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Translation from Polish needed #ukraine

arroyolynn@...
 

Dear Fellow Genners,

I have just posted a document on Viewmate that I got >from a microfilm
>from LDS. It is in Polish and I am asking for help to translate the
entire document for me including the margin area and any signatures at
the bottom. Some of those names at the bottom are in Hebrew or Yiddish.

The document is supposedly a birth record for Hersz Dawid Troianski
>from 1826. I am hoping that it will reveal information >from my father's
side of the family, and I think this might be the son of my
g-g-grandfather Chune Efraim which would make him the brother of my
great-grandfather, Chaim Mortka Troyansky who was born in 1820.

I have had no luck whatsoever in finding Chaim, or the family in
Talnoye and/or Romanivka (near Uman), Ukraine, although the Ellis
Island passenger manifest records his entry into the US. and the 1920
census shows him and his wife living in Manhattan. Of note is that
Chaim died in 1923 at the age of 103 years.

One reason I think this man, Hersz Dawid Troianski may be related is
that my father, David Troyansky, might have been named for him.
Additionally, my mother always told me that my Yiddish middle name,
Tzvia, was derived >from an uncle named Hersh.

I found Chaim's tombstone in Mt. Zion Cemetery in Queens, NY where it
says his father was Chune Efraim, and his death certificate lists his
father as Chaunan (Chune) Troyansky and his mother as Goldie Cohen.
I cannot find this family anywhere in Ukraine for any year.

Thanks in advance for any help that anyone can give.

The direct link to the image is
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13387

Sincerely,
Lynn Troyansky Arroyo
Largo, FL

Researching: TROYANSKY (and variant spellings) YURICK (and variant
spellings) in Talnoye, Romanivka, Uman Ukraine, KOTKOFSKY (and variant
spellings) RAZUMNA/RAZUMNY in Krivoi Ozero and Odessa, Russia, SCHWARTZ
in Kalnybiloder, Ukraine, LEDERMAN in Trostanyets, Ukraine.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Translation from Polish needed #ukraine

arroyolynn@...
 

Dear Fellow Genners,

I have just posted a document on Viewmate that I got >from a microfilm
>from LDS. It is in Polish and I am asking for help to translate the
entire document for me including the margin area and any signatures at
the bottom. Some of those names at the bottom are in Hebrew or Yiddish.

The document is supposedly a birth record for Hersz Dawid Troianski
>from 1826. I am hoping that it will reveal information >from my father's
side of the family, and I think this might be the son of my
g-g-grandfather Chune Efraim which would make him the brother of my
great-grandfather, Chaim Mortka Troyansky who was born in 1820.

I have had no luck whatsoever in finding Chaim, or the family in
Talnoye and/or Romanivka (near Uman), Ukraine, although the Ellis
Island passenger manifest records his entry into the US. and the 1920
census shows him and his wife living in Manhattan. Of note is that
Chaim died in 1923 at the age of 103 years.

One reason I think this man, Hersz Dawid Troianski may be related is
that my father, David Troyansky, might have been named for him.
Additionally, my mother always told me that my Yiddish middle name,
Tzvia, was derived >from an uncle named Hersh.

I found Chaim's tombstone in Mt. Zion Cemetery in Queens, NY where it
says his father was Chune Efraim, and his death certificate lists his
father as Chaunan (Chune) Troyansky and his mother as Goldie Cohen.
I cannot find this family anywhere in Ukraine for any year.

Thanks in advance for any help that anyone can give.

The direct link to the image is
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13387

Sincerely,
Lynn Troyansky Arroyo
Largo, FL

Researching: TROYANSKY (and variant spellings) YURICK (and variant
spellings) in Talnoye, Romanivka, Uman Ukraine, KOTKOFSKY (and variant
spellings) RAZUMNA/RAZUMNY in Krivoi Ozero and Odessa, Russia, SCHWARTZ
in Kalnybiloder, Ukraine, LEDERMAN in Trostanyets, Ukraine.


