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Re: Mother's name on stone #general

Israel P
 

Keep in mind that before surnames became such an integral part of our lives,
the father's name was a means of identification. The mother's name would not
necessarily have added to that. So leaving out the mother's name was not an
insult to the female role, just not a necessary part of the ID. (And an extra
expense to boot!)

Now that the surname has taken on the significance of an ID, it makes sense
that we acknowledge both parents as long as we acknowledge either.

Israel Pickholtz

Quoting JewishGen Discussion Group digest <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>:

Last year I had a gravestone put up for my older brother. In Hebrew it gave
his name and both our parents’ names. Agreed, it didn’t used to be
customary but times are changing.
Yehuda Berman
Efrat, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Mother's name on stone #general

Israel P
 

Keep in mind that before surnames became such an integral part of our lives,
the father's name was a means of identification. The mother's name would not
necessarily have added to that. So leaving out the mother's name was not an
insult to the female role, just not a necessary part of the ID. (And an extra
expense to boot!)

Now that the surname has taken on the significance of an ID, it makes sense
that we acknowledge both parents as long as we acknowledge either.

Israel Pickholtz

Quoting JewishGen Discussion Group digest <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>:

Last year I had a gravestone put up for my older brother. In Hebrew it gave
his name and both our parents’ names. Agreed, it didn’t used to be
customary but times are changing.
Yehuda Berman
Efrat, Israel


Yizkor for Zaglembie Martyrs #general

Ada Holtzman
 

I received the following invitation:

~*~
Yom HaShoah Memorial Service
Yizkor for Zaglembie Martyrs
Marking 60 Years since the End of WWII

The ceremony will take place at Yad Hazikaron in Modiin, Israel on Thursday,
May 5th, 2005 16:00
* Addresses:
Mr. Itzhak Herzog, Minister of Construction & Housing
Mr. Moshe Spector - Mayor of Modiin
Mr. Abraham Green - Chairman of Zaglembie World Organization

* Memorial service:
Cantor Arie Brown - former IDF Chief Cantor

*In the program:
The Police Orchestra conducted by Menashe Levran
Singing: Jenny Eisenstein-Oksenhandler, Bendin - Toronto
reading: Members of the second & third generation

*Transportation >from Tel Aviv, railway station Arlozorov, near El Al
terminal 14:30


Yizkor Assembly near Treblinka Monument, Givataiim Israel #general

Ada Holtzman
 

You are kindly invited to participate in the annual Remembrance Assembly
("Azkara") near the Treblinka monument at Nachlat Icchak cemetery in
Givataiin Israel, on Yom Hashoah, Holocaust Day - Nisan 26, 5765 (5.5.2005)
at 16:00.
R' Isar Frenkel of Tel Aviv, Mr. Benjamin Yaari chairman of the Tomaszow
Mazowiecki Organization, Mr. Roni Markowicz, of the successor generation
will address the public. Cantor of the prayers will be Mr. Abraham Oberman,
master of the ceremony: Mr, Shaul Majzlish.
"Every Person Has a Name"
from 15:30 the names of Holocaust martyrs will be read by members of the
youth movement "Hatzofim", "Bnei Akiva" and "Ezra" with patricipation of the
public.

List of the communities destroyed in Treblinka is available, among other
sites, at my web site:
http://www.zchor.org/treblink.htm

Shalom,

Ada Holtzman
www.zchor.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yizkor for Zaglembie Martyrs #general

Ada Holtzman
 

I received the following invitation:

~*~
Yom HaShoah Memorial Service
Yizkor for Zaglembie Martyrs
Marking 60 Years since the End of WWII

The ceremony will take place at Yad Hazikaron in Modiin, Israel on Thursday,
May 5th, 2005 16:00
* Addresses:
Mr. Itzhak Herzog, Minister of Construction & Housing
Mr. Moshe Spector - Mayor of Modiin
Mr. Abraham Green - Chairman of Zaglembie World Organization

* Memorial service:
Cantor Arie Brown - former IDF Chief Cantor

*In the program:
The Police Orchestra conducted by Menashe Levran
Singing: Jenny Eisenstein-Oksenhandler, Bendin - Toronto
reading: Members of the second & third generation

*Transportation >from Tel Aviv, railway station Arlozorov, near El Al
terminal 14:30


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yizkor Assembly near Treblinka Monument, Givataiim Israel #general

Ada Holtzman
 

You are kindly invited to participate in the annual Remembrance Assembly
("Azkara") near the Treblinka monument at Nachlat Icchak cemetery in
Givataiin Israel, on Yom Hashoah, Holocaust Day - Nisan 26, 5765 (5.5.2005)
at 16:00.
R' Isar Frenkel of Tel Aviv, Mr. Benjamin Yaari chairman of the Tomaszow
Mazowiecki Organization, Mr. Roni Markowicz, of the successor generation
will address the public. Cantor of the prayers will be Mr. Abraham Oberman,
master of the ceremony: Mr, Shaul Majzlish.
"Every Person Has a Name"
from 15:30 the names of Holocaust martyrs will be read by members of the
youth movement "Hatzofim", "Bnei Akiva" and "Ezra" with patricipation of the
public.

