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Nursery rhyme #hungary

Carol Achtman <achtman@...>
 

When I was a child, my grandfather used to recite a rhyme, with action like "This Little Piggy", in a language I had never heard. Is it Hungarian? (Spelling and word separation are purely phonetic.)

Baba schetz
Oror schetz
Viya ku
Kura ku
Kukkery ku.

Carol Rederer Achtman
Palo Alto, CA


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Marcus WINKLER born in Gyomoro #hungary

Ulenspigel@...
 

Dear List;

Can anyone tell me anything about the village o Gyomoro in Hungary?

My grandfather, Marcus Winkler was born there on 8 June 1863.

Thank you,

Doris Winkler Wilson


Hungary SIG #Hungary Nursery rhyme #hungary

Carol Achtman <achtman@...>
 

When I was a child, my grandfather used to recite a rhyme, with action like "This Little Piggy", in a language I had never heard. Is it Hungarian? (Spelling and word separation are purely phonetic.)

Baba schetz
Oror schetz
Viya ku
Kura ku
Kukkery ku.

Carol Rederer Achtman
Palo Alto, CA


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Hungary SIG #Hungary Marcus WINKLER born in Gyomoro #hungary

Ulenspigel@...
 

Dear List;

Can anyone tell me anything about the village o Gyomoro in Hungary?

My grandfather, Marcus Winkler was born there on 8 June 1863.

Thank you,

Doris Winkler Wilson


Re: Researching these surnames #hungary

Dmfreil@...
 

DIANE M. FREILICH OF MICHIGAN
SEARCHING: FREILICH [AUSTRO-HUNGARY, ZANESVILLE, OH, YUGOSLAVIA, ENGLAND,
AUSTRALIA, USA];
SEDEAUER [WEST PRUSSIA, USA];
GOLDSTEIN [TOO PROLIFIC A NAME TO SEARCH];
FRIEDENBERG [BIALYSTOK, RUSSIA/POLAND]
GILDENFENIG [BIALYSTOK, RUSSIA/POLAND]
KRAMER/KARPEL [LUZON, ROMANIA, CZERNIWITZ, UKRAINE, MICHIGAN USA]
GUTHERZ [ROMANIA, AUSTRIA, CZERNIWITZ]


Re: Austro-Hungarian Name List #hungary

Norman/Jean Fuhrer <nfuhrer@...>
 

Dear H-Siggers,

Listed below are the surnames of the families we are researching:

BERKOWITZ - Beregszazz (Berehove)

FUHRER - (or any variants of the spelling) - Natafalva (Nacina Ves), Ungvar,
Sirkof? Ladomir (mostly Zemplen County) Krosno, Tarnow, Rzeszow - Spisske
Podhradie Area, Dubno, Suciava?? Bukovina

FELDMAN - Ungvar (Uzhgorod)

FRIEDLANDER - Spisske Podhradie

GOLDBLATT - Ungvar (Uzhgorod) Tokaj
all of Zemplen County

LANDSTEIN - Beregszazz - Anywhere in Austro-Hungary

MOSKOWITZ - Ungvar area

ROSENBERG - Ungvar area

SPIELKIN - Russia??

TARLOV - Russia ??

WIEDER - Ungvar - Zemplen County - Anywhere in Austro-Hungary

Any information would be appreciated.

Norman Fuhrer - nfuhrer@iu.net
Titusville, Florida - USA


My Surname List #hungary

Jerry Zeisler <Jerry.Zeisler@...>
 

To all,
Here is my name list that I am researching.

Zeisler/Czeisler/Ceisler: Diosgyor, Kazincz, Eger, Budapest
Ungar: Gyongyos, Budapest
Weiner: Budpest, Vienna
Lory: Budapest
Groedel: Budapest, Maramaros-szighet, Vienna
Lonyay: Budapest, Vienna
Hirsch: Budapest
Lichter - Sol & Rego: Budapest

Jerry Zeisler
Leesburg, Virginia USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Researching these surnames #hungary

Dmfreil@...
 

