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Re: Joffe family #latvia

Brest Family <angi@...>
 

ELYA B. JOFFE

I have forwarded your e.mail to the Joffe family in Sandton (Johannesburg
area) South AFrica. They may not be the Joffe family you are referring to
because Joffe is a well known name in the major cities of South AFrica. I
hope that they are your family though.

sincerely
Anne LAPEDUS BREST. ( Ex Dublin, Ireland). Sandton, South Africa..
RESEARCHING: LAPEDUS, Vieksniai, Lithuania. LAPIDUS (all spellings) all
countries, MARCUS, Ackmene, Lithuania, KLAPMAN, Ackmene, Lithuania, KARLIN
Zagera, Lithuania, BREST, Bauska, Latvia. , MIRRELSON , Kourland, Latvia.
ORKIN Zagera, Lithuania. ORKIN Joniskis (Yaneshik) Lithuania. KAHN
Vieksniai , Lithuania. SHILLMAN, Odessa, Russia. NOVGOROD, Yaneshik
(Joniskis), Lithuania.


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Joffe family #latvia

Brest Family <angi@...>
 

ELYA B. JOFFE

I have forwarded your e.mail to the Joffe family in Sandton (Johannesburg
area) South AFrica. They may not be the Joffe family you are referring to
because Joffe is a well known name in the major cities of South AFrica. I
hope that they are your family though.

sincerely
Anne LAPEDUS BREST. ( Ex Dublin, Ireland). Sandton, South Africa..
RESEARCHING: LAPEDUS, Vieksniai, Lithuania. LAPIDUS (all spellings) all
countries, MARCUS, Ackmene, Lithuania, KLAPMAN, Ackmene, Lithuania, KARLIN
Zagera, Lithuania, BREST, Bauska, Latvia. , MIRRELSON , Kourland, Latvia.
ORKIN Zagera, Lithuania. ORKIN Joniskis (Yaneshik) Lithuania. KAHN
Vieksniai , Lithuania. SHILLMAN, Odessa, Russia. NOVGOROD, Yaneshik
(Joniskis), Lithuania.


Rav Aaron Kotler #latvia

lisa.newman.a@...
 

I recently learned that the late Rav Aaron Kotler, who was head of the yeshiva
at Lakewood, was a cousin to my late father and am seeking help to place him on
my family tree. It seems he was the son of a man named PINES [possibly Hirsh]
and a woman whose maiden name was KOTLER. In order to secure the military
exemption >from service given to first-born sons, he was given his mother's
maiden name, though the family name was PINES. This might have been in
Ruzhany, [Lithuania? Byelorusse?]. His aunt, Golda PINES [married name: SAMUEL]
was my paternal grandmother and lived in Libau.

Any advice, hints are welcome. I am also very interested to connect with other
PINES family : my great grandfather was Mordechai Isor PINES, 1836-1927,
married to ZELDOVITCH .

Lisa Newman
Toronto 416 921-0212


Latvia SIG #Latvia Rav Aaron Kotler #latvia

lisa.newman.a@...
 

I recently learned that the late Rav Aaron Kotler, who was head of the yeshiva
at Lakewood, was a cousin to my late father and am seeking help to place him on
my family tree. It seems he was the son of a man named PINES [possibly Hirsh]
and a woman whose maiden name was KOTLER. In order to secure the military
exemption >from service given to first-born sons, he was given his mother's
maiden name, though the family name was PINES. This might have been in
Ruzhany, [Lithuania? Byelorusse?]. His aunt, Golda PINES [married name: SAMUEL]
was my paternal grandmother and lived in Libau.

Any advice, hints are welcome. I am also very interested to connect with other
PINES family : my great grandfather was Mordechai Isor PINES, 1836-1927,
married to ZELDOVITCH .

Lisa Newman
Toronto 416 921-0212


Vabolisnk #latvia

Scott Noar <sman@...>
 

Does anyone have any idea where vabolinsk is or what it's modern day name
is? I was told it was in Latvia.

