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Re: ROTHSCHILD a name where and how ? #general

Elsebeth P <jgsdk_ep@...>
 

At 01:20 10-02-2006, Judy wrote: ... snip...During my research I have found
that the name sprung up in many different areas before the famous
ROTHSCHILD'S even thought of the name. ... snip ... So does anybody have
any ideas or suggestions as to what was on the red shield sign) and isn't
this before the time that surnames came about in Germany.
Dear Judy,
I can tell you about the Danish ROTHSHILDs.
A man - his name is unkonwn! - who lived in Karge-Unruhstadt (which in the
sources are said to be located "where Brandenburg, Posen and Schlesien
meets") had at least 5 children (mentioned in a will).
One was Elias who immigrated to Denmark in 1773 together with his nephew
Israel (son of Leb/Loeb).
Elias settled in Maribo (on the island Lolland) in 1773 and Israel stayed
and worked with him until
1780, when Israel moved to Roskilde (a Danish town not far >from Copenhagen).
Elias was known as Elias MARIBO/MARIBOE and Israel was known as Israel
ROSKILDE/ROESKILDE but very soon the name was written ROTHSCHILD -
presumably because of Israel's German pronounciation!?
So we have had many ROTHSHILDs in Denmark (as well as MARIBOES), and
as far as I know none of them were related to the later famous ROTHSHILDs.
So there weren't any red shields in this story ...
Best regards

Elsebeth Paikin, President
Jewish Genealogical Society of Denmark:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-denmark/
&
SIG Coordinator and webmaster:
JewishGen's Scandinavia SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/scandinavia/
mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk


Re: ROTHSCHILD a name where and how ? #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Judy wrote on 10 feb 2006 in soc.genealogy.jewish:
ROTHSCHILD
So does anybody
have any ideas or suggestions as to what was on the red shield sign)
In that time many people where analphabetic and the signs of cafes and
shops had to be visual. Itinerant painters were ordered to make a name into
a visual display.

A famous one was a London smitty, later inn, named "The Infante od
Castille" [baby Isabella, I believe, later wife of Ferdinand of Aragon]
which was vulgated to "Elephant and Castle", so the shield shows/showed an
Elephant and a Castle Keep.

I believe colours were also part of the visual image, so being the
establishment with a red sign hanging outside in the Frankfurter Jüdengasse
had a good business appeal.

The best historical link I found here:

<http://www.rothschildarchive.org/ib/?doc=/ib/articles/data_faq_redshield>

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: ROTHSCHILD a name where and how ? #general

Elsebeth P <jgsdk_ep@...>
 

At 01:20 10-02-2006, Judy wrote: ... snip...During my research I have found
that the name sprung up in many different areas before the famous
ROTHSCHILD'S even thought of the name. ... snip ... So does anybody have
any ideas or suggestions as to what was on the red shield sign) and isn't
this before the time that surnames came about in Germany.
Dear Judy,
I can tell you about the Danish ROTHSHILDs.
A man - his name is unkonwn! - who lived in Karge-Unruhstadt (which in the
sources are said to be located "where Brandenburg, Posen and Schlesien
meets") had at least 5 children (mentioned in a will).
One was Elias who immigrated to Denmark in 1773 together with his nephew
Israel (son of Leb/Loeb).
Elias settled in Maribo (on the island Lolland) in 1773 and Israel stayed
and worked with him until
1780, when Israel moved to Roskilde (a Danish town not far >from Copenhagen).
Elias was known as Elias MARIBO/MARIBOE and Israel was known as Israel
ROSKILDE/ROESKILDE but very soon the name was written ROTHSCHILD -
presumably because of Israel's German pronounciation!?
So we have had many ROTHSHILDs in Denmark (as well as MARIBOES), and
as far as I know none of them were related to the later famous ROTHSHILDs.
So there weren't any red shields in this story ...
Best regards

Elsebeth Paikin, President
Jewish Genealogical Society of Denmark:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-denmark/
&
SIG Coordinator and webmaster:
JewishGen's Scandinavia SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/scandinavia/
mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: ROTHSCHILD a name where and how ? #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Judy wrote on 10 feb 2006 in soc.genealogy.jewish:
ROTHSCHILD
So does anybody
have any ideas or suggestions as to what was on the red shield sign)
In that time many people where analphabetic and the signs of cafes and
shops had to be visual. Itinerant painters were ordered to make a name into
a visual display.

