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1921 boat list retention/exclusion #general

Hanna Grossman <hannakg@...>
 

My cousins are listed on the arrival sheet for SS Berengaria in September 1921
as retained or excluded.

Ancesstry shows this as image 262 of 745 on T715, Roll 3024. The individuals
are on lines 23 thru 26 and are listed as Ichok Bitanska, Sheina Bitanska,
Brona Bitanska, and Sosea Bitenska.

The names I have for these people are Isador BITENSKY age 18, Shana BITENSKY
age 30, Brana BITENSKY age 12, and their mother variously Rebeca Sara, Sosha
Rivka, and other BITENSKY age about 55. Cann someone interpet what happened
to them at their arrival? And would they be listed on another part of the
arrivals list also?

Where it would say where they had coe form, etc?

Hanna Grossman, Arlington, VA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1921 boat list retention/exclusion #general

Hanna Grossman <hannakg@...>
 

My cousins are listed on the arrival sheet for SS Berengaria in September 1921
as retained or excluded.

Ancesstry shows this as image 262 of 745 on T715, Roll 3024. The individuals
are on lines 23 thru 26 and are listed as Ichok Bitanska, Sheina Bitanska,
Brona Bitanska, and Sosea Bitenska.

The names I have for these people are Isador BITENSKY age 18, Shana BITENSKY
age 30, Brana BITENSKY age 12, and their mother variously Rebeca Sara, Sosha
Rivka, and other BITENSKY age about 55. Cann someone interpet what happened
to them at their arrival? And would they be listed on another part of the
arrivals list also?

Where it would say where they had coe form, etc?

Hanna Grossman, Arlington, VA


Friedrich Moritz STEINER #germany

Juergen Nitsche <junitsche58@...>
 

I am preparing a book about "Jews in Mittweida", located in Middle Saxony,
between Leipzig and Dresden.

I am looking for information about the former director of the theatre
in Mittweida: Friedrich Moritz (called Fritz) STEINER. He was born

in 1871 in Vienna. He worked >from 1925 till 1928 in Mittweida, before
hewas in Kamenz and Bad Schandau. Later he worked in Lauban and Neustadt
(Silesia).
At last he worked in an unknown town in Bohemia, where he died abt. 1933.

He was married with Agnes divorced Korb.

I am looking for information about the short episode in the life of
Fritz STEINER in Mittweida. And I am looking for data about the death
of Fritz STEINER. When and where did he die?

All advice and information are very welcome. Thank you very much in advance!

Juergen Nitsche, Mittweida, Germany JuNitsche58@gmail.com

Researching: STEINER- Vienna, Mittweida


German SIG #Germany Friedrich Moritz STEINER #germany

Juergen Nitsche <junitsche58@...>
 

I am preparing a book about "Jews in Mittweida", located in Middle Saxony,
between Leipzig and Dresden.

I am looking for information about the former director of the theatre
in Mittweida: Friedrich Moritz (called Fritz) STEINER. He was born

in 1871 in Vienna. He worked >from 1925 till 1928 in Mittweida, before
hewas in Kamenz and Bad Schandau. Later he worked in Lauban and Neustadt
(Silesia).
At last he worked in an unknown town in Bohemia, where he died abt. 1933.

He was married with Agnes divorced Korb.

I am looking for information about the short episode in the life of
Fritz STEINER in Mittweida. And I am looking for data about the death
of Fritz STEINER. When and where did he die?

All advice and information are very welcome. Thank you very much in advance!

Juergen Nitsche, Mittweida, Germany JuNitsche58@gmail.com

Researching: STEINER- Vienna, Mittweida


Re: Jewish cemeteries #lithuania

David Shapiro
 

Michelle Sandler wrote:
Are there Jewish cemeteries in these towns and what are the
conditions of these cemeteries?
I have been to the sites of the three Vilna cemeteries. The oldest, the
Shnipeshuk cemetery, was destroyed by the communists in order to build
a sports center. All that remains there is a monument in several
languages commemorating the former cemetery. (The grave of the Vilna
Gaon and others that were buried in his "ohel" were transferred to the
new cemetery).

