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Re: Nafteli #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

the name is >from the bible (gen. 30:7-8: "And Bilhah Rachel's handmaid conceived again, and bore Jacob a second son. And Rachel said: 'With mighty wrestlings have I wrestled with my sister, and have prevailed.' And she called his name Naphtali.").

but it would help to know the time and place. most of my family had hungarian names that were quite different >from their hebrew names, probably starting at around the time of the emancipation. so the birth records might provide some clues. otherwise, there is no way to guess what name they might have used, except that it might have been something with a similar sound, like "nat" or "phil". but it could just as easily have been "abe" or "zoltan".


....... tom klein, toronto

Bobby Jacobs <bobj2361@acninc.net> wrote:

Nafteli is the first name of several members of my family. I assume this
is a German name, but I'm not sure. Any idea what the American name for
this would be?


A GUIDE TO JEWISH GENEALOGY IN LITHUANIA #southafrica

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Great Britain announces

A GUIDE TO JEWISH GENEALOGY IN LITHUANIA

ISBN: 0-9537669-8-5 (140 pages p/b)

By: SAM AARON

"Genealogical research in Lithuania is often difficult because so many of
the old records >from Czarist times (1794 to 1917) were lost or destroyed.
Here is a practical guide that will tell you what types of records there
were, which have survived for each of the three provinces that Lithuania was
divided into, how to access them, and what information you can expect to
find.

Archives often take a long time to reply to researchers because of the large
number of enquiries they receive. The guide describes the large amount of
information that can be directly accessed in on-line databases, or in
databases which are made available by e-mail to subscribers, and provides an
up-to-date list of all these resources, and should help you make quicker
progress with your researches.

For beginners, the Guide explains how to identify your ancestral shtetl (the
small town in which Jews were obliged to live), how to start off your
research, and eventually find information on your ancestors. Included are
also suggestions as to where you can look for clues to your ancestors in UK,
USA, Israeli and South African records. The latter section should be useful
also to those researching their roots in Eastern European countries other
than Lithuania". The Guide includes a full list of original town names with
their current equivalents, and a map showing the location of approximately
150 of these.

Price: £5.95 plus postage (UK 80p, Europe £2.00, rest of world £3.00.This is
$16 at current exchange rates].

Orders to:

JGSGB Publications
PO Box 180
St. Albans
Herts AL2 3WH
United Kingdom

Publications@jgsgb.org.uk

www.jgsgb.org.uk

Payment by cheques with orders payable to 'Jewish Genealogical Society of
Great
Britain' or credit card giving:
Name as shown on card, Card number, Expiry date
Address where guide to be sent and if possible e-mail address in case of any
queries.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Nafteli #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

the name is >from the bible (gen. 30:7-8: "And Bilhah Rachel's handmaid conceived again, and bore Jacob a second son. And Rachel said: 'With mighty wrestlings have I wrestled with my sister, and have prevailed.' And she called his name Naphtali.").

but it would help to know the time and place. most of my family had hungarian names that were quite different >from their hebrew names, probably starting at around the time of the emancipation. so the birth records might provide some clues. otherwise, there is no way to guess what name they might have used, except that it might have been something with a similar sound, like "nat" or "phil". but it could just as easily have been "abe" or "zoltan".


....... tom klein, toronto

Bobby Jacobs <bobj2361@acninc.net> wrote:

Nafteli is the first name of several members of my family. I assume this
is a German name, but I'm not sure. Any idea what the American name for
this would be?


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica A GUIDE TO JEWISH GENEALOGY IN LITHUANIA #southafrica

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Great Britain announces

A GUIDE TO JEWISH GENEALOGY IN LITHUANIA

ISBN: 0-9537669-8-5 (140 pages p/b)

By: SAM AARON

"Genealogical research in Lithuania is often difficult because so many of
the old records >from Czarist times (1794 to 1917) were lost or destroyed.
Here is a practical guide that will tell you what types of records there
were, which have survived for each of the three provinces that Lithuania was
divided into, how to access them, and what information you can expect to
find.

Archives often take a long time to reply to researchers because of the large
number of enquiries they receive. The guide describes the large amount of
information that can be directly accessed in on-line databases, or in
databases which are made available by e-mail to subscribers, and provides an
up-to-date list of all these resources, and should help you make quicker
progress with your researches.

