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Deaths in Belgium #general

Israel P
 

Does anyone know where to find information on deaths in Belgium? I don't have a date,
but it would be post-Holocaust. I am looking for a date and burial information.

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Deaths in Belgium #general

Israel P
 

Does anyone know where to find information on deaths in Belgium? I don't have a date,
but it would be post-Holocaust. I am looking for a date and burial information.

Israel Pickholtz


Re: no match with my sister #dna

Pesha Lea
 

I am new to DNA testing. But my view is the following. The Y DNA
test is more definitive in determining if two men are >from the same
male line. But if the Y test is negative that is not the end of the
story. For the time period in Europe that we are interested in,
children often took their mothers surname. In my grandmothers family
the mothers surname was used until my g-grandparents got married
through the city when my grandmother was 25 years old. At that point
the children (in there 20's and 30's) became legitimate retroactively
and began using their fathers surname. So if the Y DNA test is
negative it is still useful to conduct an autosomal test to see if
there is a non-male-line relationship. If you only use the Y DNA test
you will miss all of the relatives who used their mothers surname.

Debbie Estis
Murrieta, CA

Researching: GOLDBERG OF Lviv, MENGELGRUN of Brengel near Krakow,
LIPSHUTZ of Lviv, ESTIS of Kasitin, MANDEL of Lviv, SCHACTER of
Kasitin, BARACH, of Bialystok.


DNA Research #DNA Re: no match with my sister #dna

Pesha Lea
 

I am new to DNA testing. But my view is the following. The Y DNA
test is more definitive in determining if two men are >from the same
male line. But if the Y test is negative that is not the end of the
story. For the time period in Europe that we are interested in,
children often took their mothers surname. In my grandmothers family
the mothers surname was used until my g-grandparents got married
through the city when my grandmother was 25 years old. At that point
the children (in there 20's and 30's) became legitimate retroactively
and began using their fathers surname. So if the Y DNA test is
negative it is still useful to conduct an autosomal test to see if
there is a non-male-line relationship. If you only use the Y DNA test
you will miss all of the relatives who used their mothers surname.

Debbie Estis
Murrieta, CA

Researching: GOLDBERG OF Lviv, MENGELGRUN of Brengel near Krakow,
LIPSHUTZ of Lviv, ESTIS of Kasitin, MANDEL of Lviv, SCHACTER of
Kasitin, BARACH, of Bialystok.


Boston Jewish Advocate - Sept 1971 #general

Israel P
 

Is there someone with easy access to the Boston Jewish Advocate >from Septemer 23
1971?

I would like to see an actual death notice. (I saw what is in the JewishGen database
for the paper.)

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Boston Jewish Advocate - Sept 1971 #general

Israel P
 

Is there someone with easy access to the Boston Jewish Advocate >from Septemer 23
1971?

I would like to see an actual death notice. (I saw what is in the JewishGen database
for the paper.)

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


Looking for a person to photograph headstones in Romania #general

Jessica Zering
 

Hello all!
First of all, I want to thank those who responded to my last question regarding
migration patterns in Romania. I appreciate all the history lessons!

I am looking for someone who is able to photograph grave sites/headstones for me.
It's for 3 people. They are located in the Radautz Jewish Cemetery in Radauti,
Radautz, Romania. I am happy to pay you for your time! If you are able to do this,
please contact me at my email address: pharmsciencegirl@yahoo.com. We can work out
the details then.
Jessica Zering
Pullman, Washington


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for a person to photograph headstones in Romania #general

Jessica Zering
 

Hello all!
First of all, I want to thank those who responded to my last question regarding
migration patterns in Romania. I appreciate all the history lessons!

I am looking for someone who is able to photograph grave sites/headstones for me.
It's for 3 people. They are located in the Radautz Jewish Cemetery in Radauti,
Radautz, Romania. I am happy to pay you for your time! If you are able to do this,
please contact me at my email address: pharmsciencegirl@yahoo.com. We can work out
the details then.
Jessica Zering
Pullman, Washington


Why put it online, in particular why blog? #general

Israel P
 

Since I began putting family information online (leaving out details about the
living), quite a few new branches of my families have fallen into my net. Generally
these are not folks who have a great interest in their roots, but are perhaps
people who in a moment of boredom google their own names to see what comes up.