In the St. Petersburg library there is a manuscript with a map of this
cemetery showing the location of all the graves, and a microfilm copy is
available in the National Library in Jerusalem.

The second cemetery was also destroyed to build a non-sectarian funeral
building. There are still some graves on hills around the building.
There is also a monument built >from tombstones, many of which I
understand had been used in building.

The third, newest cemetery is still in use. It is here that the grave of
the Vilna Gaon is now found. Also, the grave of well known Rabbi Itzela
of Panevezys was transferred to this cemetery when the cemetery of
Panevezys was turned into a park. As far as I understand that is all
that was salvaged >from the Panevezys cemetery (although I wasn't there
myself).

David Shapiro
Jerusalem


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Jewish cemeteries #lithuania

David Shapiro
 

Michelle Sandler wrote:
Are there Jewish cemeteries in these towns and what are the
conditions of these cemeteries?
I have been to the sites of the three Vilna cemeteries. The oldest, the
Shnipeshuk cemetery, was destroyed by the communists in order to build
a sports center. All that remains there is a monument in several
languages commemorating the former cemetery. (The grave of the Vilna
Gaon and others that were buried in his "ohel" were transferred to the
new cemetery).

In the St. Petersburg library there is a manuscript with a map of this
cemetery showing the location of all the graves, and a microfilm copy is
available in the National Library in Jerusalem.

The second cemetery was also destroyed to build a non-sectarian funeral
building. There are still some graves on hills around the building.
There is also a monument built >from tombstones, many of which I
understand had been used in building.

The third, newest cemetery is still in use. It is here that the grave of
the Vilna Gaon is now found. Also, the grave of well known Rabbi Itzela
of Panevezys was transferred to this cemetery when the cemetery of
Panevezys was turned into a park. As far as I understand that is all
that was salvaged >from the Panevezys cemetery (although I wasn't there
myself).

David Shapiro
Jerusalem


Research Miedzyrzec Podlaski - new sources - Looking for partners #poland

דוד נ.א.
 

Hello everyone
Family is Miedzyrzec. I used up all the information I could get from
JRI About Miedzyrzec. Now I would like to hire a paid investigator to
investigate archival sources non-online about Miedzyrzec.
I have been in touch with several investigators who gave me quotes.

I did a good preparatory work to find the existing materials about
Miedzyrzec several archives in Lublin region, and indeed there are
quite a few materials. My only problem is the price.

Now, I'm looking for someone who is interested about family
Miedzyrzec, and want to join my research - the more people we will
have cheaper costs.

Best regards
David Nesher
Israel


JRI Poland #Poland Research Miedzyrzec Podlaski - new sources - Looking for partners #poland

דוד נ.א.
 

Hello everyone
Family is Miedzyrzec. I used up all the information I could get from
JRI About Miedzyrzec. Now I would like to hire a paid investigator to
investigate archival sources non-online about Miedzyrzec.
I have been in touch with several investigators who gave me quotes.

I did a good preparatory work to find the existing materials about
Miedzyrzec several archives in Lublin region, and indeed there are
quite a few materials. My only problem is the price.

Now, I'm looking for someone who is interested about family
Miedzyrzec, and want to join my research - the more people we will
have cheaper costs.

Best regards
David Nesher
Israel


1940: Russian emigres to France #france

Philip Hesske <phesske@...>
 

Dear members of the French SIG forum,

I am searching information about members of my family who hailed from
the former Russian Empire, which they left after 1917 revolution. My
ancestors on the maternal side settled in Paris at the beginning of
the 1920’s. The institution who took care of them upon their arrival
was the Office of Russian refugees (in Paris and Marseille), which
archives are now kept by the OFPRA.

After spending a few years in New York, my grandmother lived with her
parents in the 16th arrondissement and graduated >from Lycée Molière in
July 1926 before starting to study at Ecole du Louvre. At the
beginning of the 1930’s, she met my grandfather who was a graduate
engineer of the Ecole polytechnique fédérale de Lausanne (Switzerland)
and started working at la Compagnie générale de constructions
téléphoniques in the 15th arrondissement. They got married in August
1934 and lived at 45, rue des Favorites.