DIANE M. FREILICH OF MICHIGAN
SEARCHING: FREILICH [AUSTRO-HUNGARY, ZANESVILLE, OH, YUGOSLAVIA, ENGLAND,
AUSTRALIA, USA];
SEDEAUER [WEST PRUSSIA, USA];
GOLDSTEIN [TOO PROLIFIC A NAME TO SEARCH];
FRIEDENBERG [BIALYSTOK, RUSSIA/POLAND]
GILDENFENIG [BIALYSTOK, RUSSIA/POLAND]
KRAMER/KARPEL [LUZON, ROMANIA, CZERNIWITZ, UKRAINE, MICHIGAN USA]
GUTHERZ [ROMANIA, AUSTRIA, CZERNIWITZ]


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Austro-Hungarian Name List #hungary

Norman/Jean Fuhrer <nfuhrer@...>
 

Dear H-Siggers,

Listed below are the surnames of the families we are researching:

BERKOWITZ - Beregszazz (Berehove)

FUHRER - (or any variants of the spelling) - Natafalva (Nacina Ves), Ungvar,
Sirkof? Ladomir (mostly Zemplen County) Krosno, Tarnow, Rzeszow - Spisske
Podhradie Area, Dubno, Suciava?? Bukovina

FELDMAN - Ungvar (Uzhgorod)

FRIEDLANDER - Spisske Podhradie

GOLDBLATT - Ungvar (Uzhgorod) Tokaj
all of Zemplen County

LANDSTEIN - Beregszazz - Anywhere in Austro-Hungary

MOSKOWITZ - Ungvar area

ROSENBERG - Ungvar area

SPIELKIN - Russia??

TARLOV - Russia ??

WIEDER - Ungvar - Zemplen County - Anywhere in Austro-Hungary

Any information would be appreciated.

Norman Fuhrer - nfuhrer@iu.net
Titusville, Florida - USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary My Surname List #hungary

Jerry Zeisler <Jerry.Zeisler@...>
 

To all,
Here is my name list that I am researching.

Zeisler/Czeisler/Ceisler: Diosgyor, Kazincz, Eger, Budapest
Ungar: Gyongyos, Budapest
Weiner: Budpest, Vienna
Lory: Budapest
Groedel: Budapest, Maramaros-szighet, Vienna
Lonyay: Budapest, Vienna
Hirsch: Budapest
Lichter - Sol & Rego: Budapest

Jerry Zeisler
Leesburg, Virginia USA


BANO/BLAU and LEICHT tree and branches #hungary

Margarita Lackó <uzidog@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,

My paternal grandmother, Etelka GRUNWALD, born 1898 in Dunajska Streda (aka
Dunaszerdahely), Slovakia. She died 1972 in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Her
parents were Izidor GRUNWALD (b in Dunajska Streda, had an insurance
company, d 1936 in Dunajska Streda) and Fanny FLEISCHMANN (b in Dunajska
Streda, d in Holocaust, probably in Auschwitz). The GRUNWALDs owned a
carpet factory (persian type) in Dunajska Streda.

My paternal grandfather, Joszef Jeno LEICHT, b 1894 in Csecseny Patony
(near Dunajska Streda), Slovakia. He and his brother Herman, lived in Csaky
ut 20, Budapest, where they partially owned the paper factory called VARGA
es WEISZ at that same address. Jeno died 1958 in Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Parents: Josef LEICHT, b in Austria, arrived in the region of Czakolloz
around 1870/1880 as a sergeant in charge of the grains to feed the troops.
He married Jenny WEISZ, b in Dunajska Streda. They lived in Gyor. Both died
in the Holocaust.

