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Re: "Where is Britshewo" #general

NFatouros@...
 

Merav Schetman's message of 11-26-00 asked:

<< Two questions: When the form says Russia, does it mean it or can it be
also Ukraine Bellarus and so forth? We think our family came >from Ukraine,
can someone give us a _definite_ answer to the above name in the Ukraine?.. >>

In Chester G. Cohen's "Shtetl Finder Gazetteer" I found an entry for
"Britcheva" an agricultural center founded in 1839, north west of Odessa. It
was or is located about five kilometers south of the town of Tirnova in
Bessarabia province. There is a Yizkor book for the town "Pinkas Britchiva"
and it has a probably brief entry in the Encyclopedia Judaica.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "Where is Britshewo" #general

NFatouros@...
 

Merav Schetman's message of 11-26-00 asked:

<< Two questions: When the form says Russia, does it mean it or can it be
also Ukraine Bellarus and so forth? We think our family came >from Ukraine,
can someone give us a _definite_ answer to the above name in the Ukraine?.. >>

In Chester G. Cohen's "Shtetl Finder Gazetteer" I found an entry for
"Britcheva" an agricultural center founded in 1839, north west of Odessa. It
was or is located about five kilometers south of the town of Tirnova in
Bessarabia province. There is a Yizkor book for the town "Pinkas Britchiva"
and it has a probably brief entry in the Encyclopedia Judaica.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol.


Re: Schneidermuhl (Origin of First name:Mentain, in E Prussia" #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his message of 11-26-00 Vernon Kronenberg asked two questions. Except
for offering a speculative opinion that the first name "Mentain" may be
related to the name "Mendel" I cannot comment on in further,

As for the town of "Schneidermuhl" according to my Columbia-Lippincott
Gazetteer, it was also called "Pila," in Polish. In 1939 it had population
of 45,791 and in 1946, it was only 10,671. About 85 % of the town was
destroyed during WW II. A rail junction and frontier town, it is located
in Poznan province, 50 miles north of Poznan and opposite the town of Ujscie.
It was noted for hemp and linen milling, manufacture of agricultural
machinery, sawmilling, metalworking, and beet sugar refining.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Schneidermuhl (Origin of First name:Mentain, in E Prussia" #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his message of 11-26-00 Vernon Kronenberg asked two questions. Except
for offering a speculative opinion that the first name "Mentain" may be
related to the name "Mendel" I cannot comment on in further,

As for the town of "Schneidermuhl" according to my Columbia-Lippincott
Gazetteer, it was also called "Pila," in Polish. In 1939 it had population
of 45,791 and in 1946, it was only 10,671. About 85 % of the town was
destroyed during WW II. A rail junction and frontier town, it is located
in Poznan province, 50 miles north of Poznan and opposite the town of Ujscie.
It was noted for hemp and linen milling, manufacture of agricultural
machinery, sawmilling, metalworking, and beet sugar refining.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol.


Address for Kamenets-Podolski #ukraine

mikkie.leiterman <51942087@...>
 

I was wondering if anyone knows or has an address for
Kamenets-Podolski. I'm looking for the birth/death and marriage
certificates for the LEITERMAN family who came >from Orinin Russia.
Since Orinin is no longer on the map, I'm guessing that all records
would go to the closest major city. Is this assumption correct. Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,
Mikkie

LEITERMAN
SCHRIES

MODERATOR'S NOTE: I assume that Mikkie is asking for the address of the Archives in Kamenets-Podolsk. My understanding is that there are no records available for the time period of 1880-1914. Can someone provide more information?


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Address for Kamenets-Podolski #ukraine

mikkie.leiterman <51942087@...>
 

I was wondering if anyone knows or has an address for
Kamenets-Podolski. I'm looking for the birth/death and marriage
certificates for the LEITERMAN family who came >from Orinin Russia.
Since Orinin is no longer on the map, I'm guessing that all records
would go to the closest major city. Is this assumption correct. Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,
Mikkie

LEITERMAN
SCHRIES

MODERATOR'S NOTE: I assume that Mikkie is asking for the address of the Archives in Kamenets-Podolsk. My understanding is that there are no records available for the time period of 1880-1914. Can someone provide more information?


Solicitation from researcher #ukraine

Gale Bouchillon <galeb@...>
 

Following the recent discussion about solicitations, I received the
message printed below recently. Has anyone had any experience with this
group? Have you had any positive results? Thanks for your help.
Gale Bouchillon

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Allan Mazur at <Mazur@rff.org> has also asked the same question. I have had to remove address details of the soliciting person as we do not put testimonials or complaints about commercial genealogists on the list. Those who would like to reply to Gale & Allan must do so privately by contacting them at their personal email addresses. Thanks.

