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SHEMARYA/SHEMARIA
#sephardic
Al SHEMARYA <albertorsandy@...>
It's been a long time since I last reached out for help
with my family tree.....My father was Jacob (Yacov) SHEMARYA son of Yehoshua (Joshua) , born in Rhodes. In the past week, I somehow found a record of the grave of Rabbi Yacov Shemaria in Salonica, who passes away 15 Av 5389 (Aug 4, 1629). My grandfather, Yehoshua, son of Yacov, passed away in 1919. I'm not exactly sure what to make of this as there are two Yacov's in the Rhodes cemetary that could be my great grandfather...one passed away in 5660, the other in 5675. Incidentally, I have no way, for sure, of knowing who were the male siblings of my grandfather, Yehoshua. I'd be interested hearing >from other members of the Shemaria/Shemarya families to exchange information. Albert Shemarya Seattle, WA.
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Sephardic SIG #Sephardim SHEMARYA/SHEMARIA
#sephardic
Al SHEMARYA <albertorsandy@...>
It's been a long time since I last reached out for help
with my family tree.....My father was Jacob (Yacov) SHEMARYA son of Yehoshua (Joshua) , born in Rhodes. In the past week, I somehow found a record of the grave of Rabbi Yacov Shemaria in Salonica, who passes away 15 Av 5389 (Aug 4, 1629). My grandfather, Yehoshua, son of Yacov, passed away in 1919. I'm not exactly sure what to make of this as there are two Yacov's in the Rhodes cemetary that could be my great grandfather...one passed away in 5660, the other in 5675. Incidentally, I have no way, for sure, of knowing who were the male siblings of my grandfather, Yehoshua. I'd be interested hearing >from other members of the Shemaria/Shemarya families to exchange information. Albert Shemarya Seattle, WA.
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Arad Hoyzman
Hello,
Can anybody help find records after jewish people born in Danzig around 1900 ? Arad Hoyzman
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Arad Hoyzman
Hello,
Can anybody help find records after jewish people born in Danzig around 1900 ? Arad Hoyzman
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Slobodka; Reverse immigration
#lithuania
water wind & stars <shiralunacy@...>
from Judith Potts - The family came >from Janova and a smaller suburb calledSlabutka. (sic) from Betty Stoop Mas - Six towns named Slobodka now in Lithuania, Belarusand Poland are closer to Jonava but did not have significant Jewish communities. I suggest that Judith Potts include Kovno in her research for two reasons: 1) many Jews lived in Kovno's suburb Slobodka, home of the famed Slobodka Yeshiva; and 2) Kovno and Yanova were linked by a railway line, as mentioned in this article -- www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Lita/lit0089.html -- on the expulsion of the Jews >from Lithuania in 1915: "In accordance with the decree of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army, all Jews living west of the Kovno/Yanova [Kaunas/Janova] railway line must be expelled..." from Judith Singer - [...] the proportion of Jewish immigrants whoreturned to Russia was "almost zero" - and now I have realized, with your help, that that might have been true, but the key word here is "Russia." I think that the time period is also a key factor in estimating the proportion of immigrant Jews who returned to Russia. I remember >from my reading of immigrant accounts that cases of individuals (as opposed to entire families) returning home were not all that rare--except during the years when World War I made such travel impossible. Perhaps it was at that time that the proportion of returns was actually "almost zero." Just a guess. It really is an interesting question, and it's complicated by the fact that some who returned to Russia later left again to go back to America. You have to wonder too about the sources of such statistics. Sonia Kovitz
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Slobodka; Reverse immigration
#lithuania
water wind & stars <shiralunacy@...>
