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Portuguese Embassy in Budapest, 1944 #hungary

sankosy5@...
 

Dear friends -

As always these wonderful H-SIGgers have helped me fill in some more blanks, and
thanks to some terrific folks, I was able to track down data about my ancestor
Ernest/Erno SEIDNER (1892 - 1958) who emigrated to and died in Australia. He had
no children. The grave photos, however, have triggered more questions for me.......

Years ago, a distant older relative - Ernest's niece - told me that while she and
her mother had survived the Holocaust by hiding, that her grandparents (Ernest's
parents) and family had taken refuge in the Portuguese Embassy. She told me that
the embassy had been stormed by the Arrow Cross and that this SEIDNER family was
sent to the camps where they were killed.

Well, the photo of Ernest's grave in Australia has a tribute to his parents and
brother who died in "Budapest in 1944".

Does anyone know anything specific about a raid on the Portuguese Embassy? I do
know that the Arrow Cross stormed neutral places, but is there any more information
about this embassy? I am wondering if this means that this family DIDN'T get to
the camps (I could never find their names on those databases), but was either
martyred on-site, or marched to the Danube to suffer the same fate as so many
other Jews. Or perhaps they DID get sent to the camps, but Ernest felt it was easier
to put "Budapest" on the stone.

Ernest himself died of chronic kidney/urinary issues, consistent with injury, and also
beri-beri which is connected to malnutrition. To me, this seems consistent with
possible concentration camp, ghetto, or beatings experience. Perhaps he himself
was not in the embassy.

I realize that ultimately this may seem trivial to some, when perhaps it should be
enough to know that the family was martyred, but I feel an obligation to know as
much as possible in order to honour their memory.

If anyone can direct me to a source where I could learn some more about the role of
the Portuguese embassy in Budapest at this time, I would be most grateful. Please
respond directly to me unless you think that the information would be of interest to the group.

With sincere thanks,

Michele Sankar
Richmond Hill, Ontario


Hungary SIG #Hungary Portuguese Embassy in Budapest, 1944 #hungary

sankosy5@...
 

Dear friends -

As always these wonderful H-SIGgers have helped me fill in some more blanks, and
thanks to some terrific folks, I was able to track down data about my ancestor
Ernest/Erno SEIDNER (1892 - 1958) who emigrated to and died in Australia. He had
no children. The grave photos, however, have triggered more questions for me.......

Years ago, a distant older relative - Ernest's niece - told me that while she and
her mother had survived the Holocaust by hiding, that her grandparents (Ernest's
parents) and family had taken refuge in the Portuguese Embassy. She told me that
the embassy had been stormed by the Arrow Cross and that this SEIDNER family was
sent to the camps where they were killed.

Well, the photo of Ernest's grave in Australia has a tribute to his parents and
brother who died in "Budapest in 1944".

Does anyone know anything specific about a raid on the Portuguese Embassy? I do
know that the Arrow Cross stormed neutral places, but is there any more information
about this embassy? I am wondering if this means that this family DIDN'T get to
the camps (I could never find their names on those databases), but was either
martyred on-site, or marched to the Danube to suffer the same fate as so many
other Jews. Or perhaps they DID get sent to the camps, but Ernest felt it was easier
to put "Budapest" on the stone.

Ernest himself died of chronic kidney/urinary issues, consistent with injury, and also
beri-beri which is connected to malnutrition. To me, this seems consistent with
possible concentration camp, ghetto, or beatings experience. Perhaps he himself
was not in the embassy.

I realize that ultimately this may seem trivial to some, when perhaps it should be
enough to know that the family was martyred, but I feel an obligation to know as
much as possible in order to honour their memory.

If anyone can direct me to a source where I could learn some more about the role of
the Portuguese embassy in Budapest at this time, I would be most grateful. Please
respond directly to me unless you think that the information would be of interest to the group.

With sincere thanks,

Michele Sankar
Richmond Hill, Ontario


Other Hungarian Census update #hungary

Eric M. Bloch
 

Great news! We're pleased to announce the addition of 6,800 records to
the Hungarian [Jewish] Census Records 1770-1850 database.
<http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/CensusOther.htm> . This
brings our total to 56,000 records!

