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Wish to make contact with ROTKIN families in Johannesburg, & West Rand, South Africa #southafrica

Roy Ogus <ogus@...>
 

I am trying to make contact with members of the ROTKIN families that
live in the following towns:

Toekomsrus, West Rand
Eldorado Park, West Rand
Highlands North, Johannesburg

I believe that my family is related to these families, and wish to
further explore the connections.

I'd appreciate your contacting me directly if you are >from these
families, or know anyone who is.

Thanks!

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USA
ogus@impact.xerox.com


GRAND HOTEL in Bulawayo #southafrica

Dr. Trevor Waner
 

Can anyone give me the names of the owners (>from about 1950-1970) of the
GRAND HOTEL in Bulawayo? I visited there in about 1965 when it was owned by
family who are related to my mother (GOSS).
Your help is appreciated.
Best regards to all,

Trevor Waner.
Rehovot, Israel.


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Wish to make contact with ROTKIN families in Johannesburg, & West Rand, South Africa #southafrica

Roy Ogus <ogus@...>
 

I am trying to make contact with members of the ROTKIN families that
live in the following towns:

Toekomsrus, West Rand
Eldorado Park, West Rand
Highlands North, Johannesburg

I believe that my family is related to these families, and wish to
further explore the connections.

I'd appreciate your contacting me directly if you are >from these
families, or know anyone who is.

Thanks!

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USA
ogus@impact.xerox.com


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica GRAND HOTEL in Bulawayo #southafrica

Dr. Trevor Waner
 

Can anyone give me the names of the owners (>from about 1950-1970) of the
GRAND HOTEL in Bulawayo? I visited there in about 1965 when it was owned by
family who are related to my mother (GOSS).
Your help is appreciated.
Best regards to all,

Trevor Waner.
Rehovot, Israel.


JGS Palm Beach County, FL - February 2002 Meeting #general

MNewman714@...
 

JGS Palm Beach County, FL will meet on Wednesday, February 13, 2002.
Time: 1 p.m.
Place: South County Civic Center
16700 Jog Road
Delray Beach, FL

Program:
Howard Margol, immediate past president of the International Association of
Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS), will lecture on the topic of "Finding
Unusual Records in Unusual Archives." He will be visiting >from Atlanta,
Georgia, where he is also past president of JGS Georgia.

Guests are welcome. Fee: $5, which can be applied toward membership dues.

Mark your calendar for the 11th Annual Beginners/Intermediate Genealogical
Workshop:
Wednesday, March 20, 2002
1-4 p.m.
South County Civic Center - Delray Beach, FL

Dr. Marvin Hamburg, President


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Palm Beach County, FL - February 2002 Meeting #general

MNewman714@...
 

JGS Palm Beach County, FL will meet on Wednesday, February 13, 2002.
Time: 1 p.m.
Place: South County Civic Center
16700 Jog Road
Delray Beach, FL

Program:
Howard Margol, immediate past president of the International Association of
Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS), will lecture on the topic of "Finding
Unusual Records in Unusual Archives." He will be visiting >from Atlanta,
Georgia, where he is also past president of JGS Georgia.

Guests are welcome. Fee: $5, which can be applied toward membership dues.

Mark your calendar for the 11th Annual Beginners/Intermediate Genealogical
Workshop:
Wednesday, March 20, 2002
1-4 p.m.
South County Civic Center - Delray Beach, FL

Dr. Marvin Hamburg, President


Gary Mokotoff will speak in Atlanta #general

Sandi Goldsmith
 

The William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum of the Jewish Federation of
Greater Atlanta and the Jewish Genealogical Society of Georgia (JGSG),
Inc. in conjunction with Jewish Genealogy Month will sponsor a talk about
"The Future of Jewish Genealogy" by Gary Mokotoff, an author,
lecturer and leader of Jewish genealogy, on Sunday, March 17, at the
William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum, Atlanta, GA at 2:30pm.