New York City Rabbi's Synagogue #general

Steve Pickoltz
 

I'm looking for the name, address and phone number of the synagogue that a rabbi by
the name of Julius (Julian) Bresler (Bressler) may have been affiliated with. He
is listed as the Rabbi on a 1894 marriage cert.(#408)>from NYC. You can see it on
viewmate #13315.

I am sure that the synagogue is long gone, but its records may have been passed on,
so a current name, address, and phone number are needed.

Actually, what I am looking for is info on the two people he married on Jan 2,
1894. They were Solomon Brandt, son of Gershon Brandt and Sheitl Hyman. The
future wife was a Rachael Pikholtz, daughter of Max Pikholtz and Ellen Rosenbaum.

This marriage cert. is the only info I have been able to find on the newly weds, or
either of the parents (Both sides).

Any ideas- I out of them.

Steve Pickholtz
nj55turtle@comcast.net

MODERATOR NOTE: The viewmate image to which Steve refers can be accessed at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?showmaster=1&viewmateid=13315


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York City Rabbi's Synagogue #general

Steve Pickoltz
 

I'm looking for the name, address and phone number of the synagogue that a rabbi by
the name of Julius (Julian) Bresler (Bressler) may have been affiliated with. He
is listed as the Rabbi on a 1894 marriage cert.(#408)>from NYC. You can see it on
viewmate #13315.

I am sure that the synagogue is long gone, but its records may have been passed on,
so a current name, address, and phone number are needed.

Actually, what I am looking for is info on the two people he married on Jan 2,
1894. They were Solomon Brandt, son of Gershon Brandt and Sheitl Hyman. The
future wife was a Rachael Pikholtz, daughter of Max Pikholtz and Ellen Rosenbaum.

This marriage cert. is the only info I have been able to find on the newly weds, or
either of the parents (Both sides).

Any ideas- I out of them.

Steve Pickholtz
nj55turtle@comcast.net

MODERATOR NOTE: The viewmate image to which Steve refers can be accessed at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?showmaster=1&viewmateid=13315


Re: Jewish Records in Romania #romania

soring0412@...
 

Lisbeth,

Do send a letter or an e-mail asking for the records you need with as much
information you have.
You"ll get an answer (negative or positive).

Sorin Goldenberg
Israel

--------------------------------------------------
From: "saraga lisbeth" <saragal@free.fr>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:06 PM
To: "Romania SIG" <rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: Re:[rom-sig] Jewish Records in Romania

Hello all,
It seems that at present only Romanian are able to obtain copies of
documents >from the "Arhivele Nationale"(AN) for the following reason.
By clicking on the <Modele de cereri>(request models) appearing on the
home
page on the right side one gets to various forms. The petitioner is asked
to
identify himself and specify his address as follows: town, street, number,
code and <judetul>. Never the country.
Lisbeth Saraga
Paris, France


Re: Jewish Records in Romania #romania

rdleeson@...
 

Dear Lisbeth,

The site that you have looked is only in its earliest formation. It
will probably be several years at least before it is fully functional,
and there will be an English language link, too. This was the
information given to us by Dr. Dobrincu at the Philadelphia Conference.
The economy in Romania is also in a free fall, so it may even be longer
than that till they have the funds to do what Dr. Dobrincu hopes to have
available eventually.

As he has said it is still necessary for anyone outside of the country,
who cannot come in person, to make use of researchers in the country.
He could not, or would not, name any for us. There is simply not enough staff
or funds to handle mail requests for research or documents.

For those who plan to go to Romania he has now done away with the old
law that required that one write months in advance to request permission
to enter the Archives. Anyone can now do that. There are also copy
machines, where one is permitted to make 1000 copies for the amazing
fee of 20 cents! And digital cameras are now permitted. In addition,
one can now request 15 files in a day, up >from the previous limit of
10. So he is slowly making small steps in a very difficult , and
often hostile environment.

Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coordinator
ROM-SIG
Los Altos, CA USA
-------------------------------------------
saraga lisbeth wrote:

Hello all,
It seems that at present only Romanian are able to obtain copies of
documents >from the "Arhivele Nationale"(AN) for the following reason.
By clicking on the <Modele de cereri>(request models) appearing on the home
page on the right side one gets to various forms. The petitioner is asked to
identify himself and specify his address as follows: town, street, number,
code and <judetul>. Never the country.
Lisbeth Saraga
Paris, France


Romania SIG #Romania Re: Re:Jewish Records in Romania #romania

soring0412@...
 

Lisbeth,

Do send a letter or an e-mail asking for the records you need with as much
information you have.
You"ll get an answer (negative or positive).

Sorin Goldenberg
Israel

--------------------------------------------------
From: "saraga lisbeth" <saragal@free.fr>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:06 PM
To: "Romania SIG" <rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: Re:[rom-sig] Jewish Records in Romania

Hello all,
It seems that at present only Romanian are able to obtain copies of
documents >from the "Arhivele Nationale"(AN) for the following reason.
By clicking on the <Modele de cereri>(request models) appearing on the
home
page on the right side one gets to various forms. The petitioner is asked
to
identify himself and specify his address as follows: town, street, number,
code and <judetul>. Never the country.
Lisbeth Saraga
Paris, France


Romania SIG #Romania Re: Jewish Records in Romania #romania

rdleeson@...
 

Dear Lisbeth,

The site that you have looked is only in its earliest formation. It
will probably be several years at least before it is fully functional,
and there will be an English language link, too. This was the
information given to us by Dr. Dobrincu at the Philadelphia Conference.
The economy in Romania is also in a free fall, so it may even be longer
than that till they have the funds to do what Dr. Dobrincu hopes to have
available eventually.

As he has said it is still necessary for anyone outside of the country,
who cannot come in person, to make use of researchers in the country.
He could not, or would not, name any for us. There is simply not enough staff
or funds to handle mail requests for research or documents.

For those who plan to go to Romania he has now done away with the old
law that required that one write months in advance to request permission
to enter the Archives. Anyone can now do that. There are also copy
machines, where one is permitted to make 1000 copies for the amazing
fee of 20 cents! And digital cameras are now permitted. In addition,
one can now request 15 files in a day, up >from the previous limit of
10. So he is slowly making small steps in a very difficult , and
often hostile environment.

Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coordinator
ROM-SIG
Los Altos, CA USA
-------------------------------------------
saraga lisbeth wrote:

Hello all,
It seems that at present only Romanian are able to obtain copies of
documents >from the "Arhivele Nationale"(AN) for the following reason.
By clicking on the <Modele de cereri>(request models) appearing on the home
page on the right side one gets to various forms. The petitioner is asked to
identify himself and specify his address as follows: town, street, number,
code and <judetul>. Never the country.
Lisbeth Saraga
Paris, France


1941-1942 Lwow Jewish Registration Cards Follow-Up #general

Mark Jacobson
 

Hi fellow researchers,

This is a follow-up to my informational post made July 13th to all researching
Lwow/Lviv/Lemberg and the surrounding area. This is regarding 13 LDS films of
1941-1942 Jewish Registration Cards >from the city of Lwow/Lviv/Lemberg (currently
Lviv Ukraine, formerly Lwow Poland and Lemberg Austrian Galicia) I found through
the Family Search (LDS) Library online catalogue
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp
I have finally examined one film of these cards and will report my findings. The
film contains images of small printed cards, both sides were filmed but most
reverses are blank, others have printing on them that tells me they were re-using
old paper since some have stamped years >from the 1930s or they are other types of
cards cut in half. The obverse of each card is identical; at the top is printed
Judische Gemeinde der Stadt Lemberg Evidenz-Abteilung. A rough online translation
says it means Jewish Community of the city of Lemberg Evidence-Division.
Below that heading are 6 numbered columns; surname, given name, birth date,
address with street and number, occupation, and comments. Most cards were filled
out very briefly, most just with name, year or date of birth and address,
sometimes occupation. All I saw were living at addresses within the city of Lwow,
not other towns or cities. The cards apparently were listing all Jews in the city;
I saw elderly people as well as very young children, some born in 1940 or 1941. No
places of birth are listed. The cards are not dated and are not signed by anyone
but the film header card >from the Lviv Archive says they are >from 1941-1942. The
cards are in rough alphabetical order arranged by first letter of last name, some
are alphabetical after that while others are out of order. Best of luck on your
searches!