For the past year, I have ramped up my online presence with a weekly blog,
allmyforeparents.blogspot.com . One of those blog posts, >from October, was
"Leo Pickholz - Secret Agent?" The only contact I had who actually knew him was
a retired intelligence agent in Florida.

I had birth records for Leo and eleven siblings, but aside >from one child
each >from two of those siblings, I had nothing.

Today I heard >from a man in London, who somehow had seen my post. His grandmother
was the sister born before Leo. He remembers his mother going to visit Leo in his
retirement in Lugano Switzerland. He himself knew others of the siblings - a singer
at La Scala in Milan, a soccer player at Rapide Vienna and others.

We are just getting started. In a few weeks, I'll blog about it. Count in it.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Why put it online, in particular why blog? #general

Israel P
 

Since I began putting family information online (leaving out details about the
living), quite a few new branches of my families have fallen into my net. Generally
these are not folks who have a great interest in their roots, but are perhaps
people who in a moment of boredom google their own names to see what comes up.

For the past year, I have ramped up my online presence with a weekly blog,
allmyforeparents.blogspot.com . One of those blog posts, >from October, was
"Leo Pickholz - Secret Agent?" The only contact I had who actually knew him was
a retired intelligence agent in Florida.

I had birth records for Leo and eleven siblings, but aside >from one child
each >from two of those siblings, I had nothing.

Today I heard >from a man in London, who somehow had seen my post. His grandmother
was the sister born before Leo. He remembers his mother going to visit Leo in his
retirement in Lugano Switzerland. He himself knew others of the siblings - a singer
at La Scala in Milan, a soccer player at Rapide Vienna and others.

We are just getting started. In a few weeks, I'll blog about it. Count in it.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


World War I Photos in the Baltics #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

A fascinating look at what was going on during World War I in the Baltics when
the Germans invaded the area can be found on the following site:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/65817306@N00/128874131/in/set-486575/.

There are 175 photos of soldiers, bombings, towns, refugees, floods, and other
things which reflect what was occurring when the expulsion of our ancestors
occurred as they were moved further eastward out of the area. There is also
another link on the site which is located beneath this one which has the Baltics
and other places and has thousands of photos which you can peruse.

The photos show the damage to the towns >from bombings which our ancestors saw
upon their return at the end of the War. There are also aerial views of some
towns and even photos of the German Kaiser visiting Jelgava during the War.
Some towns mentioned are Bauska, Jelgava, Mazeikiai, Riga, Siauliai, Tartu,
Vilkaviskis, Wirballen, to name a few. Some of these photos show views of towns
which are quite priceless.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen World War I Photos in the Baltics #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

A fascinating look at what was going on during World War I in the Baltics when
the Germans invaded the area can be found on the following site:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/65817306@N00/128874131/in/set-486575/.

There are 175 photos of soldiers, bombings, towns, refugees, floods, and other
things which reflect what was occurring when the expulsion of our ancestors
occurred as they were moved further eastward out of the area. There is also
another link on the site which is located beneath this one which has the Baltics
and other places and has thousands of photos which you can peruse.

The photos show the damage to the towns >from bombings which our ancestors saw
upon their return at the end of the War. There are also aerial views of some
towns and even photos of the German Kaiser visiting Jelgava during the War.
Some towns mentioned are Bauska, Jelgava, Mazeikiai, Riga, Siauliai, Tartu,
Vilkaviskis, Wirballen, to name a few. Some of these photos show views of towns
which are quite priceless.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Help translating ViewMate document-Hungarian #hungary

Jake Jacobs
 

If you could help me translate a legal document, I would be most
grateful. My mom's uncle diedin the Holocaust (I believe), and this is a
claim of some sort. While I don't need a word for word translation, I
would appreciate knowing the general substance, addresses and names and
relationships. ViewMate 25745-25746. Thank you!