Subject:
genealogical research in Ukraine
Date:
Thu, 23 Nov 2000 17:25:42 +0200
To:
"Gale Bouchillon" <galeb@nsu.acast.nova.edu>

Dear Gale Bouchillon!
We saw your letter about Voronovitsa searching in SIG. You asked for help and we can give it to you. We are The International Center of
Genealogical Research. Legal organization doing genealogical researches in Ukraine almost two years. Our office is situated in Kyiv.
Voronovitsa is now situated in Vinnitsa region. It is not far >from Kyiv and that is why we are doing researches in Vinnitsa Archives very often.
And we understand the problem if somebody like you wants to do research in Ukrainian Archive and never get the answers.
So, if you are interested in our service please contact our director Angela Semakova by this e-mail address and you would have our help with
the ukrainian part of your genealogical research
Hope for cooperation,
IGRC researcher


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Solicitation from researcher #ukraine

Gale Bouchillon <galeb@...>
 

Following the recent discussion about solicitations, I received the
message printed below recently. Has anyone had any experience with this
group? Have you had any positive results? Thanks for your help.
Gale Bouchillon

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Allan Mazur at <Mazur@rff.org> has also asked the same question. I have had to remove address details of the soliciting person as we do not put testimonials or complaints about commercial genealogists on the list. Those who would like to reply to Gale & Allan must do so privately by contacting them at their personal email addresses. Thanks.

Subject:
genealogical research in Ukraine
Date:
Thu, 23 Nov 2000 17:25:42 +0200
To:
"Gale Bouchillon" <galeb@nsu.acast.nova.edu>

Dear Gale Bouchillon!
We saw your letter about Voronovitsa searching in SIG. You asked for help and we can give it to you. We are The International Center of
Genealogical Research. Legal organization doing genealogical researches in Ukraine almost two years. Our office is situated in Kyiv.
Voronovitsa is now situated in Vinnitsa region. It is not far >from Kyiv and that is why we are doing researches in Vinnitsa Archives very often.
And we understand the problem if somebody like you wants to do research in Ukrainian Archive and never get the answers.
So, if you are interested in our service please contact our director Angela Semakova by this e-mail address and you would have our help with
the ukrainian part of your genealogical research
Hope for cooperation,
IGRC researcher


Research help in Slovakia Please #hungary

Stiefel Barry <bstiefel@...>
 

I was wondering if there is anyone who recieves this
listserver in Slovakia or will be going to Slovakia,
if they could do me a favor and photographer a few
tombstones in a cemetery? I would be more than willing
to cover the film, developing, etc. expenses. I am
researching my WELVART/WELWARD and Eisler ancestry
from Banska Stiavnica and Repyste in Slovakia, and
have found out the cemteries are intact. I have looked
at the Banska Stiavnica records at the FHL in Slat
Lake City already but could find none for Repyste. Any
help in archives in Slovakia would also be much
appreciated.

Sincerely,

Barry Stiefel
East Lansing, MI, USA

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Hungary SIG #Hungary Research help in Slovakia Please #hungary

Stiefel Barry <bstiefel@...>
 

I was wondering if there is anyone who recieves this
listserver in Slovakia or will be going to Slovakia,
if they could do me a favor and photographer a few
tombstones in a cemetery? I would be more than willing
to cover the film, developing, etc. expenses. I am
researching my WELVART/WELWARD and Eisler ancestry
from Banska Stiavnica and Repyste in Slovakia, and
have found out the cemteries are intact. I have looked
at the Banska Stiavnica records at the FHL in Slat
Lake City already but could find none for Repyste. Any
help in archives in Slovakia would also be much
appreciated.

Sincerely,

Barry Stiefel
East Lansing, MI, USA

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.
http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: where his units served #general

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

You can learn learn where Army units served during World War I >from the
following book:

Order of Battle of the United States Land Forces in the World War

Volume 1, published by the Center of Military History

United Stated Army, 1988

My grandfather also was at Ft McDowell, CA and served in the Philippines
before being sent to Siberia as part of the bizarre AEF Siberia mission.
You can read about my grandfather and the AEF Siberia at:
http://members.screenz.com/bennypostcards/AEF_Siberia.htm

Steven Weiss
Chicago

I'm trying to find out where his units served. I know that at some point
in time he was in the Philippines.
I sent an email to the Archives, but never got a reply. Is there a
military source? Something in the public library? Try the Archives again?
Perhaps another JewishGenner had a relative in the same units...Any help
would be greatly apprecitated.

