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Ida FRIEDMANN fm Nagytarna #hungary

Stuart Kaufer
 

Looking for her or her descendants

from Nagytarna Born March 1928
Daughter of David Friedmann who died in camps.
Per Yad Vashem she survived Bergen Belsen
She is my cousin

Stuart Kaufer

Moderator: Please contact Stuart off-list if you can help.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Ida FRIEDMANN fm Nagytarna #hungary

Stuart Kaufer
 

Looking for her or her descendants

from Nagytarna Born March 1928
Daughter of David Friedmann who died in camps.
Per Yad Vashem she survived Bergen Belsen
She is my cousin

Stuart Kaufer

Moderator: Please contact Stuart off-list if you can help.


Re: GELFAND surname #dna

Bob Kosovsky
 

On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Sam <Samat773@verizon.net>

I am an Ashkenazi Jew of Sephardic Ancestry with my paternal roots >from
Bobruisk (City) Belarus. >from genetic testing I know with near certainty,
that my 20 + generation past g grandfather lived in Spain at the time of the
inquisition.

Contrary to what my father told me, GELFAND( the name means elephant in
Russian) was a relatively common name in Belarus and the Ukraine,many of whom
emigrated to the US.
Testing as many Gelfand lines as possible for their paternal ancestry is a
way to start getting a better understanding of the migration. At age 86 I can
only initiate the process.
I'd say there's a better way to start that will result in documentation: Do a
one-name study (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-name_study). Go through all
the databases you can find systematically (start with JewishGen) and
catalog each instance of GELFAND, in particular >from where they originate.
I assume you use some computer program to hold all your genealogical data - so
start a new database to trace the use of GELFAND. I've done that with my
surname and the results you get help you to identify the towns or regions in
which that name was prominent, even suggesting migration patterns.

Once you do this and have a grasp of not only GELFANDs but related persons,
then the DNA test would be of more use.

(I was prompted to respond in part because my family has GELFANDs >from Slutsk as
well as neighboring towns).

Bob Kosovsky, New York City, seeking any and all permutations/locations of:
KASOVSKI/Y, KASOWSKI/Y, KOSOFSKY, KOSOVSKY, KOSOWSKY, KOSOW, KOSSOVE, etc.
Slutsk: DAVIDSON, GELFAND (also Sioux City, Iowa)
Klodawa: JARET, JARETSKY, JARECKI, KOLSKY/I; Przedecz: PIFKO, PIWKO


Seeking Information about Jewish community in Bunffyhunyod, Huedin #hungary

tzipisidel@...
 

My father's family are >from Bunffyhunyod (Huedin). I found the source:
Huedin, Romania (My memories of Banffy-Hunyadi) (under jewishgen ,
yizkor) in which his family was mentioned. His mother Bella klein was
mentioned as well as his brother Chaim Sheye. I wonder if there is
anybody >from this list that has any connection to anybody >from this
town.

Thanks,

Tzipi Sidel


DNA Research #DNA Re: GELFAND surname #dna

Bob Kosovsky
 

On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Sam <Samat773@verizon.net>

I am an Ashkenazi Jew of Sephardic Ancestry with my paternal roots >from
Bobruisk (City) Belarus. >from genetic testing I know with near certainty,
that my 20 + generation past g grandfather lived in Spain at the time of the
inquisition.

Contrary to what my father told me, GELFAND( the name means elephant in
Russian) was a relatively common name in Belarus and the Ukraine,many of whom
emigrated to the US.
Testing as many Gelfand lines as possible for their paternal ancestry is a
way to start getting a better understanding of the migration. At age 86 I can
only initiate the process.
I'd say there's a better way to start that will result in documentation: Do a
one-name study (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-name_study). Go through all
the databases you can find systematically (start with JewishGen) and
catalog each instance of GELFAND, in particular >from where they originate.
I assume you use some computer program to hold all your genealogical data - so
start a new database to trace the use of GELFAND. I've done that with my
surname and the results you get help you to identify the towns or regions in
which that name was prominent, even suggesting migration patterns.

Once you do this and have a grasp of not only GELFANDs but related persons,
then the DNA test would be of more use.

(I was prompted to respond in part because my family has GELFANDs >from Slutsk as
well as neighboring towns).

Bob Kosovsky, New York City, seeking any and all permutations/locations of:
KASOVSKI/Y, KASOWSKI/Y, KOSOFSKY, KOSOVSKY, KOSOWSKY, KOSOW, KOSSOVE, etc.
Slutsk: DAVIDSON, GELFAND (also Sioux City, Iowa)
Klodawa: JARET, JARETSKY, JARECKI, KOLSKY/I; Przedecz: PIFKO, PIWKO


Hungary SIG #Hungary Seeking Information about Jewish community in Bunffyhunyod, Huedin #hungary

tzipisidel@...
 

