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use of Spam Blockers not such a great idea #unitedkingdom

Carol W. Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

We are all plagued with SPAM, but the best solution is **still** the delete
key, and not spam blocker programs.

JewishGenners who hope for that missing connection to be made as the result
of a message posted to a mailing list run the risk of not getting that
message.

JGFF users who list their e-mail as their contact information run the risk
of not getting a message >from the kind of connection we all hope and wait
for (and for which the JGFF if famous!).

Folks who posted messages in the past, cannot be contacted if somebody
finds you in the archived messages for the JewishGen Discussion Group or
the SIGs.

Is this what you really want to have happen?

By using a spamblocker you are placing the onus on someone trying to reach
you to validate themselves or, worse yet to follow through on whatever
system your program has put in place. You stand to benefit >from messages
coming to you >from people you do not know. Do you want them to have to
jump through hoops to get to you?

Before you sign on for a spam blocking program, it's best to think it
through and consider the points mentioned above.

Carol W. Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Special Projects


use of Spam Blockers not such a great idea #lodz #poland

Carol W. Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

We are all plagued with SPAM, but the best solution is **still** the delete
key, and not spam blocker programs.

JewishGenners who hope for that missing connection to be made as the result
of a message posted to a mailing list run the risk of not getting that
message.

JGFF users who list their e-mail as their contact information run the risk
of not getting a message >from the kind of connection we all hope and wait
for (and for which the JGFF if famous!).

Folks who posted messages in the past, cannot be contacted if somebody
finds you in the archived messages for the JewishGen Discussion Group or
the SIGs.

Is this what you really want to have happen?

By using a spamblocker you are placing the onus on someone trying to reach
you to validate themselves or, worse yet to follow through on whatever
system your program has put in place. You stand to benefit >from messages
coming to you >from people you do not know. Do you want them to have to
jump through hoops to get to you?

Before you sign on for a spam blocking program, it's best to think it
through and consider the points mentioned above.

Carol W. Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Special Projects


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom use of Spam Blockers not such a great idea #unitedkingdom

Carol W. Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

We are all plagued with SPAM, but the best solution is **still** the delete
key, and not spam blocker programs.

JewishGenners who hope for that missing connection to be made as the result
of a message posted to a mailing list run the risk of not getting that
message.

JGFF users who list their e-mail as their contact information run the risk
of not getting a message >from the kind of connection we all hope and wait
for (and for which the JGFF if famous!).

Folks who posted messages in the past, cannot be contacted if somebody
finds you in the archived messages for the JewishGen Discussion Group or
the SIGs.

Is this what you really want to have happen?

By using a spamblocker you are placing the onus on someone trying to reach
you to validate themselves or, worse yet to follow through on whatever
system your program has put in place. You stand to benefit >from messages
coming to you >from people you do not know. Do you want them to have to
jump through hoops to get to you?

Before you sign on for a spam blocking program, it's best to think it
through and consider the points mentioned above.

Carol W. Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Special Projects


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland use of Spam Blockers not such a great idea #lodz #poland

Carol W. Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

We are all plagued with SPAM, but the best solution is **still** the delete
key, and not spam blocker programs.

JewishGenners who hope for that missing connection to be made as the result
of a message posted to a mailing list run the risk of not getting that
message.

JGFF users who list their e-mail as their contact information run the risk
of not getting a message >from the kind of connection we all hope and wait
for (and for which the JGFF if famous!).

Folks who posted messages in the past, cannot be contacted if somebody
finds you in the archived messages for the JewishGen Discussion Group or
the SIGs.

Is this what you really want to have happen?

By using a spamblocker you are placing the onus on someone trying to reach
you to validate themselves or, worse yet to follow through on whatever
system your program has put in place. You stand to benefit >from messages
coming to you >from people you do not know. Do you want them to have to
jump through hoops to get to you?

Before you sign on for a spam blocking program, it's best to think it
through and consider the points mentioned above.