Scott


Latvia SIG #Latvia Vabolisnk #latvia

Scott Noar <sman@...>
 

Does anyone have any idea where vabolinsk is or what it's modern day name
is? I was told it was in Latvia.

Scott


Fw: Huncovce #hungary

Henny Kestenbaum <henimiki@...>
 

Mod. V. K. Thank you for the information on HUNCOVCE. I have the listing
from the FHL Film # 1739205 and
in it is my gggfather's name: Saul ROSENZWEIG, his occupation, place of
birth, marital status, age, cause, date and place of death. Is there any
sense in my writing to Bratislava archives, would there be any more
information on a death certificate? Thanks again Henny Kestenbaum

----- Original Message -----
From: "Henny Kestenbaum" <henimiki@pathcom.com>
To: "Hungarian SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: March 25, 2001 9:06 PM
Subject: Huncovce


Dear H-Sigers, I found a listing of my gggfather's death in LDS film. He
died in 1892 and is buried in HUNCOVCE , Slovakia. Could someone advise
where to write for his death certificate?
Thanks in advance, Henny Kestenbaum, Toronto, Ont.

Searching:GLUCK, LOWY, HARTSTEIN in Chust, Kiskopany, Hungary
ROSENZWEIG, SCHIDLOW, WAKSKOPF, in Kezmarok Slovakia, Tarnow Poland,
Dresden, Berlin Germany.

Moderator: The FHL has filmed Jewish birth, marriage, and death records
from Huncovce, Slovakia (formerly Hunfalu, Szepes, Hungary). According to
the description the records include some >from 1833-1880's with partial
records to 1942. there are 2 reels FHL Film # 1739204 Items 7-8 and 1739205
Items 1-6. Check the database of Jewish records filmed by the FHL to see if
there's anything else. You'll find the database at
htt://www.jewishgen.org/databases/FHLC/ You can also submit a request to
the State archives in Bratislava. The address is Slovensky narodny archiv,
817 01 Bratislava, Drotarska cesta c. 42, Slovak Republic. Forms to request
genealogical info used to be available at the Slovak Embassy webside. VK







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5 minut after 12 #hungary

Gabor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

Some of you might be interested, there is a day of action planned on the
coming Thursday, 28. March to draw attention of the long delay for the
slave & forced labor compensation. According the leaflet 100'000 person
perished since the start of the negotiations. The action will take place
on the Schlossplatz, Berlin, starting on 28. March 0:05 and lasting 24
hours until 29. March 0:05. A demonstration is planned on 28. March at
12:05.. If somebody is interested I can forward you as an *.rtf
attachment the leaflet I received. >from the "Bundesverband Information &
Beratung fuer NS-Verfolgte" (in German).

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch


Hungary SIG #Hungary Fw: Huncovce #hungary

Henny Kestenbaum <henimiki@...>
 

Mod. V. K. Thank you for the information on HUNCOVCE. I have the listing
from the FHL Film # 1739205 and
in it is my gggfather's name: Saul ROSENZWEIG, his occupation, place of
birth, marital status, age, cause, date and place of death. Is there any
sense in my writing to Bratislava archives, would there be any more
information on a death certificate? Thanks again Henny Kestenbaum

----- Original Message -----
From: "Henny Kestenbaum" <henimiki@pathcom.com>
To: "Hungarian SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: March 25, 2001 9:06 PM
Subject: Huncovce


Dear H-Sigers, I found a listing of my gggfather's death in LDS film. He
died in 1892 and is buried in HUNCOVCE , Slovakia. Could someone advise
where to write for his death certificate?
Thanks in advance, Henny Kestenbaum, Toronto, Ont.

Searching:GLUCK, LOWY, HARTSTEIN in Chust, Kiskopany, Hungary
ROSENZWEIG, SCHIDLOW, WAKSKOPF, in Kezmarok Slovakia, Tarnow Poland,
Dresden, Berlin Germany.

