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Gostynin, Poland Jewish Cemetery - monument unveiling #general

Julian H. Preisler
 

Dear List Members:

For those with family roots in Gostynin, Poland, a memorial monument
on the site of the Jewish cemetery will be unveiled today, Friday,
September 20th. My Goldman and Michalski ancestors were >from this
town which is located about 60 miles north northwest of Warsaw. A
local group of historians, teachers, artists and local history
enthusiasts has organized together to research the diverse groups
that once populated the town of Gostynin. The group has successfully
placed several historical markers in the city, many noting the local
Jewish population in prewar times. They have worked with the Warsaw
Jewish Historical Institute to erect the monument in the cemetery.
Along with the memorial marker, there is a large collection of
gravestone fragments that were recently uncovered as part of a nearby
forest path. This group of dedicated volunteers is truly wonderful
and their resolve to commemorate the Jews of Gostynin is to be
commended.

With wishes to all for a Happy New Year 5779.

Julian H. Preisler
Falling Waters, West Virginia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gostynin, Poland Jewish Cemetery - monument unveiling #general

Julian H. Preisler
 

Dear List Members:

For those with family roots in Gostynin, Poland, a memorial monument
on the site of the Jewish cemetery will be unveiled today, Friday,
September 20th. My Goldman and Michalski ancestors were >from this
town which is located about 60 miles north northwest of Warsaw. A
local group of historians, teachers, artists and local history
enthusiasts has organized together to research the diverse groups
that once populated the town of Gostynin. The group has successfully
placed several historical markers in the city, many noting the local
Jewish population in prewar times. They have worked with the Warsaw
Jewish Historical Institute to erect the monument in the cemetery.
Along with the memorial marker, there is a large collection of
gravestone fragments that were recently uncovered as part of a nearby
forest path. This group of dedicated volunteers is truly wonderful
and their resolve to commemorate the Jews of Gostynin is to be
commended.

With wishes to all for a Happy New Year 5779.

Julian H. Preisler
Falling Waters, West Virginia


Board for Certification of Genealogists and Legacy Family Tree Webinars- Free Day of Lectures-October 19 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The Board for Certification of Genealogists (BCG) and Legacy Family Tree
Webinars, part of the MyHeritage Family of companies, are offering a free
day of lectures on October 19.

All times listed are in (US) Mountain Time. Use time convertor to look up
your local time: http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc

Genealogists:
Jeanne Larzalere Bloom, 9:00AM Past Conflict Repatriation: The Role of
Genealogists and Methodology in Fulfilling Our Nation's Promise
Elissa Scalise Powell, 10:30 AM Deeper Analysis: Techniques for Successful
Problem Solving
Rebecca Whitman Koford, 1:00PM John Jacob Kramer: Case Study of Mistaken
Identity among Revolutionary War Soldiers
Thomas W. Jones, 2:15 PM Using Indirect and Negative Evidence to Prove
Unrecorded Events; and
Judy G. Russell 3:30 PM The Discriminating Genealogist: Telling Good
Evidence >from Bad

The lectures will be held at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City
Friday, 19 October 2018 between 9 AM and 4:30 PM mountain U.S. time. The
lectures are free and open to the public, and sponsored by the Board for
Certification of Genealogists. The five lectures will be broadcast online
(free registration is required) Go to: https://familytreewebinars.com/bcg
to sign up for the courses individually or
https://familytreewebinars.com/upcoming-webinars-multireg.php to sign up for
multiple lectures. All live Legacy Webinars are free and their recordings
are free to watch for the first seven (7) days. After then on can pay for an
individual access or a year subscription. For more information on each
lecture go to https://familytreewebinars.com/bcg and click on "register
free" button. You will be able to read about the lecture before you
register.