As of 1940, my grandparents were required to register with Vichy
authorities as foreign Jews and left their Paris apartment in haste,
without taking their furniture in August 1941. They hid in Southern
France, which was not yet occupied at that time and eventually fled to
Switzerland. My mother’s maternal grand-parents managed to hide in
Millau (Aveyron) during the war while my mother’s paternal
grand-parents went to the UK where the younger sister of my
grandfather lived with her husband.

I would be grateful for every valuable information you could provide
me with to carry on my research. Maybe someone among this group might
have information about following persons :

Maternal grand-parents of my mother
- Fanny Isaakovna AYNHORN, born in Yekaterinoslav/Dnjepropetrovsk,
January 30th, 1881
- David Manissovitch KOPELMAN, born in Kishinev (Moldova/Bessarabia –
Russian Empire), October 23rd, 1877
Wedding in Yekaterinoslav/Saint-Petersburg ?

Paternal grandparents of my mother
- Rosalia Lazarevna SILBERKRINE, born in Kherson (Ukraine - Russian
Empire), March 15th (28th), 1879
- Arnold Isaakovitch HANCESS (or « Gantzes »/« Hantzes »), born in
Kherson, January 17th (30th), 1868
Wedding in Yekaterinoslav/Dnjepropetrovsk, April 14th (27th), 1903

Parents of my mother
- Marie KOPELMAN, born in Petrograd/Saint-Petersburg (Russian Empire),
March 6th (February 22nd according to the Julian calendar), 1909
- Eugène HANCESS, born in Shanghai (China), March 13th (February 28th), 1904
Wedding in Paris (15ème arrondissement), August 4th, 1934



Thank you very much for your help.

Best regards,
Philip Hesske (France)


French SIG #France 1940: Russian emigres to France #france

Philip Hesske <phesske@...>
 

Dear members of the French SIG forum,

I am searching information about members of my family who hailed from
the former Russian Empire, which they left after 1917 revolution. My
ancestors on the maternal side settled in Paris at the beginning of
the 1920’s. The institution who took care of them upon their arrival
was the Office of Russian refugees (in Paris and Marseille), which
archives are now kept by the OFPRA.

After spending a few years in New York, my grandmother lived with her
parents in the 16th arrondissement and graduated >from Lycée Molière in
July 1926 before starting to study at Ecole du Louvre. At the
beginning of the 1930’s, she met my grandfather who was a graduate
engineer of the Ecole polytechnique fédérale de Lausanne (Switzerland)
and started working at la Compagnie générale de constructions
téléphoniques in the 15th arrondissement. They got married in August
1934 and lived at 45, rue des Favorites.

As of 1940, my grandparents were required to register with Vichy
authorities as foreign Jews and left their Paris apartment in haste,
without taking their furniture in August 1941. They hid in Southern
France, which was not yet occupied at that time and eventually fled to
Switzerland. My mother’s maternal grand-parents managed to hide in
Millau (Aveyron) during the war while my mother’s paternal
grand-parents went to the UK where the younger sister of my
grandfather lived with her husband.

I would be grateful for every valuable information you could provide
me with to carry on my research. Maybe someone among this group might
have information about following persons :

Maternal grand-parents of my mother
- Fanny Isaakovna AYNHORN, born in Yekaterinoslav/Dnjepropetrovsk,
January 30th, 1881
- David Manissovitch KOPELMAN, born in Kishinev (Moldova/Bessarabia –
Russian Empire), October 23rd, 1877
Wedding in Yekaterinoslav/Saint-Petersburg ?

Paternal grandparents of my mother
- Rosalia Lazarevna SILBERKRINE, born in Kherson (Ukraine - Russian
Empire), March 15th (28th), 1879
- Arnold Isaakovitch HANCESS (or « Gantzes »/« Hantzes »), born in
Kherson, January 17th (30th), 1868
Wedding in Yekaterinoslav/Dnjepropetrovsk, April 14th (27th), 1903

Parents of my mother
- Marie KOPELMAN, born in Petrograd/Saint-Petersburg (Russian Empire),
March 6th (February 22nd according to the Julian calendar), 1909
- Eugène HANCESS, born in Shanghai (China), March 13th (February 28th), 1904
Wedding in Paris (15ème arrondissement), August 4th, 1934



Thank you very much for your help.