Diane jacobs
Austin, Texas

Moderator: Please respond using ViewMate form.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Help translating ViewMate document-Hungarian #hungary

Jake Jacobs
 

If you could help me translate a legal document, I would be most
grateful. My mom's uncle diedin the Holocaust (I believe), and this is a
claim of some sort. While I don't need a word for word translation, I
would appreciate knowing the general substance, addresses and names and
relationships. ViewMate 25745-25746. Thank you!

Diane jacobs
Austin, Texas

Moderator: Please respond using ViewMate form.


FROMOWITZ FARKAS Bedo Bilovartsi Maramaros #hungary

fredsoph@...
 

Dear all,

I am new in genealogy and I am searching for Fromowitz and Farkas in Bedo
and Bilovartsi (Kis-Kirva) in Maramaros.

I was then able to find the date of birth of my grandma's grandfather,
Iczhok Jakob Farkas on 10 March 1868 in Bedo (Maramaros) son of Moszes Dovid
and Freida Leizerovits (source Romanian National Archives Baia Mare branch
Register Book 273 17-15.  I was able to find some brothers and sisters of
Iczhok in the Maramaros database.  I could not find the parents of Moszes
and Freida ??? but I based myself on Farkas genealogy of Bedo made by a
cousin. 
 
I am also interested on the ascendancy of Abraham Boruch Fromowitz,
Farmer/apple merchant in Bilovartsi (Kis-Kirva) born circa 1890 ?, father of
my grandmother, who maried Kreindel Farkas born also circa 1890 in Bedo.  A
cousin still living in Israel and in his 90s (linked to the Farkas side)
told Millie  Abraham Boruch's mother was called Nachama...That is the sole
information.
 
In jewishgen, there are Fromowitz births in Bilovartsi and Bedo.  But how to
connect and how to find ?  The source is always the Romanian National
Archives of Baia Mare branch Register book 273 for Bedo and 276 for
Bilovartsi (the village nearby Bedo) There is a Boruch Fromowitz and his
wife Tobe who had children Chaje Rechel (a girl) born on 18/05/1876 in
Bilovartsi (Register book 276 92-04), Gerson Zelig born on 26/03/1868 but
died in 1869 (Register abook 276 91-05)
 
There are other couples in Bilovartsi (Kis-Kirva) and Bedo at the same time:
 
Fromowitz Chaskel and his wife Etye Katz : Chaje Rechel (25/01/1877)
(Bilovartsi in Register book 276) Fromowitz Salomon and Chane ?????: Hers
(16/01/1870) (Bedo Register Book 273 94-31) Fromowitz Sloma and Lea Chave
15/02/1862 but died in 1869 (Bilovartsi and Register book 276)
 
How to connect and to know who could be the ascendancy of Abraham Boruch
fromowitz ?  I need help.  How can read and consult these Romanian registers
Baia Mare for Bilovartsi and Bedo ?

Can someone help with the Romanian National Archives Baia Mare branch
Register Book Registers 273 and 276 ? I do not speak or read Hungarian.
 
Thank you very much for your help and all the best,

Fred Quevy


Hungary SIG #Hungary FROMOWITZ FARKAS Bedo Bilovartsi Maramaros #hungary

fredsoph@...
 

Dear all,

I am new in genealogy and I am searching for Fromowitz and Farkas in Bedo
and Bilovartsi (Kis-Kirva) in Maramaros.

I was then able to find the date of birth of my grandma's grandfather,
Iczhok Jakob Farkas on 10 March 1868 in Bedo (Maramaros) son of Moszes Dovid
and Freida Leizerovits (source Romanian National Archives Baia Mare branch
Register Book 273 17-15.  I was able to find some brothers and sisters of
Iczhok in the Maramaros database.  I could not find the parents of Moszes
and Freida ??? but I based myself on Farkas genealogy of Bedo made by a
cousin. 
 
I am also interested on the ascendancy of Abraham Boruch Fromowitz,
Farmer/apple merchant in Bilovartsi (Kis-Kirva) born circa 1890 ?, father of
my grandmother, who maried Kreindel Farkas born also circa 1890 in Bedo.  A
cousin still living in Israel and in his 90s (linked to the Farkas side)
told Millie  Abraham Boruch's mother was called Nachama...That is the sole
information.
 