My father's family are >from Bunffyhunyod (Huedin). I found the source:
Huedin, Romania (My memories of Banffy-Hunyadi) (under jewishgen ,
yizkor) in which his family was mentioned. His mother Bella klein was
mentioned as well as his brother Chaim Sheye. I wonder if there is
anybody >from this list that has any connection to anybody >from this
town.

Thanks,

Tzipi Sidel


Hsig indexing project #hungary

alexpmiller@...
 

It would be useful to see a periodic H-SIG AHD indexing project update,
a la Shtetl links update

Alex Miller
SE Pa

Moderator: Project coordinators do send messages to the list to notify subscribers of
updates to the JewishGen Hungary Database. We will also be reporting on updates at
the Hungarian SIG business meeting at the Boston conference.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hsig indexing project #hungary

alexpmiller@...
 

It would be useful to see a periodic H-SIG AHD indexing project update,
a la Shtetl links update

Alex Miller
SE Pa

Moderator: Project coordinators do send messages to the list to notify subscribers of
updates to the JewishGen Hungary Database. We will also be reporting on updates at
the Hungarian SIG business meeting at the Boston conference.


now available--JEWISH LIVES: BRITAIN 1750-1950 #hungary

nomietai@...
 

Dear fellow h-SIGers,

My book, JEWISH LIVES: BRITAIN 1750-1950,
which is based on actual genealogical research,
traces the lives of ten representative Jews who immigrated >from Portugal,
Russian Empire, Austro-Hungarian Empire, Congress-Poland, prussian-Poland. Bessarabia,
and Germany to the UK -- arranged chronologically.

Yet--aside >from all being Jewish, all being brave, and all braving a new world,
my chosen people have little in common.

They came >from differing places,
settled in differing British towns
at differing times.

I not only explore their origins, backgrounds, trades, and daily cares, but as their lives unfold,
trace both growing anti-Semitism in Europe and the development of Anglo-Jewry.

JEWISH LIVES explores life >from Lisbon to Vilna to Krakow and London to Cardiff to Leeds-- reflecting the experiences of millions of our forefathers--whatever their origins, where ever they settled.
Hopefully, it will inspire family researchers--whatever their background-- not only to explore their own heritage, but also, through added research, to breathe life into the facts they find.

Who among us has not had a peddler, pawnbroker, grocer, tailor, presser,
etc, in his family? Who among us has not had ancestors seeking freedom in faraway lands?

I hope you find JEWISH LIVES both enjoyable and inspiring.

JEWISH LIVES: Britain 1750-1950
Author: Melody Amsel-Arieli
Publisher: Pen & Sword, 2013
IBSN : 9781848844117
Available through major bookstores, as well as Amazon, Book Depository,
Pen & Sword Books, and other choice sites.


With kind regards,

Melody Amsel-Arieli
Maaleh Adumim, Israel
goldenjerusalem@yahoo.com
www.amselbird.com

Moderator: One-time mention of a commercial product of interest to subscribers.
Please contact Melody off-list for additional information.


Hungary SIG #Hungary now available--JEWISH LIVES: BRITAIN 1750-1950 #hungary

nomietai@...
 

Dear fellow h-SIGers,

My book, JEWISH LIVES: BRITAIN 1750-1950,
which is based on actual genealogical research,
traces the lives of ten representative Jews who immigrated >from Portugal,
Russian Empire, Austro-Hungarian Empire, Congress-Poland, prussian-Poland. Bessarabia,
and Germany to the UK -- arranged chronologically.

Yet--aside >from all being Jewish, all being brave, and all braving a new world,
my chosen people have little in common.

They came >from differing places,
settled in differing British towns
at differing times.

I not only explore their origins, backgrounds, trades, and daily cares, but as their lives unfold,
trace both growing anti-Semitism in Europe and the development of Anglo-Jewry.

JEWISH LIVES explores life >from Lisbon to Vilna to Krakow and London to Cardiff to Leeds-- reflecting the experiences of millions of our forefathers--whatever their origins, where ever they settled.
Hopefully, it will inspire family researchers--whatever their background-- not only to explore their own heritage, but also, through added research, to breathe life into the facts they find.

Who among us has not had a peddler, pawnbroker, grocer, tailor, presser,
etc, in his family? Who among us has not had ancestors seeking freedom in faraway lands?

I hope you find JEWISH LIVES both enjoyable and inspiring.

JEWISH LIVES: Britain 1750-1950
Author: Melody Amsel-Arieli
Publisher: Pen & Sword, 2013
IBSN : 9781848844117
Available through major bookstores, as well as Amazon, Book Depository,
Pen & Sword Books, and other choice sites.


