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Translation of Medical Term Needed #general

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

Greetings, Genners,

I have just received a death record, and would like to know what cause
of death was attributed to. The column heading is "Choroba i rodzaj
smierci" in what I assume is Polish, and "Krankheit und Todesart" in
German -- I'm assuming this is translated as "cause of death" or some
similar phrase. The term that is written in, as best as I can make it
out, is "Gruzlica". What might "Gruzlica" be?

TIA for your help.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation of Medical Term Needed #general

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

Greetings, Genners,

I have just received a death record, and would like to know what cause
of death was attributed to. The column heading is "Choroba i rodzaj
smierci" in what I assume is Polish, and "Krankheit und Todesart" in
German -- I'm assuming this is translated as "cause of death" or some
similar phrase. The term that is written in, as best as I can make it
out, is "Gruzlica". What might "Gruzlica" be?

TIA for your help.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA, USA


Re: What would be some nicknames form Menahem Mendel #general

Yeruchem & Fraida Cohen
 

Most of the Menachem Mendels I know (and I know many of them because I am
Chabad) are called Mendel or Mendy.

What would be some nicknames form Menahem Mendel?
Thanks
Ilya Petrovich Vasuki


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: What would be some nicknames form Menahem Mendel #general

Yeruchem & Fraida Cohen
 

Most of the Menachem Mendels I know (and I know many of them because I am
Chabad) are called Mendel or Mendy.

What would be some nicknames form Menahem Mendel?
Thanks
Ilya Petrovich Vasuki


Germany, Czech, Poland and Slovakia travel report #hungary

Tomer Brunner <tomerbr@...>
 

Dear friend,
During Sep 1st to Sep 25th I was traveling in Europe
in search of my roots. The following is a travel report which
I will try to make with less presonal details and more general
tips and ideas which can help anyone who planes to travel anywhere.

*********************************************************************
THOSE WHO DON'T WANT TO READ EVERYTHING ARE ADVISED TO READ AT LEAST
THE INTERESTING TIPS AND STORIES ABOUT THE TOWNS DUBIECKO AND ULANOW.
**********************************************************************

I mail this message to few SIGs eventhough few of the places mentioned are
not of interest to some of those SIGs but I'm sure that the tips and stories
are good for all, no matter what country.

***If anyone on this list can copy this message to the Galician Sig please
let me know ***

I visited the following places:
1) Czech rep.: Prague, Kolin, Brno, Rousinov.
2) Germany: Altenkunstadt, Burgkunstadt.
3) Poland: Krakow, Bochnia, Brzesko, Nowy Wisnicz, Uscie Solna, Wrzepia,
Dubiecko, Przemysl, Lezajsk, Lancut, Sieniawa, Ulanow, Rozwadow.
4) Slovakia: Kosice, Sobrance, Chonkovce, Konus, Tibava, Namestovo.


The goals of this travel were to continue my first trip, which I made 2
years ago
in Hungary, Slovakia, Czech and Austria.
In every place I was trying to find any jewish remains, like synagogue and
cemetery,
go over all the tombstones and looking not only for those of my relatives
but of all rabbis, Dayan,
Schochet, Mohel, More Zedek and other leaders of the community.
I also recorded stones with "Yichus", that means with details about the
ancestors
of the buried.

Documenting tombstones is not an easy task at all. even now, after
photographing
hundereds of them, I don't always get the results I wish. There are few
technics
of doing it. I hope that in the near future I will find the time to write
about that too.
Anyways, I first copied to a notebook the inscription and then (but not in
all cases)
I photographed the stone.