Carol W. Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Special Projects


Re: Royal Warrant to Sell Goods? #unitedkingdom

Alice Josephs
 

Yes there is such a thing as a Royal Warrants. But they are *not*
permits to sell goods. They are contracts to supply the Royal Household.
Advertising that someone has a Royal Warrant has always been used as,
what we in our times would call, a marketing and advertising tool. Just
as today a manufacturer will say, "We supply our services to a named
well-known business", so the sign of a Royal Warrant showed and shows
that they had and have the contract to the Royal household.

The Royal Warrant is accorded to an individual rather than a business,
so you may come a cropper if your ancestor worked for someone who was
awarded a Royal Warrant by one of the Royal family allowed to award a
Warrant.

For example, Mohammed Al Fayed himself rather than Harrods held Warrants
from various members of the Royal Family (ie supplied their households
with goods) until the rift arose with the family and he rejected the
Warrants. The Royal Warrant Holders Association has records, so you can
try there. http://www.royalwarrant.org

Alice Josephs
UK
See my family tree at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Royal Warrant to Sell Goods? #unitedkingdom

Alice Josephs
 

Yes there is such a thing as a Royal Warrants. But they are *not*
permits to sell goods. They are contracts to supply the Royal Household.
Advertising that someone has a Royal Warrant has always been used as,
what we in our times would call, a marketing and advertising tool. Just
as today a manufacturer will say, "We supply our services to a named
well-known business", so the sign of a Royal Warrant showed and shows
that they had and have the contract to the Royal household.

The Royal Warrant is accorded to an individual rather than a business,
so you may come a cropper if your ancestor worked for someone who was
awarded a Royal Warrant by one of the Royal family allowed to award a
Warrant.

For example, Mohammed Al Fayed himself rather than Harrods held Warrants
from various members of the Royal Family (ie supplied their households
with goods) until the rift arose with the family and he rejected the
Warrants. The Royal Warrant Holders Association has records, so you can
try there. http://www.royalwarrant.org

Alice Josephs
UK
See my family tree at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/


Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando (JGSGO) - March Meeting - Tuesday, March 9, 2004 #general

Doris & Don Frank <dofrank@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando (JGSGO) will hold their
next meeting on:

Tuesday, March 9, 2004 Meeting at 7:00 PM to be held in the Senior Lounge of
the JCC, Maitland.

The Program will be a presentation entitled "You Found WHO in the Family
Tree?" by
Rhonda R. McClure, author of The Complete Idiot's Guide to Online Genealogy,
The Genealogist’s Computer Companion, and Finding Your Famous and Infamous
Ancestors.

The meeting is open to those interested in genealogy. Info: 407-323-9728.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando (JGSGO) - March Meeting - Tuesday, March 9, 2004 #general

Doris & Don Frank <dofrank@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando (JGSGO) will hold their
next meeting on:

Tuesday, March 9, 2004 Meeting at 7:00 PM to be held in the Senior Lounge of
the JCC, Maitland.

The Program will be a presentation entitled "You Found WHO in the Family
Tree?" by
Rhonda R. McClure, author of The Complete Idiot's Guide to Online Genealogy,
The Genealogist’s Computer Companion, and Finding Your Famous and Infamous
Ancestors.

The meeting is open to those interested in genealogy. Info: 407-323-9728.


Seek Emma and Henrich FERNICH born. in Klotten, RhinePfalz ca. 1880 #germany

Carlota Widman Dublon <cwidman@...>
 

Hello,
I have found in the Ellis Island records that a Emma FERNICH who born
in the town of Klotten or Clotten, Rheinland Pfaltz, Germany
(erroneusly stated there as "Glotten") arrived to the United States on
December 3, 1910.

The town of Klotten is located in the Rheinland-Pfalz and forms part
of the Kreis Cochem-Zell.

Other information furnished in the passenger´s record is that she was aged
25 (so, she was born abt. 1885) and that she was unmarried.

The ship on which she arrived was the "Lapland" and the port of departure
Antwerp, Belgium.