The newly added data covers the following Hungarian counties and years:

Borsod 1771
Komarom 1771
Nograd 1774, 1775
Nyitra 1770, 1771
Pest-Pilis-Solt 1857 Family List for Waitzen (Vacz)
Pozsony post-1850 Family Lists >from Rabbinical Records
Saros 1771
Sopron 1771, 1772, 1774
Szatmar 1771
Vas 1771, 1774
Zemplen 1774

Other counties are currently being transcribed for the 1770-1775 period.

Unfortunately, the majority of names in the Jewish Censuses of 1770-1775
use patronymics in place of surnames. Thus, the information may be of
limited value unless you know the families you are tracing lived in a
certain town in the 18th century. One of the more interesting bits of
data in the records is whether the individual was born in the Kingdom of
Hungary, or not; and if not, how long they had resided in Hungary.

In a few cases, we have included the occupation, especially for rabbis,
cantors, and shochets. Occupation and other information about
individuals was included in the census but this was not transcribed
since it was in Latin and would have added considerable complication to
our transcription efforts. If you are successful in finding an
ancestor, we encourage you to obtain the microfilm and view the original
record yourself.

Thanks again to our transcription team for their wonderful work.

Happy hunting!

Eric M. Bloch, Coordinator
Other Hungarian Census project


Hungary SIG #Hungary Other Hungarian Census update #hungary

Eric M. Bloch
 

Great news! We're pleased to announce the addition of 6,800 records to
the Hungarian [Jewish] Census Records 1770-1850 database.
<http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/CensusOther.htm> . This
brings our total to 56,000 records!

The newly added data covers the following Hungarian counties and years:

Borsod 1771
Komarom 1771
Nograd 1774, 1775
Nyitra 1770, 1771
Pest-Pilis-Solt 1857 Family List for Waitzen (Vacz)
Pozsony post-1850 Family Lists >from Rabbinical Records
Saros 1771
Sopron 1771, 1772, 1774
Szatmar 1771
Vas 1771, 1774
Zemplen 1774

Other counties are currently being transcribed for the 1770-1775 period.

Unfortunately, the majority of names in the Jewish Censuses of 1770-1775
use patronymics in place of surnames. Thus, the information may be of
limited value unless you know the families you are tracing lived in a
certain town in the 18th century. One of the more interesting bits of
data in the records is whether the individual was born in the Kingdom of
Hungary, or not; and if not, how long they had resided in Hungary.

In a few cases, we have included the occupation, especially for rabbis,
cantors, and shochets. Occupation and other information about
individuals was included in the census but this was not transcribed
since it was in Latin and would have added considerable complication to
our transcription efforts. If you are successful in finding an
ancestor, we encourage you to obtain the microfilm and view the original
record yourself.

Thanks again to our transcription team for their wonderful work.

Happy hunting!

Eric M. Bloch, Coordinator
Other Hungarian Census project


Budapest 1880s Vital Records #hungary

GladPropp@...
 

Hello Can anyone tell me who to write to to find out the marriage and
death date for people born in Budapest, Hungary probably in the late 1800's
I have the birth dates for these people.

Gladys Propper
gladpropp@aol.com

Moderator: Check H-SIG message archives for discussions on this subject and information
about on-line resources.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Budapest 1880s Vital Records #hungary

GladPropp@...
 

Hello Can anyone tell me who to write to to find out the marriage and
death date for people born in Budapest, Hungary probably in the late 1800's
I have the birth dates for these people.

Gladys Propper
gladpropp@aol.com

Moderator: Check H-SIG message archives for discussions on this subject and information
about on-line resources.


Searching for Contact Info in Israel #hungary

ljkraus@...
 

To those who are looking for persons in Israel, the English version for
finding phone numbers and addresses is
http://english.b144.co.il/Default.aspx
Good hunting and Happy Pessach
Leah Kraus
Haifa, Israel


1. question re. Andor Friem
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Subject: question re. Andor Friem
From: evdarvas@umich.edu
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:35:36 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

hello!
does anyone know Andor Friem, whose last known address
was Petach-Tikva, <snip>, in Israel?
thanks much for any help.
Eva Darvas

Moderator: Please respond off-list if you can help.
Per JewishGen policies, street address is not shown.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Searching for Contact Info in Israel #hungary

ljkraus@...
 