A famous one was a London smitty, later inn, named "The Infante od
Castille" [baby Isabella, I believe, later wife of Ferdinand of Aragon]
which was vulgated to "Elephant and Castle", so the shield shows/showed an
Elephant and a Castle Keep.

I believe colours were also part of the visual image, so being the
establishment with a red sign hanging outside in the Frankfurter Jüdengasse
had a good business appeal.

The best historical link I found here:

<http://www.rothschildarchive.org/ib/?doc=/ib/articles/data_faq_redshield>

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


Congregation Beth Jacob Ohev Shalom, Williamsburg (Brooklyn) NY #general

Shlomo Katz <SKatz@...>
 

Does anyone have information about Congregation Beth Jacob Ohev Shalom
on Rodney Street in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn NY. It has a
phone listing, but the phone was not answered. My great-grandfather may
have been a member. He died in 1938.

Shlomo Katz
Silver Spring Maryland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Congregation Beth Jacob Ohev Shalom, Williamsburg (Brooklyn) NY #general

Shlomo Katz <SKatz@...>
 

Does anyone have information about Congregation Beth Jacob Ohev Shalom
on Rodney Street in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn NY. It has a
phone listing, but the phone was not answered. My great-grandfather may
have been a member. He died in 1938.

Shlomo Katz
Silver Spring Maryland


Re: Joseph BAUCH (1827 Prague - 1892 Vienna) + Francisca GRUNFELD (1833 Humpolec? - 1915 Vienna?) #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Peter Rohel asked for data on Joseph BAUCH Born: 1827
in Prague Died: March 7, 1892 {Mariannengasse Wien IX}
Joseph became "Secretary General" of the Anker
Insurance Co. in Vienna. Peter then writes: "I was
told there may be a reference to Joseph BAUCH in:
"WStLA, Altmatriken, Israelite cult municipality,
duplicates, B 5/1 24: Duplicate to the Sterbebuch in
1892, registration number 1134".

In 1855, Joseph married Francisca "Fanny" GRUNFELD
(umlaut over U) Born: 1833 in Humpolec/Humpoletz?
Died: 1915 in Vienna?

Father: Dr. Cbizorgus? GRUNFELD was born in
Humpolec/Humpoletz and was a "Surgeon (Feldscher)" in
the Imperial Austrian army. Son: Emanuel, went into
the Textile trade and later opened a "Cotton Printing
Factory" in (unknown)? Son: Bernhard, became a
"Physician" in Zatec (Saaz), south of Humpolec".

Peter; I suspect that the family changed their name to
BACH. I found this grave in the Zentralfriedhof,
Vienna: ZENTRALFRIEDHOF I. TOR 6 29 83

BACH Josef aged 65 died 07.03.1892/09.03.1892
BACH Fanny aged 82 died 05.12.1915/07.12.1915
BACH Alfred Dr. aged 80 29.06.1937/17.08.1937
BACH Rudolf 11.10.1932

And you can see the marriage in 1915 in Vienna listed
on the IGI site too - so the data should be at the IKG
in Vienna [with Josef's parents names, hopefully].
Again, the name on the IGI index is given as BACH.

When we get the Prague Jewish census of 1793 we may
find out more.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Re: Joseph BAUCH (1827 Prague - 1892 Vienna) + Francisca GRUNFELD (1833 Humpolec? - 1915 Vienna?) #austria-czech

Peter Rohel <peterrohel@...>
 

Dear Celia,

Thank you for your information re; Joseph BAUCH/BACH + Francisca "Fanny"
(Grunfeld) BAUCH/BACH
I understand they may have changed their name >from BAUCH to Bach in 1872.

As always, your assistance on this forum is greatly appreciated by all of
us.