Gary is the first person to receive the "Lifetime Achievement Award" of
the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS).
He is the author of a number of books including the award-winning 'Where
Once We Walked,' a gazetteer which provides information about 22,000
towns in central and eastern Europe where Jews lived before the
Holocaust, 'How to Document Victims and Locate Survivors of the
Holocaust,' and 'Getting Started in Jewish Genealogy.' Mokotoff is also
known for his application of computers to genealogy. Among his
accomplishments are co-authorship of the Daitch-Mokotoff soundex system;
the JewishGen Family Finder, a database of ancestral towns and surnames
being researched by some 55,000 Jewish genealogists throughout the world
and the Consolidated Jewish Surname Index. He is publisher of Avotaynu,
the magazine of Jewish genealogy and past president of IAJGS.

The cost of the event is $10 for JGSG members, $15 for non-members.
Advance reservations can be made by mail to JGSG, PO Box 681022,
Marietta, GA 30068-0018. Please include a check and the number of
seats requested. Tickets may also be bought at the door. Non-members
may join the JGSG for a special price of $35, which includes membership
and event admission. For more information, visit www.JGSG.org or
contact Gary Landau at 770.977.1954.


Important update to February meeting of the JGS of Bergen County #general

Edward Rosenbaum <erosenbaum@...>
 

The 12:30 schmooze session at the offices of Avotaynu have been *cancelled*
for this month. Our regular meeting will begin at 2pm at the library at the
JCC on the Palisades.

Thank you very much.

Edward Rosenbaum
President, JGS of Bergen County, New Jersey
(http://erosenbaum.netfirms.com/jgsbc)
email: erosenbaum@yahoo.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gary Mokotoff will speak in Atlanta #general

Sandi Goldsmith
 

The William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum of the Jewish Federation of
Greater Atlanta and the Jewish Genealogical Society of Georgia (JGSG),
Inc. in conjunction with Jewish Genealogy Month will sponsor a talk about
"The Future of Jewish Genealogy" by Gary Mokotoff, an author,
lecturer and leader of Jewish genealogy, on Sunday, March 17, at the
William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum, Atlanta, GA at 2:30pm.

Gary is the first person to receive the "Lifetime Achievement Award" of
the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS).
He is the author of a number of books including the award-winning 'Where
Once We Walked,' a gazetteer which provides information about 22,000
towns in central and eastern Europe where Jews lived before the
Holocaust, 'How to Document Victims and Locate Survivors of the
Holocaust,' and 'Getting Started in Jewish Genealogy.' Mokotoff is also
known for his application of computers to genealogy. Among his
accomplishments are co-authorship of the Daitch-Mokotoff soundex system;
the JewishGen Family Finder, a database of ancestral towns and surnames
being researched by some 55,000 Jewish genealogists throughout the world
and the Consolidated Jewish Surname Index. He is publisher of Avotaynu,
the magazine of Jewish genealogy and past president of IAJGS.

The cost of the event is $10 for JGSG members, $15 for non-members.
Advance reservations can be made by mail to JGSG, PO Box 681022,
Marietta, GA 30068-0018. Please include a check and the number of
seats requested. Tickets may also be bought at the door. Non-members
may join the JGSG for a special price of $35, which includes membership
and event admission. For more information, visit www.JGSG.org or
contact Gary Landau at 770.977.1954.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Important update to February meeting of the JGS of Bergen County #general

Edward Rosenbaum <erosenbaum@...>
 

The 12:30 schmooze session at the offices of Avotaynu have been *cancelled*
for this month. Our regular meeting will begin at 2pm at the library at the
JCC on the Palisades.

Thank you very much.

Edward Rosenbaum
President, JGS of Bergen County, New Jersey
(http://erosenbaum.netfirms.com/jgsbc)
email: erosenbaum@yahoo.com


Re: Joseph David (ZAK) EISENSTADT #rabbinic

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

On 2002-02-04, Carol Edan <caroled@netvision.net.il> wrote:

After an afternoon of research at the Bar Ilan Judaica library,
I have learned that the connection between Rabbi David, ABD
Novogrodok, and Rabbi Yosef David EIZENSTADT, ABD of Mir was not
through family. There was however a friendship between the two
famous rabbis. [...]
I also followed the reference numbers in Oatzar HaRabanim for Moshe
EIZENSTADT, ABD Kletsk, and realized that I was off the track.
According to Geo. Sackheim, Joseph David's original surname was ZAK.

