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UK NATURALISATION #unitedkingdom

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

My gf, Jack TISHMAN a.k.a Jack TISMAN (1904-1998); Russia; Leather Worker;
Dunsmure Road, London, N16, took his Oath of Allegiance on 3/5/48 which is
clearly stated in The London Gazette under the header of Naturalisation.

The UK National Archives referred me to the Border & Immigration Agency,
Liverpool, so I could obtain a registration number. They have just advised
that there is no record of my gf having acquired British Citizenship or
Naturalisation in the UK.

Has anybody had a similar experience or can offer me further suggestions? I
was hoping that the details would hold the key to where he was specifically
born and his parents full names.

Please contact me on a1steve@bigpond.com

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane, Australia

Also searching;- RUBINSTEIN, LEBIS, LEBOFF, OGIN, RABIN, RABINOVITCH,
WILSON/ WOOLFSON, RANDALL, TISMAN/TISHMAN/TISSMAN


Freed/Freudenfall/Freudenfeld #unitedkingdom

stephenfreed@tiscali.co.uk <stephenfreed@...>
 

Hi,
I'm looking for further leads into my family research and wondered if
anyone knows or has come across any members of my Freed family. My
grandparents Adolf(aka Aaron) and Lea (aka Laura) Freudenfall came >from
Galicia and settled in Whitechapel district of London c1905. They had
10 children born in Mile End and Spitalfields area between 1905-1924
who gradually adopted the shortened surname Freed. 20 grandchildren
followed; mainly born in Stepney district and again adopting the Freed
surname. My aunts and uncles married; Bobrovitch, Toockman, Steel,
Reeves, Goldstein, Lieberman, Jacobson, Richman, Katzovsky (aka Kaye),
Silver and Rickman. Personal mail me please if you know of any links,
need or can share more info.
thanks
Stephen FREED
Newcastle upon Tyne


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom UK NATURALISATION #unitedkingdom

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

My gf, Jack TISHMAN a.k.a Jack TISMAN (1904-1998); Russia; Leather Worker;
Dunsmure Road, London, N16, took his Oath of Allegiance on 3/5/48 which is
clearly stated in The London Gazette under the header of Naturalisation.

The UK National Archives referred me to the Border & Immigration Agency,
Liverpool, so I could obtain a registration number. They have just advised
that there is no record of my gf having acquired British Citizenship or
Naturalisation in the UK.

Has anybody had a similar experience or can offer me further suggestions? I
was hoping that the details would hold the key to where he was specifically
born and his parents full names.

Please contact me on a1steve@bigpond.com

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane, Australia

Also searching;- RUBINSTEIN, LEBIS, LEBOFF, OGIN, RABIN, RABINOVITCH,
WILSON/ WOOLFSON, RANDALL, TISMAN/TISHMAN/TISSMAN


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Freed/Freudenfall/Freudenfeld #unitedkingdom

stephenfreed@tiscali.co.uk <stephenfreed@...>
 

Hi,
I'm looking for further leads into my family research and wondered if
anyone knows or has come across any members of my Freed family. My
grandparents Adolf(aka Aaron) and Lea (aka Laura) Freudenfall came >from
Galicia and settled in Whitechapel district of London c1905. They had
10 children born in Mile End and Spitalfields area between 1905-1924
who gradually adopted the shortened surname Freed. 20 grandchildren
followed; mainly born in Stepney district and again adopting the Freed
surname. My aunts and uncles married; Bobrovitch, Toockman, Steel,
Reeves, Goldstein, Lieberman, Jacobson, Richman, Katzovsky (aka Kaye),
Silver and Rickman. Personal mail me please if you know of any links,
need or can share more info.
thanks
Stephen FREED
Newcastle upon Tyne


IAJGS Chicago 2008 Conference Announcement #unitedkingdom

ANNE LEE <information@...>
 

We want to share this important announcement about the Chicago 2008
conference with all of you.

Eighteen (18) computer workshops have now been scheduled. Each workshop
lasts one hour and 45 minutes. The registration fee is $25.00 per person.
Attendance is limited to 25 individuals per workshop (note: many of the
workshops offered at last year's conference sold out). These workshops
provide an excellent opportunity for you to learn new computer and Internet
research skills or brush up on existing ones.

You can see the entire list of computer workshops by going to the conference
website and clicking on the "Breaking News" button.