Regards,

Peter Rohel, Toronto
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prohel/
Rohel-Bach-Bohm-Loeb + Associates (genealogy site)
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Peter; I suspect that the family changed their name to BACH. I found this
grave in the Zentralfriedhof,
Vienna: ZENTRALFRIEDHOF I. TOR 6 29 83

BACH Josef aged 65 died 07.03.1892/09.03.1892
BACH Fanny aged 82 died 05.12.1915/07.12.1915
BACH Alfred Dr. aged 80 29.06.1937/17.08.1937
BACH Rudolf 11.10.1932

And you can see the marriage in 1915 in Vienna listed on the IGI site too -
so the data should be at the IKG in Vienna [with Josef's parents names,
hopefully]. Again, the name on the IGI index is given as BACH.

When we get the Prague Jewish census of 1793 we may find out more.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Joseph BAUCH (1827 Prague - 1892 Vienna) + Francisca GRUNFELD (1833 Humpolec? - 1915 Vienna?) #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Peter Rohel asked for data on Joseph BAUCH Born: 1827
in Prague Died: March 7, 1892 {Mariannengasse Wien IX}
Joseph became "Secretary General" of the Anker
Insurance Co. in Vienna. Peter then writes: "I was
told there may be a reference to Joseph BAUCH in:
"WStLA, Altmatriken, Israelite cult municipality,
duplicates, B 5/1 24: Duplicate to the Sterbebuch in
1892, registration number 1134".

In 1855, Joseph married Francisca "Fanny" GRUNFELD
(umlaut over U) Born: 1833 in Humpolec/Humpoletz?
Died: 1915 in Vienna?

Father: Dr. Cbizorgus? GRUNFELD was born in
Humpolec/Humpoletz and was a "Surgeon (Feldscher)" in
the Imperial Austrian army. Son: Emanuel, went into
the Textile trade and later opened a "Cotton Printing
Factory" in (unknown)? Son: Bernhard, became a
"Physician" in Zatec (Saaz), south of Humpolec".

Peter; I suspect that the family changed their name to
BACH. I found this grave in the Zentralfriedhof,
Vienna: ZENTRALFRIEDHOF I. TOR 6 29 83

BACH Josef aged 65 died 07.03.1892/09.03.1892
BACH Fanny aged 82 died 05.12.1915/07.12.1915
BACH Alfred Dr. aged 80 29.06.1937/17.08.1937
BACH Rudolf 11.10.1932

And you can see the marriage in 1915 in Vienna listed
on the IGI site too - so the data should be at the IKG
in Vienna [with Josef's parents names, hopefully].
Again, the name on the IGI index is given as BACH.

When we get the Prague Jewish census of 1793 we may
find out more.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech RE: Joseph BAUCH (1827 Prague - 1892 Vienna) + Francisca GRUNFELD (1833 Humpolec? - 1915 Vienna?) #austria-czech

Peter Rohel <peterrohel@...>
 

Dear Celia,

Thank you for your information re; Joseph BAUCH/BACH + Francisca "Fanny"
(Grunfeld) BAUCH/BACH
I understand they may have changed their name >from BAUCH to Bach in 1872.

As always, your assistance on this forum is greatly appreciated by all of
us.

Regards,

Peter Rohel, Toronto
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prohel/
Rohel-Bach-Bohm-Loeb + Associates (genealogy site)
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Peter; I suspect that the family changed their name to BACH. I found this
grave in the Zentralfriedhof,
Vienna: ZENTRALFRIEDHOF I. TOR 6 29 83

BACH Josef aged 65 died 07.03.1892/09.03.1892
BACH Fanny aged 82 died 05.12.1915/07.12.1915
BACH Alfred Dr. aged 80 29.06.1937/17.08.1937
BACH Rudolf 11.10.1932

And you can see the marriage in 1915 in Vienna listed on the IGI site too -
so the data should be at the IKG in Vienna [with Josef's parents names,
hopefully]. Again, the name on the IGI index is given as BACH.

When we get the Prague Jewish census of 1793 we may find out more.

Celia Male [U.K.]


INTRO - researching RAAS family from Strasbourg or Niedernai, Alsace #germany

Tim Baker <tbaker@...>
 

I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for about 10 years,
but consider myself to be a novice in doing German Jewish Genealogy research.