Best regards,
Philip Hesske (France)


Looking for information on EISENBERGER families from Bekescaba, Hafdunanas, or Nagykereki, Hungary #hungary

Jake Jacobs
 

Looking for information about Eisenbergers, >from Bekescaba, Hafdunanas, or =
Nagykereki, Hungary, one of whom married my mother's aunt, Serena (Sari) F=
euerlicht. Believe Serena married Salamon Eisenberger , born in Hafdunanas=
, Hungary around 1866. They likely married in Nagykereki about 1889 and m=
ay have lived there for a time; they had 3 children, including Bertalan, bo=
rn about 1891. Believe Bertalan and his family (and maybe parents) moved =
to Bekescaba at some point before 1940. =20

If you have any information, please contact me privately.
Thank you!

Diane Jacobs

Moderator: Off-list responses, please, unless information will be of general
interest.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Looking for information on EISENBERGER families from Bekescaba, Hafdunanas, or Nagykereki, Hungary #hungary

Jake Jacobs
 

Looking for information about Eisenbergers, >from Bekescaba, Hafdunanas, or =
Nagykereki, Hungary, one of whom married my mother's aunt, Serena (Sari) F=
euerlicht. Believe Serena married Salamon Eisenberger , born in Hafdunanas=
, Hungary around 1866. They likely married in Nagykereki about 1889 and m=
ay have lived there for a time; they had 3 children, including Bertalan, bo=
rn about 1891. Believe Bertalan and his family (and maybe parents) moved =
to Bekescaba at some point before 1940. =20

If you have any information, please contact me privately.
Thank you!

Diane Jacobs

Moderator: Off-list responses, please, unless information will be of general
interest.


Special feature of the IAJGS Conference in Seattle and a Conference Preview #germany

Janette Silverman <cochairs@...>
 

For the first time in conference history, the 36th International
Conference on Jewish Genealogy will offer a special program to help
Jewish educators incorporate genealogy and family history into the
school curriculum -- whether it is a day school, synagogue school
or a high school. The program will take place on the first day of the
conference, Sunday, August 7, >from 9am to 2pm. The educators' program
requires a separate registration >from the regular conference;
attendees at the educators' sessions receive breakfast and lunch and,
for an extra fee, they can attend the keynote lecture.

This year's conference will also feature a Jewish Film Festival created
by Jewish film scholar and teacher of cinema Eric Goldman. Other
highlights of the Seattle conference include the opening night keynote
address by Dr. Devin Naar, chair of the University of Washington
Sephardic Studies Program, and the banquet address by "legal
genealogist" Judy Russell, a Certified Genealogist and Certified
Genealogical Lecturer. As at previous conferences, remote streaming of
selected programs will be available through LIVE!

The early registration period for the regular conference, which runs
until April 30, offers the lowest fees, with savings of $55 for the full
conference. Hotel rooms are going very quickly. To get a room at the
conference rate, you must first register for the conference.

For a conference preview and a preview of what you can expect in
Seattle, check out the webinar given by co-chair Chuck Weinstein to
IGRA earlier in March - go to http://www.iajgs2016.org and click on
the webinar - don't forget to check out all the other great
information on the website!

We're looking forward to seeing you in Seattle August 7-12.

Janette Silverman, Chuck Weinstein, Phyllis Grossman-Conference Co-Chairs
For conference information, visit http://www.iajgs2016.org


German SIG #Germany Special feature of the IAJGS Conference in Seattle and a Conference Preview #germany

Janette Silverman <cochairs@...>
 

For the first time in conference history, the 36th International
Conference on Jewish Genealogy will offer a special program to help
Jewish educators incorporate genealogy and family history into the
school curriculum -- whether it is a day school, synagogue school
or a high school. The program will take place on the first day of the
conference, Sunday, August 7, >from 9am to 2pm. The educators' program
requires a separate registration >from the regular conference;
attendees at the educators' sessions receive breakfast and lunch and,
for an extra fee, they can attend the keynote lecture.