To those who are looking for persons in Israel, the English version for
finding phone numbers and addresses is
http://english.b144.co.il/Default.aspx
Good hunting and Happy Pessach
Leah Kraus
Haifa, Israel


1. question re. Andor Friem
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: question re. Andor Friem
From: evdarvas@umich.edu
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:35:36 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

hello!
does anyone know Andor Friem, whose last known address
was Petach-Tikva, <snip>, in Israel?
thanks much for any help.
Eva Darvas

Moderator: Please respond off-list if you can help.
Per JewishGen policies, street address is not shown.


Seeking Information on:Chevra Tillem Kesher Yisrael, Montefiore Cemetery #belarus

AllanDolgow@...
 

from interment cards of my great grandparents it states the Plot owner
is Chevra Tillem Kesher Yisrael, at the Montefiore Cemetery, 12183
Springfield Boulevard, Queens, New York.

This I believe was the name of the burial society at this synagogue that
no longer exists.

Does anyone have additional information?

Please send it to me directly.

Allan Dolgow
West Sacramento, CA
MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen maintains an extensive database of burial records
at: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/


Belarus SIG #Belarus Seeking Information on:Chevra Tillem Kesher Yisrael, Montefiore Cemetery #belarus

AllanDolgow@...
 

from interment cards of my great grandparents it states the Plot owner
is Chevra Tillem Kesher Yisrael, at the Montefiore Cemetery, 12183
Springfield Boulevard, Queens, New York.

This I believe was the name of the burial society at this synagogue that
no longer exists.

Does anyone have additional information?

Please send it to me directly.

Allan Dolgow
West Sacramento, CA
MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen maintains an extensive database of burial records
at: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/


Searching: KAHANA-SHAPIRO, from Stolbsty to Lubny,Ukraine #belarus

Gayle Schlissel Riley
 

I know SHAPIRO is one the most common Jewish last names But maybe there is a
Shapiro out there who started out in Stolbsty, Belarus or Timikovichi, Belarus
and then went to Lubny, Ukraine. I am told we are KAHANA-SHAPIRO.
Benjamin Isaac wife Rifka Moskovitz had the following children Morris, Ahron,
Jacob, Nathan, Yitchuk and Yomtov Gutman..Does any of this ring a bell?

Gayle Schlissel Riley

San Gabriel, CA
Respond privately


Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching: KAHANA-SHAPIRO, from Stolbsty to Lubny,Ukraine #belarus

Gayle Schlissel Riley
 

I know SHAPIRO is one the most common Jewish last names But maybe there is a
Shapiro out there who started out in Stolbsty, Belarus or Timikovichi, Belarus
and then went to Lubny, Ukraine. I am told we are KAHANA-SHAPIRO.
Benjamin Isaac wife Rifka Moskovitz had the following children Morris, Ahron,
Jacob, Nathan, Yitchuk and Yomtov Gutman..Does any of this ring a bell?

Gayle Schlissel Riley

San Gabriel, CA
Respond privately


Other Hungarian Census update #general

Eric M. Bloch
 

Great news! We're pleased to announce the addition of 6,800 records
to the Hungarian [Jewish] Census Records 1770-1850 database.
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/CensusOther.htm >.
This brings our total to 56,000 records!

The newly added data covers the following Hungarian counties and years:

Borsod 1771
Komarom 1771
Nograd 1774, 1775
Nyitra 1770, 1771
Pest-Pilis-Solt 1857 Family List for Waitzen (Vacz)
Pozsony post-1850 Family Lists >from Rabbinical Records
Saros 1771
Sopron 1771, 1772, 1774
Szatmar 1771
Vas 1771, 1774
Zemplen 1774

Other counties are currently being transcribed for the 1770-1775 period.

Unfortunately, the majority of names in the Jewish Censuses of 1770-1775
use patronymics in place of surnames. Thus, the information may be of
limited value unless you know the families you are tracing lived in a
certain town in the 18th century. One of the more interesting bits of
data in the records is whether the individual was born in the Kingdom of
Hungary, or not; and if not, how long they had resided in Hungary.

In a few cases, we have included the occupation, especially for rabbis,
cantors, and shochets. Occupation and other information about
individuals was included in the census but this was not transcribed
since it was in Latin and would have added considerable complication to
our transcription efforts. If you are successful in finding an
ancestor, we encourage you to obtain the microfilm and view the original
record yourself.

Thanks again to our transcription team for their wonderful work.

Happy hunting!