<snip>


SLOVAKIA:
~~~~~~~~~

Chonkovce + Konus + Tibava:
___________________________
this village is located NE to Sonrance, NE Slovakia.
I couldn't find anything jewish there and was told by local people that
the closest cemetery is located about 2 Km away in a village called Konus.
I went there and found, after a walk of few hundreds of meters in the field,
the jewish cemetery. Its in quite a good condition, has fence around it (not
locked)
and no vegetation problem. A woman >from the USA whose family burried there
is paying
someone to take care of it. there are 60 tombstones. the earliest dating
back to
around 1864.
There's another cemetery not far >from there in Tibava, next to the local
cristian one.

I'm not sure why, maybe because its so isolated or because I had time, I
DOCUMENTED
ALL STONES (those visible. except the ones lying with the face down) IN BOTH
CEMETERIES.

I didn't take photos of all the stones but have the inscription of all.
Will try to make it public asap.


Namestovo:
__________
located in the Tatra mountains in north Slovakia.
The town was boombed during WWII and also had been flooded in the
1950's after a dam was build. about 2 thirds of the town were flooded
as I heard. Again, after visiting the town hall I got great help and
went to the cemetery, which is found only few meters away >from the water
of the lake created by the dam.
Today there are few tens of stones, some date back to the 1860's.
Some stones can be found lying in the sand near the water.
When the water level in high the cemetery might be partly flooded.
Many of the stones are gone. either under water or stolen by local people
for buiding, as happen in *many* places.
The mayor (or Primator, as they call it) told me that some of the stones
were moved to Dolny Kubin.
Some of the names that can be found on the t-stones are:
Strauss, Schlesinger, Bronner, Gross, Steinberger, Koffler, Heller,
Ackersman, Schwartz, Stein, Grunwald and more that I can't remember.
_______


Another thing I did was to document, in every cemetery, the names of women
from the t-stones since many of them are not so common and not at all in use
today.
Unlike the male names which are usually quite known.

Well, hope you got good ideas.
In case of replies please mail me also at: tomertomer22@walla.co.il

GMAR CHATIMA TOVA,
Tomer Brunner, Israel

Moderator VK: I have deleted portions of this lengthy message that do not directly relate to the areas within the scope of the Hungarian SIG. If you would like more info about Tomer's trip, please contact him off-list.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Germany, Czech, Poland and Slovakia travel report #hungary

Tomer Brunner <tomerbr@...>
 

Dear friend,
During Sep 1st to Sep 25th I was traveling in Europe
in search of my roots. The following is a travel report which
I will try to make with less presonal details and more general
tips and ideas which can help anyone who planes to travel anywhere.

*********************************************************************
THOSE WHO DON'T WANT TO READ EVERYTHING ARE ADVISED TO READ AT LEAST
THE INTERESTING TIPS AND STORIES ABOUT THE TOWNS DUBIECKO AND ULANOW.
**********************************************************************

I mail this message to few SIGs eventhough few of the places mentioned are
not of interest to some of those SIGs but I'm sure that the tips and stories
are good for all, no matter what country.

***If anyone on this list can copy this message to the Galician Sig please
let me know ***

I visited the following places:
1) Czech rep.: Prague, Kolin, Brno, Rousinov.
2) Germany: Altenkunstadt, Burgkunstadt.
3) Poland: Krakow, Bochnia, Brzesko, Nowy Wisnicz, Uscie Solna, Wrzepia,
Dubiecko, Przemysl, Lezajsk, Lancut, Sieniawa, Ulanow, Rozwadow.
4) Slovakia: Kosice, Sobrance, Chonkovce, Konus, Tibava, Namestovo.


The goals of this travel were to continue my first trip, which I made 2
years ago
in Hungary, Slovakia, Czech and Austria.
In every place I was trying to find any jewish remains, like synagogue and
cemetery,
go over all the tombstones and looking not only for those of my relatives
but of all rabbis, Dayan,
Schochet, Mohel, More Zedek and other leaders of the community.
I also recorded stones with "Yichus", that means with details about the
ancestors
of the buried.

Documenting tombstones is not an easy task at all. even now, after
photographing
hundereds of them, I don't always get the results I wish. There are few
technics
of doing it. I hope that in the near future I will find the time to write
about that too.
Anyways, I first copied to a notebook the inscription and then (but not in
all cases)
I photographed the stone.

<snip>


SLOVAKIA:
~~~~~~~~~

Chonkovce + Konus + Tibava:
___________________________
this village is located NE to Sonrance, NE Slovakia.
I couldn't find anything jewish there and was told by local people that
the closest cemetery is located about 2 Km away in a village called Konus.
I went there and found, after a walk of few hundreds of meters in the field,
the jewish cemetery. Its in quite a good condition, has fence around it (not
locked)
and no vegetation problem. A woman >from the USA whose family burried there
is paying
someone to take care of it. there are 60 tombstones. the earliest dating
back to
around 1864.
There's another cemetery not far >from there in Tibava, next to the local
cristian one.