For more information read Judy Russell's blog post:
https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/09/19/thanks-to-the-fhl/

I have no affiliation with My Heritage, Legacy Family Tree or the BCG and am
posting this solely for the information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Board for Certification of Genealogists and Legacy Family Tree Webinars- Free Day of Lectures-October 19 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The Board for Certification of Genealogists (BCG) and Legacy Family Tree
Webinars, part of the MyHeritage Family of companies, are offering a free
day of lectures on October 19.

All times listed are in (US) Mountain Time. Use time convertor to look up
your local time: http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc

Genealogists:
Jeanne Larzalere Bloom, 9:00AM Past Conflict Repatriation: The Role of
Genealogists and Methodology in Fulfilling Our Nation's Promise
Elissa Scalise Powell, 10:30 AM Deeper Analysis: Techniques for Successful
Problem Solving
Rebecca Whitman Koford, 1:00PM John Jacob Kramer: Case Study of Mistaken
Identity among Revolutionary War Soldiers
Thomas W. Jones, 2:15 PM Using Indirect and Negative Evidence to Prove
Unrecorded Events; and
Judy G. Russell 3:30 PM The Discriminating Genealogist: Telling Good
Evidence >from Bad

The lectures will be held at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City
Friday, 19 October 2018 between 9 AM and 4:30 PM mountain U.S. time. The
lectures are free and open to the public, and sponsored by the Board for
Certification of Genealogists. The five lectures will be broadcast online
(free registration is required) Go to: https://familytreewebinars.com/bcg
to sign up for the courses individually or
https://familytreewebinars.com/upcoming-webinars-multireg.php to sign up for
multiple lectures. All live Legacy Webinars are free and their recordings
are free to watch for the first seven (7) days. After then on can pay for an
individual access or a year subscription. For more information on each
lecture go to https://familytreewebinars.com/bcg and click on "register
free" button. You will be able to read about the lecture before you
register.

For more information read Judy Russell's blog post:
https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/09/19/thanks-to-the-fhl/

I have no affiliation with My Heritage, Legacy Family Tree or the BCG and am
posting this solely for the information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Righteous Among The Nations - Burden of proof #general

Robert Fraser
 

Dear Friends -

Thanks for the responses to my question, as below.

The consensus of opinion is that, since all the people saved
and those who did the saving, have died and can't testify,
preparing an application to Yad Vashem is a non-starter.

So the stories will have to remain untold. Pity!

Shana Tova

Robert Fraser
Perth, Western Australia

***
There are at least two known cases of rescue by RATN in my
family that I know of - both in Vienna. What I'm seeking is
information >from readers who have successfully (or not) made
application to the Yad VaShem for recognition as RATN.
Snip>>>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Righteous Among The Nations - Burden of proof #general

Robert Fraser
 

Dear Friends -

Thanks for the responses to my question, as below.

The consensus of opinion is that, since all the people saved
and those who did the saving, have died and can't testify,
preparing an application to Yad Vashem is a non-starter.

So the stories will have to remain untold. Pity!

Shana Tova

Robert Fraser
Perth, Western Australia

***
There are at least two known cases of rescue by RATN in my
family that I know of - both in Vienna. What I'm seeking is
information >from readers who have successfully (or not) made
application to the Yad VaShem for recognition as RATN.
Snip>>>


Akiba EGER birthday #rabbinic

Traude Triebel
 

The Austrian Jewish Museum in Eisenstadt made a new hot announcement!

Sensational discovery! The Torah wimpel for the famous Rabbi Akiba Eger -
we can ultimately prove that he was born on 1 Cheshvan 522 = 29 October
1761 (and *not* as most sources claim on 8 November).
His brother Samuel was not born in 1755, but - as we reed in the Pinkas
Mila (circumcision register, Mohel book) - in 1762!

http://www.ojm.at/blog/2018/09/20/akiba-eger-der-geburtstag/

Traude Triebel
A-Wr.Neustadt


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Akiba EGER birthday #rabbinic

Traude Triebel
 

The Austrian Jewish Museum in Eisenstadt made a new hot announcement!