Lineage-- MaHaRam Esh/Michael/Moses/Malka.
Malka married R' Joseph David (TUC p383)
Joseph David was surnamed EISENSTADT after his father-in-law.
(TUC p383).
His original surname was ZAK.
[Source: George Sackheim, ltr. 25 May 1995]
--
<koosh@att.net>
Bernard Israelite Kouchel


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Joseph David (ZAK) EISENSTADT #rabbinic

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

On 2002-02-04, Carol Edan <caroled@netvision.net.il> wrote:

After an afternoon of research at the Bar Ilan Judaica library,
I have learned that the connection between Rabbi David, ABD
Novogrodok, and Rabbi Yosef David EIZENSTADT, ABD of Mir was not
through family. There was however a friendship between the two
famous rabbis. [...]
I also followed the reference numbers in Oatzar HaRabanim for Moshe
EIZENSTADT, ABD Kletsk, and realized that I was off the track.
According to Geo. Sackheim, Joseph David's original surname was ZAK.

Lineage-- MaHaRam Esh/Michael/Moses/Malka.
Malka married R' Joseph David (TUC p383)
Joseph David was surnamed EISENSTADT after his father-in-law.
(TUC p383).
His original surname was ZAK.
[Source: George Sackheim, ltr. 25 May 1995]
--
<koosh@att.net>
Bernard Israelite Kouchel


Re: Jewish Census and Migration #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Yes, and that is fine. I did read your email etc .
1720 (18th Century), is after the departure of the
Turks, and some of your family is >from the Western
part of Hungary and even Burgenland,

Robert Neu
--- "Peter I. Hidas" <thidas@sympatico.ca> wrote:





on 2/4/02 6:19 PM, Robert Neu at roneu1@yahoo.com
wrote:

What documentation do you have that dates back to
the
1600's? Remember only the Burgenland and the
Slovakian
provinces were not under Turkish rule. It is also
believed that Jews who were there with thr Turks
left
with them specially after the Austrians liberated
Buda
and killed everyone who was there. In the same
vein
Jews that were there in 1526 either left or were
taken
to Turkey (though many came back later on.)
Jewish presence in Hungary goes back to the
Romans,
but with many in and ou, like the rest of Europe.

Also most did not use family names. Even in the
1828
Census I have found Jews only referred by one name
that looked more like a first name, also others
where
the last name if a first name.most probably the
father's first name.
Regards
Robert Neu
--- Wayne and Caroline McCullough
I have been able to reconstruct with the help of
archival resources an
outline of the history of the Sacher family of
Balassagyarmat and Losonc
from the 1720s.

Dr. Peter I. Hidas
thidas@sympatico.ca
peterhidas@yahoo.com

At my home page you can find some of my writings:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
For photographs go to
http://www.community.webshots.com/user/peterhidas


Re: Preselany,Slovakia #hungary

AttilaRona@...
 

Maybe it was misspelled. Preselany nad Ipfom was Pereszle'ny aka Hont.

Attila Rona


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Jewish Census and Migration #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Yes, and that is fine. I did read your email etc .
1720 (18th Century), is after the departure of the
Turks, and some of your family is >from the Western
part of Hungary and even Burgenland,

Robert Neu
--- "Peter I. Hidas" <thidas@sympatico.ca> wrote:





on 2/4/02 6:19 PM, Robert Neu at roneu1@yahoo.com
wrote:

What documentation do you have that dates back to
the
1600's? Remember only the Burgenland and the
Slovakian
provinces were not under Turkish rule. It is also
believed that Jews who were there with thr Turks
left
with them specially after the Austrians liberated
Buda
and killed everyone who was there. In the same
vein
Jews that were there in 1526 either left or were
taken
to Turkey (though many came back later on.)
Jewish presence in Hungary goes back to the
Romans,
but with many in and ou, like the rest of Europe.

Also most did not use family names. Even in the
1828
Census I have found Jews only referred by one name
that looked more like a first name, also others
where
the last name if a first name.most probably the
father's first name.
Regards
Robert Neu
--- Wayne and Caroline McCullough
I have been able to reconstruct with the help of
archival resources an
outline of the history of the Sacher family of
Balassagyarmat and Losonc
from the 1720s.

Dr. Peter I. Hidas
thidas@sympatico.ca
peterhidas@yahoo.com

At my home page you can find some of my writings:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
For photographs go to
http://www.community.webshots.com/user/peterhidas


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Preselany,Slovakia #hungary

AttilaRona@...
 

