/Bychawa.html


Where can I purchase the English translation of this book??

Best regards,
Carlos Spitz
JewishGen ID: 274624


www.toledot.org #austria-czech

morav@...
 

Hi,

I'm interested in searching familiant records for Bohemia and found reference to the Toledot site in the
discussion group. When I visit the site I find only listings of surnames by region. I had hoped that the actual
records would be available at the site. Am I missing something or is it really just lists of surnames there?

Thanks, Philip Moravcik, Honolulu


The JewishGen ShtetlSeeker is now the JewishGen Gazetteer #austria-czech

Groll, Avraham
 

On August 16th, at the recent IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy,
Warren Blatt announced that the "JewishGen ShtetlSeeker" was being
renamed to become the "JewishGen Gazetteer." This name was chosen to
more accurately reflect the contents of the database.

The JewishGen Gazetteer is based upon data >from the U.S. Board on
Geographic Names, and contains the names of one million localities
from 54 countries throughout Europe, North Africa, the Middle East,
and Central Asia.

Along with the name change, a number of significant improvements
have been made:

1. The geographic scope has been expanded to include:
a. Scandinavia: Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Finland.
b. Iberia: Spain and Portugal.
c. Luxembourg.
d. Kyrgyzstan (the only former Soviet Republic not previously included).
e. Yemen.

2. Improved Search Functionality:
a. Names in non-Latin alphabets (such as Arabic and Cyrillic) are
now displayed (this is extremely useful when trying to locate towns based
upon old documents).
b. "Beider-Morse Phonetic Matching," a more advanced and accurate
form of Soundex coding, has been implemented.
c. Search results are now displayed in order of relevance, with
the most likely matches appearing first.

The JewishGen Gazetteer has helped thousands of people identify the places
where their ancestors lived. The new name of the database, along with the
technical improvements, will enable JewishGen to continue helping amateur
and professional genealogists as they research their Jewish family history
and heritage.

The database can be accessed by visiting
<http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp>.
If you have any questions or suggestions, please email info@JewishGen.org.

We hope you will find this change beneficial, and thank you for your
continued support of JewishGen's important work.

Avraham Groll
Director of Business Operations
agroll@JewishGen.org


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Bychawa, Yizkor Book Project #austria-czech

carlos.spitz@...
 

Subject: Yizkor Book Project, August 2011
From: "Lance Ackerfeld" <lance.ackerfeld@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:06:44 +0300
X-Message-Number: 7

Ref:
- Bychawa, Poland (Bychawa; a memorial to the Jewish community of Bychawa,
Lubelska) http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Bychawa/Bychawa.html


Where can I purchase the English translation of this book??

Best regards,
Carlos Spitz
JewishGen ID: 274624


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech www.toledot.org #austria-czech

morav@...
 

Hi,

I'm interested in searching familiant records for Bohemia and found reference to the Toledot site in the
discussion group. When I visit the site I find only listings of surnames by region. I had hoped that the actual
records would be available at the site. Am I missing something or is it really just lists of surnames there?

Thanks, Philip Moravcik, Honolulu


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech The JewishGen ShtetlSeeker is now the JewishGen Gazetteer #austria-czech

Groll, Avraham
 

On August 16th, at the recent IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy,
Warren Blatt announced that the "JewishGen ShtetlSeeker" was being
renamed to become the "JewishGen Gazetteer." This name was chosen to
more accurately reflect the contents of the database.

The JewishGen Gazetteer is based upon data >from the U.S. Board on
Geographic Names, and contains the names of one million localities
from 54 countries throughout Europe, North Africa, the Middle East,
and Central Asia.

Along with the name change, a number of significant improvements
have been made:

1. The geographic scope has been expanded to include:
a. Scandinavia: Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Finland.
b. Iberia: Spain and Portugal.
c. Luxembourg.
d. Kyrgyzstan (the only former Soviet Republic not previously included).
e. Yemen.

2. Improved Search Functionality:
a. Names in non-Latin alphabets (such as Arabic and Cyrillic) are
now displayed (this is extremely useful when trying to locate towns based
upon old documents).
b. "Beider-Morse Phonetic Matching," a more advanced and accurate
form of Soundex coding, has been implemented.
c. Search results are now displayed in order of relevance, with
the most likely matches appearing first.