I'm not sure why, maybe because its so isolated or because I had time, I
DOCUMENTED
ALL STONES (those visible. except the ones lying with the face down) IN BOTH
CEMETERIES.

I didn't take photos of all the stones but have the inscription of all.
Will try to make it public asap.


Namestovo:
__________
located in the Tatra mountains in north Slovakia.
The town was boombed during WWII and also had been flooded in the
1950's after a dam was build. about 2 thirds of the town were flooded
as I heard. Again, after visiting the town hall I got great help and
went to the cemetery, which is found only few meters away >from the water
of the lake created by the dam.
Today there are few tens of stones, some date back to the 1860's.
Some stones can be found lying in the sand near the water.
When the water level in high the cemetery might be partly flooded.
Many of the stones are gone. either under water or stolen by local people
for buiding, as happen in *many* places.
The mayor (or Primator, as they call it) told me that some of the stones
were moved to Dolny Kubin.
Some of the names that can be found on the t-stones are:
Strauss, Schlesinger, Bronner, Gross, Steinberger, Koffler, Heller,
Ackersman, Schwartz, Stein, Grunwald and more that I can't remember.
_______


Another thing I did was to document, in every cemetery, the names of women
from the t-stones since many of them are not so common and not at all in use
today.
Unlike the male names which are usually quite known.

Well, hope you got good ideas.
In case of replies please mail me also at: tomertomer22@walla.co.il

GMAR CHATIMA TOVA,
Tomer Brunner, Israel

Moderator VK: I have deleted portions of this lengthy message that do not directly relate to the areas within the scope of the Hungarian SIG. If you would like more info about Tomer's trip, please contact him off-list.


Re: NEW BOOK "When Angels Fooled the World" #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

Dear Steven,

yes, he has been named as one of the Righteous Gentiles.


As far as I know, there is a second Hungarian Evangelical pastor who hes
been named as one of the Righteous Gentiles, he has hidden one or two Jewish
person-s under the pulpit in the Lutheran Church at Deak Ter in Pest. I can't
remember offhand his name.


By the way, if you go to the Internet, there is quite a lot available on the
subject of Gabor Stehlo. Various WEB sites and Book published in both
Hungarian as well as English.

Leslie Eloed
California


Re: Shana Tovah! #bessarabia

Eloedfamily@...
 

Thank you, with best wishes to you and the staff and all helpers,

Leslie Eloed


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: NEW BOOK "When Angels Fooled the World" #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

Dear Steven,

yes, he has been named as one of the Righteous Gentiles.


As far as I know, there is a second Hungarian Evangelical pastor who hes
been named as one of the Righteous Gentiles, he has hidden one or two Jewish
person-s under the pulpit in the Lutheran Church at Deak Ter in Pest. I can't
remember offhand his name.


By the way, if you go to the Internet, there is quite a lot available on the
subject of Gabor Stehlo. Various WEB sites and Book published in both
Hungarian as well as English.

Leslie Eloed
California


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Shana Tovah! #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

Thank you, with best wishes to you and the staff and all helpers,

Leslie Eloed


Assistance Identifying Hungarian Given Name #hungary

bhi cc <bhicc@...>
 

Hi H-Siggers,

I'm trying to identify a relative's given name >from a
(handwritten) passenger ship record. It appears to
be:

Bertalari or Bertalan

The initial letter could be a "D" or an "N", rather
than a B.

Any assistance would be appreciated

Thanks,

Jonathan Horn

Moderator VK: Bertalan is the Hungarian version of the name Bartholomew. Hungarian nicknames are Bertus and Bertuska.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Assistance Identifying Hungarian Given Name #hungary

bhi cc <bhicc@...>
 

Hi H-Siggers,

I'm trying to identify a relative's given name >from a
(handwritten) passenger ship record. It appears to
be:

Bertalari or Bertalan

The initial letter could be a "D" or an "N", rather
than a B.

