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Reverse immigration #lithuania

Judith Singer
 

Thank you everyone for your helpful responses. Oddly, I just read
again yesterday that the proportion of Jewish immigrants who returned
to Russia was "almost zero" - and now I have realized, with your help,
that that might have been true, but the key word here is "Russia".
Before World War I, of course, Lithuania was part of the Russian
Empire, but after the war, it was an independent country. Its new
constitution guaranteed full rights to the Jews and although that was
not always the practice, at least the oppressive laws of the Russian
Empire no longer existed. The Jew could once again regard Lithuania as
their homeland and apparently many did return. The situation
gradually deteriorated and there was another significant wave of
emigration in the 1930s.

One of the people who wrote to me directly and not to litvaksig was
aware of Jews who traveled to the U.S. under false passports and
raised the question of whether these immigrants disclosed their actual
identity in their naturalization papers. I can tell you that in my
family, this was not the case. Five sons and a daughter of my
great-grandfather immigrated here around the turn of the last century,
most of them legally, but the one who had to use someone else's
passport retained the very different name on the passport for the rest
of his long life

Judith Singer
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Reverse immigration #lithuania

Judith Singer
 

Thank you everyone for your helpful responses. Oddly, I just read
again yesterday that the proportion of Jewish immigrants who returned
to Russia was "almost zero" - and now I have realized, with your help,
that that might have been true, but the key word here is "Russia".
Before World War I, of course, Lithuania was part of the Russian
Empire, but after the war, it was an independent country. Its new
constitution guaranteed full rights to the Jews and although that was
not always the practice, at least the oppressive laws of the Russian
Empire no longer existed. The Jew could once again regard Lithuania as
their homeland and apparently many did return. The situation
gradually deteriorated and there was another significant wave of
emigration in the 1930s.

One of the people who wrote to me directly and not to litvaksig was
aware of Jews who traveled to the U.S. under false passports and
raised the question of whether these immigrants disclosed their actual
identity in their naturalization papers. I can tell you that in my
family, this was not the case. Five sons and a daughter of my
great-grandfather immigrated here around the turn of the last century,
most of them legally, but the one who had to use someone else's
passport retained the very different name on the passport for the rest
of his long life

Judith Singer
Tekovo/Tekehaza #subcarpathia

Beth Long
 

If you have ancestors >from Tekovo/Tekehaza, I would be interested
in hearing >from you to compare notes.

Beth Long
Salt Lake City
Subcarpathia SIG #Subcarpathia Tekovo/Tekehaza #subcarpathia

Beth Long
 

If you have ancestors >from Tekovo/Tekehaza, I would be interested
in hearing >from you to compare notes.

Beth Long
Salt Lake City
More about Hotel Bristol #austria-czech

danielat1@...
 

My cousin has written to me saying Max Brod married at the Hotel Bristol in
Dlouha in Praha in 1913. He also says that Franz Kafka was there at the
wedding. His source is a book he read but I don't have the title yet.
Daniela Torsh
Sydney, Australia
Schussheim #austria-czech

Elaine Rosenberg
 

I would like to know where is the records of Jew who lived in
Bratslavia before the war?

MODERATOR NOTE:
Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech More about Hotel Bristol #austria-czech

danielat1@...
 

My cousin has written to me saying Max Brod married at the Hotel Bristol in
Dlouha in Praha in 1913. He also says that Franz Kafka was there at the
wedding. His source is a book he read but I don't have the title yet.
Daniela Torsh
Sydney, Australia
Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Schussheim #austria-czech

Elaine Rosenberg
 

I would like to know where is the records of Jew who lived in
Bratslavia before the war?

MODERATOR NOTE:
ViewMate Translation Request - German. For Chany Hass birth Record #galicia

Alan Seid
 

Hi,

I would really appreciate a word for word German to English translation
for the highlighted row. The image is a birth record for Chany Hass
born 20 Mar 1892 in Nadworna.

I've posted the image on ViewMate at the following address
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33805
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

I can read the following:
Column 6: Father's name is Leib Hafs. Place name Nadworna.
Column 7: Mother's name is Scheindel Kriege. Mother's parents names
are Meier Josef & Chany Kriegel. Place name Bohorodczany.

I also have a question. It looks like Leib Hass's name is spelled Hafs.
Anyone know why that is?

Thank you

Alan Seid
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia ViewMate Translation Request - German. For Chany Hass birth Record #galicia

Alan Seid
 

Hi,

I would really appreciate a word for word German to English translation
for the highlighted row. The image is a birth record for Chany Hass
born 20 Mar 1892 in Nadworna.