For beginners, the Guide explains how to identify your ancestral shtetl (the
small town in which Jews were obliged to live), how to start off your
research, and eventually find information on your ancestors. Included are
also suggestions as to where you can look for clues to your ancestors in UK,
USA, Israeli and South African records. The latter section should be useful
also to those researching their roots in Eastern European countries other
than Lithuania". The Guide includes a full list of original town names with
their current equivalents, and a map showing the location of approximately
150 of these.

Price: £5.95 plus postage (UK 80p, Europe £2.00, rest of world £3.00.This is
$16 at current exchange rates].

Orders to:

JGSGB Publications
PO Box 180
St. Albans
Herts AL2 3WH
United Kingdom

Publications@jgsgb.org.uk

www.jgsgb.org.uk

Payment by cheques with orders payable to 'Jewish Genealogical Society of
Great
Britain' or credit card giving:
Name as shown on card, Card number, Expiry date
Address where guide to be sent and if possible e-mail address in case of any
queries.


Re: Nafteli #hungary

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

Nafteli is the first name of several members of my family. I assume
this is a German name, but I'm not sure. Any idea what the American
name for this would be?
Naftali is a common Hebrew given name. The source of the name
is biblical (Genesis 30:8), being the name of one of the twelve sons
of Jacob (Israel) - one of the twelve tribes of Israel.

In terms of Americanizations of Hebrew names, especially in earlier
generations - there are no immutable rules. Often an English name
which started with the same consonant was used. In the present
instance, names like "Norman" or "Nathan" might have been used.
Then again, many times there is seemingly no correlation
whatsoever between a chosen English name and the original
Hebrew or Yiddish given name. Sometimes, the degree to which
the family was traditional is a factor.

Hope this helps,

Moshe Davis
Jerusalem


NY State Record Access #general

A. E. Jordan
 

Does anyone have any ideas on how I can get around NY State rules and
get some information an a former resident at the Rome State School? I
tried the front door ? i.e. writing to the Central New York
Developmental Services Office ? and they are refusing me any
information.

I know that one of the family members ? Gussie Cohen ? was born in the
1890s and she was sent away in the 1920s to a home because she was
developmentally disabled. When I searched the 1930 Census I found a
Gussie Cohen about the right age listed as being at Rome State School.

Over a year ago I wrote to them asking if they could confirm if the
Gussie Cohen at the school in 1930 was the daughter of Goodman and
Jennie Cohen and if so could they tell me if she had died at the school
or if left the school at some point after 1930. It took them a year to
write me back and ask for more information. I replied with copies of
her birth certificate, explaining her relationship and the interest in
knowing what happened to her. It took months and they wrote back and
said NY State law forbid them >from releasing medical information. I
wrote back and said I did not want medical information and they came
right back to me saying no because of NY law.

So am I totally out of luck? Any other way to get information if the
State refuses me everything?

Thanks for any thoughts/experience anyone else can suggest.

Allan Jordan


Piotrkow and Radom Gubernia #general

TE <tome1111@...>
 

Would anyone happen to have a list of all the towns in
Piotrkow Gubernia,Radom Gubernia, and Lodz Gubernia prior to 1920.

Thanks,
Tom Erribe
CA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Nafteli #hungary

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

Nafteli is the first name of several members of my family. I assume
this is a German name, but I'm not sure. Any idea what the American
name for this would be?
Naftali is a common Hebrew given name. The source of the name
is biblical (Genesis 30:8), being the name of one of the twelve sons
of Jacob (Israel) - one of the twelve tribes of Israel.

In terms of Americanizations of Hebrew names, especially in earlier
generations - there are no immutable rules. Often an English name
which started with the same consonant was used. In the present
instance, names like "Norman" or "Nathan" might have been used.
Then again, many times there is seemingly no correlation
whatsoever between a chosen English name and the original
Hebrew or Yiddish given name. Sometimes, the degree to which
the family was traditional is a factor.

Hope this helps,

Moshe Davis
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NY State Record Access #general

A. E. Jordan
 

Does anyone have any ideas on how I can get around NY State rules and
get some information an a former resident at the Rome State School? I
tried the front door ? i.e. writing to the Central New York
Developmental Services Office ? and they are refusing me any
information.

I know that one of the family members ? Gussie Cohen ? was born in the
1890s and she was sent away in the 1920s to a home because she was
developmentally disabled. When I searched the 1930 Census I found a
Gussie Cohen about the right age listed as being at Rome State School.