The JewishGen Gazetteer has helped thousands of people identify the places
where their ancestors lived. The new name of the database, along with the
technical improvements, will enable JewishGen to continue helping amateur
and professional genealogists as they research their Jewish family history
and heritage.

The database can be accessed by visiting
<http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp>.
If you have any questions or suggestions, please email info@JewishGen.org.

We hope you will find this change beneficial, and thank you for your
continued support of JewishGen's important work.

Avraham Groll
Director of Business Operations
agroll@JewishGen.org


Re: Report from Washington #austria-czech

David & Diana Laufer
 

Robert,

As you stated a major decision like this would normally be tabled as a
motion for discussion at a meeting.

My understanding is that it was discussed at the meeting of the AustriaCzech
SIG during the recent IAJGS conference.
That would be the most appropriate occasion to have such a meeting and the
meeting was well publicised.
Randy Schoenberg stated there were 23 members at the meeting. Enough to
form a quorum.

Regards

David Laufer
Lane Cove NSW Australia


Austria-Czech Support of Czech Archives Digitization #austria-czech

susanbuyer@...
 

I was at the Austria Czech meeting in DC where a substantial group of
members discussed the proposal and=A0 voted unanimously to approve it.
I can't think of a better use of Austria Czech funds than to support
preservation and access to these important records in the Czech
Archives. Randy has explored this thoroughly with the Archives staff
and there is a plan for working with the various players and
appropriately phasing implementation of the various components of the
project.

My vote is to strongly support the proposal and move ahead to helping
to make these resources available to all.

Susan Buyer
Potomac, MD


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech RE: Re:Report from Washington #austria-czech

David & Diana Laufer
 

Robert,

As you stated a major decision like this would normally be tabled as a
motion for discussion at a meeting.

My understanding is that it was discussed at the meeting of the AustriaCzech
SIG during the recent IAJGS conference.
That would be the most appropriate occasion to have such a meeting and the
meeting was well publicised.
Randy Schoenberg stated there were 23 members at the meeting. Enough to
form a quorum.

Regards

David Laufer
Lane Cove NSW Australia


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Austria-Czech Support of Czech Archives Digitization #austria-czech

susanbuyer@...
 

I was at the Austria Czech meeting in DC where a substantial group of
members discussed the proposal and=A0 voted unanimously to approve it.
I can't think of a better use of Austria Czech funds than to support
preservation and access to these important records in the Czech
Archives. Randy has explored this thoroughly with the Archives staff
and there is a plan for working with the various players and
appropriately phasing implementation of the various components of the
project.

My vote is to strongly support the proposal and move ahead to helping
to make these resources available to all.

Susan Buyer
Potomac, MD


Iron Cross recipient #germany

Helen Levy
 

arl (Karl) LEVI, born 1872 in Freudental, the son of David LEVI and
Mathilde WEIL, was an officer in the German army. Family rumor is that
he received the Iron Cross? How can I research that he did?

Helen Levy, picomilano@gmail.com (Please note my new email address)


German SIG #Germany Iron Cross recipient #germany

Helen Levy
 

arl (Karl) LEVI, born 1872 in Freudental, the son of David LEVI and
Mathilde WEIL, was an officer in the German army. Family rumor is that
he received the Iron Cross? How can I research that he did?

Helen Levy, picomilano@gmail.com (Please note my new email address)


Woman born 1881 studying medicine? MIZRACH / BROCHIS #romania

Dana Dimitriu
 

Dear all,

I have a question regarding the possibilities a woman had of studying medicine at
the beginning of the 20th century. The person in question is Olga MIZRACH, my
great-grandfather's only sister.

Olga MIZRACH was born 1881 in Ataki (currently Otaci, Moldova) , a small village
on the banks of the Dniestr river, to Meir and Dvora MIZRACH.
I know that she was a doctor and that she lived in Italy before the outbreak of
WWII with her husband, Enrico BROCHIS.
In November 1941, both were interned in a camp in southern Italy, where Enrico
died in 1942.
Olga survived and was moved to a transit camp in Bari in March 1944. Family
legend has it that Olga was living in France after WWII, but I have been unable
to find anything about her in France so far.
from what I was able to find out so far, Enrico was born in Warszawa, Poland and
they had been living in Milano since 1925, and Enrico's father was named
Nahuma / Nachum.

My question is: where could Olga have studied medicine? is there any possibility
to find out which universities would have accepted Jewish women in the interval
1900 - 1914? Were there any special regulations regarding women students? what
qualifications would she have been required to demonstrate? are there any
information sources that could help me track Olga's studies?

