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Emmi and Boske #hungary

Georges Graner
 

Dear H-siggers,

I would like to thank all those among you who answered my question.

It is clear that Boske (with two dots on the O) is a nickname for
Erzebet (Elisabeth in English) whereas Emmi could represent either Emma
or Emilia. Both are girls, of course.

Best regards

Georges Graner (Paris, France)


Hungary SIG #Hungary Emmi and Boske #hungary

Georges Graner
 

Dear H-siggers,

I would like to thank all those among you who answered my question.

It is clear that Boske (with two dots on the O) is a nickname for
Erzebet (Elisabeth in English) whereas Emmi could represent either Emma
or Emilia. Both are girls, of course.

Best regards

Georges Graner (Paris, France)


birth record for someone born in Belgian DP camp #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

Dear SIG-gers,

I have an interesting question. If there is someone who was born in a
Belgian DP camp after the war an the person has never been registered in a
birth register is there a way to do that in Belgium?

Did birth homes, midwifes etc. keep track of babies born in such DP camps?

regards,

Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/Historian/Private tour guide


Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@...
cell: +36-30-546-6950

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Re: Given Names Emmi and Boske #hungary

tom
 

boske is a common nickname for erzsebet, which is female. i have never heard of
emmi, but emma seems likely as a female name, or possibly emilia, and emod and
emil are similar male names.


....... tom klein, toronto

georges.graner@... wrote:

I found two people whose given names are Emmi and Boske.

Are they girls or boys ?

What are their "official" given names ?


Hungary SIG #Hungary birth record for someone born in Belgian DP camp #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

Dear SIG-gers,

I have an interesting question. If there is someone who was born in a
Belgian DP camp after the war an the person has never been registered in a
birth register is there a way to do that in Belgium?

Did birth homes, midwifes etc. keep track of babies born in such DP camps?

regards,

Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/Historian/Private tour guide


Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@...
cell: +36-30-546-6950

Moderator: You are more likely to get a useful response if you send this query
to the JewishGen General Discussion list.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Given Names Emmi and Boske #hungary

tom
 

boske is a common nickname for erzsebet, which is female. i have never heard of
emmi, but emma seems likely as a female name, or possibly emilia, and emod and
emil are similar male names.


....... tom klein, toronto

georges.graner@... wrote:

I found two people whose given names are Emmi and Boske.

Are they girls or boys ?

What are their "official" given names ?


Re: h-sig digest: March 01, 2017 #hungary

bogarjudit@...
 

Moderator: Please make sure that messages sent to H-SIG Digest include a substantive
subject line.


Hello,

Hungarian here. Both are girl names; 'Emmi' is a common nickname for 'Emma'=
, and 'B=F6ske' is a nickname for 'Erzs=E9bet', the Hungarian version of El=
izabeth.

I hope this helps,

Judit
________________________________________

1. Given Names Emmi and Boske

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Subject: Given Names Emmi and Boske
From: georges.graner@...
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 16:46:04 +0100
X-Message-Number: 1

Hello

I found two people whose given names are Emmi and Boske.

Are they girls or boys ?

What are their "official" given names ?

Thank you for your help.

Georges Graner (Paris, France)


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: March 01, 2017 #hungary

bogarjudit@...
 

Moderator: Please make sure that messages sent to H-SIG Digest include a substantive
subject line.


Hello,

Hungarian here. Both are girl names; 'Emmi' is a common nickname for 'Emma'=
, and 'B=F6ske' is a nickname for 'Erzs=E9bet', the Hungarian version of El=
izabeth.

I hope this helps,

Judit
________________________________________

1. Given Names Emmi and Boske

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Given Names Emmi and Boske
From: georges.graner@...
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 16:46:04 +0100
X-Message-Number: 1

Hello

I found two people whose given names are Emmi and Boske.

Are they girls or boys ?

What are their "official" given names ?

Thank you for your help.

