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VM11045 Polish translation
#general
MarlaP1041@...
Hello all,
Once again I am asking for help.Can somebody please translate this letter from the Sandomierz repository? The link is:http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=11045 I think I know the general meaning of the letter but would like to be sure before answering them. Thank you so much and please respond privately, Marla Pietroniro Marstons Mills, MA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM11045 Polish translation
#general
MarlaP1041@...
Hello all,
Once again I am asking for help.Can somebody please translate this letter from the Sandomierz repository? The link is:http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=11045 I think I know the general meaning of the letter but would like to be sure before answering them. Thank you so much and please respond privately, Marla Pietroniro Marstons Mills, MA
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RABBI ELIEZER WINTNER
#hungary
Avrofek <avrofek@...>
Rabbi Raphael Halperin in his encyclopedia Etz Hayim lists haRav Eliezer
Wintner #2351 as one of the great rabbis of Hungary. He was rabbi in Breif(sp!) and Av Bet Din in Shtempan (sp!). He was a disciple of haRav Moshe Sofer. He died in 1893 at the age of 41. I would appreciate ANY information: scholastic, rabbinic, family, genealogy, etc. Thank you all' Avraham Ofek
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18th century emigration to Hungary
#hungary
Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
There is a lot of detailed information available on the immigration
into Hungary >from Moravia, Austria and Bohemia. Most of it is shown in the various 18th century censuses that were conducted in Hungary. In some of these censuses (1725, 1735) the origin of the head of household is identified. These censuses were published in Magyar Zsido Okleveltar, an 18 volume collection on Hungarian Jewish documents, which is available in certain University and large Jewish libraries. Henry Wellisch Toronto
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Hungary SIG #Hungary RABBI ELIEZER WINTNER
#hungary
Avrofek <avrofek@...>
Rabbi Raphael Halperin in his encyclopedia Etz Hayim lists haRav Eliezer
Wintner #2351 as one of the great rabbis of Hungary. He was rabbi in Breif(sp!) and Av Bet Din in Shtempan (sp!). He was a disciple of haRav Moshe Sofer. He died in 1893 at the age of 41. I would appreciate ANY information: scholastic, rabbinic, family, genealogy, etc. Thank you all' Avraham Ofek
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Hungary SIG #Hungary 18th century emigration to Hungary
#hungary
Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
There is a lot of detailed information available on the immigration
into Hungary >from Moravia, Austria and Bohemia. Most of it is shown in the various 18th century censuses that were conducted in Hungary. In some of these censuses (1725, 1735) the origin of the head of household is identified. These censuses were published in Magyar Zsido Okleveltar, an 18 volume collection on Hungarian Jewish documents, which is available in certain University and large Jewish libraries. Henry Wellisch Toronto
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ZIRNER Family from Hungary and Vienna
#hungary
Ed Zwieback <ezwieback@...>
We have collected a lot of basic info about the ZIRNER family, originally
from Bonyhad, Hungary, and prominent in Vienna. They were connected to theZWIEBACK family. The ZIRNER family chart is shown at http://ezwieback.com/ZFN-p/ld10.htm#a0 . I would be happy add any new family info to the website. Regards, Ed Zwieback Long Beach, California with the ZWIEBACK Family Name at http://ezwieback.com/ZFN-p/index.htm
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Hungary SIG #Hungary ZIRNER Family from Hungary and Vienna
#hungary
Ed Zwieback <ezwieback@...>
We have collected a lot of basic info about the ZIRNER family, originally
from Bonyhad, Hungary, and prominent in Vienna. They were connected to theZWIEBACK family. The ZIRNER family chart is shown at http://ezwieback.com/ZFN-p/ld10.htm#a0 . I would be happy add any new family info to the website. Regards, Ed Zwieback Long Beach, California with the ZWIEBACK Family Name at http://ezwieback.com/ZFN-p/index.htm
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Re: -ov ending on surnames
#sephardic
David & Diana Laufer <dlaufer@...>
Elaine Bush wrote:
I find this discussion interesting. My FRUMHOFF family was most likely FRUMOV. Another possibility is that HOFF is the German/Yiddish word for a courtyard. And FRUM is Yiddish for 'religious'. So FRUMHOFF could have been the owner of a place where some religious activities took place. David Laufer Sydney
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Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: -ov ending on surnames
#sephardic
David & Diana Laufer <dlaufer@...>
Elaine Bush wrote:
I find this discussion interesting. My FRUMHOFF family was most likely FRUMOV. Another possibility is that HOFF is the German/Yiddish word for a courtyard. And FRUM is Yiddish for 'religious'. So FRUMHOFF could have been the owner of a place where some religious activities took place. David Laufer Sydney
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Resignation
#lithuania
Carol Baker
I hereby resign as Coordinator for the Siauliai District Research Group
effective immediately. Carol Coplin Baker MODERATOR'S NOTE: LitvakSIG extends heartfelt thanks to Carol for her many years of painstaking work and commitment, both as the SIG's Research Groups Coordinator and as the Siauliai District Research Group Coordinator.