There is no place with a university near enough to Ataki; I guess the closest at
approx. 180 km distance would have been Czernowitz (currently Chernivtsi in
Ukraine) - but the university seemed not to have a medical faculty at the time?
Lemberg (L'viv, Ukraine) would have been approx. 450 km away, Krakau (Krakow,
Poland) 800. Vienna over 1000 ... huge distances.

In trying to find more information about the BROCHIS family, I found a
Dr. Edwarda Estera BROCHIS in Warsaw, born 1881, doctor of dermatology and
venerology, who graduated in 1914. I have a strong feeling that this might be the
sister of Enrico, and being born in the same year as Olga MIZRACH, I am assuming
that they might have studied together and perhaps this is how Olga and Enrico met
in the first place. Should this speculation be true, perhaps both went to the
university in Warsaw - which would have been approx. 800 km >from Ataki ... is it
reasonable to assume Olga would have gone so far to study? what possibilities
would a woman student like her have had to earn a living? I do not know if the
family could have afforded to keep her through her studies - I think they lived
rather modestly ...

Thank you in advance for any ideas or hints you might be able to offer. In case
anyone recognizes any of the names mentioned, I would be thrilled to hear >from
you!

Kind regards,

Dana Dimitriu

Wiesbaden, DE
Email dana.dimitriu@web.de
Fax +49-3212-3262367
--
Researching: BRECHMAN, BOLCHOVER, FISCHMAN(N), HALPERN, MIZRACH, NEUMAN(N),
RABINOVICI, SCHERZ, TAMLER
in: Ataki, Gan Yavne, Husiatyn, Kopyczynce, Kozmin, New York, Prague, Putila,
Rhode Island, Salvador de Bahia, Sereth, Tel-Aviv/Jaffa, Vienna, Zastavna
--


Romania SIG #Romania Woman born 1881 studying medicine? MIZRACH / BROCHIS #romania

Dana Dimitriu
 

Dear all,

I have a question regarding the possibilities a woman had of studying medicine at
the beginning of the 20th century. The person in question is Olga MIZRACH, my
great-grandfather's only sister.

Olga MIZRACH was born 1881 in Ataki (currently Otaci, Moldova) , a small village
on the banks of the Dniestr river, to Meir and Dvora MIZRACH.
I know that she was a doctor and that she lived in Italy before the outbreak of
WWII with her husband, Enrico BROCHIS.
In November 1941, both were interned in a camp in southern Italy, where Enrico
died in 1942.
Olga survived and was moved to a transit camp in Bari in March 1944. Family
legend has it that Olga was living in France after WWII, but I have been unable
to find anything about her in France so far.
from what I was able to find out so far, Enrico was born in Warszawa, Poland and
they had been living in Milano since 1925, and Enrico's father was named
Nahuma / Nachum.

My question is: where could Olga have studied medicine? is there any possibility
to find out which universities would have accepted Jewish women in the interval
1900 - 1914? Were there any special regulations regarding women students? what
qualifications would she have been required to demonstrate? are there any
information sources that could help me track Olga's studies?

There is no place with a university near enough to Ataki; I guess the closest at
approx. 180 km distance would have been Czernowitz (currently Chernivtsi in
Ukraine) - but the university seemed not to have a medical faculty at the time?
Lemberg (L'viv, Ukraine) would have been approx. 450 km away, Krakau (Krakow,
Poland) 800. Vienna over 1000 ... huge distances.

In trying to find more information about the BROCHIS family, I found a
Dr. Edwarda Estera BROCHIS in Warsaw, born 1881, doctor of dermatology and
venerology, who graduated in 1914. I have a strong feeling that this might be the
sister of Enrico, and being born in the same year as Olga MIZRACH, I am assuming
that they might have studied together and perhaps this is how Olga and Enrico met
in the first place. Should this speculation be true, perhaps both went to the
university in Warsaw - which would have been approx. 800 km >from Ataki ... is it
reasonable to assume Olga would have gone so far to study? what possibilities
would a woman student like her have had to earn a living? I do not know if the
family could have afforded to keep her through her studies - I think they lived
rather modestly ...

Thank you in advance for any ideas or hints you might be able to offer. In case
anyone recognizes any of the names mentioned, I would be thrilled to hear >from
you!