Over a year ago I wrote to them asking if they could confirm if the
Gussie Cohen at the school in 1930 was the daughter of Goodman and
Jennie Cohen and if so could they tell me if she had died at the school
or if left the school at some point after 1930. It took them a year to
write me back and ask for more information. I replied with copies of
her birth certificate, explaining her relationship and the interest in
knowing what happened to her. It took months and they wrote back and
said NY State law forbid them >from releasing medical information. I
wrote back and said I did not want medical information and they came
right back to me saying no because of NY law.

So am I totally out of luck? Any other way to get information if the
State refuses me everything?

Thanks for any thoughts/experience anyone else can suggest.

Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Piotrkow and Radom Gubernia #general

TE <tome1111@...>
 

Would anyone happen to have a list of all the towns in
Piotrkow Gubernia,Radom Gubernia, and Lodz Gubernia prior to 1920.

Thanks,
Tom Erribe
CA


Lachowicze/ Lyakhovichi #belarus

Krystyna Duszniak <losthistories@...>
 

I wonder if anyone can help with suggestions about where to locate Jewish
birth records >from the 1920s >from Lachowicze, today Lyakhovichi in the
Baranowicze region. I imagine they are in the local town hall archives
(ZAGS office) but am having enormous difficulty locating a number or
address for them.
Any assistance would be very much appreciated.

regards,

Krystyna Duszniak
Lost Histories
409 Inkerman Street
East St Kilda Victoria 3183
Australia
ph./fax +613 95072552
losthistories@optusnet.com.au
www.losthistories.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Lachowicze/ Lyakhovichi #belarus

Krystyna Duszniak <losthistories@...>
 

I wonder if anyone can help with suggestions about where to locate Jewish
birth records >from the 1920s >from Lachowicze, today Lyakhovichi in the
Baranowicze region. I imagine they are in the local town hall archives
(ZAGS office) but am having enormous difficulty locating a number or
address for them.
Any assistance would be very much appreciated.

regards,

Krystyna Duszniak
Lost Histories
409 Inkerman Street
East St Kilda Victoria 3183
Australia
ph./fax +613 95072552
losthistories@optusnet.com.au
www.losthistories.com


the given name Naftel or Naftalij #latvia

Susan Meehan <smeehan@...>
 

I've been researching information on my grandfather, known to the
family as John BERGMAN, born in Riga, 1867. Under the Riga Tax
Administration List of JewishGen, I have found what certainly are his
parents and brothers and sisters. There is a name, Naftel or Naftalij
BERGMANN, which in every respect other than the first name corresponds
to my grandfather; I believe this person is, in fact, my grandfather.
I always assumed that my grandfather changed his first name to be more
American, just as he took off the final N on our last name. But I can
find no name of Naftel or Naftalij in JewishGen's given name finder.
Is it a Yiddish-Latvian variant? I know we're working with translating
from Cyrillic into Roman letters, and that accounts for some
strangenesses within this list, of course. But I am stumped with this
interesting first name.
Any suggestions you may have would be appreciated!

Susan Bergman Meehan
Washington, DC


I found the origin of Naftali - won't need the group's help! #latvia

Susan Meehan <smeehan@...>
 

Thanks to a second review of how the JewishGen Given name finder works,
I found the meaning of my grandfather's apparent given name, Naftali
and don't need to trouble other members of the Discussion forum with
this question. It sure doesn't sound like John - which I guess we can
call his Immigration Name!

Thanks very much

Susan Bergman Meehan
Washington, DC


Latvia SIG #Latvia the given name Naftel or Naftalij #latvia

Susan Meehan <smeehan@...>
 

I've been researching information on my grandfather, known to the
family as John BERGMAN, born in Riga, 1867. Under the Riga Tax
Administration List of JewishGen, I have found what certainly are his
parents and brothers and sisters. There is a name, Naftel or Naftalij
BERGMANN, which in every respect other than the first name corresponds
to my grandfather; I believe this person is, in fact, my grandfather.
I always assumed that my grandfather changed his first name to be more
American, just as he took off the final N on our last name. But I can
find no name of Naftel or Naftalij in JewishGen's given name finder.
Is it a Yiddish-Latvian variant? I know we're working with translating
from Cyrillic into Roman letters, and that accounts for some
strangenesses within this list, of course. But I am stumped with this
interesting first name.
Any suggestions you may have would be appreciated!