I live in Bellingham, Washington State, USA, where I am the
historian/archivist for the synagogue, and I have been researching
the Jewish community and families of Bellingham, some of whom
moved here >from other places, such as San Francisco. My native language
is English.I consider myself intermediate in using a computer and the Internet.

My primary research goal now is the RAAS family >from Alsace.

Emanuel RAAS, born 1838 in Alsace, came to San Francisco, CA
in the mid-1800's and in 1869 married Ernestine BLUM (born 1849, also
in Alsace, I think). Their children were Alfred "Ralph (1873-1945),
Palmyre (c. 1875-1961), Charles (born 1880) and Alice (b. 1881).
Except for Charles, I don't know the descendants.

I don't know Emanuel or Ernestine's parents or siblings, except that
I think Ernestine's mother was Sara, and Ernestine may have had a
sister Florence / Florine BLUM who married Arthur KLINE around 1888.

Emanuel's great grandson was told that Emanuel was born in Strasbourg,
but I have no evidence to prove that.

I am trying to understand the relationship, if any, between the RAAS families
of San Francisco and New Orleans, both of whom were >from Alsace.

There was a large RAAS family >from Niedernai, with I think eight siblings,
including an Isaac RAAS (1825-1902) who went to New Orleans. Isaac
RAAS married Sara KAUFFMANN (b. 1822 in Alsace). Isaac also had a brother
Emanuel, but this Emanuel was born 1828 according to birth documents in France,
and the New Orleans family didn't know if Emanuel came over to the States.

The San Francisco Emanuel was born 1838, if we are to believe the census records,
rather than 1828.

In Emanuel and Ernestine RAAS' household in the 1880 census in
San Francisco, they had a nephew Joseph RAAS living with them.

Joseph RAAS said he was born in Richmond, Texas, although his
grandson later said he was born in Strasbourg, France. In the 1880s
Joseph RAAS went >from San Francisco to San Angelo, Texas, where he co-owned
a dry goods store, Schwartz and Raas. In 1889 he married Ida Louise
(BUSER) LYONS in San Francisco, CA, and they lived in San Angelo, TX
until the mid-1890's, when they returned to San Francisco.

Items in the Dallas Morning Herald and other sources suggest that
Joseph RASS siblings included Arthur C. (b. 1863), Andre (b. 1870),
Blanche (b. 1874), and a Mrs. Charles RUEFF (the latter living in Paris).

Joseph and Ida RAAS' children were Marguerite (1890-1963; married Uda
WALDROP) and Joelle (1892-1979; married Frank Allen). Joseph's obit
from 1928 says he left money to his sister, Julia MANIERE of Paris.
I would like to learn the parents and siblings of the Emanuel RAAS of
San Francisco, and his connection to Joseph RAAS.

As a side note, curious to know if Mrs. Charles RUEFF's husband was
related to Abe RUEF, the infamous San Francisco kingpin (who was, I
believe, >from Alsace).

Tim Baker Bellingham WA USA tbaker@vztlaw.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to GerSIG and thanks for this informative "INTRO".
You might get help >from readers of the FrenchSIG or Early American SIG lists.
The French SIG website should provide good background for your Strasbourg and
Alsace research. Good luck!


German SIG #Germany INTRO - researching RAAS family from Strasbourg or Niedernai, Alsace #germany

Tim Baker <tbaker@...>
 

I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for about 10 years,
but consider myself to be a novice in doing German Jewish Genealogy research.

I live in Bellingham, Washington State, USA, where I am the
historian/archivist for the synagogue, and I have been researching
the Jewish community and families of Bellingham, some of whom
moved here >from other places, such as San Francisco. My native language
is English.I consider myself intermediate in using a computer and the Internet.

My primary research goal now is the RAAS family >from Alsace.

Emanuel RAAS, born 1838 in Alsace, came to San Francisco, CA
in the mid-1800's and in 1869 married Ernestine BLUM (born 1849, also
in Alsace, I think). Their children were Alfred "Ralph (1873-1945),
Palmyre (c. 1875-1961), Charles (born 1880) and Alice (b. 1881).
Except for Charles, I don't know the descendants.

I don't know Emanuel or Ernestine's parents or siblings, except that
I think Ernestine's mother was Sara, and Ernestine may have had a
sister Florence / Florine BLUM who married Arthur KLINE around 1888.