Kind regards,

Dana Dimitriu

Wiesbaden, DE
Email dana.dimitriu@web.de
Fax +49-3212-3262367
--
Researching: BRECHMAN, BOLCHOVER, FISCHMAN(N), HALPERN, MIZRACH, NEUMAN(N),
RABINOVICI, SCHERZ, TAMLER
in: Ataki, Gan Yavne, Husiatyn, Kopyczynce, Kozmin, New York, Prague, Putila,
Rhode Island, Salvador de Bahia, Sereth, Tel-Aviv/Jaffa, Vienna, Zastavna
--


Help finding relatives in Toronto, Canda, originally from Bucovina #romania

Dana Dimitriu
 

Dear all,

I am trying to find relatives / their descendants in Toronto, Canada and hope
someone will be so kind to help me. Or - even better - perhaps someone out there
knows them!

The people in question are two sisters and the daughter of one of them, all of
them >from Bucovina, Unter-Stanesti / Stanestii de Jos (not sure), who survived
the Holocaust in Transnistria in a place called Jedinetz. After the end of the
war I am assuming that they went to Romania first, then to Israel, and >from there
to Canada.

1. Berta born DERMER, who was married TAMLER before WWII

On the Page of Testimony which Berta filled in for her mother-in-law Sali TAMLER
and also on other POTs she submitted, she signed her name as Berta DERMER.
The date of the POTs was October 1956 - so she must have arrived in Israel before
1956 and moved >from there to Canada later.

[ The reason I am almost 100% sure that Berta had immigrated to Israel is that
during that period people >from the Eastern Block were not allowed to travel, so in
my eyes I can exlude the possibility of the POTs being submitted during a visit to
Israel. ]

Berta's husband, Victor TAMLER, born ca. 1912, was killed in 1942 and as far as I
know, the couple had no children.

Judging by Victor's birth year, I am assuming Berta to have been born in the
interval 1910 - 1920.
I do not know if Berta remarried after 1956.

2. Clara born DERMER, who was married TAMLER before WWII; apparently remarried
after WWII to Walter ENGEL

Clara (sister of Berta), was married to Samuel (Sami) TAMLER (brother of Victor).
Sami was born 1914 so I am assuming Clara to have been born 1910 - 1920.
The couple had a daughter, called Anita (see further down).
Clara did not submit any POTs at Yad Vashem so I do not know if she ever
immigrated to Israel or perhaps took another route to Canada.

3. Anita / Hanny TAMLER

Anita was born shortly before WWII - around 1937-1938. She survived Transnistria
together with her mother Clara and aunt Berta.
from what I know, she was married MARKS - no further details here. I think she
had at least one son (?).

I know all three ladies were living in Toronto because they had been corresponding
irregularly with my great-aunt Edith (Medi) TAMLER, who passed away last year in
Tel Aviv.

A certain Pinkhas DERMER submitted a bunch of POTs at Yad Vashem on the same date
as Berta so I am supposing he was closely related to her - perhaps a brother? or
father? On ancestry.com there is a record of arrival in April 1957 in New York
for Pinchas and Berta DERMER, both identified with an Israeli passport. I have no
other information but perhaps it rings a bell with someone.

While Clara and Berta might have passed away, Anita / Hanny would be in her 70s
and I am hoping she still lives. Victor and Sami TAMLER were first cousins of my
maternal grandfather. We know very little about what happened to this branch of
the family and I am trying to find out as much as I can.

I have tried to find online directories of Jewish cemeteries in Toronto but so
far was unsuccesful. I would be grateful for any assistance you might be able to
offer to help me make contact - thank you in advance!

Kind regards,

Dana Dimitriu

Wiesbaden, DE
Email dana.dimitriu@web.de
Fax +49-3212-3262367
--
Researching: BRECHMAN, BOLCHOVER, FISCHMAN(N), HALPERN, MIZRACH, NEUMAN(N),
RABINOVICI, SCHERZ, TAMLER
in: Ataki, Gan Yavne, Husiatyn, Kopyczynce, Kozmin, New York, Prague, Putila,
Rhode Island, Salvador de Bahia, Sereth, Tel-Aviv/Jaffa, Vienna, Zastavna
--


Romania SIG #Romania Help finding relatives in Toronto, Canda, originally from Bucovina #romania

Dana Dimitriu
 

Dear all,

I am trying to find relatives / their descendants in Toronto, Canada and hope
someone will be so kind to help me. Or - even better - perhaps someone out there
knows them!