This year's conference will also feature a Jewish Film Festival created
by Jewish film scholar and teacher of cinema Eric Goldman. Other
highlights of the Seattle conference include the opening night keynote
address by Dr. Devin Naar, chair of the University of Washington
Sephardic Studies Program, and the banquet address by "legal
genealogist" Judy Russell, a Certified Genealogist and Certified
Genealogical Lecturer. As at previous conferences, remote streaming of
selected programs will be available through LIVE!

The early registration period for the regular conference, which runs
until April 30, offers the lowest fees, with savings of $55 for the full
conference. Hotel rooms are going very quickly. To get a room at the
conference rate, you must first register for the conference.

For a conference preview and a preview of what you can expect in
Seattle, check out the webinar given by co-chair Chuck Weinstein to
IGRA earlier in March - go to http://www.iajgs2016.org and click on
the webinar - don't forget to check out all the other great
information on the website!

We're looking forward to seeing you in Seattle August 7-12.

Janette Silverman, Chuck Weinstein, Phyllis Grossman-Conference Co-Chairs
For conference information, visit http://www.iajgs2016.org


Re: Prison and General Hospital: Special addresses in Lemberg (Lwow Lviv) and great site for maps #galicia

Roman Ravve
 

It was declared the State of Siege in Galicia in 1864 to 1865, after
the uprising started in 1863. Most of the activists were youngsters.

Probably, this might be the explanation.

Regards,
Roman Ravve
Ukraine, Russia, Belarus: local archives research


Simon Kreindler <simonkreindler@sympatico.ca> wrote:

<<... Last year, I discovered an 1864 death record in GG's All Galicia
Database for a Simon Kreindler whom I believe was my GG
Grandfather. The notation on his record >from the archive in L'viv
indicated he was a prisoner or convict and the house number was
360 2/4. You note that this house number corresponds to the
location of the jail in Lemberg and indicate you found records for
many young men who died in this same place. My GG GF was
actually 74 when he died there but, leaving his age aside, I am
curious whether you (or any other GG members) have any thoughts
about why so many Jewish men were in jail in Lemberg during that time?>>


Re: Prison and General Hospital: Special addresses in Lemberg (Lwow Lviv) and great site for maps #galicia

Odeda Zlotnick
 

Actually, I said "single men" not young men -- to the best of my memory,
unlike (some) other death records, convicts never have spouses
mentioned -- which is not to say they weren't married. They were not
necessarily young, nor unwedded.

It's a good question. I hadn't actually thought of why Jewish men were in
prison - and, given the huge proportion of Jews in Lwow in those days, it
stands to reason there would be some in prison as well. Was their part in
among the prisoners higher than the general population? Lower? It
would certainly be an interesting sociological-historical study for
someone to do. (Does anyone know if it was done?) A separate question
of course would be the relative number of the deaths in of Jewish
prisoners, as opposed to the number of non-Jews.

To rephrase your question, Simon: I too am wondering why were people
put in prison in Lwow? Why were Jews put in prison in Lwow? (Same
reasons? Different reasons?) There would be crime of course. But what
about debts? Politics? Etc.

Odeda Zlotnick
Researching BLASS, KULIKOW BOTTWIN and MELLER >from Lwow
(Lemberg) and Vienna


Simon Kreindler <simonkreindler@sympatico.ca> wrote:

<<... I found your post interesting and intriguing. Last year, I discovered
an 1864 death record in GG's All Galicia Database for a Simon Kreindler
whom I believe was my GG Grandfather. The notation on his record >from
the archive in L'viv indicated he was a prisoner or convict and the
house number was 360 2/4. You note that this house number
corresponds to the location of the jail in Lemberg and indicate you found
records for many young men who died in this same place.... >>


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Prison and General Hospital: Special addresses in Lemberg (Lwow Lviv) and great site for maps #galicia

Roman Ravve
 

It was declared the State of Siege in Galicia in 1864 to 1865, after
the uprising started in 1863. Most of the activists were youngsters.

Probably, this might be the explanation.