Mark Jacobson
Secretary, JGSPBCI
Boca Raton, FL

DOGULOV/DOVGALEVSKY - Belaya Tserkov/Kiev Ukraine; COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Tripolye,
Ukraine; JACOBSON - Polotsk, Belarus; KOBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus; KAMERMAN/
KAMMERMANN - Drohobycz, Galicia; KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia; JACOBI -
Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; TUCHFELD - Rzeszow/
Stryj/Lvov, Galicia; GOLDSTEIN - Ranizow, Galicia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1941-1942 Lwow Jewish Registration Cards Follow-Up #general

Mark Jacobson
 

Hi fellow researchers,

This is a follow-up to my informational post made July 13th to all researching
Lwow/Lviv/Lemberg and the surrounding area. This is regarding 13 LDS films of
1941-1942 Jewish Registration Cards >from the city of Lwow/Lviv/Lemberg (currently
Lviv Ukraine, formerly Lwow Poland and Lemberg Austrian Galicia) I found through
the Family Search (LDS) Library online catalogue
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp
I have finally examined one film of these cards and will report my findings. The
film contains images of small printed cards, both sides were filmed but most
reverses are blank, others have printing on them that tells me they were re-using
old paper since some have stamped years >from the 1930s or they are other types of
cards cut in half. The obverse of each card is identical; at the top is printed
Judische Gemeinde der Stadt Lemberg Evidenz-Abteilung. A rough online translation
says it means Jewish Community of the city of Lemberg Evidence-Division.
Below that heading are 6 numbered columns; surname, given name, birth date,
address with street and number, occupation, and comments. Most cards were filled
out very briefly, most just with name, year or date of birth and address,
sometimes occupation. All I saw were living at addresses within the city of Lwow,
not other towns or cities. The cards apparently were listing all Jews in the city;
I saw elderly people as well as very young children, some born in 1940 or 1941. No
places of birth are listed. The cards are not dated and are not signed by anyone
but the film header card >from the Lviv Archive says they are >from 1941-1942. The
cards are in rough alphabetical order arranged by first letter of last name, some
are alphabetical after that while others are out of order. Best of luck on your
searches!

Mark Jacobson
Secretary, JGSPBCI
Boca Raton, FL

DOGULOV/DOVGALEVSKY - Belaya Tserkov/Kiev Ukraine; COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Tripolye,
Ukraine; JACOBSON - Polotsk, Belarus; KOBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus; KAMERMAN/
KAMMERMANN - Drohobycz, Galicia; KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia; JACOBI -
Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; TUCHFELD - Rzeszow/
Stryj/Lvov, Galicia; GOLDSTEIN - Ranizow, Galicia


Correction to New York City Death Certificates #general

Lois Levick
 

Dear Genners -

I have a clarification >from the New York City Archives about my recent post.
Originally, I had been told that the Archives used a system of duplicate death
certificates starting with a "Y" when someone died outside of the five boroughs but
was buried within the 5 boroughs. That is correct; however, the Archives just
informed me that this system did not start until 1939. My grandfather's death in
1919 was recorded on the Manhatten Death Index and ItalianGen with a number that
does not correspond to the actual death certificate. I have recently found out
that he died in Long Island but was buried in Queens. Although I asked the
Archives if the number shown on the Index was a burial permit number, and if so,
was that noted as such on the Index, I have not gotten an answer. My reason for
this post is that it has been a very long search for me to find this death
certificate, and had it been made clear that burial permit numbers were being
recorded as death certificate numbers I could have saved many years of research.
If you are encountering this problem, too, I would suggest you look into a
statewide search for your ancestor.