According to the date of birth and the town >from which she came from,
probably Emma should have been my great grandmother´s niece.
(My great grandmother Barbara FERNICH, and her twin brother Salomon,
born on April 25, 1838 in Klotten, parents Lazarus FERNICH and Magadalena
KOCH. Barbara Fernich was married to Bernard David DUBLON >from Wittlich).

Regarding Henrich FERNICH the information I have is that he was born abt.
1823 in Klotten, his parents were Samuel FERNICH and Theresia ISRAEL. He
died in Schweich on January 1909. It seems that he was married to
Jettchen FERBER >from Oberemmel (Rheinland-Pfaltz). Thank you very much.

Carlota Widman Montevideo-Uruguay cwidman@adinet.com.uy


German SIG #Germany Seek Emma and Henrich FERNICH born. in Klotten, RhinePfalz ca. 1880 #germany

Carlota Widman Dublon <cwidman@...>
 

Hello,
I have found in the Ellis Island records that a Emma FERNICH who born
in the town of Klotten or Clotten, Rheinland Pfaltz, Germany
(erroneusly stated there as "Glotten") arrived to the United States on
December 3, 1910.

The town of Klotten is located in the Rheinland-Pfalz and forms part
of the Kreis Cochem-Zell.

Other information furnished in the passenger´s record is that she was aged
25 (so, she was born abt. 1885) and that she was unmarried.

The ship on which she arrived was the "Lapland" and the port of departure
Antwerp, Belgium.

According to the date of birth and the town >from which she came from,
probably Emma should have been my great grandmother´s niece.
(My great grandmother Barbara FERNICH, and her twin brother Salomon,
born on April 25, 1838 in Klotten, parents Lazarus FERNICH and Magadalena
KOCH. Barbara Fernich was married to Bernard David DUBLON >from Wittlich).

Regarding Henrich FERNICH the information I have is that he was born abt.
1823 in Klotten, his parents were Samuel FERNICH and Theresia ISRAEL. He
died in Schweich on January 1909. It seems that he was married to
Jettchen FERBER >from Oberemmel (Rheinland-Pfaltz). Thank you very much.

Carlota Widman Montevideo-Uruguay cwidman@adinet.com.uy


Burial Great Synagogue #unitedkingdom

B Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Evelyn,

Steve Morse's site has a convertible Jewish calendar:

www.stevemorse.org

Hope this helps.

Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Burial Great Synagogue #unitedkingdom

B Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Evelyn,

Steve Morse's site has a convertible Jewish calendar:

www.stevemorse.org

Hope this helps.

Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com


Re: Can name changes occur because of double transliteration? #general

Sally M. Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Transliteration means to try to make the sound of one language into letters
of another language. In any case, there would not be sequential
transliterations >from Hebrew to Russian to English by the family, but from
Hebrew to Russian in Russia and >from Hebrew to English for US documents.

In this case, you think Chaim Ber might have been a transliteration of Nahum
Ber-that isn't likely as Chaim would not have an N in it. I would think it
more likely that Ber was sick, either as a child or an adult-and Chaim was
added to his name in hopes he would live. He might have had the double name
Nahum Ber but was called Chaim Ber.

Or it might be two differnt people. You will have to consider all
possibilities.

Sally Bruckheimer
Harrison, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Can name changes occur because of double transliteration? #general

Sally M. Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Transliteration means to try to make the sound of one language into letters
of another language. In any case, there would not be sequential
transliterations >from Hebrew to Russian to English by the family, but from
Hebrew to Russian in Russia and >from Hebrew to English for US documents.

In this case, you think Chaim Ber might have been a transliteration of Nahum
Ber-that isn't likely as Chaim would not have an N in it. I would think it
more likely that Ber was sick, either as a child or an adult-and Chaim was
added to his name in hopes he would live. He might have had the double name
Nahum Ber but was called Chaim Ber.

Or it might be two differnt people. You will have to consider all
possibilities.