Surnames connected to this branch are:

LEICHT: Austria; Dunajska Streda & Cecinska Poton & Pozsony, Slovakia;
Gyor & Budapest, Hungary; Buenos Aires, Argentina.
GRUNWALD: Dunajska Streda & Ivanka, Slovakia; Budapest, Hungary
WEISS/WEISZ: Dunajska Streda & Brezno, Slovakia; Budapest, Hungary
FLEISCHMANN: Dunajska Streda, Slovakia
KORNFELD: Dunajska Streda, Slovakia; Tel Aviv, Israel.
VEGH: Batorkeszi, Checoslovakia; Dunajska Streda, Slovakia.
LEDERER: Dunajska Streda & Bratislava & Martin, Slovakia.
LEDERER/KARIN: Dunajska Streda, Slovakia; Israel; California, USA.
FOLDES: Bratislava, Slovakia; Israel; California, USA.
FENYO: probably Dunajska Streda, Slovakia
SZERDAHELYI: Dunajska Streda, Slovakia; Gyor & Budapest, Hungary
ANTAL: Olle Tejed & Dunajska Streda, Slovakia; Gyor & Budapest, Hungary.
KURCZ: Trnava & Dunajska Streda & Ivanka, Slovakia
LANGER: Brno, Czechoslovakia; Tel Aviv, Israel.
REISZ: Samorin (Somorja), Slovakia; Buenos Aires, Argentina.
KELLER: Gyor, Hungary.
ADLER (SAS): Gyor, Hungary.


My maternal grandmother, Kornelia FISCHER, was born 1895 in Gyongyos,
Hungary, and died 1966 in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Her parents were Marton
FISHER and Fanny HANNOVER.

My maternal grandfather was born as Herman BLAU in 1888 in Miskolc,

Hungary. Around 1900 he moved to Budapest and later changed his name to
Erno BANO. He became a photographer and had his studio in Podmaniczky ut
10. He died abt. 1939 in Budapest, Hungary. Parents: Gyula BLAU (b 1855 in
Ungvar, Hungary; d 1917 in Budapest) and Kamilla (Chaia) BLAU (b 1864 in
Abaujszanto, Hungary; d 1928). They were first cousins. Rumor says that the
BLAU/BANO family owned a hotel in Miskolc.

Surnames connected to this branch are:

BLAU: Abaujszanto & Ungvar & Miskolc & Budapest, Hungary;
Beregszasz/Berehovo, Ukraine;
New York & Maryland & others, USA; Israel
BANO: Miskolc & Budapest, Hungary
FISCHER: Gyongyos & Miskolc & Budapest, Hungary
SCHWARZ: Secovce, Slovakia; Abaujszanto & Budapest, Hungary.
STERN: probably Miskolc & Budapest, Hungary; Israel.
GAZDA: Miskolc & Budapest, Hungary.
CZUKOR: (not the famous one) Abaujszanto, Hungary; Israel.
JONAP: Homrogd, Hungary.
STEINER: Sahy, Slovakia (was Ipolysag, Hungary).
GROSSMAN: Abaujszanto, Hungary.
SZEGO: Abaujszanto, Hungary
PINTER: Abaujszanto, Hungary; Germany
KARDOS/KIDAR: Abaujszanto, Hungary; Israel.
BOTOS: Abaujszanto & Budapest, Hungary.

It seems that one of my BLAU ancestors married a descendant of Rabbi Elazar
LOW (Shemen Rokeah). Because of this link, I am in contact with some BLAUs
in Tel Aviv and Michigan, USA, and FRIEDMAN in New York.

I also want to add that if anyone has ancestors in Abaujszanto, they should
read:
"Wine and Thorns in Tokaj Valley; Jewish Life in Hungary: the History of
Abaújszántó" by Zahava Szasz Stessel. It's a gold mine!

I'm not really researching my husband's family, but if I can get him
interested with any new information, I might be able to convince him to go
to his ancestors village:

KOHN: Tolcsva, Hungary; New York & Los Angeles, USA

I would like to thank all the people that helped me and taught me so much!
Thanks, H-siggers!