Lois Levick
LEFKOWITZ, Hungary, MANDEL, Tarcal, Hungary, STOGOFF, Kirovhorad, Ukraine,
MULIARSKY, Bialobrzegi, Poland, ROSENFELD, Hungary


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Correction to New York City Death Certificates #general

Lois Levick
 

Dear Genners -

I have a clarification >from the New York City Archives about my recent post.
Originally, I had been told that the Archives used a system of duplicate death
certificates starting with a "Y" when someone died outside of the five boroughs but
was buried within the 5 boroughs. That is correct; however, the Archives just
informed me that this system did not start until 1939. My grandfather's death in
1919 was recorded on the Manhatten Death Index and ItalianGen with a number that
does not correspond to the actual death certificate. I have recently found out
that he died in Long Island but was buried in Queens. Although I asked the
Archives if the number shown on the Index was a burial permit number, and if so,
was that noted as such on the Index, I have not gotten an answer. My reason for
this post is that it has been a very long search for me to find this death
certificate, and had it been made clear that burial permit numbers were being
recorded as death certificate numbers I could have saved many years of research.
If you are encountering this problem, too, I would suggest you look into a
statewide search for your ancestor.

Lois Levick
LEFKOWITZ, Hungary, MANDEL, Tarcal, Hungary, STOGOFF, Kirovhorad, Ukraine,
MULIARSKY, Bialobrzegi, Poland, ROSENFELD, Hungary


Meaning of word #hungary

mbw.art@...
 

Hello,

I recently heard a taped conversation of a relative being interviewed
about writing frequently >from the US to my great-grandfather's sisters
before the latter came to the US in the 1890's. The interviewee said
that she addressed the correspondence to an address in "Ungvar,
Komidat" The tape, made decades ago, was in bad shape, and
"Komidat/Komitat" are my best guesses as to the spelling I heard on
the tape. It's the proper spelling and meaning of the word that I'd
like to know. I do know that my great-grandfather ran an inn in
Ungvar.

Thanks for any help.

Marc Weiss
New York City


Hungary SIG #Hungary Meaning of word #hungary

mbw.art@...
 

Hello,

I recently heard a taped conversation of a relative being interviewed
about writing frequently >from the US to my great-grandfather's sisters
before the latter came to the US in the 1890's. The interviewee said
that she addressed the correspondence to an address in "Ungvar,
Komidat" The tape, made decades ago, was in bad shape, and
"Komidat/Komitat" are my best guesses as to the spelling I heard on
the tape. It's the proper spelling and meaning of the word that I'd
like to know. I do know that my great-grandfather ran an inn in
Ungvar.

Thanks for any help.

Marc Weiss
New York City


Magdeburg Concentration Camp #hungary

sotet@...
 

Dear Group,

My uncle had died in 1944 in Magdeburg, a subcamp of Buchenwald Camp. I had
found
this information on Yad Vashem. I had followed it up and I was able to obtain
the documents that had been written about him by the Germans in the camps. Dry
facts.
Sadly, this is almost all I know about him.
I had read what one can read on Yad Vashem, the Buchenwald Memorial web site,
and the Auschwitz Memorial site.

I would like to ask you whether there is somebody among you who has some
information on the Magdeburg camp. Perhpas somebody who had a surviving
relative who had been in that camp and had written or talked about it?

My secret, though perhaps unrealistic, hope is to find some information
directly about him. I would so very much like to imagine his life there before
he died.

He was transported >from Auschwitz to Buchenwald and then to Magdeburg Camp in
July 1944 and died in December the same year. According to the camp document he
died in pneumonia.
He was an actor and an artist (painter). He was >from Hungary, Pestszenterzsebet,
(Now it's the 20-th district of Budapest).
He and his mother were taken >from the Ghetto there. As far as I know everybody
died who appears on the transport list my uncle had been on.
Please tell me
whether any of you have some information that would help me to find out more.
Agnes Sotet-Sonnefeld
New Zealand

Researching: SCHWARZ; HAUSNER- >from Szil (now Sonogyszil)- SONNENFELD; SZEKELY
born in Szentes; KUN; KOZMA; >from Hodmezovasarhely; MEZEI, frome Kecskemet;
BARANY; POLLAK might be >from Szeged; CSATO; BLEIER/BIRO; KLEIN; FISCHER;
EHRLICH; ZUCKERMAN; LASZLO >from Budapest; SOTET, all >from Hungary


Hungary SIG #Hungary Magdeburg Concentration Camp #hungary

sotet@...
 