Moderator: The FHL has filmed Jewish birth, marriage, and death records
from Huncovce, Slovakia (formerly Hunfalu, Szepes, Hungary). According to
the description the records include some >from 1833-1880's with partial
records to 1942. there are 2 reels FHL Film # 1739204 Items 7-8 and 1739205
Items 1-6. Check the database of Jewish records filmed by the FHL to see if
there's anything else. You'll find the database at
htt://www.jewishgen.org/databases/FHLC/ You can also submit a request to
the State archives in Bratislava. The address is Slovensky narodny archiv,
817 01 Bratislava, Drotarska cesta c. 42, Slovak Republic. Forms to request
genealogical info used to be available at the Slovak Embassy webside. VK







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Hungary SIG #Hungary 5 minut after 12 #hungary

Gabor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

Some of you might be interested, there is a day of action planned on the
coming Thursday, 28. March to draw attention of the long delay for the
slave & forced labor compensation. According the leaflet 100'000 person
perished since the start of the negotiations. The action will take place
on the Schlossplatz, Berlin, starting on 28. March 0:05 and lasting 24
hours until 29. March 0:05. A demonstration is planned on 28. March at
12:05.. If somebody is interested I can forward you as an *.rtf
attachment the leaflet I received. >from the "Bundesverband Information &
Beratung fuer NS-Verfolgte" (in German).

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch


Re: Hungarian or Yiddish? #hungary

korman3 <korman3@...>
 

This question came to me while I was at a klezmer concert. They were
talking about how klezmer music was the Jewish music of eastern europe,
but I started to wonder if it was the Jewish music of Hungary proper. Or
even Slovakia.

If a family lived in Obuda between 1890 and 1910, would they have spoken
Yiddish or Hungarian as a first language? Or German?

How about if they lived in Pest during that period? Would it be
different than in Obuda?

Debbi

Moderator: My father and his family >from the Szobrancz area spoke Hungarian--no Yiddish at all. They were very assimilated and relatively well-off, lived in Miskolcz and Debrecen before WWI and in Michalovce before emigrating in 1920-21. My mother grew up speaking Yiddish but understood a smattering of Hungarian. Her parents came >from families that were more religious and less wealthy who lived in Sziget and Ujvaros, areas now part of Romania. Interestingly, they all considered themselves Hungarians. VK


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungarian or Yiddish? #hungary

korman3 <korman3@...>
 

This question came to me while I was at a klezmer concert. They were
talking about how klezmer music was the Jewish music of eastern europe,
but I started to wonder if it was the Jewish music of Hungary proper. Or
even Slovakia.

If a family lived in Obuda between 1890 and 1910, would they have spoken
Yiddish or Hungarian as a first language? Or German?

How about if they lived in Pest during that period? Would it be
different than in Obuda?

Debbi

Moderator: My father and his family >from the Szobrancz area spoke Hungarian--no Yiddish at all. They were very assimilated and relatively well-off, lived in Miskolcz and Debrecen before WWI and in Michalovce before emigrating in 1920-21. My mother grew up speaking Yiddish but understood a smattering of Hungarian. Her parents came >from families that were more religious and less wealthy who lived in Sziget and Ujvaros, areas now part of Romania. Interestingly, they all considered themselves Hungarians. VK


Re: Huncovce #hungary

Bob Friedman <inwood@...>
 

The Greater Hungary Internet Links page on our H-SIG web site,
http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/links_hungary.htm, has more than a
dozen places to get information on Slovakia, including several which
tell you where to write for vital records. However, the Slovak
Embassy site and others (which have not been updated in years) say to
write to the Interior Ministry (Ministerstvo Vnutra), at a different
address >from the one Vivian Kahn gave for the National Archives
(Slovensky Narodny Archiv). Melody Amsel's Stropkov web site gives
the same address as Vivian did for both the Interior Ministry AND the
National Archives.=20

When I requested records 5 years ago for a person born in Secovce
(Galszecs), I wrote to the Interior Ministry at 811 04 Bratislava,
Krizkova 7, the address given on the Embassy's web site. I got a
response telling me to correspond directly with the Regional Archive
(Statny Oblastny Archiv) in Kosice, and that's who finally sent me
some information. I think the Huncovce records are probably in the
Presov Regional Archive, but I'm not 100% sure.

Can someone please clarify? Thanks very much!