from Judith Potts - The family came >from Janova and a smaller suburb calledSlabutka. (sic) from Betty Stoop Mas - Six towns named Slobodka now in Lithuania, Belarusand Poland are closer to Jonava but did not have significant Jewish communities. I suggest that Judith Potts include Kovno in her research for two reasons: 1) many Jews lived in Kovno's suburb Slobodka, home of the famed Slobodka Yeshiva; and 2) Kovno and Yanova were linked by a railway line, as mentioned in this article -- www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Lita/lit0089.html -- on the expulsion of the Jews >from Lithuania in 1915: "In accordance with the decree of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army, all Jews living west of the Kovno/Yanova [Kaunas/Janova] railway line must be expelled..." from Judith Singer - [...] the proportion of Jewish immigrants whoreturned to Russia was "almost zero" - and now I have realized, with your help, that that might have been true, but the key word here is "Russia." I think that the time period is also a key factor in estimating the proportion of immigrant Jews who returned to Russia. I remember >from my reading of immigrant accounts that cases of individuals (as opposed to entire families) returning home were not all that rare--except during the years when World War I made such travel impossible. Perhaps it was at that time that the proportion of returns was actually "almost zero." Just a guess. It really is an interesting question, and it's complicated by the fact that some who returned to Russia later left again to go back to America. You have to wonder too about the sources of such statistics. Sonia Kovitz
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insesse
#galicia
Ervin Spinner <espinner@...>
In the JRI birth records they list the parent's name, the occupation
and town but frequently they just list the parent's name, "insesse" or "insesser" which in German seems to mean inhabitant of the town. Is there any other meaning? I am specifically looking at Kudrynce in Galicia. I notice this for some marriage records as well. Ervin Spinner
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia insesse
#galicia
Ervin Spinner <espinner@...>
In the JRI birth records they list the parent's name, the occupation
and town but frequently they just list the parent's name, "insesse" or "insesser" which in German seems to mean inhabitant of the town. Is there any other meaning? I am specifically looking at Kudrynce in Galicia. I notice this for some marriage records as well. Ervin Spinner
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34th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy, Salt Lake City, July 27-August 1
#bessarabia
Yefim Kogan
Hi the Bessarabers...
I am delighted to let you know that we have a great program at the Jewish Gen conference this summer and that there are many presentations and events related to our Bessarabia region. Please remember that Early registration at the conference will end in 10 days, on 5/31! Here are Bessarabian/Moldovan related events: Sunday, July 27 SHARE Fair. Bessarabia Sig will participate. You will see new terrific historical maps, ask questions, meet other fellow Bessarabians. Monday, July 28 Jewish Life in Bessarabia as it is Reflected in Bessarabian Newspapers, 1850-1930 Alla Chastina, Kishinev, Republic of Moldova Published in Russian, Romanian and Yiddish, the newspapers present all too often overlooked by genealogist's source of information of all the aspects of Jewish everyday life throughout the region. Virtually every page has data related to Bessarabian Jews. Bessarabian Provincial Gazette of 1884 published a list of Chisinau Jews subjected to conscription... Chisinau Voice in 1916 wrote about Jewish touring troupe ran by N. Spivakovsky performing in the famous Gorishteyn theater... Bessarabian Word wrote about singer Anna Gelber, actor Misha Fishzon, lecturer Davidzon performing in Ismail. About Joint allocating $13,000 to the needs of Jewish hospitals in Bessarabia... With Jewish merchants and pharmacists, rabbis and jewelers, cultural and financial institutions, charitable foundations and hospitals - the newspapers are "time capsules" containing vast information of the once thriving and now all but extinct Jewish life in the historic Bessarabia. Tuesday, July 29 Bessarabian SIG Board Meeting. Everybody is welcome to attend, bring ideas, suggestions, become involved in projects, start new projects. Bessarabia SIG Meeting The meeting is open to anyone with roots or interest in the region historically known as Bessarabia, an area now comprising the Moldova Republic and parts of Ukraine. At the end of the 19th century and before the War, Bessarabia had significant Jewish presence. The