Emanuel's great grandson was told that Emanuel was born in Strasbourg,
but I have no evidence to prove that.

I am trying to understand the relationship, if any, between the RAAS families
of San Francisco and New Orleans, both of whom were >from Alsace.

There was a large RAAS family >from Niedernai, with I think eight siblings,
including an Isaac RAAS (1825-1902) who went to New Orleans. Isaac
RAAS married Sara KAUFFMANN (b. 1822 in Alsace). Isaac also had a brother
Emanuel, but this Emanuel was born 1828 according to birth documents in France,
and the New Orleans family didn't know if Emanuel came over to the States.

The San Francisco Emanuel was born 1838, if we are to believe the census records,
rather than 1828.

In Emanuel and Ernestine RAAS' household in the 1880 census in
San Francisco, they had a nephew Joseph RAAS living with them.

Joseph RAAS said he was born in Richmond, Texas, although his
grandson later said he was born in Strasbourg, France. In the 1880s
Joseph RAAS went >from San Francisco to San Angelo, Texas, where he co-owned
a dry goods store, Schwartz and Raas. In 1889 he married Ida Louise
(BUSER) LYONS in San Francisco, CA, and they lived in San Angelo, TX
until the mid-1890's, when they returned to San Francisco.

Items in the Dallas Morning Herald and other sources suggest that
Joseph RASS siblings included Arthur C. (b. 1863), Andre (b. 1870),
Blanche (b. 1874), and a Mrs. Charles RUEFF (the latter living in Paris).

Joseph and Ida RAAS' children were Marguerite (1890-1963; married Uda
WALDROP) and Joelle (1892-1979; married Frank Allen). Joseph's obit
from 1928 says he left money to his sister, Julia MANIERE of Paris.
I would like to learn the parents and siblings of the Emanuel RAAS of
San Francisco, and his connection to Joseph RAAS.

As a side note, curious to know if Mrs. Charles RUEFF's husband was
related to Abe RUEF, the infamous San Francisco kingpin (who was, I
believe, >from Alsace).

Tim Baker Bellingham WA USA tbaker@vztlaw.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to GerSIG and thanks for this informative "INTRO".
You might get help >from readers of the FrenchSIG or Early American SIG lists.
The French SIG website should provide good background for your Strasbourg and
Alsace research. Good luck!


Re: Cluj Jewish cemetery #hungary

Lynn Saul <lynnsaul@...>
 

Does Jordan or anyone else know if it is possible to contact this person to
research whether a particular person is buried there?
Could such correspondence be in English?
Lynn Saul
Tucson AZ
Researching FRIEDMAN, CZINNER, PERLSTEIN, SCHOENBERGER, HOLLOS,
Satoraljaujhely, Porosko, Kolosvar, Cegled, Budapest

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jordan Auslander" <jausland@rcn.com>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:35 PM
Subject: [h-sig] Cluj Jewish cemetery


The Jewish burial registry for the main Jewish cemetery in Cluj is at:

Cluj Jewish Community Office, entrance rear 25 Tipografia St (Dr.
Gavrila Goldner ph 433-470)
Jordan Auslander


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Cluj Jewish cemetery #hungary

Lynn Saul <lynnsaul@...>
 

Does Jordan or anyone else know if it is possible to contact this person to
research whether a particular person is buried there?
Could such correspondence be in English?
Lynn Saul
Tucson AZ
Researching FRIEDMAN, CZINNER, PERLSTEIN, SCHOENBERGER, HOLLOS,
Satoraljaujhely, Porosko, Kolosvar, Cegled, Budapest

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jordan Auslander" <jausland@rcn.com>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:35 PM
Subject: [h-sig] Cluj Jewish cemetery


The Jewish burial registry for the main Jewish cemetery in Cluj is at:

Cluj Jewish Community Office, entrance rear 25 Tipografia St (Dr.
Gavrila Goldner ph 433-470)
Jordan Auslander


Re: MASZARFALVA, HUNGARY #hungary

Peter <thidas@...>
 

Masz=E1rfalva, Russian village in Bereg County; in the 1830s 20 Jews =20
lived there, estate of Count Sch=F6rnborn located here; ppl mainly =20
Greek Orthodox.

