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Re: general store in Satoraljauhely #hungary

tom
 

welcome to (hungarian) jewish genealogy!

i can't help you much with satoraljaujhely, although i'm sure others
here can, but i can point out that KLEIN is one of the most common
hungarian jewish names, and, as my mother used to point out, there
was (at least) one KLEIN family in every town and village in hungary,
and generally speaking not related to one another.

just for fun, look up KLEIN and a few other "typical jewish names" in
the 1891 industry and trade directory on bogardi.com:
<http://www.bogardi.com/gen/>, which shows both frequency of
occurrence, and their geographic distribution. it's an interesting
tool.


....... tom klein, toronto

judi@... wrote:

I am presently taking a class on JewishGen and my professor suggested I
write and see if anyone has any knowledge of a general store in
Satoraljauhely owned by the KLEIN family in the early 1900's. My
greatgrandfather was Yehuda Lieb (Louis or Lajos) KLEIN, and my grandmother,
Tovah (Etel) KLEIN worked there as a child before she came to the US in
1921. I was also told by my grandmother that the mountains started at the
end of their street, although I have no address. Thank you in advance for
any suggestions.
Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: general store in Satoraljauhely #hungary

tom
 

welcome to (hungarian) jewish genealogy!

i can't help you much with satoraljaujhely, although i'm sure others
here can, but i can point out that KLEIN is one of the most common
hungarian jewish names, and, as my mother used to point out, there
was (at least) one KLEIN family in every town and village in hungary,
and generally speaking not related to one another.

just for fun, look up KLEIN and a few other "typical jewish names" in
the 1891 industry and trade directory on bogardi.com:
<http://www.bogardi.com/gen/>, which shows both frequency of
occurrence, and their geographic distribution. it's an interesting
tool.


....... tom klein, toronto

judi@... wrote:

I am presently taking a class on JewishGen and my professor suggested I
write and see if anyone has any knowledge of a general store in
Satoraljauhely owned by the KLEIN family in the early 1900's. My
greatgrandfather was Yehuda Lieb (Louis or Lajos) KLEIN, and my grandmother,
Tovah (Etel) KLEIN worked there as a child before she came to the US in
1921. I was also told by my grandmother that the mountains started at the
end of their street, although I have no address. Thank you in advance for
any suggestions.
LILLIAN LIPSCHITZ- Social Security application arrives, not mine, yours? #general

babycat3@...
 

I received the application copy for Lillian LIPSCHITZ, born in NYC in 1929. The
SSDI >from which I ordered the app read Lillian KAFLOWITZ, that is an error it
seems. It seems the surname on the SSDI is wrong. If Lillian is connected to your
family, kindly contact me and I will be glad to send the app to you.

Her father is listed as Jack LIPSCHITZ, her mother is listed as Esther SOBEL.

Please contact me privately.

Barbara Klein Meyers
babycat3@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LILLIAN LIPSCHITZ- Social Security application arrives, not mine, yours? #general

babycat3@...
 

I received the application copy for Lillian LIPSCHITZ, born in NYC in 1929. The
SSDI >from which I ordered the app read Lillian KAFLOWITZ, that is an error it
seems. It seems the surname on the SSDI is wrong. If Lillian is connected to your
family, kindly contact me and I will be glad to send the app to you.

Her father is listed as Jack LIPSCHITZ, her mother is listed as Esther SOBEL.

Please contact me privately.

Barbara Klein Meyers
babycat3@...
Gets #general

EarthLink
 

I seem to recall that there is a database of Gets in the USA somewhere. Can anyone
point me in the direction of finding one in New York circa 1895?
Thank you
Saralea Altman
Los Angeles
Researching Altman >from Sverzhen Belarus
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gets #general

EarthLink
 

I seem to recall that there is a database of Gets in the USA somewhere. Can anyone
point me in the direction of finding one in New York circa 1895?
Thank you
Saralea Altman
Los Angeles
Researching Altman >from Sverzhen Belarus
Re: Galician Military Records #galicia

Cyndi Norwitz
 

I want to thank you for this link. It does seem that I have found family members
here.