Bob Friedman, NYC
inwood@pipeline.com

On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:06:53 -0500, Henny Kestenbaum wrote:

Dear H-Sigers, I found a listing of my gggfather's death in LDS film. He
died in 1892 and is buried in HUNCOVCE , Slovakia. Could someone advise
where to write for his death certificate?

Moderator:...You can also submit a request to the State archives in =
Bratislava. =20
The address is Slovensky narodny archiv, 817 01 Bratislava, Drotarska =
cesta=20
c. 42, Slovak Republic. Forms to request genealogical info used to be =
available=20
at the Slovak Embassy webside. VK


Hungarian Interpreter Needed #hungary

Sheryl K <sherylk@...>
 

If there are any Hungarian Interpreters located in the Washington, DC, or
Anaheim, CA, areas, contact Anita Brem at isi.brem@gte.net
B'Shalom
Sheryl KASTRINER


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Huncovce #hungary

Bob Friedman <inwood@...>
 

The Greater Hungary Internet Links page on our H-SIG web site,
http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/links_hungary.htm, has more than a
dozen places to get information on Slovakia, including several which
tell you where to write for vital records. However, the Slovak
Embassy site and others (which have not been updated in years) say to
write to the Interior Ministry (Ministerstvo Vnutra), at a different
address >from the one Vivian Kahn gave for the National Archives
(Slovensky Narodny Archiv). Melody Amsel's Stropkov web site gives
the same address as Vivian did for both the Interior Ministry AND the
National Archives.=20

When I requested records 5 years ago for a person born in Secovce
(Galszecs), I wrote to the Interior Ministry at 811 04 Bratislava,
Krizkova 7, the address given on the Embassy's web site. I got a
response telling me to correspond directly with the Regional Archive
(Statny Oblastny Archiv) in Kosice, and that's who finally sent me
some information. I think the Huncovce records are probably in the
Presov Regional Archive, but I'm not 100% sure.

Can someone please clarify? Thanks very much!

Bob Friedman, NYC
inwood@pipeline.com

On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:06:53 -0500, Henny Kestenbaum wrote:

Dear H-Sigers, I found a listing of my gggfather's death in LDS film. He
died in 1892 and is buried in HUNCOVCE , Slovakia. Could someone advise
where to write for his death certificate?

Moderator:...You can also submit a request to the State archives in =
Bratislava. =20
The address is Slovensky narodny archiv, 817 01 Bratislava, Drotarska =
cesta=20
c. 42, Slovak Republic. Forms to request genealogical info used to be =
available=20
at the Slovak Embassy webside. VK


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian Interpreter Needed #hungary

Sheryl K <sherylk@...>
 

If there are any Hungarian Interpreters located in the Washington, DC, or
Anaheim, CA, areas, contact Anita Brem at isi.brem@gte.net
B'Shalom
Sheryl KASTRINER


MUNKACS #hungary

Alex Miller <AMiller@...>
 

For the many HSiggers with interest in Munkacs(not me....)

www.Judaica.hu has for auction the 1838/9 year book of the local
gymnazium (item #93).

good luck!

Best Regards,

Alex Miller
Reading, PA


Re: What Direction for H-SIG? #hungary

Faith Gardner <ragfhg@...>
 

Dear Bob,

Thank you for your very positive and well-written statement about H-Sig and
JewishGen. Since I joined this group online a year ago, many members have
helped me considerably as I search to learn more and ever more about my
Hungarian Jewish roots. It is because of my experiences this past year and
what I hope to learn in the future that I ask that we put all this behind
us now and return to the exchange of information and experiences we have
had in the past. My thanks to Vivian and Marc and Louis -- especially
Louis who helped me immeasurably when I began my search ( a few years ago,
without a computer) -- and to all of you who make this group what it has
been in the past and, I hope, will continue to be.

Sincerely,
Faith Gardner, N.H.

[Original Message]
From: Bob Friedman <inwood@pipeline.com>
To: Hungarian SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: 3/26/01 3:02:16 AM
Subject: What Direction for H-SIG?