Sally Bruckheimer
Harrison, NY


Reading Odessa birth records #general

Israel P <isai8v10@...>
 

I have received four Odessa birth records (for RECHISTER), which are now at
http://www.pikholz.org/KCOdessa.html

I have the gist of the contents, but would be pleased to know if there is any
other information on them which I don't have in translation.

Thank you.

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Reading Odessa birth records #general

Israel P <isai8v10@...>
 

I have received four Odessa birth records (for RECHISTER), which are now at
http://www.pikholz.org/KCOdessa.html

I have the gist of the contents, but would be pleased to know if there is any
other information on them which I don't have in translation.

Thank you.

Israel Pickholtz


1871 UK Census - London/Middlesex area - Name Index #unitedkingdom

Laurence Harris <Laurence@...>
 

Ancestry are gradually releasing the 1871 England and Wales Census images
with a *name index* to be available on the internet. They have now
released about five English counties including the London.

This is part of Ancestry's United Kingdom collection of records available at
www.ancestry.co.uk . There is a subscription charge that must be paid
quarterly or annually. I believe that Ancestry are currently offering a 14
day Free Trial Subscription that includes access to these records (but like
most free trials you must cancel the subscription in a timely and correct
manner should you not wish to extend beyond the 14 day free limit).

There are 1,732 persons indexed under the surname LEVY in London. I have
found just Ascher LEVY (who is connected to my wife's family of LEVY
Passover Cake bakers). Unfortunately he was indexed as Archer LEVY so he
took me a little while to find! Even with name indexing you sometimes have
to be creative if you cannot locate your family at the first attempt.

I trust that the moderator of this list will allow this announcement as a
one time mention of a newly released major resource, even though it is a
commercial resource in which I have no interest except as a very excited
Anglo-Jewish genealogist.

Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom 1871 UK Census - London/Middlesex area - Name Index #unitedkingdom

Laurence Harris <Laurence@...>
 

Ancestry are gradually releasing the 1871 England and Wales Census images
with a *name index* to be available on the internet. They have now
released about five English counties including the London.

This is part of Ancestry's United Kingdom collection of records available at
www.ancestry.co.uk . There is a subscription charge that must be paid
quarterly or annually. I believe that Ancestry are currently offering a 14
day Free Trial Subscription that includes access to these records (but like
most free trials you must cancel the subscription in a timely and correct
manner should you not wish to extend beyond the 14 day free limit).

There are 1,732 persons indexed under the surname LEVY in London. I have
found just Ascher LEVY (who is connected to my wife's family of LEVY
Passover Cake bakers). Unfortunately he was indexed as Archer LEVY so he
took me a little while to find! Even with name indexing you sometimes have
to be creative if you cannot locate your family at the first attempt.

I trust that the moderator of this list will allow this announcement as a
one time mention of a newly released major resource, even though it is a
commercial resource in which I have no interest except as a very excited
Anglo-Jewish genealogist.

Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex


Re: ALPEROWITCH from Vidtz #general

Robert Fineberg <finey@...>
 

My mother's maiden name was HELPER. However, I have a feeling that that was
not the name in Minsk, >from where they came. Ellis Island has them listed as
ALPERN, but the name could have been one of many, such as ALPEROVICH. My
grandfather was Chaim and my grandmother was Channah.
Bob Fineberg

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raanan Isseroff"
A friend of mine whose mother is an Alpert (of South Africa) is
researching her family.
..SNIP..
Any help would be appreciated.


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: ALPEROWITCH from Vidtz #latvia

Robert Fineberg <finey@...>
 

My mother's maiden name was HELPER. However, I have a feeling that that was
not the name in Minsk, >from where they came. Ellis Island has them listed as
ALPERN, but the name could have been one of many, such as ALPEROVICH. My
grandfather was Chaim and my grandmother was Channah.
Bob Fineberg

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raanan Isseroff"
A friend of mine whose mother is an Alpert (of South Africa) is
researching her family.
..SNIP..
Any help would be appreciated.