Sensational discovery! The Torah wimpel for the famous Rabbi Akiba Eger -
we can ultimately prove that he was born on 1 Cheshvan 522 = 29 October
1761 (and *not* as most sources claim on 8 November).
His brother Samuel was not born in 1755, but - as we reed in the Pinkas
Mila (circumcision register, Mohel book) - in 1762!

http://www.ojm.at/blog/2018/09/20/akiba-eger-der-geburtstag/

Traude Triebel
A-Wr.Neustadt


DNA Testing/Autosomal/How far back can we trace? #dna

sbloom@...
 

In replying to Raina and the original poster on this issue, perhaps
my own anecdotal case would be of help.

The most distant cousinhood I can trace (without gaps) is that between
my daughter and her 9th cousin. What I actually confirmed with DNA is
the connection between myself and my Dad with this 9th cousin's
grandfather (so my father's 7th cousin). They are all descendants of
one Jacob Gancarski of Radoszyce, Poland, probably born around 1740. So,
in this case, DNA (along with the well documented trees of both parties)
helped us both trace back about 280 years (maybe 300, since we don't
know birth date of Jacob).

With some gaps, there is some evidence mounting that DNA has shown
evidence of my claimed descent >from Jehiel Heilperin ("Seder Hadorot"
and Chief Rabbi of Minsk). He was born in 1660, so in that case, if it
proves solid, we may have traced back 360 years. Some even think we show
evidence of linking to prior generations of Heilperins (this is all
part of Andi Ziegelman's FTDNA study of Halpern and associated families).

But, reliably, for "typical" trees derived >from East European records,
I'd bet 300 years is about the limit.

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia

-----Original Message-----

Your DNA ethnicity estimate will change based on improved data >from
growing sample populations as Ancestry/FTdna/23andMe etc update their
ethnicity calculators. Your ethnicity breakdown does not tell you when
your ancestors lived, only that you have similar DNA to other people
whose ancestors lived in certain areas. In terms of finding DNA matches,
the autosomal DNA tests are most useful within 6 generations. So if a
generation is about 30 years that would be about 180 years. However it
is still possible to make connections back 10 generations if you get
lucky and have a well documented tree (and your match also has a well
documented tree!)

As far as going back beyond a few hundred years and paper records, you
can take the mitochondria DNA test (MtDNA) or the YDNA test to get DNA
matches that reach back before paper records. You might be able to pick
out patterns of migration based on your matches individual family
histories. The haplogroups you will be assigned with those tests have
histories that show when (1000s of years ago) and where the original
mutation in that type of DNA occurred. The autosomal test only tests to
within a few hundred years as you said. I believe Family Tree DNA and
23andMe can do the mt-DNA and Y-DNA tests.

Raina Accardi
Saugerties, NY, USA


DNA Research #DNA DNA Testing/Autosomal/How far back can we trace? #dna

sbloom@...
 

In replying to Raina and the original poster on this issue, perhaps
my own anecdotal case would be of help.

The most distant cousinhood I can trace (without gaps) is that between
my daughter and her 9th cousin. What I actually confirmed with DNA is
the connection between myself and my Dad with this 9th cousin's
grandfather (so my father's 7th cousin). They are all descendants of
one Jacob Gancarski of Radoszyce, Poland, probably born around 1740. So,
in this case, DNA (along with the well documented trees of both parties)
helped us both trace back about 280 years (maybe 300, since we don't
know birth date of Jacob).

With some gaps, there is some evidence mounting that DNA has shown
evidence of my claimed descent >from Jehiel Heilperin ("Seder Hadorot"
and Chief Rabbi of Minsk). He was born in 1660, so in that case, if it
proves solid, we may have traced back 360 years. Some even think we show
evidence of linking to prior generations of Heilperins (this is all
part of Andi Ziegelman's FTDNA study of Halpern and associated families).

But, reliably, for "typical" trees derived >from East European records,
I'd bet 300 years is about the limit.