Bessarabia SIG was organized at the end of 2011 to help people in their Bessarabian genealogical research. This meeting will focus on our FUTURE plans, new projects, getting new records. Wednesday, July 30 Jewish Cemeteries in Bessarabia and Moldova: History, Current state, Indexing, Photographing Yefim Kogan Recently I found that the most urgent research in Jewish Genealogy in Bessarabia is investigating, indexing and photographing grave inscriptions at the CEMETERIES! The reason is not only that the cemeteries deteriorating, but a grave in an existing cemetery, if not paid for, can be removed, and another placed instead! There are about 60-70 Jewish cemeteries currently in Bessarabia/Moldova. Detailed information on most of them will be presented from old maps, Russian/Moldovan websites, photos and more. Registry and somephotographs >from 15 of them are part of JOWBR now. There are also a number of already disappeared cemeteries >from which we may know their location from an old map or even find piece of broken gravestone. What Jewish communities in Bessarabia/Moldova are doing for Jewish Cemeteries? You will hear what Bessarabia SIG is working on and planning for new future to preserve the names of Jewish people buried in Bessarabia/Moldova. Ask the Experts: A Panel on the Geography, History, and Culture of Bessarabia / Moldova Yefim Kogan - moderator There are many complex questions of geography and history a genealogist, whether a beginner or an expert, may encounter in the search for family records. In this panel you will get help >from a knowledgeable group of experts who have lived, traveled, and conducted research in the Bessarabia/Moldova region. You will learn what is new at Moldovan Archives; what Internet sources for genealogical research in Bessarabia exist throughout the world and how to access them; and much, much more. Moderator: Yefim Kogan. Panelists: Alla Chastina (Kishinev, Moldova); Alex Denisenko (Lviv, Ukraine); Ala Gamulka (Canada); Terry Lasky and Yefim Kogan (USA). Please submit written questions in advance to the moderator (yefimk@...). The panel will choose questions that hold the most interest to the greatest number of researchers. Audience at the session will be invited to ask questions, too. $$$ Bessarabian SIG Luncheon with presentation Bessarabian Jewish Entrepreneurs in 1870 - 1917 by Alla Chastina, Kishinev, Moldova National Archives of the Republic of Moldova holds vast collections of documents related to Jewish entrepreneurs in Bessarabia who owned numerous factories, shops, pharmacies, mills. They built synagogues, opened circuses, skating rinks, theaters, banks and many other businesses. First in Chisinau juice and wine producing company was founded in 1870 by merchant Eleazar Radelet, his father Yoyna Radelet - owned Chisinau distillery. First in Bessarabia steam brewery "Bergshloss" owned by M. Kipervasser. Merchant from Soroca S.Gendler received permission to build a public bath in Ataki in 1891-1892. Ovshy Pagis >from Benderi opens first traveling cinema theater... Consisting of information on Jewish enterprises as well as the names of their owners - Jewish entrepreneurs who heavily contributed to the region's development into one of the major economic and cultural centers, the collection presents a great interest to historians, professional genealogists and family researchers alike. Our Bessarabia SIG is sponsoring together with the conference our guest historian and genealogist Alla Chastina >from Kishinev, Moldova. She will give two presentations, and will participate in the Panel Discussion. Her presents at the conference will help our Bessarabia SIG to get more records from Archives, to understand better what is available and how to get them.We need your help to cover some costs. Please donate $25, $50, $100 to the Bessarabia SIG Speakers Bureau ( go to jewishgen.org / Donate / Bessarabia SIG / Bessarabia SIG Speakers Bureau). Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you all, Yefim Kogan Bessarabia SIG Coordinator Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany, Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China
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Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia 34th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy, Salt Lake City, July 27-August 1
#bessarabia
Yefim Kogan
Hi the Bessarabers...