Any assistance would be appreciated

Thanks,

Jonathan Horn

Moderator VK: Bertalan is the Hungarian version of the name Bartholomew. Hungarian nicknames are Bertus and Bertuska.


KARZ from Krakow region #galicia

karz_galicia@...
 

Hello,

we are new to this list.
We are researching the KARZ family >from the Krakow region. Unfortunately we
know so little about our anchestor Max KARZ and his family. Max was born
about 1890 in a town near Krakow and after World War I expelled to Romania
(Transylvania), where he settled down and had 3 children (two of them emigrated
later to Germany). >from 1940 until Sept. 1944 he was arrested in Concentration
Camp Tirgu Jiu/Romania. He died in 1946. There are rumours that he had at least
2 brothers and perhaps a sister, who stayed near Krakow. One of his brothers
had a warehouse or shop in Krakow or near Krakow. We are wondering if anyone
knows perhaps something about KARZ families who lived near Krakow or
somewhere else in this region. Every help is appreciated.

Regards Almut Reimer
Stuttgart, Germany
mailto:karz_galicia@gmx.net


Re: From Stropkov to Jerusalem #hungary

Avraham <avrofek@...>
 

Hi Al,
I'm sorry that I don't have any more information now than I did when I
posted those questions.
Happy new year,
Avraham

----- Original Message -----
From: "alex p miller" <alex-miller@juno.com>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: 23 September 2003 2:26 PM
Subject: [h-sig] Re: >from Stropkov to Jerusalem


My GGM came to (then Turkish/Ottoman) Jerusalem in 1907 to die.
1)Would she have needed a Hungarian/Austrian passport or other
travel > document?
Shalom Avi,

Did you ever get an answer to this question? I often wondered about this,
what where the regulations for travel prior to 1914!

The MOrmons have films on passports of Austrian subjects, but there is no
sorting of any kind and is not by religion. So it is a r e a l
haystack

Best Regards,

Alex Miller, Reading, PA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia KARZ from Krakow region #galicia

karz_galicia@...
 

Hello,

we are new to this list.
We are researching the KARZ family >from the Krakow region. Unfortunately we
know so little about our anchestor Max KARZ and his family. Max was born
about 1890 in a town near Krakow and after World War I expelled to Romania
(Transylvania), where he settled down and had 3 children (two of them emigrated
later to Germany). >from 1940 until Sept. 1944 he was arrested in Concentration
Camp Tirgu Jiu/Romania. He died in 1946. There are rumours that he had at least
2 brothers and perhaps a sister, who stayed near Krakow. One of his brothers
had a warehouse or shop in Krakow or near Krakow. We are wondering if anyone
knows perhaps something about KARZ families who lived near Krakow or
somewhere else in this region. Every help is appreciated.

Regards Almut Reimer
Stuttgart, Germany
mailto:karz_galicia@gmx.net


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: From Stropkov to Jerusalem #hungary

Avraham <avrofek@...>
 

Hi Al,
I'm sorry that I don't have any more information now than I did when I
posted those questions.
Happy new year,
Avraham

----- Original Message -----
From: "alex p miller" <alex-miller@juno.com>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: 23 September 2003 2:26 PM
Subject: [h-sig] Re: >from Stropkov to Jerusalem


My GGM came to (then Turkish/Ottoman) Jerusalem in 1907 to die.
1)Would she have needed a Hungarian/Austrian passport or other
travel > document?
Shalom Avi,

Did you ever get an answer to this question? I often wondered about this,
what where the regulations for travel prior to 1914!

The MOrmons have films on passports of Austrian subjects, but there is no
sorting of any kind and is not by religion. So it is a r e a l
haystack

Best Regards,

Alex Miller, Reading, PA


Re: Kernkraut & Trinidad #galicia

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 10/1/03 10:53:35 AM, Judy Kernkraut Kasman (
family@kasman.com) writes:

<< I'm researching the family of my late father, Samuel Kernkraut, who was
born
in Oswiecim in 1905. Their father was Asher Zelig. Samuel and three
brothers, Charles, Max and Israel (there was a 5th brother, name unknown to
me), moved to Trinidad in the (late?) 1930s where they lived until 1949.
My father and Max came to Toronto, Charles and Israel moved to New York.
My father married my mother (a Litvak!) in Toronto in 1950. Since my father
died in 1961 and no brothers remain alive, I don't know a lot about their
early years. I'm wondering if anyone knows about these Kernkrauts and/or
other Galicianers who left Poland for Trinidad.