The computer workshops are on the registration form and you must
register/pay in order to participate in any of them.

Because the number of participants in each workshop is limited, we suggest
that you sign up as soon as possible.

If you have not already registered for the conference, go to
www.chicago2008.org and click on "Registration"

If you have already registered, go to "registration" and then "registration
update" to add computer workshops.

And, don't forget to sign up for breakfasts with experts and/or luncheons
when you register or update your registration.

On behalf of IAJGS, the JGS of Illinois, and the Illiana JGS, we look
forward to seeing you in Chicago!
Anne Feder Lee
Mike Posnick
Joel Spector
Conference Co-Chairs


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom IAJGS Chicago 2008 Conference Announcement #unitedkingdom

ANNE LEE <information@...>
 

We want to share this important announcement about the Chicago 2008
conference with all of you.

Eighteen (18) computer workshops have now been scheduled. Each workshop
lasts one hour and 45 minutes. The registration fee is $25.00 per person.
Attendance is limited to 25 individuals per workshop (note: many of the
workshops offered at last year's conference sold out). These workshops
provide an excellent opportunity for you to learn new computer and Internet
research skills or brush up on existing ones.

You can see the entire list of computer workshops by going to the conference
website and clicking on the "Breaking News" button.

The computer workshops are on the registration form and you must
register/pay in order to participate in any of them.

Because the number of participants in each workshop is limited, we suggest
that you sign up as soon as possible.

If you have not already registered for the conference, go to
www.chicago2008.org and click on "Registration"

If you have already registered, go to "registration" and then "registration
update" to add computer workshops.

And, don't forget to sign up for breakfasts with experts and/or luncheons
when you register or update your registration.

On behalf of IAJGS, the JGS of Illinois, and the Illiana JGS, we look
forward to seeing you in Chicago!
Anne Feder Lee
Mike Posnick
Joel Spector
Conference Co-Chairs


Re: Town names in AHD #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <g_hirsch@...>
 

The discussion started with the transcript of Bekescsaba in the
"Hirek az elhurcoltakrol" which was not handwritten but a printed
Hungarian newspaper in 1945. There were several misspelled names
or town names like in case of Be'kescaba instead of Be'ke'scsaba
which was consequently misspelled.

There were also some abbreviation, which might not disturb somebody
in or >from Hungary but it can be disturbing for others. like
Hodmezovasarh instead of Hodmezovasarhely or Hodmezovasarh(ely)
or Pestszenterzs instead of Pestszenterzs(ebet) Szilvásztmárton
probably Szilvássz(en)tmárton.

As I have on microfilm the "Hirek az Elhurcoltakrol" so some
misspelling can be explained by illegible characters and may be
the copy you had available is worse than mine, but not all.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

----- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -----
Von: Gary Deutsch
Gesendet: 01:26 Uhr
An: H-SIG
Betreff: RE: [h-sig] Town names in AHD
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Anyone who has transcribed records knows the issues with trying to
decipher
handwriting. Sometimes, the town names are quite legible but many times
they
are not.

The rules put in place to reduce the errors are the best we can do when
they
are followed. While reviewing the Miskolc vital records that are sent to
me
from volunteers throughout the world, some Hungarian-speaking (reading?),
I
search every town in the "Other Towns" column. If the name appears in the
database that I have built >from Jewishgen, great; we keep it. If not and
it
can be determined to match or be an abbreviation, I add the bracketed
entry
for instance, "D Gyor [Diosgyor]" or "Gyogyos [Gyorgyos / Gyongyos]" so
the
index will pick up the correct name. This correction is not always
possible.
What should be done with "...vaj"?

These rules are put into place to make the best of a difficult situation.
Accented characters are not supposed to be included with the accents
anyway.
We were fortunate to have this set donated that was transcribed without
"our
rules" but there is a trade-off.

The other issue is that the quantity of entries could take years (and
has)
to review and correct every entry. I do it because I have a smaller
subset
of records (and because I'm slightly obsessive-compulsive.)

We all realize that the data is only good if it can be found; however, we
have to do the best we can under the circumstances.

Perhaps when we are done transcribing the all the records, the next
project
can be to correct town names?

Gary Deutsch
Roswell, GA
Moderator: Please continue this debate off-list unless there is new information likely to be of general interest.