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Resignation
#lithuania
Carol Baker
I hereby resign as Coordinator for the Siauliai District Research Group
effective immediately. Carol Coplin Baker MODERATOR'S NOTE: LitvakSIG extends heartfelt thanks to Carol for her many years of painstaking work and commitment, both as the SIG's Research Groups Coordinator and as the Siauliai District Research Group Coordinator.
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HILL family and the 1900 & 1920 Federal Census
#general
Dina Hill
I went back to the 1900 Census for Aaron and Sarah HILL and I realized
something thanks to a Jewishgenner so kind to help me out as well as others. The columns were not quite the same as they were in the 1920 census. In the 1900 Census, column 16 asks year of immigration. Aaron put 1886 (he arrived Nov. 1885 for sure >from the ship's manifest that I have)and Sarah put 1887. Their son Benjamin was born September 1887 but on the 1920 census, in the column that asks what year did you arrive, they have written there 1896 which is definitely wrong. In the 1900 census, column 17 asks "Number of years in the USA" and column 18 just says "Naturalization" (not the year). Sarah Hill did not come to New York in 1887 the way her husband did in 1885. And if he got it wrong himself, saying he came here in 1886 when I have the ship's manifest to show he arrived in November 1885, then as someone here pointed out, there's a good chance that she arrived at a different port like Philadelphia rather than New York. The only thing I know for sure is that their son Benjamin was born in New York September 1887. Whether he was born a CHILL or a HILL, I don't know but in 1900, they were HILL. I can't find any legal document to show the name change. I have sent letter to the National Archives with the ship's information and the year Aaron said he was Naturalized but no Naturalization papers could be found. If anyone thinks they can help me, please e-mail me. I really need to find out how Sarah (or Sura) Rubinstein/Rubenstajn Chill HILL arrived. If she was married to him before she got here, then was she a CHILL or a HILL? Best Regards, Dina Hill Davie, FL searching CHILL, HILL, GABRIEL, LICHTENFELD, PESS, PEST, APTEKARZ, APTEKAR, KLAJNKOFMAN, KLEINKAUFMAN, CHAMITA, MUSZKAT, HELFMAN, TEMER, RUBENSTEIN,RUBINSTEIN, RUBENSTAJN
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen HILL family and the 1900 & 1920 Federal Census
#general
Dina Hill
I went back to the 1900 Census for Aaron and Sarah HILL and I realized
something thanks to a Jewishgenner so kind to help me out as well as others. The columns were not quite the same as they were in the 1920 census. In the 1900 Census, column 16 asks year of immigration. Aaron put 1886 (he arrived Nov. 1885 for sure >from the ship's manifest that I have)and Sarah put 1887. Their son Benjamin was born September 1887 but on the 1920 census, in the column that asks what year did you arrive, they have written there 1896 which is definitely wrong. In the 1900 census, column 17 asks "Number of years in the USA" and column 18 just says "Naturalization" (not the year). Sarah Hill did not come to New York in 1887 the way her husband did in 1885. And if he got it wrong himself, saying he came here in 1886 when I have the ship's manifest to show he arrived in November 1885, then as someone here pointed out, there's a good chance that she arrived at a different port like Philadelphia rather than New York. The only thing I know for sure is that their son Benjamin was born in New York September 1887. Whether he was born a CHILL or a HILL, I don't know but in 1900, they were HILL. I can't find any legal document to show the name change. I have sent letter to the National Archives with the ship's information and the year Aaron said he was Naturalized but no Naturalization papers could be found. If anyone thinks they can help me, please e-mail me. I really need to find out how Sarah (or Sura) Rubinstein/Rubenstajn Chill HILL arrived. If she was married to him before she got here, then was she a CHILL or a HILL? Best Regards, Dina Hill Davie, FL searching CHILL, HILL, GABRIEL, LICHTENFELD, PESS, PEST, APTEKARZ, APTEKAR, KLAJNKOFMAN, KLEINKAUFMAN, CHAMITA, MUSZKAT, HELFMAN, TEMER, RUBENSTEIN,RUBINSTEIN, RUBENSTAJN
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Census transcriptions and mistranscriptions
#general
Barbara Zimmer
Dear Genners:
As an example ot bad writing and worse transcription, I offer an example >from the 1930 US census for my family in East Orange NJ. At a popular paid website, my grandmother, Anna, is transcribed as "Arena" and her youngest daughter is transcribed as "Theobald" although her name is Lucille! My uncle is transcribed as Wilbur and his name was Milton! Granted, the census taker had really bad handwriting and poor spelling, but I dare not tell my elderly aunt that she was "Theobald" in 1930! I have sent in corrections, but **their version still takes precedence..... Barbara Zimmer Norfolk VA
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Searching county property appraiser's web sites
#general
Dina Hill
Hi Fellow Jewishgenners,
I don't know if this has been brought up yet but I did want to let you all know that a great way to find people with the surname you're looking for is to look that name up in various county property appraiser's web sites. Broward County Florida Property Appraiser's Web Site Link http://www.bcpa.net/search.asp Palm Beach County Florida http://www.co.palm-beach.fl.us/papa/aspx/GeneralSearch/GeneralSearch.aspx Miami-Dade County http://www.miamidade.gov/pa/property_search.asp Cook County Illinois Property Appraiser http://www.cookcountyassessor.com/ccao/startres.html ...and you can google to see what other counties are online. Best Regards, Dina Aptekar Hill Searching: APTEKAR, APTAKER, HILL, CHILL, MUSZKAT, HELFMAN, KLAJNKOFMAN, KLEINKAUFMAN, GABRIEL, LICHTENFELD, TEMER, CHAMITA, RUBENSTEIN, RUBINSTEIN, RUBENSTAJN
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Census transcriptions and mistranscriptions
#general
Barbara Zimmer
Dear Genners:
As an example ot bad writing and worse transcription, I offer an example >from the 1930 US census for my family in East Orange NJ. At a popular paid website, my grandmother, Anna, is transcribed as "Arena" and her youngest daughter is transcribed as "Theobald" although her name is Lucille! My uncle is transcribed as Wilbur and his name was Milton! Granted, the census taker had really bad handwriting and poor spelling, but I dare not tell my elderly aunt that she was "Theobald" in 1930! I have sent in corrections, but **their version still takes precedence..... Barbara Zimmer Norfolk VA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching county property appraiser's web sites
#general
Dina Hill
Hi Fellow Jewishgenners,
I don't know if this has been brought up yet but I did want to let you all know that a great way to find people with the surname you're looking for is to look that name up in various county property appraiser's web sites. Broward County Florida Property Appraiser's Web Site Link http://www.bcpa.net/search.asp Palm Beach County Florida http://www.co.palm-beach.fl.us/papa/aspx/GeneralSearch/GeneralSearch.aspx Miami-Dade County http://www.miamidade.gov/pa/property_search.asp Cook County Illinois Property Appraiser http://www.cookcountyassessor.com/ccao/startres.html ...and you can google to see what other counties are online. Best Regards, Dina Aptekar Hill Searching: APTEKAR, APTAKER, HILL, CHILL, MUSZKAT, HELFMAN, KLAJNKOFMAN, KLEINKAUFMAN, GABRIEL, LICHTENFELD, TEMER, CHAMITA, RUBENSTEIN, RUBINSTEIN, RUBENSTAJN
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Re: Hair color hane?
#general
Jules Levin
I submitted this as a linguistic puzzle to my Slavic and East European
Languages list (SEELANGS), and received interesting comments. I will only mention what I think is the most plausible: One responder cited the German word hanebuechen, abbreviated to 'hane', meaning 'nondescript'. An American ship could have had a German purser [or whichever officer compiled the manifest] who knew the common color names in English but slipped at 'nondescript'. Some responders on SEELANGS asked to see the original. It would be good if it were possible to send a copy. Jules Levin Los Angeles MODERATOR NOTE: Please communicate privately with Jules Levin about his request.
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Rabbi Eliezer WINTNER
#general
Avrofek <avrofek@...>
Rabbi Raphael Halperin in his encyclopedia Etz Hayim lists haRav Eliezer
WINTNER #2351 as one of the great rabbis of Hungary. He was rabbi in Breif(sp!) and Av Bet Din in Shtempan (sp!). He was a disciple of haRav Moshe Sofer. He died in 1893 at the age of 41. I would appreciate *any* information: scholastic, rabbinic, family, genealogy, etc. Thank you all' Avraham Ofek
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