The people in question are two sisters and the daughter of one of them, all of
them >from Bucovina, Unter-Stanesti / Stanestii de Jos (not sure), who survived
the Holocaust in Transnistria in a place called Jedinetz. After the end of the
war I am assuming that they went to Romania first, then to Israel, and >from there
to Canada.

1. Berta born DERMER, who was married TAMLER before WWII

On the Page of Testimony which Berta filled in for her mother-in-law Sali TAMLER
and also on other POTs she submitted, she signed her name as Berta DERMER.
The date of the POTs was October 1956 - so she must have arrived in Israel before
1956 and moved >from there to Canada later.

[ The reason I am almost 100% sure that Berta had immigrated to Israel is that
during that period people >from the Eastern Block were not allowed to travel, so in
my eyes I can exlude the possibility of the POTs being submitted during a visit to
Israel. ]

Berta's husband, Victor TAMLER, born ca. 1912, was killed in 1942 and as far as I
know, the couple had no children.

Judging by Victor's birth year, I am assuming Berta to have been born in the
interval 1910 - 1920.
I do not know if Berta remarried after 1956.

2. Clara born DERMER, who was married TAMLER before WWII; apparently remarried
after WWII to Walter ENGEL

Clara (sister of Berta), was married to Samuel (Sami) TAMLER (brother of Victor).
Sami was born 1914 so I am assuming Clara to have been born 1910 - 1920.
The couple had a daughter, called Anita (see further down).
Clara did not submit any POTs at Yad Vashem so I do not know if she ever
immigrated to Israel or perhaps took another route to Canada.

3. Anita / Hanny TAMLER

Anita was born shortly before WWII - around 1937-1938. She survived Transnistria
together with her mother Clara and aunt Berta.
from what I know, she was married MARKS - no further details here. I think she
had at least one son (?).

I know all three ladies were living in Toronto because they had been corresponding
irregularly with my great-aunt Edith (Medi) TAMLER, who passed away last year in
Tel Aviv.

A certain Pinkhas DERMER submitted a bunch of POTs at Yad Vashem on the same date
as Berta so I am supposing he was closely related to her - perhaps a brother? or
father? On ancestry.com there is a record of arrival in April 1957 in New York
for Pinchas and Berta DERMER, both identified with an Israeli passport. I have no
other information but perhaps it rings a bell with someone.

While Clara and Berta might have passed away, Anita / Hanny would be in her 70s
and I am hoping she still lives. Victor and Sami TAMLER were first cousins of my
maternal grandfather. We know very little about what happened to this branch of
the family and I am trying to find out as much as I can.

I have tried to find online directories of Jewish cemeteries in Toronto but so
far was unsuccesful. I would be grateful for any assistance you might be able to
offer to help me make contact - thank you in advance!

Kind regards,

Dana Dimitriu

Wiesbaden, DE
Email dana.dimitriu@web.de
Fax +49-3212-3262367
--
Researching: BRECHMAN, BOLCHOVER, FISCHMAN(N), HALPERN, MIZRACH, NEUMAN(N),
RABINOVICI, SCHERZ, TAMLER
in: Ataki, Gan Yavne, Husiatyn, Kopyczynce, Kozmin, New York, Prague, Putila,
Rhode Island, Salvador de Bahia, Sereth, Tel-Aviv/Jaffa, Vienna, Zastavna
--


Zulice and Bialy Kamien #galicia

Michael Waas
 

Hi,

I propose an interesting research question that maybe
someone can answer. I have noticed in the past that for
Bialy Kamien and its surrounding towns, there is a rather
large influx of Jews with origins in Zulice, near Lublin in
Poland.

Does anyone know what connections Lublin had with
the area surrounding Bialy Kamien? This is of particular
interest to me and my cousins as two families we are
researching the PARNES family and the TENNEN family
have members in Bialy Kamien who come out of Zulice
(and they are not isolated either, there is over 50
records indicating this with many different family units).
I know Lublin has an important place in the rabbinic
world of Eastern Europe.

The research question is in two parts: 1) What was the
connection between Lublin and Tarnopol, specifically Bialy
Kamien, Zloczow, and Sasow? and 2) What led to such an
obviously significant movement >from Zulice near Lublin to
Tarnopol, presumably sometime between 1850 and 1880?