Dear Friends,

With all due respect to Tom Venetianer and others who have recently
voiced similar opinions in this forum, I don't agree that H-SIG is the
place to blow off steam when we feel passionately about a political
issue, or that our volunteer moderators are too strict, or that
JewishGen guidelines are too narrow.

There are numerous other forums designed for unmoderated debate, and
many include messages on Jewish and Holocaust-related themes.
Examples of such groups are soc.culture.jewish, soc.culture.magyar,
soc.culture.palestine, soc.culture.poland, soc.culture.romanian,
soc.culture.syria, soc.culture.yugoslavia, etc. These groups serve a
purpose, and it's not the same as H-SIG's.

I'm not making this statement for bureaucratic reasons. Please take a
few minutes to read the postings in these newsgroups, and then ask
yourself if that is the direction you want for H-SIG.

In my opinion, Lou Schonfeld and "pinch-hitters" Marc Polster, Vivian
Kahn, et al., deserve a tremendous vote of confidence for steering
H-SIG in a constructive, informative, professional direction. I also
feel that over the years the definition of what is "on topic" has been
broad, flexible, and reasonable.

I believe that we all joined H-SIG to share information and
experiences, not to engage in political activity. If we allow
polemical articles and ideological statements in H-SIG, passions will
run high, personal attacks and name-calling will soon follow, and
ultimately our group will disintegrate. Let's not let that happen.

Sincerely,
Bob Friedman, NYC
inwood@pipeline.com

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Hungary SIG #Hungary MUNKACS #hungary

Alex Miller <AMiller@...>
 

For the many HSiggers with interest in Munkacs(not me....)

www.Judaica.hu has for auction the 1838/9 year book of the local
gymnazium (item #93).

good luck!

Best Regards,

Alex Miller
Reading, PA


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: What Direction for H-SIG? #hungary

Faith Gardner <ragfhg@...>
 

Dear Bob,

Thank you for your very positive and well-written statement about H-Sig and
JewishGen. Since I joined this group online a year ago, many members have
helped me considerably as I search to learn more and ever more about my
Hungarian Jewish roots. It is because of my experiences this past year and
what I hope to learn in the future that I ask that we put all this behind
us now and return to the exchange of information and experiences we have
had in the past. My thanks to Vivian and Marc and Louis -- especially
Louis who helped me immeasurably when I began my search ( a few years ago,
without a computer) -- and to all of you who make this group what it has
been in the past and, I hope, will continue to be.

Sincerely,
Faith Gardner, N.H.

[Original Message]
From: Bob Friedman <inwood@pipeline.com>
To: Hungarian SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: 3/26/01 3:02:16 AM
Subject: What Direction for H-SIG?

Dear Friends,

With all due respect to Tom Venetianer and others who have recently
voiced similar opinions in this forum, I don't agree that H-SIG is the
place to blow off steam when we feel passionately about a political
issue, or that our volunteer moderators are too strict, or that
JewishGen guidelines are too narrow.

There are numerous other forums designed for unmoderated debate, and
many include messages on Jewish and Holocaust-related themes.
Examples of such groups are soc.culture.jewish, soc.culture.magyar,
soc.culture.palestine, soc.culture.poland, soc.culture.romanian,
soc.culture.syria, soc.culture.yugoslavia, etc. These groups serve a
purpose, and it's not the same as H-SIG's.

I'm not making this statement for bureaucratic reasons. Please take a
few minutes to read the postings in these newsgroups, and then ask
yourself if that is the direction you want for H-SIG.

In my opinion, Lou Schonfeld and "pinch-hitters" Marc Polster, Vivian
Kahn, et al., deserve a tremendous vote of confidence for steering
H-SIG in a constructive, informative, professional direction. I also
feel that over the years the definition of what is "on topic" has been
broad, flexible, and reasonable.

I believe that we all joined H-SIG to share information and
experiences, not to engage in political activity. If we allow
polemical articles and ideological statements in H-SIG, passions will
run high, personal attacks and name-calling will soon follow, and
ultimately our group will disintegrate. Let's not let that happen.

Sincerely,
Bob Friedman, NYC
inwood@pipeline.com

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