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Jewish Genealogy of Krakow & Western Galicia #general

Michael Hoffman
 

Please note that the www.shoreshim.org website will cease to exist after
June 2018 and will be superseded by a new website at
https://www.krakowjewishheritage.org/home which will be incorporating
the data >from the Shoreshim.org database. You can still do searches for Free
but for an annual membership fee of $29 you can gain access to the full database.

Currently the new website does not have all the datasets online, but you can
still use shoreshim do do some limited searches.

Michael Hoffman

SCHAMROTH, SHAMROTH, SHAMROCK, Krakow, UK, USA
URVATER, Krakow, USA
BERGER, Grabowo/Grabova, Poland, USA
HOFFMAN, OCHMAN, OFFMAN, Kiev, Belaya Tserkov, Ukraine, UK
OSTROFSKY, Kiev, Belaya Tserkov, Ukraine, UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Genealogy of Krakow & Western Galicia #general

Michael Hoffman
 

Please note that the www.shoreshim.org website will cease to exist after
June 2018 and will be superseded by a new website at
https://www.krakowjewishheritage.org/home which will be incorporating
the data >from the Shoreshim.org database. You can still do searches for Free
but for an annual membership fee of $29 you can gain access to the full database.

Currently the new website does not have all the datasets online, but you can
still use shoreshim do do some limited searches.

Michael Hoffman

SCHAMROTH, SHAMROTH, SHAMROCK, Krakow, UK, USA
URVATER, Krakow, USA
BERGER, Grabowo/Grabova, Poland, USA
HOFFMAN, OCHMAN, OFFMAN, Kiev, Belaya Tserkov, Ukraine, UK
OSTROFSKY, Kiev, Belaya Tserkov, Ukraine, UK


labor service - voronezh #hungary

Jake Jacobs
 

I wonder how you know your father died of typhoid fever in Voronezh? I ask=
because my great-uncle died there as well, also in January 1943. I learne=
d >from Yad Vashem that there was a major battle on the Don River near Voron=
ezh in January 1943, and many Jews in the Labor Service died there. Some ar=
e buried in the local cemetery. My great-uncle was not.

Diane Jacobs
Austin, Texas


APOTHEKER-KLAUSNER- AMSTER in Bardejov Slovakia #hungary

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners,


After a pause of nine years I hope that some new data may have been discovered in the meantime by members of this group.


My late father in law David APOTHEKER (1908-1995) was born in Bardejov to Lazar(Elieser) APOTHEKER who was born in Nowy Sacz


in 1860 and to Bina KLAUSNER who was born in 1865 in Bardejov. Bina's parents Loebl KLAUSNER and Eszter AMSTER were both


born in Bardejov. The couple got married in 1895 in Bardejov and all their 9 children were born there.

I wonder whether any of those names names ring a bell to you.

Regards >from Jerusalem

Jacob Rosen


Hungary SIG #Hungary labor service - voronezh #hungary

Jake Jacobs
 

I wonder how you know your father died of typhoid fever in Voronezh? I ask=
because my great-uncle died there as well, also in January 1943. I learne=
d >from Yad Vashem that there was a major battle on the Don River near Voron=
ezh in January 1943, and many Jews in the Labor Service died there. Some ar=
e buried in the local cemetery. My great-uncle was not.

Diane Jacobs
Austin, Texas


Hungary SIG #Hungary APOTHEKER-KLAUSNER- AMSTER in Bardejov Slovakia #hungary

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners,


After a pause of nine years I hope that some new data may have been discovered in the meantime by members of this group.


My late father in law David APOTHEKER (1908-1995) was born in Bardejov to Lazar(Elieser) APOTHEKER who was born in Nowy Sacz


in 1860 and to Bina KLAUSNER who was born in 1865 in Bardejov. Bina's parents Loebl KLAUSNER and Eszter AMSTER were both


born in Bardejov. The couple got married in 1895 in Bardejov and all their 9 children were born there.

I wonder whether any of those names names ring a bell to you.

Regards >from Jerusalem

Jacob Rosen


Re: Nagycigand community #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

NAgycigand merged with Kiscigand in 1923 and is now simply called Cigand. (=
Great Cigand and Small Cigand).
Jews living in the area were recorded by the rabbinate in Kiralyhelmec (now=
: Kralovsky Hlmec) whose records can be found in the Satoraljaujhely branch=
archive of the Borsod-Abauj-Zemplen county archives. However, a transcript=
ed version is available on JewishGen. You should search for any Weinberger =
born in Cigand since Sarolta may have been born with another first name lik=
e Sara, Sari, Sali, Szeren, etc. If you have her parents' names those would=
help, too.



Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/Historian/Private tour guide

Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com
cell: +36-30-546-6950


Mandatory Military Service Pre WWII #hungary

Itzik Katz
 

Dear Siggers,

Thank you all for replying to my inquiry about Pre WWII Mandatory
Military Service.

To summarize the answers I received, there was a mandatory
conscription to the Hungarian Army at the age of 21 for 2 years.

That explains the story I know about my father serving in the
Hungarian army probably >from 1936 until 1938. He served in the cavalry
as a servant to a higher rank officer shoe shining his boots,
polishing the buttons on his uniforms, etc. He didn't like it too much
and since then he developed a strong disdain to anything with military
nature.

He became a Dental Technician after his military service and started
building a life but that was brutally put on hold when he was drafted
to the Forced Labor Battalions in May 1942. He was placed in Ukraine
near Kiev in a place called Seredina-buda under inhumane conditions.

With the retreat of the German forces he was move back to Carpathians,
then to Kassa (Kosice) and in October 1944 arrived in Budapest Ghetto.
He was freed on February 28, 1945 in very poor health.

Thank you very much for your support.

Happy Passover to all of you,

Itzik Katz
Israel


Vilmos FELDMANN place of birth #hungary

pheilbrunn@...
 

Hi,

I wonder whether you can help. The birth record for Vilmos FELDMANN shows h=
is place of birth as Szakacsi, in northern Hungary. However his Viennese To=
dfallsaufnahme, (record of death) shows Kegy as the place of birth. Are the=
se two places reconcilable?

Regards,

Peter Heilbrunn
<snip>
Amersham England


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Nagycigand community #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

NAgycigand merged with Kiscigand in 1923 and is now simply called Cigand. (=
Great Cigand and Small Cigand).
Jews living in the area were recorded by the rabbinate in Kiralyhelmec (now=
: Kralovsky Hlmec) whose records can be found in the Satoraljaujhely branch=
archive of the Borsod-Abauj-Zemplen county archives. However, a transcript=
ed version is available on JewishGen. You should search for any Weinberger =
born in Cigand since Sarolta may have been born with another first name lik=
e Sara, Sari, Sali, Szeren, etc. If you have her parents' names those would=
help, too.



Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/Historian/Private tour guide

Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com
cell: +36-30-546-6950


Hungary SIG #Hungary Mandatory Military Service Pre WWII #hungary

Itzik Katz
 

Dear Siggers,

Thank you all for replying to my inquiry about Pre WWII Mandatory
Military Service.

To summarize the answers I received, there was a mandatory
conscription to the Hungarian Army at the age of 21 for 2 years.

That explains the story I know about my father serving in the
Hungarian army probably >from 1936 until 1938. He served in the cavalry
as a servant to a higher rank officer shoe shining his boots,
polishing the buttons on his uniforms, etc. He didn't like it too much
and since then he developed a strong disdain to anything with military
nature.

He became a Dental Technician after his military service and started
building a life but that was brutally put on hold when he was drafted
to the Forced Labor Battalions in May 1942. He was placed in Ukraine
near Kiev in a place called Seredina-buda under inhumane conditions.

With the retreat of the German forces he was move back to Carpathians,
then to Kassa (Kosice) and in October 1944 arrived in Budapest Ghetto.
He was freed on February 28, 1945 in very poor health.

Thank you very much for your support.

Happy Passover to all of you,

Itzik Katz
Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary Vilmos FELDMANN place of birth #hungary

pheilbrunn@...
 

Hi,

I wonder whether you can help. The birth record for Vilmos FELDMANN shows h=
is place of birth as Szakacsi, in northern Hungary. However his Viennese To=
dfallsaufnahme, (record of death) shows Kegy as the place of birth. Are the=
se two places reconcilable?

Regards,

Peter Heilbrunn
<snip>
Amersham England


APOTHEKER-KLAUSNER-AMSTER in Bardejov, Slovakia #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners,

After a pause of nine years I hope that some new data may have been
discovered in the meantime by members of this group.