I am delighted to let you know that we have a great program at the Jewish Gen conference this summer and that there are many presentations and events related to our Bessarabia region. Please remember that Early registration at the conference will end in 10 days, on 5/31! Here are Bessarabian/Moldovan related events: Sunday, July 27 SHARE Fair. Bessarabia Sig will participate. You will see new terrific historical maps, ask questions, meet other fellow Bessarabians. Monday, July 28 Jewish Life in Bessarabia as it is Reflected in Bessarabian Newspapers, 1850-1930 Alla Chastina, Kishinev, Republic of Moldova Published in Russian, Romanian and Yiddish, the newspapers present all too often overlooked by genealogist's source of information of all the aspects of Jewish everyday life throughout the region. Virtually every page has data related to Bessarabian Jews. Bessarabian Provincial Gazette of 1884 published a list of Chisinau Jews subjected to conscription... Chisinau Voice in 1916 wrote about Jewish touring troupe ran by N. Spivakovsky performing in the famous Gorishteyn theater... Bessarabian Word wrote about singer Anna Gelber, actor Misha Fishzon, lecturer Davidzon performing in Ismail. About Joint allocating $13,000 to the needs of Jewish hospitals in Bessarabia... With Jewish merchants and pharmacists, rabbis and jewelers, cultural and financial institutions, charitable foundations and hospitals - the newspapers are "time capsules" containing vast information of the once thriving and now all but extinct Jewish life in the historic Bessarabia. Tuesday, July 29 Bessarabian SIG Board Meeting. Everybody is welcome to attend, bring ideas, suggestions, become involved in projects, start new projects. Bessarabia SIG Meeting The meeting is open to anyone with roots or interest in the region historically known as Bessarabia, an area now comprising the Moldova Republic and parts of Ukraine. At the end of the 19th century and before the War, Bessarabia had significant Jewish presence. The Bessarabia SIG was organized at the end of 2011 to help people in their Bessarabian genealogical research. This meeting will focus on our FUTURE plans, new projects, getting new records. Wednesday, July 30 Jewish Cemeteries in Bessarabia and Moldova: History, Current state, Indexing, Photographing Yefim Kogan Recently I found that the most urgent research in Jewish Genealogy in Bessarabia is investigating, indexing and photographing grave inscriptions at the CEMETERIES! The reason is not only that the cemeteries deteriorating, but a grave in an existing cemetery, if not paid for, can be removed, and another placed instead! There are about 60-70 Jewish cemeteries currently in Bessarabia/Moldova. Detailed information on most of them will be presented from old maps, Russian/Moldovan websites, photos and more. Registry and somephotographs >from 15 of them are part of JOWBR now. There are also a number of already disappeared cemeteries >from which we may know their location from an old map or even find piece of broken gravestone. What Jewish communities in Bessarabia/Moldova are doing for Jewish Cemeteries? You will hear what Bessarabia SIG is working on and planning for new future to preserve the names of Jewish people buried in Bessarabia/Moldova. Ask the Experts: A Panel on the Geography, History, and Culture of Bessarabia / Moldova Yefim Kogan - moderator There are many complex questions of geography and history a genealogist, whether a beginner or an expert, may encounter in the search for family records. In this panel you will get help >from a knowledgeable group of experts who have lived, traveled, and conducted research in the Bessarabia/Moldova region. You will learn what is new at Moldovan Archives; what Internet sources for genealogical research in Bessarabia exist throughout the world and how to access them; and much, much more. Moderator: Yefim Kogan. Panelists: Alla Chastina (Kishinev, Moldova); Alex Denisenko (Lviv, Ukraine); Ala Gamulka (Canada); Terry Lasky and Yefim Kogan (USA). Please submit written questions in advance to the moderator (yefimk@...). The panel will choose questions that hold the most interest to the greatest number of researchers. Audience at the session will be invited to ask questions, too. $$$ Bessarabian SIG Luncheon with presentation Bessarabian Jewish Entrepreneurs in 1870 - 1917 by Alla Chastina, Kishinev, Moldova National Archives of the Republic of Moldova holds vast collections of documents related to Jewish entrepreneurs in Bessarabia who owned numerous factories, shops, pharmacies, mills. They built synagogues, opened circuses, skating rinks, theaters, banks and many other businesses. First in Chisinau