Susan Schreiber #hungary

Sam Schleman <Samara99@...>
 

Does anyone have the current email address for Susan Schreiber? Her email
address is no longer valid.

Please let me know off list.

Thanks,

Sam Schleman, PA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: RE: Town names in AHD #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <g_hirsch@...>
 

The discussion started with the transcript of Bekescsaba in the
"Hirek az elhurcoltakrol" which was not handwritten but a printed
Hungarian newspaper in 1945. There were several misspelled names
or town names like in case of Be'kescaba instead of Be'ke'scsaba
which was consequently misspelled.

There were also some abbreviation, which might not disturb somebody
in or >from Hungary but it can be disturbing for others. like
Hodmezovasarh instead of Hodmezovasarhely or Hodmezovasarh(ely)
or Pestszenterzs instead of Pestszenterzs(ebet) Szilvásztmárton
probably Szilvássz(en)tmárton.

As I have on microfilm the "Hirek az Elhurcoltakrol" so some
misspelling can be explained by illegible characters and may be
the copy you had available is worse than mine, but not all.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

----- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -----
Von: Gary Deutsch
Gesendet: 01:26 Uhr
An: H-SIG
Betreff: RE: [h-sig] Town names in AHD
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Anyone who has transcribed records knows the issues with trying to
decipher
handwriting. Sometimes, the town names are quite legible but many times
they
are not.

The rules put in place to reduce the errors are the best we can do when
they
are followed. While reviewing the Miskolc vital records that are sent to
me
from volunteers throughout the world, some Hungarian-speaking (reading?),
I
search every town in the "Other Towns" column. If the name appears in the
database that I have built >from Jewishgen, great; we keep it. If not and
it
can be determined to match or be an abbreviation, I add the bracketed
entry
for instance, "D Gyor [Diosgyor]" or "Gyogyos [Gyorgyos / Gyongyos]" so
the
index will pick up the correct name. This correction is not always
possible.
What should be done with "...vaj"?

These rules are put into place to make the best of a difficult situation.
Accented characters are not supposed to be included with the accents
anyway.
We were fortunate to have this set donated that was transcribed without
"our
rules" but there is a trade-off.

The other issue is that the quantity of entries could take years (and
has)
to review and correct every entry. I do it because I have a smaller
subset
of records (and because I'm slightly obsessive-compulsive.)

We all realize that the data is only good if it can be found; however, we
have to do the best we can under the circumstances.

Perhaps when we are done transcribing the all the records, the next
project
can be to correct town names?

Gary Deutsch
Roswell, GA
Moderator: Please continue this debate off-list unless there is new information likely to be of general interest.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Susan Schreiber #hungary

Sam Schleman <Samara99@...>
 

Does anyone have the current email address for Susan Schreiber? Her email
address is no longer valid.

Please let me know off list.

Thanks,

Sam Schleman, PA


Szabolcs county early censii 1812-1836 #hungary

alex miller <alexpmiller@...>
 

Hello Friends,

I wonder if any of us encountered Szabolcs county early censii
1812-1836, or have experience with the regional archive in
Nyiregyhaza?(I think)

The Kisvarda memorial book--Kisvardai zsidosag tortrnete makes mention
of these pg 21

1812--one jaras
1821--all
1832--all

alex miller, Gen Capital, PA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Szabolcs county early censii 1812-1836 #hungary

alex miller <alexpmiller@...>
 

Hello Friends,

I wonder if any of us encountered Szabolcs county early censii
1812-1836, or have experience with the regional archive in
Nyiregyhaza?(I think)

The Kisvarda memorial book--Kisvardai zsidosag tortrnete makes mention
of these pg 21

1812--one jaras
1821--all
1832--all

alex miller, Gen Capital, PA


Legistative Updates: Iowa, New Hampshire and New Jersey #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

For your information three more legislative updates for US states regarding access
to vital records:

1. Iowa House File 2548 amends existing law to provide birth, marriage, annulment ,
and death records may be inspected and copied under the open records law if they
are located at the state archivist and 75 years old or in custody at the county
recorders office.
http://coolice.legis.state.ia.us/Cool-ICE/default.asp?Category=BillInfo&Service=
Billbook&ga=82&menu=text&hbill=HF2548

2.New Hampshire SB 461 makes birth records after 100 years and marriage, divorce
and death records after 50 years as part of the public domain.To read the bill go
to:
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2008/SB0461.html

3. New Jersey A 326 on access to vital records has been further amended to permit
anyone in the newsmedia to be able to obtain informational or non-certified copies
of vital records.
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2008/Bills/A0500/326_R2.PDF

The IAJGS Latest-Alert has been updated on the IAJGS website, For more
information go to:
http://www.iajgs.org/pramc/Latest_Alert.doc .