I've posted the image on ViewMate at the following address
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33805
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

I can read the following:
Column 6: Father's name is Leib Hafs. Place name Nadworna.
Column 7: Mother's name is Scheindel Kriege. Mother's parents names
are Meier Josef & Chany Kriegel. Place name Bohorodczany.

I also have a question. It looks like Leib Hass's name is spelled Hafs.
Anyone know why that is?

Thank you

Alan Seid
Jewish cemteries in Dorohoi and Bucecea, Romania #general

Nachmi Drimer <ndreamer@...>
 

Shalom
This summer, I intend to visit the graves of my forefathers in Dorohoi and
Bucecea, Romania.
Can I just enter the cemeteries, do I nead keys and if so who has them and
how I contact that person?

Nachmi Drimer
Israel
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish cemteries in Dorohoi and Bucecea, Romania #general

Nachmi Drimer <ndreamer@...>
 

Shalom
This summer, I intend to visit the graves of my forefathers in Dorohoi and
Bucecea, Romania.
Can I just enter the cemeteries, do I nead keys and if so who has them and
how I contact that person?

Nachmi Drimer
Israel
INTRO - researching FREUND, RING, LIPPER, KLAPPER family from Remscheid, extended family ZAUDERER, BECKER, LAZER, WIESELMANN #germany

naomi rosenthal <naomiro999@...>
 

Hello GerSig,

I just joined the group. My JewishGen ID # is 596214.
My parents were German Jews who fled to Palestine in the 1930s.
I was born there, but my family moved to the US in the 1950s.
My father had records of his family, ROSENTHAL, >from Bad Nauheim,
for many generations.

I have been researching my mother's family. She had a large extended
family in Remscheid, who had all emigrated >from Galicia. Their names
are in the subject line. My mother's father was >from Pruchnik and her
mother >from Bohorodchany. Dozens of the extended family were deported
and perished in the Holocaust. I have been trying to determine details
of their fates, such as dates and places of deportation, for a family
history I am writing, but find that the two databases I have been
using, the Remscheid Stolpersteine and the Bundesarchiv Gedenkbuch,
sometimes contradict each other and family records.

I wonder if others have similar problems, and which is the most
accurate Holocaust database.

Also, I have recently self-published two historical non-fiction
books which I think might interest people in this group.
One book, Searching for Hugo, is a suspenseful WWI story about my
paternal grandfather, Hugo ROSENTHAL, a German soldier fighting on the
Eastern Front who was captured by the Russians. Hugo's family and
friends wrote hundreds of letters trying to locate him and arrange
for his release. Images of the letters, with their German
transcriptions and English translations, are included, and show how
people in Germany dealt with the war as it encroached onto their lives.

The other book, Lina's Love: Postcards and Poems >from Hugo, is a color
picture book containing hundreds of postcards and poems which my
grandfather Hugo wrote to my future grandmother Lina between 1898 and
1907 >from Hamburg, Frankfurt, and other places in Germany. The beautiful
postcards contain many references to Jewish life in Germany. The book
includes the original German as well as my English translations.
Both books can be viewed at amazon.com, amazon.de and other European
countries. Thanks,

Naomi M Rosenthal, Berkeley, Calif. <naomiro999@yahoo.com>

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to GerSIg. Thank you for your INTRO message.
JewishGen permits one time mention of commercial items including books.
German SIG #Germany INTRO - researching FREUND, RING, LIPPER, KLAPPER family from Remscheid, extended family ZAUDERER, BECKER, LAZER, WIESELMANN #germany

naomi rosenthal <naomiro999@...>
 

Hello GerSig,

I just joined the group. My JewishGen ID # is 596214.
My parents were German Jews who fled to Palestine in the 1930s.
I was born there, but my family moved to the US in the 1950s.
My father had records of his family, ROSENTHAL, >from Bad Nauheim,
for many generations.

I have been researching my mother's family. She had a large extended
family in Remscheid, who had all emigrated >from Galicia. Their names
are in the subject line. My mother's father was >from Pruchnik and her
mother >from Bohorodchany. Dozens of the extended family were deported
and perished in the Holocaust. I have been trying to determine details
of their fates, such as dates and places of deportation, for a family
history I am writing, but find that the two databases I have been
using, the Remscheid Stolpersteine and the Bundesarchiv Gedenkbuch,
sometimes contradict each other and family records.