Regards,
Roman Ravve
Ukraine, Russia, Belarus: local archives research


Simon Kreindler <simonkreindler@sympatico.ca> wrote:

<<... Last year, I discovered an 1864 death record in GG's All Galicia
Database for a Simon Kreindler whom I believe was my GG
Grandfather. The notation on his record >from the archive in L'viv
indicated he was a prisoner or convict and the house number was
360 2/4. You note that this house number corresponds to the
location of the jail in Lemberg and indicate you found records for
many young men who died in this same place. My GG GF was
actually 74 when he died there but, leaving his age aside, I am
curious whether you (or any other GG members) have any thoughts
about why so many Jewish men were in jail in Lemberg during that time?>>


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Prison and General Hospital: Special addresses in Lemberg (Lwow Lviv) and great site for maps #galicia

Odeda Zlotnick
 

Actually, I said "single men" not young men -- to the best of my memory,
unlike (some) other death records, convicts never have spouses
mentioned -- which is not to say they weren't married. They were not
necessarily young, nor unwedded.

It's a good question. I hadn't actually thought of why Jewish men were in
prison - and, given the huge proportion of Jews in Lwow in those days, it
stands to reason there would be some in prison as well. Was their part in
among the prisoners higher than the general population? Lower? It
would certainly be an interesting sociological-historical study for
someone to do. (Does anyone know if it was done?) A separate question
of course would be the relative number of the deaths in of Jewish
prisoners, as opposed to the number of non-Jews.

To rephrase your question, Simon: I too am wondering why were people
put in prison in Lwow? Why were Jews put in prison in Lwow? (Same
reasons? Different reasons?) There would be crime of course. But what
about debts? Politics? Etc.

Odeda Zlotnick
Researching BLASS, KULIKOW BOTTWIN and MELLER >from Lwow
(Lemberg) and Vienna


Simon Kreindler <simonkreindler@sympatico.ca> wrote:

<<... I found your post interesting and intriguing. Last year, I discovered
an 1864 death record in GG's All Galicia Database for a Simon Kreindler
whom I believe was my GG Grandfather. The notation on his record >from
the archive in L'viv indicated he was a prisoner or convict and the
house number was 360 2/4. You note that this house number
corresponds to the location of the jail in Lemberg and indicate you found
records for many young men who died in this same place.... >>


Re: Grodno cemetery #belarus

Linda D. Epstein <l.epstein@...>
 

I visited a cemetery in Grodno back in 2011. It was a rather large
cemetery and was still maintained by a keeper.

Photos of that trip (I'm trying to get McClatchy to get the
story back on the site) is here:


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article24429709.html


Photo 21 shows a close up of the cemetery.

Linda D. Epstein
l.epstein@verizon.net
Bethesda, MD

TIKOTZINSKI/EPSTEIN: Sokolka, Grodno---> Elmira, NY ***
SPUND/MORRIS/SHAPIRO: Minsk ---> Washington, DC and Chicago, IL ***
WEINSTEIN: Makow, Poland, (Lomza Gubernia) ---> Israel and NYC, US ***
SAFFIAN/SAFIAN: Makow, Poland, (Lomza Gubernia) ---> LA, CA, NYC, US =
***
WOLFOWICH: Krinky, Grodno ***GROSSMAN: RUSSIA ---> Utica, NY


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Grodno cemetery #belarus

Linda D. Epstein <l.epstein@...>
 

I visited a cemetery in Grodno back in 2011. It was a rather large
cemetery and was still maintained by a keeper.

Photos of that trip (I'm trying to get McClatchy to get the
story back on the site) is here:


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article24429709.html


Photo 21 shows a close up of the cemetery.

Linda D. Epstein
l.epstein@verizon.net
Bethesda, MD

TIKOTZINSKI/EPSTEIN: Sokolka, Grodno---> Elmira, NY ***
SPUND/MORRIS/SHAPIRO: Minsk ---> Washington, DC and Chicago, IL ***
WEINSTEIN: Makow, Poland, (Lomza Gubernia) ---> Israel and NYC, US ***
SAFFIAN/SAFIAN: Makow, Poland, (Lomza Gubernia) ---> LA, CA, NYC, US =
***
WOLFOWICH: Krinky, Grodno ***GROSSMAN: RUSSIA ---> Utica, NY

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