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Christine Usdin Passes Away #latvia

Eli Rabinowitz
 

I have read on Facebook with sadness that Christine Usdin has passed away.
Christine performed many mitzvahs by translating thousands of records >from
cyrillic and thereby reconnecting so many of us with our roots.
RIP Christine.

Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia


Latvia SIG #Latvia Christine Usdin Passes Away #latvia

Eli Rabinowitz
 

I have read on Facebook with sadness that Christine Usdin has passed away.
Christine performed many mitzvahs by translating thousands of records >from
cyrillic and thereby reconnecting so many of us with our roots.
RIP Christine.

Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia


Re: Tests that were made at other companies #dna

Philip Trauring
 

Israel,

I don't think anyone transfers samples. The transferred results that
FTDNA handles are specifically results >from Ancestry.com and
23andMe.com because they use the same Illumina OmniExpress chip as
FTDNA. What you're transferring is a computer file generated >from that
chip, not the sample that it was derived from, thus if an autosomal
test has not yet been done yet, you won't be able to do a new one
unless you can get the original sample >from whatever company did the
test originally. If the original company still has a sample, but
doesn't do autosomal tests (i.e. isn't FTDNA, Ancestry.com, or 23andMe),
then your only chance to get an autosomal test done is to get the
original company to give up the sample and send it to FTDNA by mail.
I've never heard of this occurring, but that doesn't mean it can't
happen.

Philip Trauring

On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:36 AM, IsraelP <IsraelP@pikholz.org> wrote:
I know that Family Tree DNA can transfer test results that come >from
other testing companies.

But does anyone know who holds the samples in those instances.

We have a family member who tested with another comany and we'd like to
do an additional test. Problem is, he died so cannot give another sample.

Can we use the old sample to do a Family Finder?

Israel Pickholtz


Research : Jelinek #hungary

agnespelladeau@...
 

Please, excuse my bad English. I am hoping someone can help me.
My grand mother, Antonia jelinek ( married Gregor) is born in July 1898 in Hungary
(Salgotarjan) but this family was Czech and living in Moravia. His mother was
Erzsebeth Jelinek.
I have a baptism certificate for Erzsebeth >from protektorat cechy a morava of 26 may
1944. It says she was born in june 1867 and his father : Franz Jelinek, kinder des
Jakob Jelinek.
Do you have informations ?
Thanks a lot
Best regards
Agnès Pelladeau
Paris - France

Moderator: Please contact Agnes off-list unless message is of general interest.


DNA Research #DNA Re: Tests that were made at other companies #dna

Philip Trauring
 

Israel,

I don't think anyone transfers samples. The transferred results that
FTDNA handles are specifically results >from Ancestry.com and
23andMe.com because they use the same Illumina OmniExpress chip as
FTDNA. What you're transferring is a computer file generated >from that
chip, not the sample that it was derived from, thus if an autosomal
test has not yet been done yet, you won't be able to do a new one
unless you can get the original sample >from whatever company did the
test originally. If the original company still has a sample, but
doesn't do autosomal tests (i.e. isn't FTDNA, Ancestry.com, or 23andMe),
then your only chance to get an autosomal test done is to get the
original company to give up the sample and send it to FTDNA by mail.
I've never heard of this occurring, but that doesn't mean it can't
happen.

Philip Trauring

On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:36 AM, IsraelP <IsraelP@pikholz.org> wrote:
I know that Family Tree DNA can transfer test results that come >from
other testing companies.

But does anyone know who holds the samples in those instances.

We have a family member who tested with another comany and we'd like to
do an additional test. Problem is, he died so cannot give another sample.

Can we use the old sample to do a Family Finder?

Israel Pickholtz


Hungary SIG #Hungary Research : Jelinek #hungary

agnespelladeau@...
 

Please, excuse my bad English. I am hoping someone can help me.
My grand mother, Antonia jelinek ( married Gregor) is born in July 1898 in Hungary
(Salgotarjan) but this family was Czech and living in Moravia. His mother was
Erzsebeth Jelinek.
I have a baptism certificate for Erzsebeth >from protektorat cechy a morava of 26 may
1944. It says she was born in june 1867 and his father : Franz Jelinek, kinder des
Jakob Jelinek.
Do you have informations ?
Thanks a lot
Best regards
Agnès Pelladeau
Paris - France

Moderator: Please contact Agnes off-list unless message is of general interest.


MANDEL from the Humenne area #hungary

rlsavin@...
 

Hello,
I am trying to help a friend research his family that once lived in a
town outside Humenne, which is now in Slovakia. His family eventually
settled in Detroit via Montreal but before that were taken in 1942 to
a Polish concentration camp (don't know which one). According to
recorded testimony given by the grandmother, Frida ZALMONOVICH MANDEL,
born about 1912, they were able to escape through a combination of
bribery and bravery. In the process, her husband (Alexander Mandel)
was killed. At the end of the war, Frida is reunited with her son (born
about 1936) whose name was Joseph but used the name Tommy.

I have yet to find any immigration information but do believe they
entered the USA about 1956 and were naturalized in 1961 but I could be
off by some years. I also believe the naturalization was done in
Detroit, MI.

My friend is hoping to go to Slovakia to find evidence of his family
but would definitely benefit >from learning some more facts before
going. His grandmother never told the family any details but I did
find his grandfather's tombstone in the Humenne Jewish Cemetery and it
says his Hebrew name was Binyamin (Alexander) son of Moshe Mandel.
Binyamin (Alexander) was born in 1902.

Also any suggestions as to where he might be able to go once in
Slovakia would be greatly appreciated. I am sure if he knew which
hometown his family was from, it would be a much more meaningful trip.

Thank you for your help.
Rishy Savin

Moderator: Please contact Rishy off-lit unless info will be of general interest.


Hungary SIG #Hungary MANDEL from the Humenne area #hungary

rlsavin@...
 

Hello,
I am trying to help a friend research his family that once lived in a
town outside Humenne, which is now in Slovakia. His family eventually
settled in Detroit via Montreal but before that were taken in 1942 to
a Polish concentration camp (don't know which one). According to
recorded testimony given by the grandmother, Frida ZALMONOVICH MANDEL,
born about 1912, they were able to escape through a combination of
bribery and bravery. In the process, her husband (Alexander Mandel)
was killed. At the end of the war, Frida is reunited with her son (born
about 1936) whose name was Joseph but used the name Tommy.

I have yet to find any immigration information but do believe they
entered the USA about 1956 and were naturalized in 1961 but I could be
off by some years. I also believe the naturalization was done in
Detroit, MI.

My friend is hoping to go to Slovakia to find evidence of his family
but would definitely benefit >from learning some more facts before
going. His grandmother never told the family any details but I did
find his grandfather's tombstone in the Humenne Jewish Cemetery and it
says his Hebrew name was Binyamin (Alexander) son of Moshe Mandel.
Binyamin (Alexander) was born in 1902.

Also any suggestions as to where he might be able to go once in
Slovakia would be greatly appreciated. I am sure if he knew which
hometown his family was from, it would be a much more meaningful trip.

Thank you for your help.
Rishy Savin

Moderator: Please contact Rishy off-lit unless info will be of general interest.


Kisherend and Egerag Burials #hungary

ezwieback@...
 

I understand that there still may be a Jewish Cemetery in Egerag,
Baranya County. I would like any confirmation of this, and any info
about the conditions, size, etc.
There is an entry (no.265) in the IJCP listings but no info (March 2009).
Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, CALIF

--
Ed
Alternate e-mails; ezwieback@verizon.net or ed.zwieback@gmail.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Kisherend and Egerag Burials #hungary

ezwieback@...
 

I understand that there still may be a Jewish Cemetery in Egerag,
Baranya County. I would like any confirmation of this, and any info
about the conditions, size, etc.
There is an entry (no.265) in the IJCP listings but no info (March 2009).
Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, CALIF

--
Ed
Alternate e-mails; ezwieback@verizon.net or ed.zwieback@gmail.com


Descendants of the STOCKELMACHER #hungary

claude@...
 

Dear Genners,

During the years 1820-1830, a branch of the STEKLMACHER's family
emigrated >from Bohemia and Moravia to Hungary where the spelling of the
name was modified to STOCKELMACHER (with or without an Umlaut on the
"O") or STECKELMACHER.

I am trying to make a research on this particular branch, so as to add
it on our family tree. The great lines of this research have been done,
but still have to be developed.

I would be delighted if someone could help me in reaching that goal or
if someone could even discover himself as being a descendant of this
branch.

The different changes in names due to weddings, etc... are stated
hereunder.

Thank you beforehand

--
STECKELMACHER, Claude
Strombeek-Bever (Belgium)

BEN-MEIR, DAN, EGRI, FEKETE, GAL, GARTENFELD, GATI, KERTESZ, KOHN,
KORDA, KULKA, PANCHYK, SARKADY, STEKLMACHER,STOCKELMACHER, SZEKELY,
VOROSVARY, ZVULUNI


Hungary SIG #Hungary Descendants of the STOCKELMACHER #hungary

claude@...
 

Dear Genners,

During the years 1820-1830, a branch of the STEKLMACHER's family
emigrated >from Bohemia and Moravia to Hungary where the spelling of the
name was modified to STOCKELMACHER (with or without an Umlaut on the
"O") or STECKELMACHER.

I am trying to make a research on this particular branch, so as to add
it on our family tree. The great lines of this research have been done,
but still have to be developed.

I would be delighted if someone could help me in reaching that goal or
if someone could even discover himself as being a descendant of this
branch.

The different changes in names due to weddings, etc... are stated
hereunder.

Thank you beforehand

--
STECKELMACHER, Claude
Strombeek-Bever (Belgium)

BEN-MEIR, DAN, EGRI, FEKETE, GAL, GARTENFELD, GATI, KERTESZ, KOHN,
KORDA, KULKA, PANCHYK, SARKADY, STEKLMACHER,STOCKELMACHER, SZEKELY,
VOROSVARY, ZVULUNI


Re: Austro-Hungarian Soldiers WW1 and Russian POW #hungary

Judi Wagner
 

My grandfather, Alexander HIRSCHFELD, >from Hodod, now in Romania, but =
was in Hungary during WW1, also served in Austro-Hungarian army, and was =
captured by the Russians and was in a POW camp, supposedly in Siberia. =
Where may i find the records that lists the soldiers and any more =
information on them during WW1 and their capture and POW status? Thank =
you very much.

Judi WAGNER
Florida and NYC
HIRSCHFELD, Hodod,Romania KLEIIN, Satoraljaujhely,Hungary KISILEVSKIJ, =
Nova Pryluka, Ukraine, BRODY Berdichev, Ukraine, WEINSTEIN, Hotin, =
Ukraine, RECHTER, Bolechov, Ukraine, HALPERN, Cisow, Poland, CZEIGER, =
Hodod, Romania, GROZSMAN, Ladmocz, Hungary=


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Austro-Hungarian Soldiers WW1 and Russian POW #hungary

Judi Wagner
 

My grandfather, Alexander HIRSCHFELD, >from Hodod, now in Romania, but =
was in Hungary during WW1, also served in Austro-Hungarian army, and was =
captured by the Russians and was in a POW camp, supposedly in Siberia. =
Where may i find the records that lists the soldiers and any more =
information on them during WW1 and their capture and POW status? Thank =
you very much.

Judi WAGNER
Florida and NYC
HIRSCHFELD, Hodod,Romania KLEIIN, Satoraljaujhely,Hungary KISILEVSKIJ, =
Nova Pryluka, Ukraine, BRODY Berdichev, Ukraine, WEINSTEIN, Hotin, =
Ukraine, RECHTER, Bolechov, Ukraine, HALPERN, Cisow, Poland, CZEIGER, =
Hodod, Romania, GROZSMAN, Ladmocz, Hungary=


Re: Christine Usdin #courland #latvia

Jon Seligman
 

Christine Usdin Passes Away

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Christine's passing is a great loss. Though we never met, Christine was an
enormous help in my own research and her work on the vital records of Latvia
(especially Dvinsk-Daugavpils and Riga) was painstaking in detail, extensive
and simply pioneering. Her website (http://usdine.free.fr/) , that included
a detailed translation of so many records and photographs of her visits to
the crumbling cemeteries of Latvia, is a living testament to Christine and
every effort should, no, must, be made to preserving it online.

Jon Seligman
(http://www.seligman.org.il/)

Researching:
GILLIS - Kretinga, Lith.
LEDERMAN - Seduva, Lith.
FLEISHMAN - Seduva, Lith.
YACHAD - Kraslava, Lat.
JOFFE - Kraslava, Lat.
SELIGMAN/ZELIKMAN - Dvinsk, Lat., Slobodka, Bel.
SWARTZMAN - Kraslava, Lat.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: Christine Usdin #lithuania

Jon Seligman
 

Christine Usdin Passes Away

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Christine's passing is a great loss. Though we never met, Christine was an
enormous help in my own research and her work on the vital records of Latvia
(especially Dvinsk-Daugavpils and Riga) was painstaking in detail, extensive
and simply pioneering. Her website (http://usdine.free.fr/) , that included
a detailed translation of so many records and photographs of her visits to
the crumbling cemeteries of Latvia, is a living testament to Christine and
every effort should, no, must, be made to preserving it online.

Jon Seligman
(http://www.seligman.org.il/)

Researching:
GILLIS - Kretinga, Lith.
LEDERMAN - Seduva, Lith.
FLEISHMAN - Seduva, Lith.
YACHAD - Kraslava, Lat.
JOFFE - Kraslava, Lat.
SELIGMAN/ZELIKMAN - Dvinsk, Lat., Slobodka, Bel.
SWARTZMAN - Kraslava, Lat.


Re: Georgia Naturalizations #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

As I have mentioned in a prior posting about Alabama Naturalizations on
Ancestry.com, these southern naturalizations are a tremendous help in
locating information on immigrant Jews. In the Georgia Naturalizations,
I happened upon a very interesting record which is a wonderful example
of how Jewish families can be dispersed to a number of far-flung places.

On September 27, 1865, Leizeris Krygeris was born in Vabalninkas,
Lithuania, and on March 19, 1935, he arrived in America on the SS
Majestic. He then settled in Georgia and his five children are listed
as follows:
Elex Kruger, living in Fitzgerald, Georgia
Abe Kruger, living in Fitzgerald, Georgia
Morris Kruger, living in Johannesburg, South Africa
David S. Kruger, living in Live Oak, Florida
Israel H. Kruger, living in Ra'anana, Israel

One can look further, and=A0find according to the "South African
Jewry 1976-1977" Year Book that Morris Kruger is listed there. He is
the child of Lazar and Pesia Kruger, served in the Lithuanian Army in
1921, and came to South Africa in 1922. He married Ida Bloch in 1922
and had two sons. He was the Chairman of the Vabolnik Countrymen. One
can also find more about his brothers and their families too. The William
Bremen Jewish Heritage & Holocaust Museum in Atlanta, Georgia, has much
about the Kruger family including a wonderful family photograph of
Leizeris and his sons.

In another example, one sees how it was not only the husbands who came to
America alone, but some wives did this as well. One finds a record for
Rachel Lena Klein (no maiden name), who had been married to Hyman David
Klein and had a son Solomon Isaac Klein, all born in Taurage, Lithuania.
Evidently, the husband remained in Lithuania whilst the wife and child
came to America and settled in Georgia in 1920. One wonders if the
husband later survived the Holocaust.

An interesting record shows that immigrants came to America to landsleit
who had chosen to settle in well-known enclaves. In regard to Isidor
Yankel Kremer, who was born in Pushalot, Lithuania, it appeared >from the
record that he married in Jacksonville, Florida, to a Fannie (maiden
name not mentioned), who was >from Romania, before he settled in Albany,
Georgia. Many immigrants >from the small Lithuanian shtetl of Pushalot
found a home in Jacksonville and, so too, it was with Mr. Kremer who
made that connection along with a number of his Kremer relatives.

There are many other examples >from not only Lithuania, but other
countries as well which are worth investigating. All have their special
little twists and turns in the history of that particular family. In
addition, be sure and look at all of the southern states such as
Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina and others whose
naturalizations are now online as one never knows where one will find
a family member.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: Georgia Naturalizations #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz
 

As I have mentioned in a prior posting about Alabama Naturalizations on
Ancestry.com, these southern naturalizations are a tremendous help in
locating information on immigrant Jews. In the Georgia Naturalizations,
I happened upon a very interesting record which is a wonderful example
of how Jewish families can be dispersed to a number of far-flung places.

On September 27, 1865, Leizeris Krygeris was born in Vabalninkas,
Lithuania, and on March 19, 1935, he arrived in America on the SS
Majestic. He then settled in Georgia and his five children are listed
as follows:
Elex Kruger, living in Fitzgerald, Georgia
Abe Kruger, living in Fitzgerald, Georgia
Morris Kruger, living in Johannesburg, South Africa
David S. Kruger, living in Live Oak, Florida
Israel H. Kruger, living in Ra'anana, Israel

One can look further, and=A0find according to the "South African
Jewry 1976-1977" Year Book that Morris Kruger is listed there. He is
the child of Lazar and Pesia Kruger, served in the Lithuanian Army in
1921, and came to South Africa in 1922. He married Ida Bloch in 1922
and had two sons. He was the Chairman of the Vabolnik Countrymen. One
can also find more about his brothers and their families too. The William
Bremen Jewish Heritage & Holocaust Museum in Atlanta, Georgia, has much
about the Kruger family including a wonderful family photograph of
Leizeris and his sons.

In another example, one sees how it was not only the husbands who came to
America alone, but some wives did this as well. One finds a record for
Rachel Lena Klein (no maiden name), who had been married to Hyman David
Klein and had a son Solomon Isaac Klein, all born in Taurage, Lithuania.
Evidently, the husband remained in Lithuania whilst the wife and child
came to America and settled in Georgia in 1920. One wonders if the
husband later survived the Holocaust.

An interesting record shows that immigrants came to America to landsleit
who had chosen to settle in well-known enclaves. In regard to Isidor
Yankel Kremer, who was born in Pushalot, Lithuania, it appeared >from the
record that he married in Jacksonville, Florida, to a Fannie (maiden
name not mentioned), who was >from Romania, before he settled in Albany,
Georgia. Many immigrants >from the small Lithuanian shtetl of Pushalot
found a home in Jacksonville and, so too, it was with Mr. Kremer who
made that connection along with a number of his Kremer relatives.

There are many other examples >from not only Lithuania, but other
countries as well which are worth investigating. All have their special
little twists and turns in the history of that particular family. In
addition, be sure and look at all of the southern states such as
Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina and others whose
naturalizations are now online as one never knows where one will find
a family member.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Re: Christine Usdin #courland #latvia

Angie Elfassi
 

Christine Usdin - Such a terrible shock. I posted on FB a message -
her site is still open. Terrible loss.

Angie Elfassi
Israel

Searching: RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds
COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds
KASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Christine Usdin #lithuania

Angie Elfassi
 

Christine Usdin - Such a terrible shock. I posted on FB a message -
her site is still open. Terrible loss.

Angie Elfassi
Israel

Searching: RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds
COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds
KASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds

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