Georges Graner (Paris, France)


Needle in the haystack requests arrising from 1901 census Ireland - MORRIS, WELSKEY aka LEWIS #general

Philippa Robinson
 

In the late 1990s I did a lot of research into the Jewish communities
of Derry (aka Londonderry) which is now in Northern Ireland, a
political entity which didnt exist at the time of the 1901 and 1911
censuses.

I found out quite a lot about some of the people listed in those
censuses and met or corresponded with some people who had grown up
Jewish in Derry (most deceased since then) or their children or
grandchildren. A couple of families listed in the 1901 census have
proved elusive. Head of household Robert MORRIS (born approx 1872)
came >from Poland and his wife Bertha (born ~ 1876) is listed as coming
from Russia. Three year old Joseph was born in Armagh, also now in N
Ireland; while one year old Bernard was born in Derry. I found no
record of UK naturalisation certificates for these names. I dont know
where they went to and I dont know whether they were related to other
Jewish Morris families in Ireland. I wonder whether they were related
to the ROBINSON (ROTEROSEN), GORFINKLE, LAZARUS aka STEINSAPIR
families all >from Raigrod, Poland ... many of them subsequently went
to the US. So I just have to hope to come across someone who has a
connection with this family and has done some research.

The WELSKEY/WELSKY family is also very elusive as they changed their
surname to LEWIS when they emigrated to the U.S. in 1904 and 1905. The
shipping manifest mentions Lewis' Welsky's brother Beni Welsky in New
York. Benjamin Welskey is listed in the 1901 census in Derry as
"brother". When the rest of the family went to join them they used the
surname LEWIS. Sarah Lewis was going to her husband Simon Lewis at
1414 Walnut street Toledo (Ohio).

Sarah Welskey (1901 census)/Lewis (1905 ship manifest) was born
approx. 1875, Lewis Welskey/Simon Lewis approx. 1870, Benjimin Welskey
approx 1872
children born in Derry:
Jacob Welskey - Oct - Dec 1893 aka Jack
Alex Welskey born spring 1896 (probably same child as Alick in census return)
Lily Welskey prob. born 1897-8 ; both Alick and Lily are listed as 3
years old in census but on the ship's manifest Alexander is two years
older than Lilly
Sarah Leah Welskey birth registration between Jan and March 1898
Ethel Welskey - between Apr - Jun 1900
Grace Welskey - Apr - Jun 1902

Oddly the children are listed on the ship manifest as all being from
Russia, according to my typed record.

There is a gravestone of a Jack Lewis 1893-1960 in Cleveland, I read.
I saw an obit for a Simon Lewis, native of "Russia", but he spent only
3 years in England and came to US at the age of 15 so definitely not
the father of the Welskey children and unlikely to have been a second
husband of Sarah Welskey. I think it fairly safe to assume that her
husband changed his name and moved >from NY to Ohio. There may have
been some connection with the Steinsapir family (surname Lazarus while
in Derrry) who went to Ohio. Both families were members of Londonderry
Hebrew Congregation so may have kept in touch. The Steinsapirs were I
believe closely related to the family of Barnett Roterosen/Robinson
and Annie Gorfinkle who settled in the Boston area, but subsequent
generations in the US lost contact. I'm not a Roterosen but met two
grandaughters of Barnett and Annie Robinson whose fathers were both
born in Derry. They had a few very interesting family tales.

So any descendents of Lewis WELSKEY, Simon LEWIS or Benjamin
WELSKEY/WELSKY with family tales are begged to get in touch. Or
anyone researching Ohio Jewish history who can give me a more concrete
lead on which LEWISes have a WELSKEY connection.

~ Philippa Robinson

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Needle in the haystack requests arrising from 1901 census Ireland - MORRIS, WELSKEY aka LEWIS #general

Philippa Robinson
 

In the late 1990s I did a lot of research into the Jewish communities
of Derry (aka Londonderry) which is now in Northern Ireland, a
political entity which didnt exist at the time of the 1901 and 1911
censuses.