With kind regards,

Melody Amsel-Arieli
Maaleh Adumim, Israel
goldenjerusalem@yahoo.com
www.amselbird.com

Moderator: One-time mention of a commercial product of interest to subscribers.
Please contact Melody off-list for additional information.


HUNGARY BIRTHS #hungary

rsolhsol@...
 

I am trying to find Hungarian Births for 1870 & 71.
Harvey Solomon
rsolhsol@bellsouth.net

Moderator: The JewishGen Hungary Database includes thousands birth records. For
details on which places include births >from 1870-71 go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/Births.htm


Hungary SIG #Hungary HUNGARY BIRTHS #hungary

rsolhsol@...
 

I am trying to find Hungarian Births for 1870 & 71.
Harvey Solomon
rsolhsol@bellsouth.net

Moderator: The JewishGen Hungary Database includes thousands birth records. For
details on which places include births >from 1870-71 go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/Births.htm


Re: Looking for information about Bekes Jewish community #hungary

andrew-s@...
 

Diane, it seems that I am the person you are looking for. My wife and I
spent some time in Bekes thirteen years ago, searching for my ancestors. The
people there were very helpful; the mayor took us to the Jewish cemetery,
which was kept in excellent condition; that was quite unusual. Of course,
they knew that we were coming: we wrote in advance, asking for their help,
and offered some contribution to a worthy local cause. The mayor even made a
restaurant reservation for us, wanted to treat us as his guests, and was
mildly disappointed when we declined (we made some reasonable excuse about
time pressure, which was true, and did not mention our main concern
regarding kashrut). But most important, and this is what you wanted to know,
there is no such thing as a Jewish community now. There is, or was then, one
old Jewish woman, a Holocaust survivor, perhaps the only survivor >from the
town; she was born Rozsa Geller, married Imre Weinberger. Upon her return
from the camps, finding herself a widow, she married a local peasant, and
lived with her new non-Jewish family in a small house in town. My
recollection of these facts may not be fully correct: perhaps you can get
the mayor to take you to her, if she is still alive. If you wanted to learn
more about our trip there, you are encouraged to read my book "Conversations
with my Ancestors", available on Amazon.

Wishing you a productive and enjoyable trip

Andrew Sanders
Toronto / Haifa

Moderator: One-time mention of a commercial product of interest. Please contact
Andrew off-list for further information.


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Looking for information about Bekes Jewish community #hungary

andrew-s@...
 

Diane, it seems that I am the person you are looking for. My wife and I
spent some time in Bekes thirteen years ago, searching for my ancestors. The
people there were very helpful; the mayor took us to the Jewish cemetery,
which was kept in excellent condition; that was quite unusual. Of course,
they knew that we were coming: we wrote in advance, asking for their help,
and offered some contribution to a worthy local cause. The mayor even made a
restaurant reservation for us, wanted to treat us as his guests, and was
mildly disappointed when we declined (we made some reasonable excuse about
time pressure, which was true, and did not mention our main concern
regarding kashrut). But most important, and this is what you wanted to know,
there is no such thing as a Jewish community now. There is, or was then, one
old Jewish woman, a Holocaust survivor, perhaps the only survivor >from the
town; she was born Rozsa Geller, married Imre Weinberger. Upon her return
from the camps, finding herself a widow, she married a local peasant, and
lived with her new non-Jewish family in a small house in town. My
recollection of these facts may not be fully correct: perhaps you can get
the mayor to take you to her, if she is still alive. If you wanted to learn
more about our trip there, you are encouraged to read my book "Conversations
with my Ancestors", available on Amazon.

Wishing you a productive and enjoyable trip

Andrew Sanders
Toronto / Haifa

Moderator: One-time mention of a commercial product of interest. Please contact
Andrew off-list for further information.


Re: Looking for information about Bekes Jewish community #hungary

g_hirsch@...
 

There exists a phone book >from 1943, it was mentioned also in H-SIG, page 35 contains the phone numbers of BÊkÊs. Beside that there exists a list of BÊkÊs prepared by Pinter Bertalanne, it is an answer of the "Magyar Izraelitak Orszagos Irodaja" enquiry, it mentions that in 1944 March the number of the Jews was 190-200, there is a number of 173 - probably the number of the victims, 21 children were murdered and it mentions that on June 13 were they taken to the Ghetto in BÊkÊscsaba. The daughter of Pinter Bertalanne is living in Budapest.

On June 31, the last sunday in June, will be the annual commemoration in BÊkÊscsaba, generally there are also several persons >from the surrounding communities present. If you can arrange, visit the commemoration.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch
Switzerland


Gesendet:Â Mittwoch, 24. April 2013 um 21:13 Uhr
Von:Â "Jake Jacobs" <jake6621@hotmail.com>
An:Â H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Betreff:Â [h-sig] Looking for information about Bekes Jewish community
I am searching for information about the Bekes Jewish community, including maps of
the Jewish community, background information, directories, businesses. My grandmother
grew up in Bekes. We will be visiting in June. We have very little information about
the Jewish elements of town. Would appreciate any information. Thank you!

Diane Jacobs
Austin, Texas, USA

Moderator: The 1943 Hungarian phone directory is one of many resources available
on the H-SIG website. Go to http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/methods.htm and scroll
down to the Hungary section.


Looking for Balogh book about BEKES #hungary

Jake Jacobs
 

Several people have mentioned books by Istvan Balogh about Jewish BEKES. email address provided did not work. Does anyone know how to locate copies of these books? If no, how to locate the author?

Thank you!

diane Jacobs
Austin, Texas =


Hungary SIG #Hungary Aw: Looking for information about Bekes Jewish community #hungary

g_hirsch@...
 

There exists a phone book >from 1943, it was mentioned also in H-SIG, page 35 contains the phone numbers of BÊkÊs. Beside that there exists a list of BÊkÊs prepared by Pinter Bertalanne, it is an answer of the "Magyar Izraelitak Orszagos Irodaja" enquiry, it mentions that in 1944 March the number of the Jews was 190-200, there is a number of 173 - probably the number of the victims, 21 children were murdered and it mentions that on June 13 were they taken to the Ghetto in BÊkÊscsaba. The daughter of Pinter Bertalanne is living in Budapest.

On June 31, the last sunday in June, will be the annual commemoration in BÊkÊscsaba, generally there are also several persons >from the surrounding communities present. If you can arrange, visit the commemoration.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch
Switzerland


Gesendet:Â Mittwoch, 24. April 2013 um 21:13 Uhr
Von:Â "Jake Jacobs" <jake6621@hotmail.com>
An:Â H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Betreff:Â [h-sig] Looking for information about Bekes Jewish community
I am searching for information about the Bekes Jewish community, including maps of
the Jewish community, background information, directories, businesses. My grandmother
grew up in Bekes. We will be visiting in June. We have very little information about
the Jewish elements of town. Would appreciate any information. Thank you!

Diane Jacobs
Austin, Texas, USA

Moderator: The 1943 Hungarian phone directory is one of many resources available
on the H-SIG website. Go to http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/methods.htm and scroll
down to the Hungary section.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Looking for Balogh book about BEKES #hungary

Jake Jacobs
 

Several people have mentioned books by Istvan Balogh about Jewish BEKES. email address provided did not work. Does anyone know how to locate copies of these books? If no, how to locate the author?

Thank you!

diane Jacobs
Austin, Texas =


New to List Posting #bessarabia

Reuven Buckberg <kelevtov@...>
 

Hello Fellow Bessarabians,

My father was born in a small shtetl called Perlitz (phonetic spelling),
seen on today's maps as Pyrlica or Pirlita.  It is 92 km NW of
Kishiniev, and about 40 km to Iasi.

Our family name is Buckberg.  My father came to the USA in April 1914
aboard the SS Rotterdam, with his parents and older brother an sisters. 
Some older brothers preceeded them here.  They then settled in Brooklyn. 

I visited Pyrlica in 2006, and I can tell you we found no remnants of
Jewish life.  It is my understanding that the Romanian partisans killed
all the Jews of that village in 1943. The local history museum, in a
small house, had no reference to the Jews who lived in the village. A
local woman, I am told, had some more information but she happened to be
ill and in hospital at the time of my visit.

If any one has any information about Jewish life in that shtetl, any
yizkor books or other documents or information, or if anyone knows
anyone >from that shtetl I would be most grateful to open a dialogue. 

Thank you!

Reuven Buckberg
Longmeadow, MA
kelevtov@fastmail.fm


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia New to List Posting #bessarabia

Reuven Buckberg <kelevtov@...>
 

Hello Fellow Bessarabians,

My father was born in a small shtetl called Perlitz (phonetic spelling),
seen on today's maps as Pyrlica or Pirlita.  It is 92 km NW of
Kishiniev, and about 40 km to Iasi.

Our family name is Buckberg.  My father came to the USA in April 1914
aboard the SS Rotterdam, with his parents and older brother an sisters. 
Some older brothers preceeded them here.  They then settled in Brooklyn. 

I visited Pyrlica in 2006, and I can tell you we found no remnants of
Jewish life.  It is my understanding that the Romanian partisans killed
all the Jews of that village in 1943. The local history museum, in a
small house, had no reference to the Jews who lived in the village. A
local woman, I am told, had some more information but she happened to be
ill and in hospital at the time of my visit.

If any one has any information about Jewish life in that shtetl, any
yizkor books or other documents or information, or if anyone knows
anyone >from that shtetl I would be most grateful to open a dialogue. 

Thank you!

Reuven Buckberg
Longmeadow, MA
kelevtov@fastmail.fm

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