But I am wondering if you or anyone else has been able to view documents. Some
docs are not viewable but the rest are supposed to be available if you have their
plug in. I downloaded and installed the Mac version of the plug in (which you have
to do >from their page, not by clicking "get plug in" >from the place where the
picture is supposed to be). I confirmed that the plug in was installed correctly
and enabled in Firefox (they say it doesn't work in Safari but they swear it works
in Firefox). I still get the same big blank black square where the document is
supposed to be, with the "get the plug in" icon.

I thought maybe it was a Mac thing but someone else trying to see the same docs
reported to me that he has a PC and couldn't manage to view the documents either.

Thanks,
Cyndi Norwitz

Ittai Hershman wrote:
As a reminder of an additional valuable resource reported by Joe
Slater on H-Sig, 16 Feb 2011: > You can find the digitised documents at this
address: http://kramerius.nkp.cz/kramerius/Welcome.do"
MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately to Cyndi. Perhaps Cyndi will submit a
follow up message with the fix. This will avoid having lots of messages come
through the moderators' desk about a computer issue which is off-topic for us
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Galician Military Records #general

Cyndi Norwitz
 

I want to thank you for this link. It does seem that I have found family members
here.

But I am wondering if you or anyone else has been able to view documents. Some
docs are not viewable but the rest are supposed to be available if you have their
plug in. I downloaded and installed the Mac version of the plug in (which you have
to do >from their page, not by clicking "get plug in" >from the place where the
picture is supposed to be). I confirmed that the plug in was installed correctly
and enabled in Firefox (they say it doesn't work in Safari but they swear it works
in Firefox). I still get the same big blank black square where the document is
supposed to be, with the "get the plug in" icon.

I thought maybe it was a Mac thing but someone else trying to see the same docs
reported to me that he has a PC and couldn't manage to view the documents either.

Thanks,
Cyndi Norwitz

Ittai Hershman wrote:
As a reminder of an additional valuable resource reported by Joe
Slater on H-Sig, 16 Feb 2011: > You can find the digitised documents at this
address: http://kramerius.nkp.cz/kramerius/Welcome.do"
MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately to Cyndi. Perhaps Cyndi will submit a
follow up message with the fix. This will avoid having lots of messages come
through the moderators' desk about a computer issue which is off-topic for us
Identifying Locations #ukraine

cmw521@...
 

In the past few days, there have been a few requests to identify places that
have been found on various records, including passenger manifests and
various other documents. Since the names suggested in these documents do
not correspond with any known places, it would be much more helpful to post
the document on ViewMate and let more eyes have a look at it. What might
seem clear to you (or what might have come >from a transcription, in which
case who knows what it might be), might actually be interpreted by someone
else with knowledge of the location, differently. I am familiar with many
of the towns and localities in Ukraine, and I have never heard of many of
these places. I also consult gazetteers, like "Where Once We Walked", and
they show nothing remotely like these places. Please, unless a document is
typewritten, never assume your interpretation of a name or a place name, is
the only correct possibility. If you are looking at a transcription of a
document in Ancestry or other web sites, understand these documents were
transcribed by volunteers who were instructed to make their best guess as to
what a word was and move on. Few of them were familiar with place names or
Jewish names. Although handwriting was much more florid in the 19th century
and early 20th century, it is not always easy to decipher. That is why we
have ViewMate on JewishGen.

Chuck Weinstein
Towns and Districts Director, Ukraine SIG
Cmw521@...
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Identifying Locations #ukraine

cmw521@...
 

In the past few days, there have been a few requests to identify places that
have been found on various records, including passenger manifests and
various other documents. Since the names suggested in these documents do
not correspond with any known places, it would be much more helpful to post
the document on ViewMate and let more eyes have a look at it. What might
seem clear to you (or what might have come >from a transcription, in which
case who knows what it might be), might actually be interpreted by someone
else with knowledge of the location, differently. I am familiar with many
of the towns and localities in Ukraine, and I have never heard of many of
these places. I also consult gazetteers, like "Where Once We Walked", and
they show nothing remotely like these places. Please, unless a document is
typewritten, never assume your interpretation of a name or a place name, is
the only correct possibility. If you are looking at a transcription of a
document in Ancestry or other web sites, understand these documents were
transcribed by volunteers who were instructed to make their best guess as to
what a word was and move on. Few of them were familiar with place names or
Jewish names. Although handwriting was much more florid in the 19th century
and early 20th century, it is not always easy to decipher. That is why we
have ViewMate on JewishGen.