I have sent this question to Gesher Galicia, JewishGen
Discussion Group, and RavSIG.

Please reply privately.

Best Regards,

Michael Waas
Sarasota, FL

Researching: PARNES, KATZ, PFEFFER, BRIEF, TENNEN, LAMM
(Tarnopol, Galicia)


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Zulice and Bialy Kamien #galicia

Michael Waas
 

Hi,

I propose an interesting research question that maybe
someone can answer. I have noticed in the past that for
Bialy Kamien and its surrounding towns, there is a rather
large influx of Jews with origins in Zulice, near Lublin in
Poland.

Does anyone know what connections Lublin had with
the area surrounding Bialy Kamien? This is of particular
interest to me and my cousins as two families we are
researching the PARNES family and the TENNEN family
have members in Bialy Kamien who come out of Zulice
(and they are not isolated either, there is over 50
records indicating this with many different family units).
I know Lublin has an important place in the rabbinic
world of Eastern Europe.

The research question is in two parts: 1) What was the
connection between Lublin and Tarnopol, specifically Bialy
Kamien, Zloczow, and Sasow? and 2) What led to such an
obviously significant movement >from Zulice near Lublin to
Tarnopol, presumably sometime between 1850 and 1880?

I have sent this question to Gesher Galicia, JewishGen
Discussion Group, and RavSIG.

Please reply privately.

Best Regards,

Michael Waas
Sarasota, FL

Researching: PARNES, KATZ, PFEFFER, BRIEF, TENNEN, LAMM
(Tarnopol, Galicia)


Re: latamsig digest: August 30, 2011 #latinamerica

elb@...
 

Dear Mr Kupchik;
In the Buenos Aires police archive there are only "Cedulas of Identidad"=20
from people who lived at Buenos Aires. My ancestors also arrived to=20
Argentina through the Buenos Aires port and after a week at Immigrants=20
Hotel, they were carried out to Entre Rios (to Basavilbaso, one colony=20
of Baron Hirsch), and I've verified that there don't exist any document=20
of them at Buenos Aires police archive.
You ought to look for the Cedula of Identidad getting in contact with=20
Entre R=EDos police. But, alas, it's a very hard task because they are=20
very bureaucratic people and I don't think you would be able to get=20
anything by mail. I think you or some other person must get there in the=20
flesh to sign up forms in order to do a search in the archive.
Nevertheless, here I send to you mail, address and phone/fax of Entre=20
Rios Police Headquarters and some local police stations
Entre Rios Police Headquarters:
Email: policia@entrerios.gov.ar
Address: Cordoba street N=B0 351 (Zip Code E3100), Parana, Entre Rios
Phone/fax: +541 343 4209000 until 4209013

Basavilbaso Police Station:
Address: Alem st and 25 de Mayo st (without number)
Phone: +541 3445 481017

Concepcion del Uruguay Police Station:
Address: J.M. Diaz Velez 644
Phone: +541 3442 440048

Villa Mantero Police Station:
Address: Centenario st without number
Phone: +541 3445 494007

I don't know to which colony your ancestors were sent (There were ten=20
colonies of Baron Hirsch's Jewish Colonization Association in Entre Rios:
Santa Isabel, San Antonio, Lucienville, Lopez y Berro, Clara, Louis=20
Oungre, Leonard Cohen, Palmar-Yatay, Avigdor and Curcubelo-Walter Moss)

Regards
Eduardo Balbachan
Buenos Aires, Argentina

Researching: BALBACHAN, BOLBOCHAN, BOLBACHAN (Beltsy and Kishinev,=20
Bessarabia)


El 31/08/2011 03:05 a.m., Latin America SIG digest escribi=F3:
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Subject: Cedula de Identidad in Argentina
From: yonikupchik@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:26:35 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

Dear Genners,

I was thinkning about trying to retrieve my ancestors' "Cedula de
Identidad" (>from Argentina), which might include the place of birtih.
I know that these documents were issued by the police, but I do not
know if they have an archive and if they provide such service. Did
anyone ever try to get an ancestor's Cedula de Identidad in Argentina?

Also, if my ancestor lived in Entre Rios (in one of the colonies of
the Baron Hirsch) but arrived to Argentina through the Buenos Aires
port, should I look for the Cedula of Identidad in the Buenos Aires
archive or in the Entre Rios Archive of the local Policia Provincial?