Dear Group,

My uncle had died in 1944 in Magdeburg, a subcamp of Buchenwald Camp. I had
found
this information on Yad Vashem. I had followed it up and I was able to obtain
the documents that had been written about him by the Germans in the camps. Dry
facts.
Sadly, this is almost all I know about him.
I had read what one can read on Yad Vashem, the Buchenwald Memorial web site,
and the Auschwitz Memorial site.

I would like to ask you whether there is somebody among you who has some
information on the Magdeburg camp. Perhpas somebody who had a surviving
relative who had been in that camp and had written or talked about it?

My secret, though perhaps unrealistic, hope is to find some information
directly about him. I would so very much like to imagine his life there before
he died.

He was transported >from Auschwitz to Buchenwald and then to Magdeburg Camp in
July 1944 and died in December the same year. According to the camp document he
died in pneumonia.
He was an actor and an artist (painter). He was >from Hungary, Pestszenterzsebet,
(Now it's the 20-th district of Budapest).
He and his mother were taken >from the Ghetto there. As far as I know everybody
died who appears on the transport list my uncle had been on.
Please tell me
whether any of you have some information that would help me to find out more.
Agnes Sotet-Sonnefeld
New Zealand

Researching: SCHWARZ; HAUSNER- >from Szil (now Sonogyszil)- SONNENFELD; SZEKELY
born in Szentes; KUN; KOZMA; >from Hodmezovasarhely; MEZEI, frome Kecskemet;
BARANY; POLLAK might be >from Szeged; CSATO; BLEIER/BIRO; KLEIN; FISCHER;
EHRLICH; ZUCKERMAN; LASZLO >from Budapest; SOTET, all >from Hungary


Sophien-Gymnasium in Berlin #general

Graeme Boocock
 

Hello,

I have a Jewish relative (James Lewin, 1887-1937) who attended Sophien-Gymnasium
(sometimes spelled "Sophiengymnasium") in Berlin in 1906. I would like to ask what
happened to this institution and if its records still exist.

Sincerely,

Dr Graeme Boocock
Ottawa, Canada.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sophien-Gymnasium in Berlin #general

Graeme Boocock
 

Hello,

I have a Jewish relative (James Lewin, 1887-1937) who attended Sophien-Gymnasium
(sometimes spelled "Sophiengymnasium") in Berlin in 1906. I would like to ask what
happened to this institution and if its records still exist.

Sincerely,

Dr Graeme Boocock
Ottawa, Canada.


Polish Jewish Prisoners of War Registration Cards #general

Steinsteve@...
 

I have found some names in the All Poland Database in the collection mentioned
above, >from the JHI in Warsaw. The page describing the database, written by Peter
Lande, says that one may request copies of the index cards >from the USHMM via email
but doesn't give the email address (it says "...or by email at USHMM.org").

Does anyone know the email address, and/or have experience with these
records? Thanks.

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ

MODERATOR NOTE: Some Genners cannot see subject lines of messages - the subject
line Steve referred to is "Polish Jewish Prisoners of War Registration Cards"


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish Jewish Prisoners of War Registration Cards #general

Steinsteve@...
 

I have found some names in the All Poland Database in the collection mentioned
above, >from the JHI in Warsaw. The page describing the database, written by Peter
Lande, says that one may request copies of the index cards >from the USHMM via email
but doesn't give the email address (it says "...or by email at USHMM.org").

Does anyone know the email address, and/or have experience with these
records? Thanks.

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ

MODERATOR NOTE: Some Genners cannot see subject lines of messages - the subject
line Steve referred to is "Polish Jewish Prisoners of War Registration Cards"