juice and wine producing company was founded in 1870 by merchant Eleazar Radelet, his father Yoyna Radelet - owned Chisinau distillery. First in Bessarabia steam brewery "Bergshloss" owned by M. Kipervasser. Merchant from Soroca S.Gendler received permission to build a public bath in Ataki in 1891-1892. Ovshy Pagis >from Benderi opens first traveling cinema theater... Consisting of information on Jewish enterprises as well as the names of their owners - Jewish entrepreneurs who heavily contributed to the region's development into one of the major economic and cultural centers, the collection presents a great interest to historians, professional genealogists and family researchers alike. Our Bessarabia SIG is sponsoring together with the conference our guest historian and genealogist Alla Chastina >from Kishinev, Moldova. She will give two presentations, and will participate in the Panel Discussion. Her presents at the conference will help our Bessarabia SIG to get more records from Archives, to understand better what is available and how to get them.We need your help to cover some costs. Please donate $25, $50, $100 to the Bessarabia SIG Speakers Bureau ( go to jewishgen.org / Donate / Bessarabia SIG / Bessarabia SIG Speakers Bureau). Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you all, Yefim Kogan Bessarabia SIG Coordinator Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany, Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China
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KLUGER in Myslenice
#galicia
Mark Tritsch
Hi,
I'm researching the KLUGER family in Munich and have a lead to Myslenice in Galicia: Jakob Wolf Kluger, born 30.11.1873 in Mislenice, Galicia, died 16.06.1939 in Munich. His parents were Osias Kluger and Rachel Kluger nee Scharf. His wife was Berta nee Zinner. I do have adequate information about the family and their fate in Munich, but I need to follow the track in Myslenice, where I have a blank so far. Can anyone offer advice or help? Myslenice is not in JRI-Poland, it was a small community, only officially existing after the 1870s, so its records were kept elsewhere. Where? Kluger descent is reported to be >from Rabbi Shlomo Kluger of Brody (1783-1869). Osias and Rachel are probably the Yeshaya Kluger and Rachel Miriam Scharf (granddaughter of Rabbi Moshe Yaakov Scharf) found in a publicly available table of descendents of Rabbi Scharf (1786-1868). Greetings to all, Mark Tritsch Ulm in Germany
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia KLUGER in Myslenice
#galicia
Mark Tritsch
Hi,
I'm researching the KLUGER family in Munich and have a lead to Myslenice in Galicia: Jakob Wolf Kluger, born 30.11.1873 in Mislenice, Galicia, died 16.06.1939 in Munich. His parents were Osias Kluger and Rachel Kluger nee Scharf. His wife was Berta nee Zinner. I do have adequate information about the family and their fate in Munich, but I need to follow the track in Myslenice, where I have a blank so far. Can anyone offer advice or help? Myslenice is not in JRI-Poland, it was a small community, only officially existing after the 1870s, so its records were kept elsewhere. Where? Kluger descent is reported to be >from Rabbi Shlomo Kluger of Brody (1783-1869). Osias and Rachel are probably the Yeshaya Kluger and Rachel Miriam Scharf (granddaughter of Rabbi Moshe Yaakov Scharf) found in a publicly available table of descendents of Rabbi Scharf (1786-1868). Greetings to all, Mark Tritsch Ulm in Germany
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Tiraspol Cemetery project
#bessarabia
Yefim Kogan
To Bessarabian and Ukrainian researchers:
Last week I wrote to you about two Dubossary projects... and today is another project for the town of Tiraspol, which was a district town in Kherson Gubernia, and now is in Republic of Moldova, Transnistria self-proclaimed territory. This is a cemetery photographing/indexing project, and we started it several months ago and hope it will be ready in a month. First I want to thank our volunteers: Dena Whitman Julia Lombardo Tsvetana Spasova For the great work they did, who worked hard with lists and images of the stones to translated and verify that we have correct records. We have now about 2200 records and almost 2000 photographs. I also would like to thank the elderly person who lives in Tiraspol and agreed to make photos for us. It is a very hard job to make his way in that cemetery (and in many other too). Some parts of the cemetery is covered with trees and bushes and it is almost impossible to see the gravestone and make a photo. Now we need to pay for the photos, and we did not collect yet enough money for that! Please make donations for Tiraspol Cemetery project. Donate $25, $50, $100 or more to Tiraspol Cemetery Project. Go to JewishGen.org / Donate / Bessarabia SIG list / Tiraspol Cemetery Project. Thank you all, Yefim Kogan Bessarabia SIG Coordinator Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany, Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China