Jan Meisels Allen, Director
IAJGS and chairperson,
Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Legistative Updates: Iowa, New Hampshire and New Jersey #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

For your information three more legislative updates for US states regarding access
to vital records:

1. Iowa House File 2548 amends existing law to provide birth, marriage, annulment ,
and death records may be inspected and copied under the open records law if they
are located at the state archivist and 75 years old or in custody at the county
recorders office.
http://coolice.legis.state.ia.us/Cool-ICE/default.asp?Category=BillInfo&Service=
Billbook&ga=82&menu=text&hbill=HF2548

2.New Hampshire SB 461 makes birth records after 100 years and marriage, divorce
and death records after 50 years as part of the public domain.To read the bill go
to:
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2008/SB0461.html

3. New Jersey A 326 on access to vital records has been further amended to permit
anyone in the newsmedia to be able to obtain informational or non-certified copies
of vital records.
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2008/Bills/A0500/326_R2.PDF

The IAJGS Latest-Alert has been updated on the IAJGS website, For more
information go to:
http://www.iajgs.org/pramc/Latest_Alert.doc .

Jan Meisels Allen, Director
IAJGS and chairperson,
Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


USHMM "Hidden History of the Kovno Ghetto" Online Exhibit #general

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

The USHMM has an online exhibition on the Kovno Ghetto that may be of interest to
researchers: "Hidden History of the Kovno Ghetto"

http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/online/kovno/

"During the three-year life of the Kovno ghetto in Lithuania, members of the
terrorized Jewish population, determined to leave a record for posterity,
methodically created secret archives,diaries, drawings, and photographs to
document German crimes against their community. Most of these works were buried
beneath the ghetto. Dug up after the war,wooden crates reveal the history
of the ghetto."

Renee Steinig has pointed out to me that thousands of German Jews were also
deported to Kovno and murdered in the Ninth Fort, so this exhibit might be of
interest to German researchers too.

The museum has also published a hardcover book on this topic, available in their
bookstore.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen USHMM "Hidden History of the Kovno Ghetto" Online Exhibit #general

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

The USHMM has an online exhibition on the Kovno Ghetto that may be of interest to
researchers: "Hidden History of the Kovno Ghetto"

http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/online/kovno/

"During the three-year life of the Kovno ghetto in Lithuania, members of the
terrorized Jewish population, determined to leave a record for posterity,
methodically created secret archives,diaries, drawings, and photographs to
document German crimes against their community. Most of these works were buried
beneath the ghetto. Dug up after the war,wooden crates reveal the history
of the ghetto."

Renee Steinig has pointed out to me that thousands of German Jews were also
deported to Kovno and murdered in the Ninth Fort, so this exhibit might be of
interest to German researchers too.

The museum has also published a hardcover book on this topic, available in their
bookstore.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Montreal's Baron de Hirsch Cemetery - do you have ancestors buried in #general

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

In years past, Montreal was a gateway for Jewish immigrants to North America.
Many Jewish immigrants made their way to Montreal, moving on to cities
in Western Canada and the United States at one point or another.

The Baron de Hirsch Cemetery, Montreal's largest Jewish cemetery complex,
has published a book to tell the story of its first 100 years.

The book is entitled,
"Sacred Ground on de la Savane, Montreal's Baron de Hirsch Cemetery",
written by Danny Kucharsky and illustrated with archival photographs.

This book can be ordered directly >from the Baron de Hirsch Cemetery, Inc.:
5015 de la Savane, Montreal, Canada H4P 1V1

Tel: 514.735.4696
Fax: 514.735.4698
bdh@barondehirsch.com

*If you wish to see the index, please contact me privately*

Merle Kastner
JGS of Montreal, Programming
merlek@videotron.ca
Member of the Board of Directors of the Baron de Hirsch Cemeteries


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Montreal's Baron de Hirsch Cemetery - do you have ancestors buried in #general

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

In years past, Montreal was a gateway for Jewish immigrants to North America.
Many Jewish immigrants made their way to Montreal, moving on to cities
in Western Canada and the United States at one point or another.