Margarita Lackó
from "the island" in Miami
uzidog@post1.com


searching for Keimovits family links #hungary

Bob and Hazel Keimowitz <rkhk@...>
 

I am looking for information on ancestors and descendants who generally came
from Szabolcs county, the bulk of whom lived in Nyirbator. Names include:
Shimon/SIMON KEIMOVITS born abt. 1838 and his wife Hanna Spitz born in 1841
Shimon was the son of RAFAEL MENASCHE, born in 1807 in Nagyszollis and
HANI MANDEL, born
in 1808 in Nyirbator
Shimon's siblings include Mihaly, Abraham, Eszter, and Maria. This
couple was already
fairly assimilated; we know that children of Mihaly changed their
names to Kovacs, and
there are a few Fodor's in the clan as well.
Hanna (Simonne Spitz), was the daughter of Herman Spitz (1803) from
Karoly and his wife
Rebecca Efraim (1804) >from Szigeth; Hanna's siblings include Beti,
Samuel, Julianna,
and Lajos Spitz.

The children of Shimon and Hanna included: Rozalia (Zali) and her twin,
Rudolph; Regina
Davidne Aron); Rebecca; Herman (husband of Zali Klein); Zsigmond (aka
Zalmon); Betti
(Aronne Steiner); Giza (Victorne Schwartz).

However, one of the sons, Rudolf (Rafael) was bal tsuva, and married
Gizella, born of a religious family, and daughter of:

Moshe Baruch Grunfeld, possibly >from Vitka and his wife Eszter.
Their children included (in addition to Gizella): Leni, and Mali, and
4 or five other
daughters most of whom appear to have been born in Vitka


Any assistance/links would be greatly appreciated.



Robert I. Keimowitz
Washington, DC
email: rkhk@starpower.net


Research names #hungary

Edward Stern <estern@...>
 

I am researching the following names:

FRIEDRICH-Kosice

GROSSMAN-Ungvar

RITTER-Kosice and Ungvar

LEINROVITZ or variant spellings--any where



Thank-you

Edward Stern
Grand Rapids,MI


Hungary SIG #Hungary BANO/BLAU and LEICHT tree and branches #hungary

Margarita Lackó <uzidog@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,

My paternal grandmother, Etelka GRUNWALD, born 1898 in Dunajska Streda (aka
Dunaszerdahely), Slovakia. She died 1972 in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Her
parents were Izidor GRUNWALD (b in Dunajska Streda, had an insurance
company, d 1936 in Dunajska Streda) and Fanny FLEISCHMANN (b in Dunajska
Streda, d in Holocaust, probably in Auschwitz). The GRUNWALDs owned a
carpet factory (persian type) in Dunajska Streda.

My paternal grandfather, Joszef Jeno LEICHT, b 1894 in Csecseny Patony
(near Dunajska Streda), Slovakia. He and his brother Herman, lived in Csaky
ut 20, Budapest, where they partially owned the paper factory called VARGA
es WEISZ at that same address. Jeno died 1958 in Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Parents: Josef LEICHT, b in Austria, arrived in the region of Czakolloz
around 1870/1880 as a sergeant in charge of the grains to feed the troops.
He married Jenny WEISZ, b in Dunajska Streda. They lived in Gyor. Both died
in the Holocaust.

Surnames connected to this branch are:

LEICHT: Austria; Dunajska Streda & Cecinska Poton & Pozsony, Slovakia;
Gyor & Budapest, Hungary; Buenos Aires, Argentina.
GRUNWALD: Dunajska Streda & Ivanka, Slovakia; Budapest, Hungary
WEISS/WEISZ: Dunajska Streda & Brezno, Slovakia; Budapest, Hungary
FLEISCHMANN: Dunajska Streda, Slovakia
KORNFELD: Dunajska Streda, Slovakia; Tel Aviv, Israel.
VEGH: Batorkeszi, Checoslovakia; Dunajska Streda, Slovakia.
LEDERER: Dunajska Streda & Bratislava & Martin, Slovakia.
LEDERER/KARIN: Dunajska Streda, Slovakia; Israel; California, USA.
FOLDES: Bratislava, Slovakia; Israel; California, USA.
FENYO: probably Dunajska Streda, Slovakia
SZERDAHELYI: Dunajska Streda, Slovakia; Gyor & Budapest, Hungary
ANTAL: Olle Tejed & Dunajska Streda, Slovakia; Gyor & Budapest, Hungary.
KURCZ: Trnava & Dunajska Streda & Ivanka, Slovakia
LANGER: Brno, Czechoslovakia; Tel Aviv, Israel.
REISZ: Samorin (Somorja), Slovakia; Buenos Aires, Argentina.
KELLER: Gyor, Hungary.
ADLER (SAS): Gyor, Hungary.