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia

-----Original Message-----

Your DNA ethnicity estimate will change based on improved data >from
growing sample populations as Ancestry/FTdna/23andMe etc update their
ethnicity calculators. Your ethnicity breakdown does not tell you when
your ancestors lived, only that you have similar DNA to other people
whose ancestors lived in certain areas. In terms of finding DNA matches,
the autosomal DNA tests are most useful within 6 generations. So if a
generation is about 30 years that would be about 180 years. However it
is still possible to make connections back 10 generations if you get
lucky and have a well documented tree (and your match also has a well
documented tree!)

As far as going back beyond a few hundred years and paper records, you
can take the mitochondria DNA test (MtDNA) or the YDNA test to get DNA
matches that reach back before paper records. You might be able to pick
out patterns of migration based on your matches individual family
histories. The haplogroups you will be assigned with those tests have
histories that show when (1000s of years ago) and where the original
mutation in that type of DNA occurred. The autosomal test only tests to
within a few hundred years as you said. I believe Family Tree DNA and
23andMe can do the mt-DNA and Y-DNA tests.

Raina Accardi
Saugerties, NY, USA


Re: Irregular appearances on UK censuses #general

Barbara Zimmer
 

Annick MIzel could not find the POLKOVITCH family in the 1901 census. I
found them by using only given names and the date of birth for their
daughter Annie. Their surname was listed as PORKORITZ

Name: Annie Porkoritz
[Annie Porkovitz]
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Jacob Porkoritz
Mother: Sophia Porkoritz
Birth Place: Hackney, London, England

I also found other records for the family by using Wild Cards for the
surname (example P*K*V* ) including a school registration for Annie
in 1908, and voter registration records for Annie and her siblings in
1930.

Barbara Zimmer
Norfolk VA

I have a dilemma. My great Aunt Sophia Polkovitch nee Savolski arrived
in Uk >from Lithuania on or around 1897/8 supposedly with her sister
Hannah Goldstein. She married Jacob in 1899. In 1900 her daughter
Annie born . Why wasnt she on the 1901 census. Next seen 1911 on
census then nothing until 1939. Now I know where she was living and
who she was living with but no sign of her or her husband. How did
this happen? Only three records of her and her husband?

Annick Mizel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Irregular appearances on UK censuses #general

Barbara Zimmer
 

Annick MIzel could not find the POLKOVITCH family in the 1901 census. I
found them by using only given names and the date of birth for their
daughter Annie. Their surname was listed as PORKORITZ

Name: Annie Porkoritz
[Annie Porkovitz]
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Jacob Porkoritz
Mother: Sophia Porkoritz
Birth Place: Hackney, London, England

I also found other records for the family by using Wild Cards for the
surname (example P*K*V* ) including a school registration for Annie
in 1908, and voter registration records for Annie and her siblings in
1930.

Barbara Zimmer
Norfolk VA

I have a dilemma. My great Aunt Sophia Polkovitch nee Savolski arrived
in Uk >from Lithuania on or around 1897/8 supposedly with her sister
Hannah Goldstein. She married Jacob in 1899. In 1900 her daughter
Annie born . Why wasnt she on the 1901 census. Next seen 1911 on
census then nothing until 1939. Now I know where she was living and
who she was living with but no sign of her or her husband. How did
this happen? Only three records of her and her husband?

Annick Mizel


USHMM Database: Cracow #general

Lande
 

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum's Survivors and Victims Database
(HSV) now has available the Jewish council in Cracow's list of Jews who were
displaced >from their homes. This collection may be accessed at
https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?Sourceid=46204
This collection is linked to the source documents. If you submit a request
form you will receive the document in your email instantly.

Peter Lande
Washington, D.C.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen USHMM Database: Cracow #general

Lande
 

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum's Survivors and Victims Database
(HSV) now has available the Jewish council in Cracow's list of Jews who were
displaced >from their homes. This collection may be accessed at
https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?Sourceid=46204
This collection is linked to the source documents. If you submit a request
form you will receive the document in your email instantly.