I wonder if others have similar problems, and which is the most
accurate Holocaust database.

Also, I have recently self-published two historical non-fiction
books which I think might interest people in this group.
One book, Searching for Hugo, is a suspenseful WWI story about my
paternal grandfather, Hugo ROSENTHAL, a German soldier fighting on the
Eastern Front who was captured by the Russians. Hugo's family and
friends wrote hundreds of letters trying to locate him and arrange
for his release. Images of the letters, with their German
transcriptions and English translations, are included, and show how
people in Germany dealt with the war as it encroached onto their lives.

The other book, Lina's Love: Postcards and Poems >from Hugo, is a color
picture book containing hundreds of postcards and poems which my
grandfather Hugo wrote to my future grandmother Lina between 1898 and
1907 >from Hamburg, Frankfurt, and other places in Germany. The beautiful
postcards contain many references to Jewish life in Germany. The book
includes the original German as well as my English translations.
Both books can be viewed at amazon.com, amazon.de and other European
countries. Thanks,

Naomi M Rosenthal, Berkeley, Calif. <naomiro999@yahoo.com>

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to GerSIg. Thank you for your INTRO message.
JewishGen permits one time mention of commercial items including books.
Dubossary projects #ukraine

Yefim Kogan
 

To Bessarabian and Ukrainian researchers:

There are two major projects on a way for a town of Dubossary, before 1917
was in Kherson Gubernia of Russian Empire and now is part of Republic of
Moldova, Transnistria self-proclaimed territory. This and several other
towns in Transnistria are served by both Bessarabia SIG and Ukraine SIG.

I have completed Dubossary KehillaLinks website and soon it will be
available for everybody.
Second, we are starting Dubossary Cemetery project. I have already received
an index (in Russian) and about 250 photos >from new part of the cemetery.
The photos >from the old part will follow (1,500+). The old part has burials
from middle of 19 century or before.
In order to do this Cemetery project, we need a Project Leader, who will
work with translators and coordinate the project. If anyone is interested,
please come forward.

We also will need your donations to pay for the photographs. Please donate
$25, $50, $100 or more to Bessarabia-Moldova Cemetery Project. Go to
JewishGen.org / Donate / Bessarabia-Moldova Cemetery Project.

Thank you all,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Dubossary projects #ukraine

Yefim Kogan
 

To Bessarabian and Ukrainian researchers:

There are two major projects on a way for a town of Dubossary, before 1917
was in Kherson Gubernia of Russian Empire and now is part of Republic of
Moldova, Transnistria self-proclaimed territory. This and several other
towns in Transnistria are served by both Bessarabia SIG and Ukraine SIG.

I have completed Dubossary KehillaLinks website and soon it will be
available for everybody.
Second, we are starting Dubossary Cemetery project. I have already received
an index (in Russian) and about 250 photos >from new part of the cemetery.
The photos >from the old part will follow (1,500+). The old part has burials
from middle of 19 century or before.
In order to do this Cemetery project, we need a Project Leader, who will
work with translators and coordinate the project. If anyone is interested,
please come forward.

We also will need your donations to pay for the photographs. Please donate
$25, $50, $100 or more to Bessarabia-Moldova Cemetery Project. Go to
JewishGen.org / Donate / Bessarabia-Moldova Cemetery Project.

Thank you all,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China
JOWBR and Memorial Plaque Database Updates #germany

Nolan Altman
 

The next update to JewishGen's JOWBR
(http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/) and Memorial Plaque
(http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/) databases will be
done late June in time for the summer IAJGS Conference.

For submission instructions, please see:

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm

for JOWBR. For the Memorial Plaque project see:

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/Submit.htm

If you have any templates / photos to add, please submit them
to me by May 31.

Nolan Altman, NAltman@JewishGen.org
German SIG #Germany JOWBR and Memorial Plaque Database Updates #germany

Nolan Altman
 

The next update to JewishGen's JOWBR
(http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/) and Memorial Plaque
(http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/) databases will be
done late June in time for the summer IAJGS Conference.

For submission instructions, please see:

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm

for JOWBR. For the Memorial Plaque project see:

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/Submit.htm

If you have any templates / photos to add, please submit them
to me by May 31.