My late father-in-law David APOTHEKER (1908-1995) was born in
Bardejov to Lazar (Elieser) APOTHEKER who was born in Nowy Sacz in
1860 and to Bina KLAUSNER who was born in 1865 in Bardejov. Bina's
parents Loebl KLAUSNER and Eszter AMSTER were both born in
Bardejov. The couple got married in 1895 in Bardejov and all their 9
children were born there.

I wonder whether any of those names names ring a bell to you.

Regards >from Jerusalem

Jacob Rosen


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia APOTHEKER-KLAUSNER-AMSTER in Bardejov, Slovakia #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners,

After a pause of nine years I hope that some new data may have been
discovered in the meantime by members of this group.

My late father-in-law David APOTHEKER (1908-1995) was born in
Bardejov to Lazar (Elieser) APOTHEKER who was born in Nowy Sacz in
1860 and to Bina KLAUSNER who was born in 1865 in Bardejov. Bina's
parents Loebl KLAUSNER and Eszter AMSTER were both born in
Bardejov. The couple got married in 1895 in Bardejov and all their 9
children were born there.

I wonder whether any of those names names ring a bell to you.

Regards >from Jerusalem

Jacob Rosen


Update to KehilaLinks site of Kosice, Slovakia #hungary

Madeleine Isenberg
 

To SIGgers with connections to Kosice, Slovakia,

Just wanted to let you know about an update to the "Other" page within
this KehilalInks site
(https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/kosice/Kosice-Other.html#undefphotos).
Peter Absolon received 16 group photographs of children >from Kosice's
Neolog Synagogue Elementary School. It is assumed this were taken in
the 1930s. Unfortunately, these are photos with people who are
unidentified and even the years are not known. It's possible the same
children appear in more than one photo and for a different year.

If anyone has any information or recognizes any of these children,
teachers, or can estimate the year, please do contact me to add that
information.

Madeleine Isenberg
madeleine.isenberg@gmail.com
Beverly Hills, CA

Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLUECKSMAN, STOTTER in various
parts of Galicia, Poland, such as: Nowy Targ, Wachsmund, Lopuszna,
Ochotnica, possibly Krakow, who migrated into Kezmarok or nearby
Straszky/Nagy-Eor/Nehre, both now in Slovakia.
GOLDSTEIN in Abaujszina (Sena), Szkaros, Szikso, and Kosice, Slovakia;
Tolcsva, Hungary; Possibly Timosoara, Romania

--
Madeleine
madeleine.isenberg@gmail.com

Moderator: Please contact Madeleine off-list if you have any information.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Update to KehilaLinks site of Kosice, Slovakia #hungary

Madeleine Isenberg
 

To SIGgers with connections to Kosice, Slovakia,

Just wanted to let you know about an update to the "Other" page within
this KehilalInks site
(https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/kosice/Kosice-Other.html#undefphotos).
Peter Absolon received 16 group photographs of children >from Kosice's
Neolog Synagogue Elementary School. It is assumed this were taken in
the 1930s. Unfortunately, these are photos with people who are
unidentified and even the years are not known. It's possible the same
children appear in more than one photo and for a different year.

If anyone has any information or recognizes any of these children,
teachers, or can estimate the year, please do contact me to add that
information.

Madeleine Isenberg
madeleine.isenberg@gmail.com
Beverly Hills, CA

Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLUECKSMAN, STOTTER in various
parts of Galicia, Poland, such as: Nowy Targ, Wachsmund, Lopuszna,
Ochotnica, possibly Krakow, who migrated into Kezmarok or nearby
Straszky/Nagy-Eor/Nehre, both now in Slovakia.
GOLDSTEIN in Abaujszina (Sena), Szkaros, Szikso, and Kosice, Slovakia;
Tolcsva, Hungary; Possibly Timosoara, Romania

--
Madeleine
madeleine.isenberg@gmail.com

Moderator: Please contact Madeleine off-list if you have any information.


Re: Mandatory Military Service #hungary

tom
 

i have also heard the terms "tifusz" and "flektifusz" often. i'm not sure whether that's the same disease as typhoid or whether it's typhus, which apparently is a different disease with a confusingly similar name. any doctors reading the list might like to elaborate on this.

but what is for sure is that many, many of the jewish forced labourers died >from it. my own father got sick, but recovered, after losing a large portion of his body weight, even though he was lean and muscular to begin with. and if the disease wasn't bad enough, there were incidents like the dorosic massacre, where a barn was set up as a field hospital and then burned down with the sick inside it. my father was there, but still strong enough to march on.

there's an old adage that in war, more people die >from disease than >from fighting.