I found out quite a lot about some of the people listed in those
censuses and met or corresponded with some people who had grown up
Jewish in Derry (most deceased since then) or their children or
grandchildren. A couple of families listed in the 1901 census have
proved elusive. Head of household Robert MORRIS (born approx 1872)
came >from Poland and his wife Bertha (born ~ 1876) is listed as coming
from Russia. Three year old Joseph was born in Armagh, also now in N
Ireland; while one year old Bernard was born in Derry. I found no
record of UK naturalisation certificates for these names. I dont know
where they went to and I dont know whether they were related to other
Jewish Morris families in Ireland. I wonder whether they were related
to the ROBINSON (ROTEROSEN), GORFINKLE, LAZARUS aka STEINSAPIR
families all >from Raigrod, Poland ... many of them subsequently went
to the US. So I just have to hope to come across someone who has a
connection with this family and has done some research.

The WELSKEY/WELSKY family is also very elusive as they changed their
surname to LEWIS when they emigrated to the U.S. in 1904 and 1905. The
shipping manifest mentions Lewis' Welsky's brother Beni Welsky in New
York. Benjamin Welskey is listed in the 1901 census in Derry as
"brother". When the rest of the family went to join them they used the
surname LEWIS. Sarah Lewis was going to her husband Simon Lewis at
1414 Walnut street Toledo (Ohio).

Sarah Welskey (1901 census)/Lewis (1905 ship manifest) was born
approx. 1875, Lewis Welskey/Simon Lewis approx. 1870, Benjimin Welskey
approx 1872
children born in Derry:
Jacob Welskey - Oct - Dec 1893 aka Jack
Alex Welskey born spring 1896 (probably same child as Alick in census return)
Lily Welskey prob. born 1897-8 ; both Alick and Lily are listed as 3
years old in census but on the ship's manifest Alexander is two years
older than Lilly
Sarah Leah Welskey birth registration between Jan and March 1898
Ethel Welskey - between Apr - Jun 1900
Grace Welskey - Apr - Jun 1902

Oddly the children are listed on the ship manifest as all being from
Russia, according to my typed record.

There is a gravestone of a Jack Lewis 1893-1960 in Cleveland, I read.
I saw an obit for a Simon Lewis, native of "Russia", but he spent only
3 years in England and came to US at the age of 15 so definitely not
the father of the Welskey children and unlikely to have been a second
husband of Sarah Welskey. I think it fairly safe to assume that her
husband changed his name and moved >from NY to Ohio. There may have
been some connection with the Steinsapir family (surname Lazarus while
in Derrry) who went to Ohio. Both families were members of Londonderry
Hebrew Congregation so may have kept in touch. The Steinsapirs were I
believe closely related to the family of Barnett Roterosen/Robinson
and Annie Gorfinkle who settled in the Boston area, but subsequent
generations in the US lost contact. I'm not a Roterosen but met two
grandaughters of Barnett and Annie Robinson whose fathers were both
born in Derry. They had a few very interesting family tales.

So any descendents of Lewis WELSKEY, Simon LEWIS or Benjamin
WELSKEY/WELSKY with family tales are begged to get in touch. Or
anyone researching Ohio Jewish history who can give me a more concrete
lead on which LEWISes have a WELSKEY connection.

~ Philippa Robinson

MODERATOR NOTE; As a courtesy to readers, please post surnames one is researching
in upper case letters.


Ruth Belopolsky Soffer Marquis #general

Philippa Robinson
 

hello

I've been trying off an on for a while to find any living friends or
relatives of Ruth Belopolsky Soffer Marquis (1917-1995), born in NY,
worked in Chicago and then Ann Arbor Michigan. I think Ruth and
Stewart Marquis had children. I wrote to the U. of Michigan alumni
office but they had no information.

The reason I'm looking is because when my father died we found he had
kept personal letters >from Ruth Soffer when she worked with
Encyclopedia Brittanica in Chicago circa 1940. She was a lovely
writer. Perhaps they met when Ruth was at Hunter College? Or I wonder
if she had any connection with Milton Soffer whom my father would have
known when Milton was a chemistry postgrad. student at Harvard U.