Peter Lande
Washington, D.C.


STOLEK #general

pauline rosenberg
 

Hi,

I am looking for family with the surname STOLEK in Israel or the US.
They lived in Nowy Korczyn in Poland (near Krakow).
My grandmother's maiden name was Stolek.

Thanks,

Pauline Rosenberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen STOLEK #general

pauline rosenberg
 

Hi,

I am looking for family with the surname STOLEK in Israel or the US.
They lived in Nowy Korczyn in Poland (near Krakow).
My grandmother's maiden name was Stolek.

Thanks,

Pauline Rosenberg


Re: FISCHER - STERN #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

Hi John,

The answer is no. Another good source is the indexed civil vital records av=
ailable via MACSE. Let me show you what you can find there if you are a lit=
tle more open. It is a great wealth of information and can prove or disprov=
e things for you.

I have checked the MACSE database for you and Janka was married at least th=
ree times. Married Armin Eisler in 1906, who died in 1907 and Mr Jonas Ster=
n only in 1922 when she was already a widower.
So her son, Bela Somogyi must have been the son of the second husband whose=
identity we have no info about. Maybe the third husband was the brother of=
the second one.

Marriage 1 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6FZS-917?i=3D21=
5&cc=3D1452460
Death of husband 1. https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12344-=
240729-20
Marriage 2.: did not find it. (Reason?: the district they married still may=
not have been indexed)
Marriage 3 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRPS-Y9T?i=3D15=
7&cc=3D1452460
Death of Husband 3 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6L87-N9=
C?i=3D35&cc=3D1452460
Janka was still alive when husband 3 died in 1938. And his death was report=
ed by a Bela Stern, who must be identical to the one you mentioned in your=
message.

So the answer is, NO, the Janka Stern you have there (d 1913) is NOT your g=
g-aunt.

Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/Historian/Private tour guide

Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com
cell: +36-30-546-6950

You can see our Data Processing Information by clicking here http://www.hun=
garianroots.com/en/impress/ If you do not wish your data to be processed by=
us please send us a message to be removed. By not sending a message you ag=
ree to the above agreement.

This is our World and we only have One. Please consider not printing this e=
-mail thus saving trees and lives. If you need to print use the double-side=
d option.

-----Original Message-----
From: H-SIG [mailto:h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 3:28 PM
To: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: [h-sig] FISCHER - STERN

I am searching for information on a great-great aunt, born Janka FISCHER on=
25 Sep 1878. I have no location except by word of mouth. My grandmother al=
ways said her family was >from Hungary, possibly Budapest. However, I have i=
nformation that her father, Eleazar FISCHER and his first cousin, Jonas FIS=
CHER, were born in Czarny Dunajec which, according to Jewishgen.org Town Fi=
nder, is (now) in Poland but was in the Austrian Empire:
Czarny Dunajec
Nowy Targ
Galicia
Austrian Empire

Janka married Jonas STERN, and the only information I have on him is that h=
e was >from Csernadurnajci, Poland, a place I cannot locate anywhere.

In any event, Janka and Jonas had a son, Bela Somogyi STERN, who was born 1=
7 Sep 1912 in Budapest and died 14 Nov 2002 in Flushing, Queens, NY.

A search of Ancestry for Janka shows me this information >from Find-a-Grave:=


Janka Stern

BIRTH1877
DEATH1913 (aged 35=E2=80=9336)
BURIAL
Kozma Street Jewish Cemetery
Kereszt=C3=BArid=C5=B1l=C5=91, K=C5=91b=C3=A1nya, Budapest, Hungary Add to =
Map PLOTSection 37, Row 14, Grave 39 MEMORIAL ID168213852 =C2=B7 View Sourc=
e

Could this be my gg-aunt? Where else can I turn for information?

John Anderson,
Orlando, FL

Moderator: Please continue this discussion off-list unless information will be of
general interest.