Regards, Judy (Kernkraut) Kasman
Toronto, Ontario, Canada

>>

There is some information about the history of Trinidad Jews, especially
those who fled Hitler during the 1930's at:


http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/atl-caribbean/trintob.html

A little more information about Trinidad Jews can also be found by scrolling
down the page at:

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/4952/Caribbean.htm

A descripion of a documentary film entitled "Oskar and Jack" about twins
born of German woman and a Romanian-Jewish man, one of which twins went with his
father to Trinidad during the 1930s, while the other stayed with his mother
and became a member of the Hitler Youth, can be read at:

http://members.aol.com/jewfilm/jewo.html

I did a cursory seach for "KERNKRAUT" at the JRI-PL website (Jewish Records
Indexing Project-Poland, I used the Daitch Mokotoff soundex utility for the
search. There was no listing for Oswiecim, but Ms, Kasman may want to try this
search herself for KERNKRAUT or for any alternative soundex spellings this name
at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~jripllat

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.

[MODERATOR NOTE: further discussion of Trinidad should continue in private]


Budapest Marriage Records #hungary

Kathy Silbert-Sanders <kathyleigh26@...>
 

I didn't know that the LDS library had marriage records >from Budapest. How
does one access them?

:) Kathy

Moderator VK: I took the liberty of changing the subject line for this message to describe the content of the message. Check the on-line FHL catalog at http://www.familysearch.org or visit a local branch of the FHL to find out if the records you are seeking have been filmed. You are more likely to receive an answer to your question if you can provide more specific information about the years you are searching.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Kernkraut & Trinidad #galicia

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 10/1/03 10:53:35 AM, Judy Kernkraut Kasman (
family@kasman.com) writes:

<< I'm researching the family of my late father, Samuel Kernkraut, who was
born
in Oswiecim in 1905. Their father was Asher Zelig. Samuel and three
brothers, Charles, Max and Israel (there was a 5th brother, name unknown to
me), moved to Trinidad in the (late?) 1930s where they lived until 1949.
My father and Max came to Toronto, Charles and Israel moved to New York.
My father married my mother (a Litvak!) in Toronto in 1950. Since my father
died in 1961 and no brothers remain alive, I don't know a lot about their
early years. I'm wondering if anyone knows about these Kernkrauts and/or
other Galicianers who left Poland for Trinidad.

Regards, Judy (Kernkraut) Kasman
Toronto, Ontario, Canada

>>

There is some information about the history of Trinidad Jews, especially
those who fled Hitler during the 1930's at:


http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/atl-caribbean/trintob.html

A little more information about Trinidad Jews can also be found by scrolling
down the page at:

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/4952/Caribbean.htm

A descripion of a documentary film entitled "Oskar and Jack" about twins
born of German woman and a Romanian-Jewish man, one of which twins went with his
father to Trinidad during the 1930s, while the other stayed with his mother
and became a member of the Hitler Youth, can be read at:

http://members.aol.com/jewfilm/jewo.html

I did a cursory seach for "KERNKRAUT" at the JRI-PL website (Jewish Records
Indexing Project-Poland, I used the Daitch Mokotoff soundex utility for the
search. There was no listing for Oswiecim, but Ms, Kasman may want to try this
search herself for KERNKRAUT or for any alternative soundex spellings this name
at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~jripllat

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.

[MODERATOR NOTE: further discussion of Trinidad should continue in private]


Hungary SIG #Hungary Budapest Marriage Records #hungary

Kathy Silbert-Sanders <kathyleigh26@...>
 

I didn't know that the LDS library had marriage records >from Budapest. How
does one access them?

:) Kathy

Moderator VK: I took the liberty of changing the subject line for this message to describe the content of the message. Check the on-line FHL catalog at http://www.familysearch.org or visit a local branch of the FHL to find out if the records you are seeking have been filmed. You are more likely to receive an answer to your question if you can provide more specific information about the years you are searching.