Thanks if you can help. I'm usually looking for forward connections of
people rather than for their ancestry, so it's difficult.

~ Philippa Robinson

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ruth Belopolsky Soffer Marquis #general

Philippa Robinson
 

hello

I've been trying off an on for a while to find any living friends or
relatives of Ruth Belopolsky Soffer Marquis (1917-1995), born in NY,
worked in Chicago and then Ann Arbor Michigan. I think Ruth and
Stewart Marquis had children. I wrote to the U. of Michigan alumni
office but they had no information.

The reason I'm looking is because when my father died we found he had
kept personal letters >from Ruth Soffer when she worked with
Encyclopedia Brittanica in Chicago circa 1940. She was a lovely
writer. Perhaps they met when Ruth was at Hunter College? Or I wonder
if she had any connection with Milton Soffer whom my father would have
known when Milton was a chemistry postgrad. student at Harvard U.

Thanks if you can help. I'm usually looking for forward connections of
people rather than for their ancestry, so it's difficult.

~ Philippa Robinson

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately with contact information.


Ester Csaky #general

Philippa Robinson
 

I replied to an archived message >from Ester Csaky who was looking for
geneological information about Abram Garfinkiel of Poland and Ireland,

I looked up Ester Csaky on line and it appears she was the founder of
an Australian Jewish Geneological Society but is no longer mentioned
on their pages. I also found a reference to a librarian of that name
at a Methodist college in Australia but the head librarian there
doesnt recognise the name. There is also an item about Ester Csaky
native of Poland and husband Tibi Csaky of Israel, both long-term
residents of Australia but speak Hebrew at home.

Can someone tell me whether Ester Csaky is still alive, and if so, how
to contact her?

regards

Philippa Robinson


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ester Csaky #general

Philippa Robinson
 

I replied to an archived message >from Ester Csaky who was looking for
geneological information about Abram Garfinkiel of Poland and Ireland,

I looked up Ester Csaky on line and it appears she was the founder of
an Australian Jewish Geneological Society but is no longer mentioned
on their pages. I also found a reference to a librarian of that name
at a Methodist college in Australia but the head librarian there
doesnt recognise the name. There is also an item about Ester Csaky
native of Poland and husband Tibi Csaky of Israel, both long-term
residents of Australia but speak Hebrew at home.

Can someone tell me whether Ester Csaky is still alive, and if so, how
to contact her?

regards

Philippa Robinson


IAJGS Records Access Alert Postings February 2017 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

As mentioned previously, every month I will be posting a listing of the
IAJGS Records Access Alert topics >from the previous month for you to see the
variety of issues. Some were posted on this discussion group as they were
final edicts, but advocacy, and pending legislation and regulations- were
not posted to the discussion group-all postings are included below. Any
postings that had a time limit for access, such as free access that has
expired are not included below. Many legislatures started to meet in their
new sessions.

. (Canada-Manitoba) Prairie Immigration Experience

. (Czech Republic) Constitutional Court Retains Archives Access to Nazi and
Communist Era Documents

. (European Union) Google's Latest Transparency Report on
Removing-Delinking Requests

. (Hungary) EHRI Blog Post: Murdered on the Verge of Survival--Massacres
Last Days of Siege of Budapest 1945

. (India) Supreme Court Orders Search Engines to Remove Search Results for
PreNatal Sex Determination-RTBF?

. (Japan) Japan's Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Google in Right to be
Forgotten Case

. (Netherlands- Surinam) Portuguese Jewish Community of Amsterdam Surinam
Archives Digitized-Online Access Free.