Susan Bergman Meehan
Washington, DC


Latvia SIG #Latvia I found the origin of Naftali - won't need the group's help! #latvia

Susan Meehan <smeehan@...>
 

Thanks to a second review of how the JewishGen Given name finder works,
I found the meaning of my grandfather's apparent given name, Naftali
and don't need to trouble other members of the Discussion forum with
this question. It sure doesn't sound like John - which I guess we can
call his Immigration Name!

Thanks very much

Susan Bergman Meehan
Washington, DC


Posen book by Max Kollenscher #germany

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

"Juedisches aus der deutsch-polnischen uebergangszeit; Posen 1918-1920," by
Max Kollensher (Berlin, "Ewer" buchhandlung, H. Werner, 1925), is available
on the Digital Library of Wielkopolska's website:

http://www.wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=12781

To view it, click on "Content" on the left, below "Publication," and follow
the instructions (if presented) to download the DjVu plugin, if you are a Windows
or Linux user.

If you are a Macintosh OS X (or higher) user, instead download the DjVu
plugin from:

http://www.lizardtech.com/download/dl_download.php?detail=doc_djvu_plugin&pl
atform=macx

Clicking on "Content" subsequently will present you with an
option to "Browse" the publication or will take you directly to it.
(Internet Explorer recommended; some problems reported with FireFox.)

If you are knowledgeable about Posen (I am not) and believe it would be of
significant benefit to have a searchable version of this book, please
contact me privately. Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu near Washington, D.C.


German SIG #Germany Posen book by Max Kollenscher #germany

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

"Juedisches aus der deutsch-polnischen uebergangszeit; Posen 1918-1920," by
Max Kollensher (Berlin, "Ewer" buchhandlung, H. Werner, 1925), is available
on the Digital Library of Wielkopolska's website:

http://www.wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=12781

To view it, click on "Content" on the left, below "Publication," and follow
the instructions (if presented) to download the DjVu plugin, if you are a Windows
or Linux user.

If you are a Macintosh OS X (or higher) user, instead download the DjVu
plugin from:

http://www.lizardtech.com/download/dl_download.php?detail=doc_djvu_plugin&pl
atform=macx

Clicking on "Content" subsequently will present you with an
option to "Browse" the publication or will take you directly to it.
(Internet Explorer recommended; some problems reported with FireFox.)

If you are knowledgeable about Posen (I am not) and believe it would be of
significant benefit to have a searchable version of this book, please
contact me privately. Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu near Washington, D.C.


Re: INTRO- researching ABRAHAM family from Baden early 19th Century #germany

m leonards <m_leonards@...>
 

Rebecca Stoneham is seeking information about her gg-grandfather Israel
(Ira) ABRAHAM, born 1838 in Baden.

I checked the on-line index to the Baden Emigration indexes:

http://auswanderer2.lad-bw.de/auswanderer/deutsch/index.htm

There's no Israel ABRAHAM, but I did find an Abraham ISRAEL, born 23 April
1838, who left for North America in 1854. He was born in (Ort)
Strümpfelbrunn, Gde. Waldbrunn, MOS, and his emigration papers were filed at
(Amt) Eberbach.

I believe the actual emigration papers, which contain much more information, have
been filmed by the LDS Family History Library. Perhaps someone more experienced
with these lists can assist Ms. Stoneham. (I have no family >from Baden.)

Monica Leonards suburban Philadelphia <m_leonards@hotmail.com>


German SIG #Germany RE: INTRO- researching ABRAHAM family from Baden early 19th Century #germany

m leonards <m_leonards@...>
 

Rebecca Stoneham is seeking information about her gg-grandfather Israel
(Ira) ABRAHAM, born 1838 in Baden.

I checked the on-line index to the Baden Emigration indexes:

http://auswanderer2.lad-bw.de/auswanderer/deutsch/index.htm

There's no Israel ABRAHAM, but I did find an Abraham ISRAEL, born 23 April
1838, who left for North America in 1854. He was born in (Ort)
Strümpfelbrunn, Gde. Waldbrunn, MOS, and his emigration papers were filed at
(Amt) Eberbach.

I believe the actual emigration papers, which contain much more information, have
been filmed by the LDS Family History Library. Perhaps someone more experienced
with these lists can assist Ms. Stoneham. (I have no family >from Baden.)

Monica Leonards suburban Philadelphia <m_leonards@hotmail.com>