Maybe it was misspelled. Preselany nad Ipfom was Pereszle'ny aka Hont.

Attila Rona


SZIRMAY #hungary

Gary Gershfield <gmgkpc@...>
 

I was trying to find out if there is anyone out there,who is researching
or has any information on the Szirmay family >from Budapest.
The family was headed by a--Dr.Istvan (AKA--Ignatz)Szirmay,who was
a known chemist, electrical engineer,and professor,and died around
1939.There is no confirmation of his death.His wife was Berta Szirmay.
Thank you for any assistance.
Sincerely,
Gary Gershfield
Forest Hills,NY
Researching SZIRMAY >from Budapest


Hungary SIG #Hungary SZIRMAY #hungary

Gary Gershfield <gmgkpc@...>
 

I was trying to find out if there is anyone out there,who is researching
or has any information on the Szirmay family >from Budapest.
The family was headed by a--Dr.Istvan (AKA--Ignatz)Szirmay,who was
a known chemist, electrical engineer,and professor,and died around
1939.There is no confirmation of his death.His wife was Berta Szirmay.
Thank you for any assistance.
Sincerely,
Gary Gershfield
Forest Hills,NY
Researching SZIRMAY >from Budapest


Canadian Address #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

The following inquiry don't exactly fit the H-SIG, still I hope that
some of you might be have an answer to it.
Sometimes after the liberation, in Kattowitz or in Chernowitz camp, I
came across Popper Istvan, I was around fifteen he might have been in
his thirties. After Chernowitz we were transported in an other camp into
White Russia, near Minsk, the town and camp was called Sluzk (Primo Levi
referred to this camp in his books). Pista bacsi was quite clever and
practically minded, so he became publisher of the camp news. So he
organized for the publishing team two separate rooms, where he, an
architect >from Budapest Szivo Pal, Lexi a POW or partisan, I can't say
and I moved. We were together until to our return to Hungary September
1945. We had more or less some contact in spite of I lived in
Bekescsaba and they in Budapest. 1956 all of us left the country, Szivo
Pali and I lived in Switzerland, having some loose contact with each
other, Popper Istvan or Steven moved to Canada. We had some contact, the
last card I found is >from 1957. The address on the card is, if I
properly decipher it is
Steven Popper
5240 V17N Horne Apr 4.
Montreal
In Budapest he lived on the Kiraly utca 67 or Majakovszki utca 67 on the
second or fourth floor. He was married and if I am correct had a
daughter and son. I tried the Canadian 411 on the Internet but didn't
found a direct lead resp. nobody in Montreal. Before I try in the Jewish
two weekly Uj Elet, I wanted to give a try in H-SIG, it could be that
some of you came across him or his family

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch


Hungary SIG #Hungary Canadian Address #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

The following inquiry don't exactly fit the H-SIG, still I hope that
some of you might be have an answer to it.
Sometimes after the liberation, in Kattowitz or in Chernowitz camp, I
came across Popper Istvan, I was around fifteen he might have been in
his thirties. After Chernowitz we were transported in an other camp into
White Russia, near Minsk, the town and camp was called Sluzk (Primo Levi
referred to this camp in his books). Pista bacsi was quite clever and
practically minded, so he became publisher of the camp news. So he
organized for the publishing team two separate rooms, where he, an
architect >from Budapest Szivo Pal, Lexi a POW or partisan, I can't say
and I moved. We were together until to our return to Hungary September
1945. We had more or less some contact in spite of I lived in
Bekescsaba and they in Budapest. 1956 all of us left the country, Szivo
Pali and I lived in Switzerland, having some loose contact with each
other, Popper Istvan or Steven moved to Canada. We had some contact, the
last card I found is >from 1957. The address on the card is, if I
properly decipher it is
Steven Popper
5240 V17N Horne Apr 4.
Montreal
In Budapest he lived on the Kiraly utca 67 or Majakovszki utca 67 on the
second or fourth floor. He was married and if I am correct had a
daughter and son. I tried the Canadian 411 on the Internet but didn't
found a direct lead resp. nobody in Montreal. Before I try in the Jewish
two weekly Uj Elet, I wanted to give a try in H-SIG, it could be that
some of you came across him or his family

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch