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Re: Dutch Police Records #general

André Günther
 

A few years earlier he was sent to jail for three months (cellular imprisonment)
because of burglary and begging.

The Leeuwaardener Courant writes on 24.09.1875 (page 9, column 2):

http://resources2.kb.nl/010585000/pdf/DDD_010586795.pdf (more details)

Andre "Anderl" Guenther Munich Germany

-----Original-Nachricht-----
Von: Joel weiner <joel.alan.weiner@...>
I found a significant relative (Hirsch Endewelt) listed in:
Algemeen politie-band van het koningrijk der Nederlanden. Uitgegeven op last van
den Minister van Justitie, Gravenhage, 1879. VERWIJKDRDE VREEMDELINGEN (zie bladz.
1471, no. 1185 van 1879); berigt van den ambtenaar van het openbaar ministerie bij
he kantongeregt te Deventer, van 21 Febr.

"General police sheet of the kingdom of the Netherlands. Published by
order of the Minister of Justice, The Hague, 1879. (Removed Aliens) See p. 1471,
No. 1185 of 1879), news of the official of the prosecutor dur side non justice in
Deventer, 21 Febr.

I would like to get all the information that might be in the referenced document or
other official files. Does anyone have any suggestions?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dutch Police Records #general

André Günther
 

A few years earlier he was sent to jail for three months (cellular imprisonment)
because of burglary and begging.

The Leeuwaardener Courant writes on 24.09.1875 (page 9, column 2):

http://resources2.kb.nl/010585000/pdf/DDD_010586795.pdf (more details)

Andre "Anderl" Guenther Munich Germany

-----Original-Nachricht-----
Von: Joel weiner <joel.alan.weiner@...>
I found a significant relative (Hirsch Endewelt) listed in:
Algemeen politie-band van het koningrijk der Nederlanden. Uitgegeven op last van
den Minister van Justitie, Gravenhage, 1879. VERWIJKDRDE VREEMDELINGEN (zie bladz.
1471, no. 1185 van 1879); berigt van den ambtenaar van het openbaar ministerie bij
he kantongeregt te Deventer, van 21 Febr.

"General police sheet of the kingdom of the Netherlands. Published by
order of the Minister of Justice, The Hague, 1879. (Removed Aliens) See p. 1471,
No. 1185 of 1879), news of the official of the prosecutor dur side non justice in
Deventer, 21 Febr.

I would like to get all the information that might be in the referenced document or
other official files. Does anyone have any suggestions?


Re: Dutch Police Records #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Joel weiner wrote:
I found a significant relative (Hirsch Endewelt) listed in: Algemeen politie-band
van het koningrijk der Nederlanden. Uitgegeven op last van den Minister van
Justitie, Gravenhage, 1879. VERWIJKDRDE VREEMDELINGEN (zie bladz. 1471, no. 1185
van 1879); berigt
VERWIJDERDE [typical OCR-error]

van den ambtenaar van het openbaar ministerie bij he kantongeregt te
he -> het

Deventer, van 21 Febr. "General police sheet of the kingdom of the Netherlands.
Published by order of the Minister of Justice, The Hague, 1879. (Removed Aliens)
See p. 1471, No. 1185 of 1879), news of the official of the prosecutor dur side
non justice in Deventer, 21 Febr.
bericht = notice, notification "dur side non justice" ???????
kantongerecht = cantonal court

I would like to get all the information that might be in the referenced document
or other official files. Does anyone have any suggestions?
I doubt there is more information, as "removed foreigners" would not be likely to
have a comunity status, nor any court sentence, in those years, I presume.

Perhaps a manual search in the Deventer archives?
<http://www.stadsarchiefdeventer.nl/>


--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dutch Police Records #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Joel weiner wrote:
I found a significant relative (Hirsch Endewelt) listed in: Algemeen politie-band
van het koningrijk der Nederlanden. Uitgegeven op last van den Minister van
Justitie, Gravenhage, 1879. VERWIJKDRDE VREEMDELINGEN (zie bladz. 1471, no. 1185
van 1879); berigt
VERWIJDERDE [typical OCR-error]

van den ambtenaar van het openbaar ministerie bij he kantongeregt te
he -> het

Deventer, van 21 Febr. "General police sheet of the kingdom of the Netherlands.
Published by order of the Minister of Justice, The Hague, 1879. (Removed Aliens)
See p. 1471, No. 1185 of 1879), news of the official of the prosecutor dur side
non justice in Deventer, 21 Febr.
bericht = notice, notification "dur side non justice" ???????
kantongerecht = cantonal court

I would like to get all the information that might be in the referenced document
or other official files. Does anyone have any suggestions?
I doubt there is more information, as "removed foreigners" would not be likely to
have a comunity status, nor any court sentence, in those years, I presume.

Perhaps a manual search in the Deventer archives?
<http://www.stadsarchiefdeventer.nl/>


--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


RIVLIN and NICHOLSHPURG Bendery #bessarabia

Jules Feldman
 

Shneur Zalman RIVLIN, (1872-1949) my wife's grandfather, was born in
Kochanova, Belarus and died in Tel Aviv . When I discovered that my wife's uncle, Menachem
RIVLIN, was born in Bendery in 1903, I was at first convinced that the reference was to Vendrez in
Belarus.

However we have discovered over the years that Shneur Zalman was not the
only one of his family to live in Bendery. Living in Bendery in the years between 1900 and WW1
in addition to Shneur Zalman were:
His brother, Yakov RIVLIN, who was married to Sima Serafima BOGARAD and
their 7 children.
His sister Fruma Dvora RIVLIN and her husband Avraham Shimon ALEXANDROV who
was a Bank Manager and Printer. They were childless and Fruma died in Tel
Aviv.
His sister Chana RIVLIN who was married to her first cousin Efraim Fishel
RIVLIN who was probably born in Chernikov. They had 6 children. One grandson
Feivel RIVLIN and his wife Genia DOLINER lived in Bendery until the
Evacuation in 1941. After WW2 they settled in Omsk.

A more distant relative Elchanan RIVLIN-NICHOLSBERG, born in Karola, also
lived in Bendery. In 1906 he and his son,Yosef RIVLIN-NICHOLSBERG, appear in
the Duma voters list.

Yosef RIVLIN-NICHOLSBERG's children were apparently born in Bendery:
Boris (Dov Ber) "Berko" RIVLIN-NICHOLSBERG (1872) - 1917 he was in St
Petersburg;
Lipa Lipman RIVLIN-NICHOLSBERG (1875) later he was in Kishinev
Chana Gnessia RIVLIN-NICHOLSBERG (1877). She was married to a Dr. WUNDERBAR
and was murdered in 1941 in Jelgava, Latvia.
Yitschak Isaac NICHOLSHPURG (1879) who in 1909 married Chana Miriam ZONIS in
Kishinev.

Will be grateful for any further information on these families.
It seems to be that we have here a distinct case of chain migration from
Belarus to Bendery. Was this common? The usual pattern of chain migration
appears to have been to the New World. Can anyone point out similar cases?

Best,
Jules Feldman
Yizreel, Israel


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia RIVLIN and NICHOLSHPURG Bendery #bessarabia

Jules Feldman
 

Shneur Zalman RIVLIN, (1872-1949) my wife's grandfather, was born in
Kochanova, Belarus and died in Tel Aviv . When I discovered that my wife's uncle, Menachem
RIVLIN, was born in Bendery in 1903, I was at first convinced that the reference was to Vendrez in
Belarus.

However we have discovered over the years that Shneur Zalman was not the
only one of his family to live in Bendery. Living in Bendery in the years between 1900 and WW1
in addition to Shneur Zalman were:
His brother, Yakov RIVLIN, who was married to Sima Serafima BOGARAD and
their 7 children.
His sister Fruma Dvora RIVLIN and her husband Avraham Shimon ALEXANDROV who
was a Bank Manager and Printer. They were childless and Fruma died in Tel
Aviv.
His sister Chana RIVLIN who was married to her first cousin Efraim Fishel
RIVLIN who was probably born in Chernikov. They had 6 children. One grandson
Feivel RIVLIN and his wife Genia DOLINER lived in Bendery until the
Evacuation in 1941. After WW2 they settled in Omsk.

A more distant relative Elchanan RIVLIN-NICHOLSBERG, born in Karola, also
lived in Bendery. In 1906 he and his son,Yosef RIVLIN-NICHOLSBERG, appear in
the Duma voters list.

Yosef RIVLIN-NICHOLSBERG's children were apparently born in Bendery:
Boris (Dov Ber) "Berko" RIVLIN-NICHOLSBERG (1872) - 1917 he was in St
Petersburg;
Lipa Lipman RIVLIN-NICHOLSBERG (1875) later he was in Kishinev
Chana Gnessia RIVLIN-NICHOLSBERG (1877). She was married to a Dr. WUNDERBAR
and was murdered in 1941 in Jelgava, Latvia.
Yitschak Isaac NICHOLSHPURG (1879) who in 1909 married Chana Miriam ZONIS in
Kishinev.

Will be grateful for any further information on these families.
It seems to be that we have here a distinct case of chain migration from
Belarus to Bendery. Was this common? The usual pattern of chain migration
appears to have been to the New World. Can anyone point out similar cases?

Best,
Jules Feldman
Yizreel, Israel


Re: ANYONE KNOW THE MODERN EQUIVALENT OF BATERO OR BATEZO IN HUNGARY OR ROMANIA #romania

viviankahn@...
 

Roger,

The place you're seeking could be Batiz, Szatmar, now Botiz, Romania,
Batiza, Maramaros, now Botiza, Romania; or Batizu/Batizhaza, now Botez,
Romania.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California



On Jun 19, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Roger Adler wrote:

Dear Siggers:
I found a digital death record in Torda for Freide ZELIG date February
1881 which had her birth town as Batezo or Batero. Does anyone know
the
modern equivalent of this town, probably in Hungary or Romania?

Roger Adler
San Antonio, Texas


Romania SIG #Romania Re: ANYONE KNOW THE MODERN EQUIVALENT OF BATERO OR BATEZO IN HUNGARY OR ROMANIA #romania

viviankahn@...
 

Roger,

The place you're seeking could be Batiz, Szatmar, now Botiz, Romania,
Batiza, Maramaros, now Botiza, Romania; or Batizu/Batizhaza, now Botez,
Romania.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California



On Jun 19, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Roger Adler wrote:

Dear Siggers:
I found a digital death record in Torda for Freide ZELIG date February
1881 which had her birth town as Batezo or Batero. Does anyone know
the
modern equivalent of this town, probably in Hungary or Romania?

Roger Adler
San Antonio, Texas


Christine Usdin Passes Away #southafrica

Eli Rabinowitz
 

I have read on Facebook with sadness that Christine Usdin has passed away.
Christine performed many mitzvahs by translating thousands of records >from
Cyrillic and thereby reconnecting so many of us with our roots.
R.I.P. Christine.


Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Christine Usdin Passes Away #southafrica

Eli Rabinowitz
 

I have read on Facebook with sadness that Christine Usdin has passed away.
Christine performed many mitzvahs by translating thousands of records >from
Cyrillic and thereby reconnecting so many of us with our roots.
R.I.P. Christine.


Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia


An article on Jewish DNA testing #hungary

Stuart Ungar
 

An article on Jewish DNA testing and how it led to me meeting a long =
lost "cousin" was just featured in the Louisville Courier-Journal =
newspaper. Interesting for those contemplating taking this next step in =
genealogical research. Here is the link:

=
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20130616/PRIME04/306160016/DNA-test=
ing-reveals-connections-past-each-other?nclick_check=3D1

- Stuart UNGAR
stuartungar@...


Hungary SIG #Hungary An article on Jewish DNA testing #hungary

Stuart Ungar
 

An article on Jewish DNA testing and how it led to me meeting a long =
lost "cousin" was just featured in the Louisville Courier-Journal =
newspaper. Interesting for those contemplating taking this next step in =
genealogical research. Here is the link:

=
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20130616/PRIME04/306160016/DNA-test=
ing-reveals-connections-past-each-other?nclick_check=3D1

- Stuart UNGAR
stuartungar@...


KAPLAN of Oniskis, Lithuania #rabbinic

A S Goldberg
 

I am seeking information on Rabbi Zvi ("Hirsh") Noson KAPLAN who was a
pre-WWII Lithuanian Rabbi and perished during the Holocaust with his
community of the town of Oniskis (known familiarly to its Jews as
"Hanoushishok"). I know he had a son Aaron who was married to a daughter of
Rabbi Yehuda YABLONSKI of Alytus and a daughter who was married to an
Alexander BOSKOVITZ. Nothing is known about other children. It is assumed
that all the Rabbi's family perished during the Holocaust but I wonder if
any descendants managed to survive and, if so, where family members are
currently located.

Please respond to me direct to alancomm@...

Many thanks

Abraham S Goldberg
Jerusalem


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic KAPLAN of Oniskis, Lithuania #rabbinic

A S Goldberg
 

I am seeking information on Rabbi Zvi ("Hirsh") Noson KAPLAN who was a
pre-WWII Lithuanian Rabbi and perished during the Holocaust with his
community of the town of Oniskis (known familiarly to its Jews as
"Hanoushishok"). I know he had a son Aaron who was married to a daughter of
Rabbi Yehuda YABLONSKI of Alytus and a daughter who was married to an
Alexander BOSKOVITZ. Nothing is known about other children. It is assumed
that all the Rabbi's family perished during the Holocaust but I wonder if
any descendants managed to survive and, if so, where family members are
currently located.

Please respond to me direct to alancomm@...

Many thanks

Abraham S Goldberg
Jerusalem


Christine Usdin Passes Away #latvia

Eli Rabinowitz
 

I have read on Facebook with sadness that Christine Usdin has passed away.
Christine performed many mitzvahs by translating thousands of records >from
cyrillic and thereby reconnecting so many of us with our roots.
RIP Christine.

Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia


Latvia SIG #Latvia Christine Usdin Passes Away #latvia

Eli Rabinowitz
 

I have read on Facebook with sadness that Christine Usdin has passed away.
Christine performed many mitzvahs by translating thousands of records >from
cyrillic and thereby reconnecting so many of us with our roots.
RIP Christine.

Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia


Re: Tests that were made at other companies #dna

Philip Trauring
 

Israel,

I don't think anyone transfers samples. The transferred results that
FTDNA handles are specifically results >from Ancestry.com and
23andMe.com because they use the same Illumina OmniExpress chip as
FTDNA. What you're transferring is a computer file generated >from that
chip, not the sample that it was derived from, thus if an autosomal
test has not yet been done yet, you won't be able to do a new one
unless you can get the original sample >from whatever company did the
test originally. If the original company still has a sample, but
doesn't do autosomal tests (i.e. isn't FTDNA, Ancestry.com, or 23andMe),
then your only chance to get an autosomal test done is to get the
original company to give up the sample and send it to FTDNA by mail.
I've never heard of this occurring, but that doesn't mean it can't
happen.

Philip Trauring

On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:36 AM, IsraelP <IsraelP@...> wrote:
I know that Family Tree DNA can transfer test results that come >from
other testing companies.

But does anyone know who holds the samples in those instances.

We have a family member who tested with another comany and we'd like to
do an additional test. Problem is, he died so cannot give another sample.

Can we use the old sample to do a Family Finder?

Israel Pickholtz


Research : Jelinek #hungary

agnespelladeau@...
 

Please, excuse my bad English. I am hoping someone can help me.
My grand mother, Antonia jelinek ( married Gregor) is born in July 1898 in Hungary
(Salgotarjan) but this family was Czech and living in Moravia. His mother was
Erzsebeth Jelinek.
I have a baptism certificate for Erzsebeth >from protektorat cechy a morava of 26 may
1944. It says she was born in june 1867 and his father : Franz Jelinek, kinder des
Jakob Jelinek.
Do you have informations ?
Thanks a lot
Best regards
Agnès Pelladeau
Paris - France

Moderator: Please contact Agnes off-list unless message is of general interest.


DNA Research #DNA Re: Tests that were made at other companies #dna

Philip Trauring
 

Israel,

I don't think anyone transfers samples. The transferred results that
FTDNA handles are specifically results >from Ancestry.com and
23andMe.com because they use the same Illumina OmniExpress chip as
FTDNA. What you're transferring is a computer file generated >from that
chip, not the sample that it was derived from, thus if an autosomal
test has not yet been done yet, you won't be able to do a new one
unless you can get the original sample >from whatever company did the
test originally. If the original company still has a sample, but
doesn't do autosomal tests (i.e. isn't FTDNA, Ancestry.com, or 23andMe),
then your only chance to get an autosomal test done is to get the
original company to give up the sample and send it to FTDNA by mail.
I've never heard of this occurring, but that doesn't mean it can't
happen.

Philip Trauring

On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:36 AM, IsraelP <IsraelP@...> wrote:
I know that Family Tree DNA can transfer test results that come >from
other testing companies.

But does anyone know who holds the samples in those instances.

We have a family member who tested with another comany and we'd like to
do an additional test. Problem is, he died so cannot give another sample.

Can we use the old sample to do a Family Finder?

Israel Pickholtz


Hungary SIG #Hungary Research : Jelinek #hungary

agnespelladeau@...
 

Please, excuse my bad English. I am hoping someone can help me.
My grand mother, Antonia jelinek ( married Gregor) is born in July 1898 in Hungary
(Salgotarjan) but this family was Czech and living in Moravia. His mother was
Erzsebeth Jelinek.
I have a baptism certificate for Erzsebeth >from protektorat cechy a morava of 26 may
1944. It says she was born in june 1867 and his father : Franz Jelinek, kinder des
Jakob Jelinek.
Do you have informations ?
Thanks a lot
Best regards
Agnès Pelladeau
Paris - France

Moderator: Please contact Agnes off-list unless message is of general interest.