My maternal grandmother, Kornelia FISCHER, was born 1895 in Gyongyos,
Hungary, and died 1966 in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Her parents were Marton
FISHER and Fanny HANNOVER.

My maternal grandfather was born as Herman BLAU in 1888 in Miskolc,

Hungary. Around 1900 he moved to Budapest and later changed his name to
Erno BANO. He became a photographer and had his studio in Podmaniczky ut
10. He died abt. 1939 in Budapest, Hungary. Parents: Gyula BLAU (b 1855 in
Ungvar, Hungary; d 1917 in Budapest) and Kamilla (Chaia) BLAU (b 1864 in
Abaujszanto, Hungary; d 1928). They were first cousins. Rumor says that the
BLAU/BANO family owned a hotel in Miskolc.

Surnames connected to this branch are:

BLAU: Abaujszanto & Ungvar & Miskolc & Budapest, Hungary;
Beregszasz/Berehovo, Ukraine;
New York & Maryland & others, USA; Israel
BANO: Miskolc & Budapest, Hungary
FISCHER: Gyongyos & Miskolc & Budapest, Hungary
SCHWARZ: Secovce, Slovakia; Abaujszanto & Budapest, Hungary.
STERN: probably Miskolc & Budapest, Hungary; Israel.
GAZDA: Miskolc & Budapest, Hungary.
CZUKOR: (not the famous one) Abaujszanto, Hungary; Israel.
JONAP: Homrogd, Hungary.
STEINER: Sahy, Slovakia (was Ipolysag, Hungary).
GROSSMAN: Abaujszanto, Hungary.
SZEGO: Abaujszanto, Hungary
PINTER: Abaujszanto, Hungary; Germany
KARDOS/KIDAR: Abaujszanto, Hungary; Israel.
BOTOS: Abaujszanto & Budapest, Hungary.

It seems that one of my BLAU ancestors married a descendant of Rabbi Elazar
LOW (Shemen Rokeah). Because of this link, I am in contact with some BLAUs
in Tel Aviv and Michigan, USA, and FRIEDMAN in New York.

I also want to add that if anyone has ancestors in Abaujszanto, they should
read:
"Wine and Thorns in Tokaj Valley; Jewish Life in Hungary: the History of
Abaújszántó" by Zahava Szasz Stessel. It's a gold mine!

I'm not really researching my husband's family, but if I can get him
interested with any new information, I might be able to convince him to go
to his ancestors village:

KOHN: Tolcsva, Hungary; New York & Los Angeles, USA

I would like to thank all the people that helped me and taught me so much!
Thanks, H-siggers!

Margarita Lackó
from "the island" in Miami
uzidog@post1.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary searching for Keimovits family links #hungary

Bob and Hazel Keimowitz <rkhk@...>
 

I am looking for information on ancestors and descendants who generally came
from Szabolcs county, the bulk of whom lived in Nyirbator. Names include:
Shimon/SIMON KEIMOVITS born abt. 1838 and his wife Hanna Spitz born in 1841
Shimon was the son of RAFAEL MENASCHE, born in 1807 in Nagyszollis and
HANI MANDEL, born
in 1808 in Nyirbator
Shimon's siblings include Mihaly, Abraham, Eszter, and Maria. This
couple was already
fairly assimilated; we know that children of Mihaly changed their
names to Kovacs, and
there are a few Fodor's in the clan as well.
Hanna (Simonne Spitz), was the daughter of Herman Spitz (1803) from
Karoly and his wife
Rebecca Efraim (1804) >from Szigeth; Hanna's siblings include Beti,
Samuel, Julianna,
and Lajos Spitz.