The Baron de Hirsch Cemetery, Montreal's largest Jewish cemetery complex,
has published a book to tell the story of its first 100 years.

The book is entitled,
"Sacred Ground on de la Savane, Montreal's Baron de Hirsch Cemetery",
written by Danny Kucharsky and illustrated with archival photographs.

This book can be ordered directly >from the Baron de Hirsch Cemetery, Inc.:
5015 de la Savane, Montreal, Canada H4P 1V1

Tel: 514.735.4696
Fax: 514.735.4698
bdh@barondehirsch.com

*If you wish to see the index, please contact me privately*

Merle Kastner
JGS of Montreal, Programming
merlek@videotron.ca
Member of the Board of Directors of the Baron de Hirsch Cemeteries


Birzai Lithuania Internal Passports #general

Howard Margol
 

I have just received the first 883 Birzai Internal Passport records
1919-1940. The number of additional records translated will depend on the amount
of money donated to support the project. It is not possible to determine in
advance the extent of the records so a target amount cannot be arrived at. Several
thousand dollars, at least, will be needed to complete the Birzai Internal
Passport records.

In order to qualify, and receive the records as they are translated,
$100 or more must be donated. To contribute to this project, please
go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity

Be sure and designate your contribution is for Lithuania Applications for
Internal Passports 1919-1940. After you have done so, please send
me an email message informing me of your contribution and state that it is
for the Birzai Internal Passport Records. I will send you the records as soon
as I receive them and have had an opportunity to review them. You will not
only receive these 885 records but will also receive all other Birzai Internal
Passport records as they are received.

To learn about the reason for the Internal Passports, and to see copies of
actual documents, go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/InternalPassports.htm#project

It will be 10 or 12 months before these records will be added to the searchable
database. There is a great advantage to receiving all of the records, as
they are translated, as opposed to doing a search in a database many months later.
If you find a record of interest, it will speed your research along that much
faster. Also, many times records of your ancestors can be found by looking at all
of the records whereas a surname search fails.

If you do find any records of interest in the BIRZAI Internal Passports, you
can write to the Central Archive in Vilnius and request a copy of everything in
the person's Internal Passport file. Many times, it contains original records
not found elsewhere

Your immediate family may have left Lithuania prior to 1919 but in most
cases, other family members as well as Uncles, Aunts, and cousins remained.

Your support for the Internal Passport Project is very much appreciated.

Howard Margol
Coordinator Internal Passport Project
homargol@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Birzai Lithuania Internal Passports #general

Howard Margol
 

I have just received the first 883 Birzai Internal Passport records
1919-1940. The number of additional records translated will depend on the amount
of money donated to support the project. It is not possible to determine in
advance the extent of the records so a target amount cannot be arrived at. Several
thousand dollars, at least, will be needed to complete the Birzai Internal
Passport records.

In order to qualify, and receive the records as they are translated,
$100 or more must be donated. To contribute to this project, please
go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity

Be sure and designate your contribution is for Lithuania Applications for
Internal Passports 1919-1940. After you have done so, please send
me an email message informing me of your contribution and state that it is
for the Birzai Internal Passport Records. I will send you the records as soon
as I receive them and have had an opportunity to review them. You will not
only receive these 885 records but will also receive all other Birzai Internal
Passport records as they are received.

To learn about the reason for the Internal Passports, and to see copies of
actual documents, go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/InternalPassports.htm#project

It will be 10 or 12 months before these records will be added to the searchable
database. There is a great advantage to receiving all of the records, as
they are translated, as opposed to doing a search in a database many months later.
If you find a record of interest, it will speed your research along that much
faster. Also, many times records of your ancestors can be found by looking at all
of the records whereas a surname search fails.

If you do find any records of interest in the BIRZAI Internal Passports, you
can write to the Central Archive in Vilnius and request a copy of everything in
the person's Internal Passport file. Many times, it contains original records
not found elsewhere

Your immediate family may have left Lithuania prior to 1919 but in most
cases, other family members as well as Uncles, Aunts, and cousins remained.

Your support for the Internal Passport Project is very much appreciated.

Howard Margol
Coordinator Internal Passport Project
homargol@aol.com