Chuck Weinstein
Towns and Districts Director, Ukraine SIG
Cmw521@...
Chaya (Chaika) WISEMAN #ukraine

rmsackheim@...
 

Does anyone have any information about the ancestors of Chaya (Chaika)
WISEMAN, the wife of NACHMAN OF BRASLAV'S first cousin thrice removed?
Birth: 1881
Death: 1966 (85)
Liverpool, Merseyside, UK
She was the
Daughter of Dovid Zalig WISEMAN (died 1913) and Rosa RAISA
Wife of Moshe BARRON
Mother of Abraham BARRON, Rabbi Shalom BARRON, Isaac BARRON, Srullick
BARRON, and Basya (Bessie) BARRON
Sister of Shprintzer Gittel WISEMAN and Yechiel Moshe WISEMAN

Sincerely,

Ruth Sackheim
Chicago, IL, U.S.A.
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Chaya (Chaika) WISEMAN #ukraine

rmsackheim@...
 

Does anyone have any information about the ancestors of Chaya (Chaika)
WISEMAN, the wife of NACHMAN OF BRASLAV'S first cousin thrice removed?
Birth: 1881
Death: 1966 (85)
Liverpool, Merseyside, UK
She was the
Daughter of Dovid Zalig WISEMAN (died 1913) and Rosa RAISA
Wife of Moshe BARRON
Mother of Abraham BARRON, Rabbi Shalom BARRON, Isaac BARRON, Srullick
BARRON, and Basya (Bessie) BARRON
Sister of Shprintzer Gittel WISEMAN and Yechiel Moshe WISEMAN

Sincerely,

Ruth Sackheim
Chicago, IL, U.S.A.
Karoulisnish #ukraine

b848ear@...
 

On a ww2 registration card, a man has clearly written
Karoulisnish, Russia, as his place of birth in the 1880s.

I think this is in the Ukraine but can anyone confirm
where, exactly? I have tried searching for it in JGen town
names, but nothing comes up.

Can anyone confirm if it is anywhere near Woloschysk/Volochisk,
in Volhynia? If so, where, and if not where?

Many thanks

B Shiel (UK)
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Karoulisnish #ukraine

b848ear@...
 

On a ww2 registration card, a man has clearly written
Karoulisnish, Russia, as his place of birth in the 1880s.

I think this is in the Ukraine but can anyone confirm
where, exactly? I have tried searching for it in JGen town
names, but nothing comes up.

Can anyone confirm if it is anywhere near Woloschysk/Volochisk,
in Volhynia? If so, where, and if not where?

Many thanks

B Shiel (UK)
Babi Yar #ukraine

Marilyn Robinson
 

There is an alphabetical online list which includes some of
those killed in Babi Yar, by the Public Committee To Commemorate
the Victims of Babi Yar, based on information from,
"Memory Book: Babi Yar" (IM Levitas, 1999). It is in either
Russian or Ukrainian (I'm not sure which, but probably Ukrainian)
at: http://www.kby.kiev.ua/komitet/ru/membook/memory-book-baby-yar/192.html
There is a search box on the site but you'd have to enter the
information in Russian or Ukrainian.
Some ages and some addresses are included.

Download any of the following, to convert the website into the
language of your choice, if necessary:

1. Google Chrome - For PC, Mac, and Linux
www.google.com/chrome

and/or

2. http://www.google.com/language_tools

3. or download Google Toolbar (with translation capability for
IE or Firefox browsers):
http://www.google.com/toolbar/ff/index.html#tracking=1&utm_
campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-bk&utm_medium=ha&utm_
term=google%20tool%20bar&tbbrand=GZAG

4. There is also "Googlebar lite" an extension for Mozilla
Firefox, downloadable at:https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/
firefox/addon/googlebar-lite/

A reader, also mentioned that if you have the latest version
of Internet Explorer (IE 9) you can '...easily translate the
webpages by right clicking with your mouse and selecting
"translate with Bing...'