The children of Shimon and Hanna included: Rozalia (Zali) and her twin,
Rudolph; Regina
Davidne Aron); Rebecca; Herman (husband of Zali Klein); Zsigmond (aka
Zalmon); Betti
(Aronne Steiner); Giza (Victorne Schwartz).

However, one of the sons, Rudolf (Rafael) was bal tsuva, and married
Gizella, born of a religious family, and daughter of:

Moshe Baruch Grunfeld, possibly >from Vitka and his wife Eszter.
Their children included (in addition to Gizella): Leni, and Mali, and
4 or five other
daughters most of whom appear to have been born in Vitka


Any assistance/links would be greatly appreciated.



Robert I. Keimowitz
Washington, DC
email: rkhk@starpower.net


Hungary SIG #Hungary Research names #hungary

Edward Stern <estern@...>
 

I am researching the following names:

FRIEDRICH-Kosice

GROSSMAN-Ungvar

RITTER-Kosice and Ungvar

LEINROVITZ or variant spellings--any where



Thank-you

Edward Stern
Grand Rapids,MI


ZYWERT, SIEVERT/SIEWERT #general

mirek zywert <map@...>
 

G'Day All !

I'm looking for the information regarding my roots and want to find out
whether my ancestors could be Jewish....

Could somebody tell me please, whether they have ever come across any
Jewish people bearing the German(?) surname Sievert\Siewert or their
polonized(?), I'm told, version - Zywert.

Cheers,
Mirek Zywert
map@alphalink.com.au


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ZYWERT, SIEVERT/SIEWERT #general

mirek zywert <map@...>
 

G'Day All !

I'm looking for the information regarding my roots and want to find out
whether my ancestors could be Jewish....

Could somebody tell me please, whether they have ever come across any
Jewish people bearing the German(?) surname Sievert\Siewert or their
polonized(?), I'm told, version - Zywert.

Cheers,
Mirek Zywert
map@alphalink.com.au


Is Vaboilnik called Vabalninkas today? #general

Rica Goldberg
 

dear Genners

A relative in S.A. says that her grandparents came >from Vaboilnik.
Previously someone in that family said their ancestors had come from
Abolnik and when I put this out on JewishGen I was informed that this
is called Vabalninkas today. Is Vaboilnik another way of saying Abolnik?

Rica B Goldberg
Manchester England

Still researching the following:-
1)KAMINSKY (possibly KAMENSHCHIK) Yanova nr Kovno, 2) Nosson Eliazer,
Harris, Joseph and Sarah DIAMOND (possibly DIMONT or DIAMONT) >from Kovno,
Lithuania; 3) Newman, Emanuel, Rachel & Esther LEVY, Chana & Yehuda Lev
LEVY KROSNIEWICE in Poland; 4)Isaac & Rebecca COHEN - Poland; 5) Chaim
and Rebecca ESTRY - Poland; 6) GOLDBERG (possibly) SCHELENGER in Yiddish
SCHLUZITSIL) Vabalninkas, Lith.;7) BERLINSKY >from Charlottenburg, Berlin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Is Vaboilnik called Vabalninkas today? #general

Rica Goldberg
 

dear Genners

A relative in S.A. says that her grandparents came >from Vaboilnik.
Previously someone in that family said their ancestors had come from
Abolnik and when I put this out on JewishGen I was informed that this
is called Vabalninkas today. Is Vaboilnik another way of saying Abolnik?

Rica B Goldberg
Manchester England

Still researching the following:-
1)KAMINSKY (possibly KAMENSHCHIK) Yanova nr Kovno, 2) Nosson Eliazer,
Harris, Joseph and Sarah DIAMOND (possibly DIMONT or DIAMONT) >from Kovno,
Lithuania; 3) Newman, Emanuel, Rachel & Esther LEVY, Chana & Yehuda Lev
LEVY KROSNIEWICE in Poland; 4)Isaac & Rebecca COHEN - Poland; 5) Chaim
and Rebecca ESTRY - Poland; 6) GOLDBERG (possibly) SCHELENGER in Yiddish
SCHLUZITSIL) Vabalninkas, Lith.;7) BERLINSKY >from Charlottenburg, Berlin