.Nov 1907-Oct 1910 Company A, 3rd Regiment (Infantry) Columbus Barracks, OH
Oct 1910-Oct 1913 23rd Regiment (Infantry) Ft McDowell, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: where his units served #general

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

You can learn learn where Army units served during World War I >from the
following book:

Order of Battle of the United States Land Forces in the World War

Volume 1, published by the Center of Military History

United Stated Army, 1988

My grandfather also was at Ft McDowell, CA and served in the Philippines
before being sent to Siberia as part of the bizarre AEF Siberia mission.
You can read about my grandfather and the AEF Siberia at:
http://members.screenz.com/bennypostcards/AEF_Siberia.htm

Steven Weiss
Chicago

I'm trying to find out where his units served. I know that at some point
in time he was in the Philippines.
I sent an email to the Archives, but never got a reply. Is there a
military source? Something in the public library? Try the Archives again?
Perhaps another JewishGenner had a relative in the same units...Any help
would be greatly apprecitated.

.Nov 1907-Oct 1910 Company A, 3rd Regiment (Infantry) Columbus Barracks, OH
Oct 1910-Oct 1913 23rd Regiment (Infantry) Ft McDowell, CA


Re: Engagement - David Ziants - Judith Verhoef :Thank you. #general

David Ziants <dziants@...>
 

Thank you everyone for your good wishes on the occasion of our
engagement. Also received messages >from people that I have never
had contact with in the past, which is very thoughtful, but please
forgive me if I don't respond personally, as this is too many.

Now back to the wedding preparations....

Regards,
David Ziants

David Ziants wrote:


With great joy I, David Ziants - David Yossef ben Mordechai, originally
from the UK, am pleased to have announced my engagement to Judith
Verhoef - Yehudit Shoshanna bat Yisrael, recently >from Holland.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Engagement - David Ziants - Judith Verhoef :Thank you. #general

David Ziants <dziants@...>
 

Thank you everyone for your good wishes on the occasion of our
engagement. Also received messages >from people that I have never
had contact with in the past, which is very thoughtful, but please
forgive me if I don't respond personally, as this is too many.

Now back to the wedding preparations....

Regards,
David Ziants

David Ziants wrote:


With great joy I, David Ziants - David Yossef ben Mordechai, originally
from the UK, am pleased to have announced my engagement to Judith
Verhoef - Yehudit Shoshanna bat Yisrael, recently >from Holland.


Re: Mother's maiden name POKROJSKI HOLLANDERSKY #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:08:22, cglikson@ciudad.com.ar (Carlos Glikson)
opined:

Stanley Winthrop wrote he was "..told that there was a period in Poland
around 1880 when the government did not recognize Jewish marriages...
(C)hildren...who later emigrated were given ..documents with their mothers
maiden name as their family name.".
Stanley asked if this was true. It could explain why my father's
POKROJSKI / POKROISKY uncles adopted the HOLLANDER surname (their mother's
shortened HOLLANDERSKY) arriving in the States after that date >from today's
Poland /Lithuania border area. I thought this was due to easier spelling.
Is there information on the duration of this lack of recognition of Jewish
marriages, if it did exist?
There is an alternate explanation for the choice of your uncles, which
is the same as the choice of my own grandfather (who left exactly the
same region in 1898). He was one of a large extended family,
originally Najman, that emigrated to the US at about the same time and
simply anglicized the surname to "Newman". My grandfather chose to
leave Poland as "Guttman" and therefore enter the US with that name,
which is mysterious until one notes that his mother's maiden name was
Guttmanowicz. Why he did this is apparently related to the fact that
he was "on the lam", having deserted his unit in the Russian Imperial
Army.

Although you may well be right about their reasons, it would be a good
idea to check out whether they might have had their own reasons,
avoidance of military service or other, for leaving the Russian Empire
under a name other than that with which they were born.

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

PLEASE NOTE: Messages to the "From:" or "Reply to:" address of this
posting will NOT reach me, but will be deleted automatically unread.
Replace "sheol" with "stan". Please send plain text only.