Marilyn Robinson
Florida
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Babi Yar #ukraine

Marilyn Robinson
 

There is an alphabetical online list which includes some of
those killed in Babi Yar, by the Public Committee To Commemorate
the Victims of Babi Yar, based on information from,
"Memory Book: Babi Yar" (IM Levitas, 1999). It is in either
Russian or Ukrainian (I'm not sure which, but probably Ukrainian)
at: http://www.kby.kiev.ua/komitet/ru/membook/memory-book-baby-yar/192.html
There is a search box on the site but you'd have to enter the
information in Russian or Ukrainian.
Some ages and some addresses are included.

Download any of the following, to convert the website into the
language of your choice, if necessary:

1. Google Chrome - For PC, Mac, and Linux
www.google.com/chrome

and/or

2. http://www.google.com/language_tools

3. or download Google Toolbar (with translation capability for
IE or Firefox browsers):
http://www.google.com/toolbar/ff/index.html#tracking=1&utm_
campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-bk&utm_medium=ha&utm_
term=google%20tool%20bar&tbbrand=GZAG

4. There is also "Googlebar lite" an extension for Mozilla
Firefox, downloadable at:https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/
firefox/addon/googlebar-lite/

A reader, also mentioned that if you have the latest version
of Internet Explorer (IE 9) you can '...easily translate the
webpages by right clicking with your mouse and selecting
"translate with Bing...'

Marilyn Robinson
Florida
Ekaterinoslav Business Directory #ukraine

Marilyn Levinson
 

I have a copy of the Ekaterinoslav Business Directory of 1913.
It is 161 pages. My ggrandfather Isaiah Janowski was the manager
of a brewery in Ekaterinoslav (the city in the province) at this time.
Because of the size of this document it cannot be translated on line
using the usual sites. I am trying to find someone who reads Russian
who could skim this directory and tell me if any breweries are listed.
Marilyn Levinson
Spring Lake NC
_wallachlevinson@...
Researching JANOWSKI-Shepetovka and Ekaterinoslav City Ukraine
SOFFER (SAPHIR) Teofipol Ukraine
FIXLER Chotin Moldova
WALLACH Lipcani Moldova
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Ekaterinoslav Business Directory #ukraine

Marilyn Levinson
 

I have a copy of the Ekaterinoslav Business Directory of 1913.
It is 161 pages. My ggrandfather Isaiah Janowski was the manager
of a brewery in Ekaterinoslav (the city in the province) at this time.
Because of the size of this document it cannot be translated on line
using the usual sites. I am trying to find someone who reads Russian
who could skim this directory and tell me if any breweries are listed.
Marilyn Levinson
Spring Lake NC
_wallachlevinson@...
Researching JANOWSKI-Shepetovka and Ekaterinoslav City Ukraine
SOFFER (SAPHIR) Teofipol Ukraine
FIXLER Chotin Moldova
WALLACH Lipcani Moldova
gravestone inscription #ukraine

Marilyn Levinson
 

I recently visited the grave site of my grandmother Dora YANOW
Under her name in English was a Hebrew inscription
that read
Dvora bat R Moshe Ha levy
Does anyone know the significance of the letter "R"
Would it be an initial for an additional first name or is there
some other possibility?
Marilyn Levinson
Spring Lake NC
_wallachlevinson@... (mailto:wallachlevinson@...)
Researching JANOWSKI (JANOW) Shepetovka and Ekaterinoslav City Ukraine
SOFFER (SAPHIR) Teofipol Ukraine
FIXLER Chotin Moldova
WALLACH Lipcani Moldova
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine gravestone inscription #ukraine

Marilyn Levinson
 

I recently visited the grave site of my grandmother Dora YANOW
Under her name in English was a Hebrew inscription
that read
Dvora bat R Moshe Ha levy
Does anyone know the significance of the letter "R"
Would it be an initial for an additional first name or is there
some other possibility?
Marilyn Levinson
Spring Lake NC
_wallachlevinson@... (mailto:wallachlevinson@...)
Researching JANOWSKI (JANOW) Shepetovka and Ekaterinoslav City Ukraine
SOFFER (SAPHIR) Teofipol Ukraine
FIXLER Chotin Moldova
WALLACH Lipcani Moldova
181621 - 181640 of 669659