Nolan Altman, NAltman@JewishGen.org
Re: Kennkarte Numbers ? #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Am 12.05.2014 Michael Marx lexmhmarx@gmail.com asked:
In the 1939 Census my grandfather was living in a woman's home in
Berlin, an Emmy Schmidt born 17 April 1898, at Kaiser-Friedrich Str.
80-81 in Charlottenberg. I know nothing about her and have been unable
to find out who she was, but her kennkarte No. 32 62 90 is shown on the
census. Is there a way to find information about her >from this number?
Is there any kind of database where the record of these
kennkartes were kept?
Dear Michael,
there was no need for keeping records of issued Kennkarten, because in
addition to the original Kennkarte at least three doubles were filled in
and remained in possession of the authorities, one remained in the
issuing office, one was sent to the birthplace and - in the case of
Jews, whose Kennkarten and doubles had a large Gothic J on the first
page, was sent to the Reichssippenamt (the Reich authority for family
matters). The collection of all these doubles with passport photographs
would have been valuable, had it not disappeared towards the end or
after the end of the war.
In a letter to the Reichskanzlei, dated August 1, 1943, the head of the
Reichssippenamt Dr. Kurt Meyer (suicide on June 8, 1945), informed about
his plans to evacuate the 15 millions of Jewish and mixed-race cards
away >from Berlin to a castle "probably in Moravia". So far the
collection has not surfaced. But more than 6000 doubles have survived,
mainly >from the Mainz/Darmstadt area.
1350 of them are in the "Zentralarchiv zur Erforschung der Geschichte
der Juden in Deutschland" at the University of Heidelberg. 4689 ended up
in the YIVO collection in New York City, among them also 107 >from Berlin
(no Emmy Schmidt!).
As described in the book "Die restlose Erfassung" (Collecting without
restriction), by Goetz Aly and Karl Heinz Roth, Frankfurt/Main: Fischer,
2000, all the doubles were supposed to be the foundation for the planned
"Volksdatei" which was to be the central register of all the Germans
(including all their skills), all entered on punch cards. On page 66 it
is also described that the Kennkarten numbers would have run >from A
00001 to Z 99999, i.e. a letter (usually starting with A), followed by a
five-digit number, only the Berlin numbers had six digits. That fits
with the digits above - only the letter is missing there.

I hope that helps

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany fritz.neubauer@uni-bielefeld.de
German SIG #Germany Re: Kennkarte Numbers ? #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Am 12.05.2014 Michael Marx lexmhmarx@gmail.com asked:
In the 1939 Census my grandfather was living in a woman's home in
Berlin, an Emmy Schmidt born 17 April 1898, at Kaiser-Friedrich Str.
80-81 in Charlottenberg. I know nothing about her and have been unable
to find out who she was, but her kennkarte No. 32 62 90 is shown on the
census. Is there a way to find information about her >from this number?
Is there any kind of database where the record of these
kennkartes were kept?
Dear Michael,
there was no need for keeping records of issued Kennkarten, because in
addition to the original Kennkarte at least three doubles were filled in
and remained in possession of the authorities, one remained in the
issuing office, one was sent to the birthplace and - in the case of
Jews, whose Kennkarten and doubles had a large Gothic J on the first
page, was sent to the Reichssippenamt (the Reich authority for family
matters). The collection of all these doubles with passport photographs
would have been valuable, had it not disappeared towards the end or
after the end of the war.
In a letter to the Reichskanzlei, dated August 1, 1943, the head of the
Reichssippenamt Dr. Kurt Meyer (suicide on June 8, 1945), informed about
his plans to evacuate the 15 millions of Jewish and mixed-race cards
away >from Berlin to a castle "probably in Moravia". So far the
collection has not surfaced. But more than 6000 doubles have survived,
mainly >from the Mainz/Darmstadt area.
1350 of them are in the "Zentralarchiv zur Erforschung der Geschichte
der Juden in Deutschland" at the University of Heidelberg. 4689 ended up
in the YIVO collection in New York City, among them also 107 >from Berlin
(no Emmy Schmidt!).
As described in the book "Die restlose Erfassung" (Collecting without
restriction), by Goetz Aly and Karl Heinz Roth, Frankfurt/Main: Fischer,
2000, all the doubles were supposed to be the foundation for the planned
"Volksdatei" which was to be the central register of all the Germans
(including all their skills), all entered on punch cards. On page 66 it
is also described that the Kennkarten numbers would have run >from A
00001 to Z 99999, i.e. a letter (usually starting with A), followed by a
five-digit number, only the Berlin numbers had six digits. That fits
with the digits above - only the letter is missing there.

I hope that helps

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany fritz.neubauer@uni-bielefeld.de
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