In jewishgen, there are Fromowitz births in Bilovartsi and Bedo.  But how to
connect and how to find ?  The source is always the Romanian National
Archives of Baia Mare branch Register book 273 for Bedo and 276 for
Bilovartsi (the village nearby Bedo) There is a Boruch Fromowitz and his
wife Tobe who had children Chaje Rechel (a girl) born on 18/05/1876 in
Bilovartsi (Register book 276 92-04), Gerson Zelig born on 26/03/1868 but
died in 1869 (Register abook 276 91-05)
 
There are other couples in Bilovartsi (Kis-Kirva) and Bedo at the same time:
 
Fromowitz Chaskel and his wife Etye Katz : Chaje Rechel (25/01/1877)
(Bilovartsi in Register book 276) Fromowitz Salomon and Chane ?????: Hers
(16/01/1870) (Bedo Register Book 273 94-31) Fromowitz Sloma and Lea Chave
15/02/1862 but died in 1869 (Bilovartsi and Register book 276)
 
How to connect and to know who could be the ascendancy of Abraham Boruch
fromowitz ?  I need help.  How can read and consult these Romanian registers
Baia Mare for Bilovartsi and Bedo ?

Can someone help with the Romanian National Archives Baia Mare branch
Register Book Registers 273 and 276 ? I do not speak or read Hungarian.
 
Thank you very much for your help and all the best,

Fred Quevy


Re: Bor Labour Camp #hungary

mhollosi@...
 

Take a look at the following article in English about the labour camp: http://bhiweb.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/summary2011-11-09.pdf
This is the English summary of a monograph byTamás Csapody on the subject (in Hungarian).

Bor was immortalized also by the poetry of one of its victims, Miklós Radnóti. See: http://books.google.com/books?id=sfA16HpTdbAC&dq=radn%C3%B3ti+bor+isbn

Best regards

Mike Hollosi
Toronto, Ontario

On Jan 22, 2013, at 02:06 , H-SIG digest wrote:

H-SIG Digest for Monday, January 21, 2013.

1. Bor Labour Camp
2. Registration Open for the 33rd IAJGS International Conference

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Bor Labour Camp
From: vrederun@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:51:58 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

I am looking for records or lists of those deported to the Bor Labor
Camps (Organization Todt) circa 1943 and 1944.>from Budapest (or
Hungary).

I am also looking for information or records >from the first death
march (of Hungarian detainees) >from Bor which occurred on on September
17, 1944. I have read that on this march only 9 persons survived
(>from 5000 persons).

If anyone has any information or could direct me to the needed
information I would be appreciative.

Thank you,

Stacye Mehard

Virginia


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Bor Labour Camp #hungary

mhollosi@...
 

Take a look at the following article in English about the labour camp: http://bhiweb.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/summary2011-11-09.pdf
This is the English summary of a monograph byTamás Csapody on the subject (in Hungarian).

Bor was immortalized also by the poetry of one of its victims, Miklós Radnóti. See: http://books.google.com/books?id=sfA16HpTdbAC&dq=radn%C3%B3ti+bor+isbn

Best regards

Mike Hollosi
Toronto, Ontario

On Jan 22, 2013, at 02:06 , H-SIG digest wrote:

H-SIG Digest for Monday, January 21, 2013.

1. Bor Labour Camp
2. Registration Open for the 33rd IAJGS International Conference

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Bor Labour Camp
From: vrederun@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:51:58 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

I am looking for records or lists of those deported to the Bor Labor
Camps (Organization Todt) circa 1943 and 1944.>from Budapest (or
Hungary).

I am also looking for information or records >from the first death
march (of Hungarian detainees) >from Bor which occurred on on September
17, 1944. I have read that on this march only 9 persons survived
(>from 5000 persons).

If anyone has any information or could direct me to the needed
information I would be appreciative.

Thank you,

Stacye Mehard

Virginia


Rules for posting to the SIG list! #romania

Rosanne Leeson
 

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Romania SIG #Romania Rules for posting to the SIG list! #romania

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