Samuel FRIEDBERG #general

Nurit Kraus-Friedberg <n.kraus-friedberg@...>
 

Hi!
I'm looking for information on Samuel FRIEDBERG, my grandfather's brother, a
cantor who lived in Far Rockaway(part of Queens), New York. I'm not sure
exactly when he lived there, but it could have been in the 1920's. He was
born in 1862, probably in Grodno, and his parents were Meir and Aidel
FRIEDBERG. I have a possible lead but nothing solid, and the lead itself may
not be accurate.
Thanks for any help anyone can give me.
Nurit Kraus-Friedberg
n.kraus-friedberg@worldnet.att.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Mother's maiden name POKROJSKI HOLLANDERSKY #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:08:22, cglikson@ciudad.com.ar (Carlos Glikson)
opined:

Stanley Winthrop wrote he was "..told that there was a period in Poland
around 1880 when the government did not recognize Jewish marriages...
(C)hildren...who later emigrated were given ..documents with their mothers
maiden name as their family name.".
Stanley asked if this was true. It could explain why my father's
POKROJSKI / POKROISKY uncles adopted the HOLLANDER surname (their mother's
shortened HOLLANDERSKY) arriving in the States after that date >from today's
Poland /Lithuania border area. I thought this was due to easier spelling.
Is there information on the duration of this lack of recognition of Jewish
marriages, if it did exist?
There is an alternate explanation for the choice of your uncles, which
is the same as the choice of my own grandfather (who left exactly the
same region in 1898). He was one of a large extended family,
originally Najman, that emigrated to the US at about the same time and
simply anglicized the surname to "Newman". My grandfather chose to
leave Poland as "Guttman" and therefore enter the US with that name,
which is mysterious until one notes that his mother's maiden name was
Guttmanowicz. Why he did this is apparently related to the fact that
he was "on the lam", having deserted his unit in the Russian Imperial
Army.

Although you may well be right about their reasons, it would be a good
idea to check out whether they might have had their own reasons,
avoidance of military service or other, for leaving the Russian Empire
under a name other than that with which they were born.

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

PLEASE NOTE: Messages to the "From:" or "Reply to:" address of this
posting will NOT reach me, but will be deleted automatically unread.
Replace "sheol" with "stan". Please send plain text only.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Samuel FRIEDBERG #general

Nurit Kraus-Friedberg <n.kraus-friedberg@...>
 

Hi!
I'm looking for information on Samuel FRIEDBERG, my grandfather's brother, a
cantor who lived in Far Rockaway(part of Queens), New York. I'm not sure
exactly when he lived there, but it could have been in the 1920's. He was
born in 1862, probably in Grodno, and his parents were Meir and Aidel
FRIEDBERG. I have a possible lead but nothing solid, and the lead itself may
not be accurate.
Thanks for any help anyone can give me.
Nurit Kraus-Friedberg
n.kraus-friedberg@worldnet.att.net


Re: Ships from Bremen #general

Meshenberg, Michael J. <mjmeshenberg@...>
 

Try this site:

http://www.cimorelli.com/safe/shipmenu.htm
New Ships Database Extraction Tools:

This is an online collection of databases comprised of the Morton Allan
Directory, M1066 Microfilm series >from NARA, various newspaper articles,
Internet sources, and personal contributions, henceforth known as CIMO -
Cimorelli Immigration Manifests Online.

You should be able to find your ship here.

Mike Meshenberg


Ilya Zeldes [mailto:ilyaz@iline.com] wrote:

Dear Genners:
I'm trying to find a ship sailed >from Bremen (Bremerhaven) to New York in
December 1909 or January 1910. I looked in the German SIG, on LDS FHL and
on the Web in general, but found nothing... Any suggestions on how to find it?
SNIP


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Ships from Bremen #general

Meshenberg, Michael J. <mjmeshenberg@...>
 

Try this site:

http://www.cimorelli.com/safe/shipmenu.htm
New Ships Database Extraction Tools:

This is an online collection of databases comprised of the Morton Allan
Directory, M1066 Microfilm series >from NARA, various newspaper articles,
Internet sources, and personal contributions, henceforth known as CIMO -
Cimorelli Immigration Manifests Online.

You should be able to find your ship here.

Mike Meshenberg


Ilya Zeldes [mailto:ilyaz@iline.com] wrote:

Dear Genners:
I'm trying to find a ship sailed >from Bremen (Bremerhaven) to New York in
December 1909 or January 1910. I looked in the German SIG, on LDS FHL and
on the Web in general, but found nothing... Any suggestions on how to find it?
SNIP