Eric M. Bloch, Coordinator
Other Hungarian Census project


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Other Hungarian Census update #general

Eric M. Bloch
 

Great news! We're pleased to announce the addition of 6,800 records
to the Hungarian [Jewish] Census Records 1770-1850 database.
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/CensusOther.htm >.
This brings our total to 56,000 records!

The newly added data covers the following Hungarian counties and years:

Borsod 1771
Komarom 1771
Nograd 1774, 1775
Nyitra 1770, 1771
Pest-Pilis-Solt 1857 Family List for Waitzen (Vacz)
Pozsony post-1850 Family Lists >from Rabbinical Records
Saros 1771
Sopron 1771, 1772, 1774
Szatmar 1771
Vas 1771, 1774
Zemplen 1774

Other counties are currently being transcribed for the 1770-1775 period.

Unfortunately, the majority of names in the Jewish Censuses of 1770-1775
use patronymics in place of surnames. Thus, the information may be of
limited value unless you know the families you are tracing lived in a
certain town in the 18th century. One of the more interesting bits of
data in the records is whether the individual was born in the Kingdom of
Hungary, or not; and if not, how long they had resided in Hungary.

In a few cases, we have included the occupation, especially for rabbis,
cantors, and shochets. Occupation and other information about
individuals was included in the census but this was not transcribed
since it was in Latin and would have added considerable complication to
our transcription efforts. If you are successful in finding an
ancestor, we encourage you to obtain the microfilm and view the original
record yourself.

Thanks again to our transcription team for their wonderful work.

Happy hunting!

Eric M. Bloch, Coordinator
Other Hungarian Census project


Przedborz - Horses & Beer? #general

Isabel Cymerman
 

Dear Genners,
Some time ago I read that my ancestral town of Przedborz, Poland was known
for its horse fair as well as its beer. Cannot remember where I read
this. Can anyone confirm or refute?

Many thanks.

Isabel Cymerman
Roxbury, CT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Przedborz - Horses & Beer? #general

Isabel Cymerman
 

Dear Genners,
Some time ago I read that my ancestral town of Przedborz, Poland was known
for its horse fair as well as its beer. Cannot remember where I read
this. Can anyone confirm or refute?

Many thanks.

Isabel Cymerman
Roxbury, CT


Thanks #poland

DR. Yoram Rossler <yrossler@...>
 

A few days ago I posted a request for the translation of a text >from Polish
to English. The text was a message >from the APK Nowy Sacz department. I was
pleasently surprised to receive several responses with the requested
translation and also tips that assisted me in furthering my research of the
ROSSLER family.

So, to all of you, apart >from the personal thanks I sent to their e-mails,
thank you again for the cooperation. It warms my heart to find real
friendship within the group.

Dr. Yoram Rossler


JRI Poland #Poland Thanks #poland

DR. Yoram Rossler <yrossler@...>
 

A few days ago I posted a request for the translation of a text >from Polish
to English. The text was a message >from the APK Nowy Sacz department. I was
pleasently surprised to receive several responses with the requested
translation and also tips that assisted me in furthering my research of the
ROSSLER family.

So, to all of you, apart >from the personal thanks I sent to their e-mails,
thank you again for the cooperation. It warms my heart to find real
friendship within the group.

Dr. Yoram Rossler


jonora@...
 

Although I am not on GENI , it seems to me that the problems associated with
this could be overcome in the following way. Keep your own tree on your
computer. Put your tree on Geni, and then use Geni only to see where others
are taking it and take >from it those things that interest you and put them
into your personal tree, ignoring where it goes, unless you have something
else to add that fits with the new directions it is going. That way you
would "have your cake and eat it". You would keep control of your tree but
get the new stuff if it shows up
Nora HELLER FREUND.
Also searching Bondy, Eckstein, Kohns >from Neustadl and Drahomischl Bohemia.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech geni #austria-czech

jonora@...
 

Although I am not on GENI , it seems to me that the problems associated with
this could be overcome in the following way. Keep your own tree on your
computer. Put your tree on Geni, and then use Geni only to see where others
are taking it and take >from it those things that interest you and put them
into your personal tree, ignoring where it goes, unless you have something
else to add that fits with the new directions it is going. That way you
would "have your cake and eat it". You would keep control of your tree but
get the new stuff if it shows up
Nora HELLER FREUND.
Also searching Bondy, Eckstein, Kohns >from Neustadl and Drahomischl Bohemia.