. (Poland) Poland Places Names of Auschwitz Database of Prison Guards
Online

. (UK) Bill in Parliament Establishing Electronic Marriage Registration
Abolishing Marriage Register Books

. (US) Federal Communications Commission May Stay Rule To Go Into Effect on
March 2 on Online Privacy

. (US) Library of Congress Commemorates 100th Anniversary of US Entry to
World War l

. (US) National Archives Record Group 242: Collection of Foreign Records
Seized

. (US-CA, VA, VT) Updates on California Vermont, Virginia

. (US-IA) Iowa Drops Price on Non-Certified Copies of Vital Records and
Pending Rule Change to Permit General Public Access Statewide Vital Records
System

. (US-IA) Birth Certificates Reissued For Those Issued Between May 1993 and
October 2009

. (US-IN) Indiana Archives New Building-Funding in Jeopardy

. (US-Virginia) Update on Library of Virginia Budget Cuts and
Closures-Genealogists Did it Again!

. (US-VT) H-111 Revision of Vital Records Statutes In Vermont

IAJGS has opened its Records Access Alerts to anyone who is interested.
This was announced previously. We now have subscribers >from many
genealogical organizations not previously able to subscribe. To be on top of
what is happening I encourage you to register for the Records Access Alerts
to receive the information in a timely manner. If you are interested in any
of the above items, please register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert and
look at them in the archives. To register for the IAJGS Records Access
Alert go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts
and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which
genealogical organization you belong to-a society, SIG or a subscriber of
JewishGen, Avotaynu Online, Legal Genealogist etc. You will receive an
email response that you have to reply to, or the subscription will not be
finalized. The alerts are archived and once you register you may access the
archives at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/.
The IAJGS Records Access Alert is not a daily announcement list. Depending
on what happens worldwide, there may be no postings for several days and
other times there may be several in one day.

These are listed alphabetically not chronologically. Each month the locales
covered differ.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IAJGS Records Access Alert Postings February 2017 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

As mentioned previously, every month I will be posting a listing of the
IAJGS Records Access Alert topics >from the previous month for you to see the
variety of issues. Some were posted on this discussion group as they were
final edicts, but advocacy, and pending legislation and regulations- were
not posted to the discussion group-all postings are included below. Any
postings that had a time limit for access, such as free access that has
expired are not included below. Many legislatures started to meet in their
new sessions.

. (Canada-Manitoba) Prairie Immigration Experience

. (Czech Republic) Constitutional Court Retains Archives Access to Nazi and
Communist Era Documents

. (European Union) Google's Latest Transparency Report on
Removing-Delinking Requests

. (Hungary) EHRI Blog Post: Murdered on the Verge of Survival--Massacres
Last Days of Siege of Budapest 1945

. (India) Supreme Court Orders Search Engines to Remove Search Results for
PreNatal Sex Determination-RTBF?

. (Japan) Japan's Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Google in Right to be
Forgotten Case

. (Netherlands- Surinam) Portuguese Jewish Community of Amsterdam Surinam
Archives Digitized-Online Access Free.

. (Poland) Poland Places Names of Auschwitz Database of Prison Guards
Online

. (UK) Bill in Parliament Establishing Electronic Marriage Registration
Abolishing Marriage Register Books

. (US) Federal Communications Commission May Stay Rule To Go Into Effect on
March 2 on Online Privacy

. (US) Library of Congress Commemorates 100th Anniversary of US Entry to
World War l

. (US) National Archives Record Group 242: Collection of Foreign Records
Seized

. (US-CA, VA, VT) Updates on California Vermont, Virginia

. (US-IA) Iowa Drops Price on Non-Certified Copies of Vital Records and
Pending Rule Change to Permit General Public Access Statewide Vital Records
System

. (US-IA) Birth Certificates Reissued For Those Issued Between May 1993 and
October 2009

. (US-IN) Indiana Archives New Building-Funding in Jeopardy

. (US-Virginia) Update on Library of Virginia Budget Cuts and
Closures-Genealogists Did it Again!