Re: New oroklet website #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

1. use the old version as it is much better to navigate through.
2. The login name and password of the old site are still valid and can be
used on the new version.


Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/Historian/Private tour guide

Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com
cell: +36-30-546-6950


Re: new oroklet website #hungary

tom
 

my apologies for posting an incorrect url (although it didn't seem to deter very
many of you) - i was interrupted before testing it, as i should have done. the
corrected link is <http://www.oroklet.hu/>.

....... tom klein, toronto

tomk@ecologicaltech.com wrote:

the oroklet website, <http://www.ororklet.hu/>, has been given a facelift.

[snip!]


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: FISCHER - STERN #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

Hi John,

The answer is no. Another good source is the indexed civil vital records av=
ailable via MACSE. Let me show you what you can find there if you are a lit=
tle more open. It is a great wealth of information and can prove or disprov=
e things for you.

I have checked the MACSE database for you and Janka was married at least th=
ree times. Married Armin Eisler in 1906, who died in 1907 and Mr Jonas Ster=
n only in 1922 when she was already a widower.
So her son, Bela Somogyi must have been the son of the second husband whose=
identity we have no info about. Maybe the third husband was the brother of=
the second one.

Marriage 1 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6FZS-917?i=3D21=
5&cc=3D1452460
Death of husband 1. https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12344-=
240729-20
Marriage 2.: did not find it. (Reason?: the district they married still may=
not have been indexed)
Marriage 3 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRPS-Y9T?i=3D15=
7&cc=3D1452460
Death of Husband 3 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6L87-N9=
C?i=3D35&cc=3D1452460
Janka was still alive when husband 3 died in 1938. And his death was report=
ed by a Bela Stern, who must be identical to the one you mentioned in your=
message.

So the answer is, NO, the Janka Stern you have there (d 1913) is NOT your g=
g-aunt.

Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/Historian/Private tour guide

Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com
cell: +36-30-546-6950

You can see our Data Processing Information by clicking here http://www.hun=
garianroots.com/en/impress/ If you do not wish your data to be processed by=
us please send us a message to be removed. By not sending a message you ag=
ree to the above agreement.

This is our World and we only have One. Please consider not printing this e=
-mail thus saving trees and lives. If you need to print use the double-side=
d option.

-----Original Message-----
From: H-SIG [mailto:h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 3:28 PM
To: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: [h-sig] FISCHER - STERN

I am searching for information on a great-great aunt, born Janka FISCHER on=
25 Sep 1878. I have no location except by word of mouth. My grandmother al=
ways said her family was >from Hungary, possibly Budapest. However, I have i=
nformation that her father, Eleazar FISCHER and his first cousin, Jonas FIS=
CHER, were born in Czarny Dunajec which, according to Jewishgen.org Town Fi=
nder, is (now) in Poland but was in the Austrian Empire:
Czarny Dunajec
Nowy Targ
Galicia
Austrian Empire

Janka married Jonas STERN, and the only information I have on him is that h=
e was >from Csernadurnajci, Poland, a place I cannot locate anywhere.

In any event, Janka and Jonas had a son, Bela Somogyi STERN, who was born 1=
7 Sep 1912 in Budapest and died 14 Nov 2002 in Flushing, Queens, NY.

A search of Ancestry for Janka shows me this information >from Find-a-Grave:=


Janka Stern

BIRTH1877
DEATH1913 (aged 35=E2=80=9336)
BURIAL
Kozma Street Jewish Cemetery
Kereszt=C3=BArid=C5=B1l=C5=91, K=C5=91b=C3=A1nya, Budapest, Hungary Add to =
Map PLOTSection 37, Row 14, Grave 39 MEMORIAL ID168213852 =C2=B7 View Sourc=
e

Could this be my gg-aunt? Where else can I turn for information?

John Anderson,
Orlando, FL

Moderator: Please continue this discussion off-list unless information will be of
general interest.

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