Peter
-----------------------

On 8-Feb-06, at 11:17 PM, Patricia J Weisshaus wrote:

Dear Group,.

Has anyone heard of this Maszarfalva, Hungary? I found it on a =20
passenger list featuring Rosa Grosz. If this is the right person, =20
it could possibly be near the Romanian border because her sister =20
married a man >from Nyirbator.

Thanks for any help that can be given.

Pat


Re: h-sig digest: February 08, 2006 #hungary

jps
 

Eric -

>from Collins Latin Gem Dictionary:


circumforanius/circumforanei

circumfora~neus - itinerant; (money) borrowed

perhaps a money lender?


educillator

educo - bring up, rear, train, produce

a trainer or teacher?


epocillator
??


equisios pilorus
equus - horse
pilus - hair; pilosus - hairy

groomer?


factor

fa'ctor - batsman (sport)????



galantarius????????


granatarus
granalaru
granaria - granary

Miller?


informator
informatio - sketch, idea
informo - shape, fashion, sketch, educate

artist??


opifex/opifices (artisan or laborer?)
opifex - maker, craftsman, artisan


quaestor (treasurer or paymaster)
quaestor circumforanius
quaestor - treasury official


schachterius ??????


vigularum???????
John Segedy
NH


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: MASZARFALVA, HUNGARY #hungary

Peter <thidas@...>
 

Masz=E1rfalva, Russian village in Bereg County; in the 1830s 20 Jews =20
lived there, estate of Count Sch=F6rnborn located here; ppl mainly =20
Greek Orthodox.

Peter
-----------------------

On 8-Feb-06, at 11:17 PM, Patricia J Weisshaus wrote:

Dear Group,.

Has anyone heard of this Maszarfalva, Hungary? I found it on a =20
passenger list featuring Rosa Grosz. If this is the right person, =20
it could possibly be near the Romanian border because her sister =20
married a man >from Nyirbator.

Thanks for any help that can be given.

Pat


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: February 08, 2006 #hungary

jps
 

Eric -

>from Collins Latin Gem Dictionary:


circumforanius/circumforanei

circumfora~neus - itinerant; (money) borrowed

perhaps a money lender?


educillator

educo - bring up, rear, train, produce

a trainer or teacher?


epocillator
??


equisios pilorus
equus - horse
pilus - hair; pilosus - hairy

groomer?


factor

fa'ctor - batsman (sport)????



galantarius????????


granatarus
granalaru
granaria - granary

Miller?


informator
informatio - sketch, idea
informo - shape, fashion, sketch, educate

artist??


opifex/opifices (artisan or laborer?)
opifex - maker, craftsman, artisan


quaestor (treasurer or paymaster)
quaestor circumforanius
quaestor - treasury official


schachterius ??????


vigularum???????
John Segedy
NH


Re: Searching for a Village around Miskolc #hungary

Peter <thidas@...>
 

The correct spelling of the hamlet is Muhi. It was located in Borsod
county. Famous historical battle place. (Elek Fenyes, Magyarorszag
geographiai szotara, II, p. 119 [1832])

Peter

---------------

On 8-Feb-06, at 4:41 PM, Shaul Sharoni wrote:

Dear Subscribers,

As part of my genealogy research, I've been trying to find a
village called
"Muchy Pusta" somewhere around Miskolc; thus far with no success. Does
anyone know the exact name and location of this village? Your help
would be
highly appreciated.


Kindly,
Shaul Sharoni,
Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Searching for a Village around Miskolc #hungary

Peter <thidas@...>
 

The correct spelling of the hamlet is Muhi. It was located in Borsod
county. Famous historical battle place. (Elek Fenyes, Magyarorszag
geographiai szotara, II, p. 119 [1832])

Peter

---------------

On 8-Feb-06, at 4:41 PM, Shaul Sharoni wrote:

Dear Subscribers,

As part of my genealogy research, I've been trying to find a
village called
"Muchy Pusta" somewhere around Miskolc; thus far with no success. Does
anyone know the exact name and location of this village? Your help
would be
highly appreciated.


Kindly,
Shaul Sharoni,
Israel