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Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Tiraspol Cemetery project
#bessarabia
Yefim Kogan
To Bessarabian and Ukrainian researchers:
Last week I wrote to you about two Dubossary projects... and today is another project for the town of Tiraspol, which was a district town in Kherson Gubernia, and now is in Republic of Moldova, Transnistria self-proclaimed territory. This is a cemetery photographing/indexing project, and we started it several months ago and hope it will be ready in a month. First I want to thank our volunteers: Dena Whitman Julia Lombardo Tsvetana Spasova For the great work they did, who worked hard with lists and images of the stones to translated and verify that we have correct records. We have now about 2200 records and almost 2000 photographs. I also would like to thank the elderly person who lives in Tiraspol and agreed to make photos for us. It is a very hard job to make his way in that cemetery (and in many other too). Some parts of the cemetery is covered with trees and bushes and it is almost impossible to see the gravestone and make a photo. Now we need to pay for the photos, and we did not collect yet enough money for that! Please make donations for Tiraspol Cemetery project. Donate $25, $50, $100 or more to Tiraspol Cemetery Project. Go to JewishGen.org / Donate / Bessarabia SIG list / Tiraspol Cemetery Project. Thank you all, Yefim Kogan Bessarabia SIG Coordinator Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany, Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China
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Shapiro from Lubny
#ukraine
Gayle Schlissel Riley
Is there anyone with the family name of SHAPIRO >from Lubny, out there? Two
brothers never left the Ukraine. The first names were Yomtov Guttman and Yitchuk, both born 1870 or 1880 ish. Was there a Yizkor book >from that area? The family started out near Minsk. There were 6 brothers and one sister. Morris Aron Jacob Nathan Yitchuk Yomtov Guttman Rachel Any help would be appreciated. First 3 lived in Iowa, Nathan in UK and Rachel Australia. Thanks Respond privately. Gayle
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Shapiro from Lubny
#ukraine
Gayle Schlissel Riley
Is there anyone with the family name of SHAPIRO >from Lubny, out there? Two
brothers never left the Ukraine. The first names were Yomtov Guttman and Yitchuk, both born 1870 or 1880 ish. Was there a Yizkor book >from that area? The family started out near Minsk. There were 6 brothers and one sister. Morris Aron Jacob Nathan Yitchuk Yomtov Guttman Rachel Any help would be appreciated. First 3 lived in Iowa, Nathan in UK and Rachel Australia. Thanks Respond privately. Gayle
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Warsaw Photos
#poland
Hi All
These are photos taken this week in Warsaw: The Museum of History of Polish Jews: http://elirab.me/2014/05/20/warsaw-exhibition-at-museum-of-history -of-polish-jews/ Warsaw: http://elirab.me/2014/05/19/warsaw/ and http://elirab.me/2014/05/21/warsaw-continued/ Eli Rabinowitz Perth, Australia
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JRI Poland #Poland Warsaw Photos
#poland
Hi All
These are photos taken this week in Warsaw: The Museum of History of Polish Jews: http://elirab.me/2014/05/20/warsaw-exhibition-at-museum-of-history -of-polish-jews/ Warsaw: http://elirab.me/2014/05/19/warsaw/ and http://elirab.me/2014/05/21/warsaw-continued/ Eli Rabinowitz Perth, Australia
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Kolodzinsky from Michalowo/Nezbodchi or Siegel
#poland
rik1210@...
Looking for any family Kolodzinsky >from Michalowo/Nezbodchi or Siegel
from Krinenk.A hartsikn dank Ronald I. Kaplan Atlanta, Georgia MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information. Suggestions of research methods or resources may be shared with the list.
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JRI Poland #Poland Kolodzinsky from Michalowo/Nezbodchi or Siegel
#poland
rik1210@...
Looking for any family Kolodzinsky >from Michalowo/Nezbodchi or Siegel
from Krinenk.A hartsikn dank Ronald I. Kaplan Atlanta, Georgia MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information. Suggestions of research methods or resources may be shared with the list.
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