. (US-VT) H-111 Revision of Vital Records Statutes In Vermont

IAJGS has opened its Records Access Alerts to anyone who is interested.
This was announced previously. We now have subscribers >from many
genealogical organizations not previously able to subscribe. To be on top of
what is happening I encourage you to register for the Records Access Alerts
to receive the information in a timely manner. If you are interested in any
of the above items, please register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert and
look at them in the archives. To register for the IAJGS Records Access
Alert go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts
and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which
genealogical organization you belong to-a society, SIG or a subscriber of
JewishGen, Avotaynu Online, Legal Genealogist etc. You will receive an
email response that you have to reply to, or the subscription will not be
finalized. The alerts are archived and once you register you may access the
archives at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/.
The IAJGS Records Access Alert is not a daily announcement list. Depending
on what happens worldwide, there may be no postings for several days and
other times there may be several in one day.

These are listed alphabetically not chronologically. Each month the locales
covered differ.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Two People, 3 Marriages?? #general

KERRY GREENHUT <klg6675@...>
 

Does anyone have any ideas why one person would have multiple marriage records
(3 marriage license applications - the images are online) in 3 different years
and in 2 separate U.S. states, marrying the same woman? And each record gives
the name of a different person who officiated at the (secular) wedding.

Thanks.

Kerry Greenhut
klg6675@...
Researching: GREENHUT, BOSCHAN, LOWY, NAGLER, ROSEN, DAVIDOWICZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Two People, 3 Marriages?? #general

KERRY GREENHUT <klg6675@...>
 

Does anyone have any ideas why one person would have multiple marriage records
(3 marriage license applications - the images are online) in 3 different years
and in 2 separate U.S. states, marrying the same woman? And each record gives
the name of a different person who officiated at the (secular) wedding.

Thanks.

Kerry Greenhut
klg6675@...
Researching: GREENHUT, BOSCHAN, LOWY, NAGLER, ROSEN, DAVIDOWICZ


On IGRA Website-Inventory of Landsmanshaft material at the Central Archives #general

Elena Bazes
 

An inventory of Landsmanshaft material held at the Central Archives
for the History of the Jewish People (CAHJP), compiled by Avrohom
Krauss, is now available on the IGRA (Israel Genealogy Research
Asssociation) website.

To view the inventory go to:
http://genealogy.org.il/resources/cahjp-lands-inv/

Avrohom began this project prior to the IAJGS Conference in Jerusalem
in 2015. In doing research, he found that the one repository that
proved to have a large amount of material was the Central Archives for
the History of the Jewish People (CAHJP) in Jerusalem.

An in-depth discussion of this project entitled "Landsmanshaftn
Research in Israel" will appear in the Winter 2016 edition of
"Avotaynu", Volume XXXII, Number 4.

Avrohom is a genealogist and educator who specializes in uniquely
Jewish resources. He has spoken at the IAJGS conferences in Los
Angeles, Paris, Boston, Salt Lake City, Jerusalem and Seattle. He has
published articles on landsmanshaft records, Jewish social services,
immigration research and date discrepancies in "Avotaynu".

Elena Biegel Bazes
IGRA Publicity Chairperson


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen On IGRA Website-Inventory of Landsmanshaft material at the Central Archives #general

Elena Bazes
 

An inventory of Landsmanshaft material held at the Central Archives
for the History of the Jewish People (CAHJP), compiled by Avrohom
Krauss, is now available on the IGRA (Israel Genealogy Research
Asssociation) website.

To view the inventory go to:
http://genealogy.org.il/resources/cahjp-lands-inv/

Avrohom began this project prior to the IAJGS Conference in Jerusalem
in 2015. In doing research, he found that the one repository that
proved to have a large amount of material was the Central Archives for
the History of the Jewish People (CAHJP) in Jerusalem.

An in-depth discussion of this project entitled "Landsmanshaftn
Research in Israel" will appear in the Winter 2016 edition of
"Avotaynu", Volume XXXII, Number 4.

Avrohom is a genealogist and educator who specializes in uniquely
Jewish resources. He has spoken at the IAJGS conferences in Los
Angeles, Paris, Boston, Salt Lake City, Jerusalem and Seattle. He has
published articles on landsmanshaft records, Jewish social services,
immigration research and date discrepancies in "Avotaynu".

Elena Biegel Bazes
IGRA Publicity Chairperson