Thank you for your help,

Yoni Kupchik
Charleston, SC, USA

Moderator Note: You should review the Jewish Museum in Entre Rios http=
://www.museojudioer.org.ar/


Researching (all of the families also in Argentina and other
south-american countries): KUPCHIK - Orgeyev, Bessarabia; OKS -
Sudilkov, Kulchiny, Shepetovka, Odessa (Ukraine); GORODETZKY -
Teleneshty, Bessarabia; SITNITZKY - Poltava, Stepantsy, Voznesensk(?)
(Ukraine); DORIN - Odessa (Ukraine); SHKODNIK - Odessa, Gayvoron
(Ukraine); KOSOY - Dobroye, Nikolayev (Ukraine); GLUSMAN - Krivoye
Ozero, Odessa (Ukraine); SHABADASH - Kharkov (Ukraine); KAZATSKER -
Ukraine.



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Dear Mr Kupchik;
In the Buenos Aires police archive there are only "Cedulas of Identidad"=20
from people who lived at Buenos Aires. My ancestors also arrived to=20
Argentina through the Buenos Aires port and after a week at Immigrants=20
Hotel, they were carried out to Entre Rios (to Basavilbaso, one colony=20
of Baron Hirsch), and I've verified that there don't exist any document=20
of them at Buenos Aires police archive.
You ought to look for the Cedula of Identidad getting in contact with=20
Entre R=EDos police. But, alas, it's a very hard task because they are=20
very bureaucratic people and I don't think you would be able to get=20
anything by mail. I think you or some other person must get there in the=20
flesh to sign up forms in order to do a search in the archive.
Nevertheless, here I send to you mail, address and phone/fax of Entre=20
Rios Police Headquarters and some local police stations
Entre Rios Police Headquarters:
Email: policia@entrerios.gov.ar
Address: Cordoba street N=B0 351 (Zip Code E3100), Parana, Entre Rios
Phone/fax: +541 343 4209000 until 4209013

Basavilbaso Police Station:
Address: Alem st and 25 de Mayo st (without number)
Phone: +541 3445 481017

Concepcion del Uruguay Police Station:
Address: J.M. Diaz Velez 644
Phone: +541 3442 440048

Villa Mantero Police Station:
Address: Centenario st without number
Phone: +541 3445 494007

I don't know to which colony your ancestors were sent (There were ten=20
colonies of Baron Hirsch's Jewish Colonization Association in Entre Rios:
Santa Isabel, San Antonio, Lucienville, Lopez y Berro, Clara, Louis=20
Oungre, Leonard Cohen, Palmar-Yatay, Avigdor and Curcubelo-Walter Moss)

Regards
Eduardo Balbachan
Buenos Aires, Argentina

Researching: BALBACHAN, BOLBOCHAN, BOLBACHAN (Beltsy and Kishinev,=20
Bessarabia)


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Subject: Cedula de Identidad in Argentina
From: yonikupchik@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:26:35 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

Dear Genners,

I was thinkning about trying to retrieve my ancestors' "Cedula de
Identidad" (>from Argentina), which might include the place of birtih.
I know that these documents were issued by the police, but I do not
know if they have an archive and if they provide such service. Did
anyone ever try to get an ancestor's Cedula de Identidad in Argentina?

Also, if my ancestor lived in Entre Rios (in one of the colonies of
the Baron Hirsch) but arrived to Argentina through the Buenos Aires
port, should I look for the Cedula of Identidad in the Buenos Aires
archive or in the Entre Rios Archive of the local Policia Provincial?

Thank you for your help,

Yoni Kupchik
Charleston, SC, USA

Moderator Note: You should review the Jewish Museum in Entre Rios http=
://www.museojudioer.org.ar/


Researching (all of the families also in Argentina and other
south-american countries): KUPCHIK - Orgeyev, Bessarabia; OKS -
Sudilkov, Kulchiny, Shepetovka, Odessa (Ukraine); GORODETZKY -
Teleneshty, Bessarabia; SITNITZKY - Poltava, Stepantsy, Voznesensk(?)
(Ukraine); DORIN - Odessa (Ukraine); SHKODNIK - Odessa, Gayvoron
(Ukraine); KOSOY - Dobroye, Nikolayev (Ukraine); GLUSMAN - Krivoye
Ozero, Odessa (Ukraine); SHABADASH - Kharkov (Ukraine); KAZATSKER -
Ukraine.



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