....... tom klein, toronto

veronica29md@earthlink.net wrote:

My father was born in 1908 in Hungary. In 1941-2 he was drafted into the Forced Labor service, digging trenches for the Hungarian Second Army. In January, 1943, he died near Voronezh (Russia) of typhoid fever, I think. He was a chemist and a pianist.


Re: h-sig digest: March 31, 2018 #hungary

mefarkas@...
 

Draga Itzik,

My father served as a soldier in Hungary >from 1932 to 1933, and again
in 1938 when Hungary invaded Slovakia. He was born July 1910.
He too was taken into forced labor (Labor Detachment 109/36) from
July 1941 to September 1944 when he escaped and got back to Budapest.
My mother, who was Catholic, hid him and that's how he survived.

I have several photos >from his army service as well as his forced labor.

My guess is that yes, military service was mandatory.

Mary Farkas
Los Angeles

Subject: Mandatory Military Service
From: katz.itzik@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 11:53:12 +0300
X-Message-Number: 1

Hello and Happy Passover Siggers,

I am wondering if anyone here knows if there was a Mandatory Military
Service in Hungary. At what age were people required to draft and for
how long?

The reason for my question is that I know my father had been drafted
to Military service of several years before WWII broke (he was born
1915). I know that he was released >from service and returned home.

Then, after WWII broke, he was drafted again to Forced Labor
Battalions around 1941.

I am trying to draw the timeline of his life events and I am missing
this piece.

Thank you all for your help,

Itzik Katz
Israel



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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Mandatory Military Service #hungary

tom
 

i have also heard the terms "tifusz" and "flektifusz" often. i'm not sure whether that's the same disease as typhoid or whether it's typhus, which apparently is a different disease with a confusingly similar name. any doctors reading the list might like to elaborate on this.

but what is for sure is that many, many of the jewish forced labourers died >from it. my own father got sick, but recovered, after losing a large portion of his body weight, even though he was lean and muscular to begin with. and if the disease wasn't bad enough, there were incidents like the dorosic massacre, where a barn was set up as a field hospital and then burned down with the sick inside it. my father was there, but still strong enough to march on.

there's an old adage that in war, more people die >from disease than >from fighting.


....... tom klein, toronto

veronica29md@earthlink.net wrote:

My father was born in 1908 in Hungary. In 1941-2 he was drafted into the Forced Labor service, digging trenches for the Hungarian Second Army. In January, 1943, he died near Voronezh (Russia) of typhoid fever, I think. He was a chemist and a pianist.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: March 31, 2018 #hungary

mefarkas@...
 

Draga Itzik,

My father served as a soldier in Hungary >from 1932 to 1933, and again
in 1938 when Hungary invaded Slovakia. He was born July 1910.
He too was taken into forced labor (Labor Detachment 109/36) from
July 1941 to September 1944 when he escaped and got back to Budapest.
My mother, who was Catholic, hid him and that's how he survived.

I have several photos >from his army service as well as his forced labor.

My guess is that yes, military service was mandatory.

Mary Farkas
Los Angeles

Subject: Mandatory Military Service
From: katz.itzik@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 11:53:12 +0300
X-Message-Number: 1

Hello and Happy Passover Siggers,

I am wondering if anyone here knows if there was a Mandatory Military
Service in Hungary. At what age were people required to draft and for
how long?

The reason for my question is that I know my father had been drafted
to Military service of several years before WWII broke (he was born
1915). I know that he was released >from service and returned home.

Then, after WWII broke, he was drafted again to Forced Labor
Battalions around 1941.

I am trying to draw the timeline of his life events and I am missing
this piece.

Thank you all for your help,

Itzik Katz
Israel



---

END OF DIGEST

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don't miss the first IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
to be held in Eastern Europe and our 38th overall! The Warsaw, Poland
Hilton Hotel & Conference Center will be the base for lectures, panels,
networking, and historic excursions and a unique Resource Village!

Mark your calendar for 5-10 August 2018 and visit iajgs2018.org for details.
Early registration is now open through 28 April 2018.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This SIG (h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Visit our website at http://www.jewishgen.org/hungary/
and check out the fabulous Hungary Database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/
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