List of the communities destroyed in Treblinka is available, among other
sites, at my web site:
http://www.zchor.org/treblink.htm

Shalom,

Ada Holtzman
www.zchor.org


Paktu Krow #poland

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

Fellow genners,

In an 1827 marriage record >from Siennica, both the groom's family and
the bride's family are described as earning a living >from "Paktu
Krow." The groom's family is said to be "we wsi Wola Sufczynska
zamieszkalych z Paktu Krow utrzymuianjch," and the father of the bride
is also "z Paktu Krow utrzymuiancego." He and his family resided nearby,
in Lasomin.

Does anyone know what "Paktu Krow" might mean? Could it have been the
name of an enterprise? A social program?

Siennica, Wola Sufczynska, and Lasomin are about 40 km ESE of Warszawa.

I will very much appreciate any pointers you can give me.

Jake Goldstein
Boston, USA


JRI Poland #Poland Paktu Krow #poland

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

Fellow genners,

In an 1827 marriage record >from Siennica, both the groom's family and
the bride's family are described as earning a living >from "Paktu
Krow." The groom's family is said to be "we wsi Wola Sufczynska
zamieszkalych z Paktu Krow utrzymuianjch," and the father of the bride
is also "z Paktu Krow utrzymuiancego." He and his family resided nearby,
in Lasomin.

Does anyone know what "Paktu Krow" might mean? Could it have been the
name of an enterprise? A social program?

Siennica, Wola Sufczynska, and Lasomin are about 40 km ESE of Warszawa.

I will very much appreciate any pointers you can give me.

Jake Goldstein
Boston, USA


DUDOCK who were they and where from #poland

By _OMaR_
 

For several years now, I have been trying to trace my
great grand parents. Supposedly they came >from the
town (shtetl?) of Chechanowtze (Chechanowietz,
Chechanovtze) in Russian-Poland, about 1867, astride
the twin provinces of Grodno and Lomze, by the Narev
river.

I have never been able to find a town of that name and
neither have I ever located their name ( DUDOCK)
anywhere in Poland. Nor does it sound Polish. The only
place I have ever seen it was in Holland, but I've
found no connection. I also cannot find them here in
the US and am not sure if they arrived with their
family or if the cildren arrived without them.
Has anyone ever heard of that name or the town?
There are some DUDoCKS ( a few) in the US but they
don't seem to be connected to me either.
Thanks for any help anyone can give me.
Judith Truly
Dayton, OH

MODERATOR'S NOTE: If you search the JRI-Poland database
-- go to www.jri-poland.org and click on "Search Database"
at the top of the page -- for DUDOCK using the Daitch-
Mokotoff soundex system, you will find index listings for
DUDAK and DUDEK >from Bialystok and Lomza, towns not far

from Ciechanowiec.


JRI Poland #Poland DUDOCK who were they and where from #poland

By _OMaR_
 

For several years now, I have been trying to trace my
great grand parents. Supposedly they came >from the
town (shtetl?) of Chechanowtze (Chechanowietz,
Chechanovtze) in Russian-Poland, about 1867, astride
the twin provinces of Grodno and Lomze, by the Narev
river.

I have never been able to find a town of that name and
neither have I ever located their name ( DUDOCK)
anywhere in Poland. Nor does it sound Polish. The only
place I have ever seen it was in Holland, but I've
found no connection. I also cannot find them here in
the US and am not sure if they arrived with their
family or if the cildren arrived without them.
Has anyone ever heard of that name or the town?
There are some DUDoCKS ( a few) in the US but they
don't seem to be connected to me either.
Thanks for any help anyone can give me.
Judith Truly
Dayton, OH

MODERATOR'S NOTE: If you search the JRI-Poland database
-- go to www.jri-poland.org and click on "Search Database"
at the top of the page -- for DUDOCK using the Daitch-
Mokotoff soundex system, you will find index listings for
DUDAK and DUDEK >from Bialystok and Lomza, towns not far

from Ciechanowiec.


New free Polish surname resource #unitedkingdom

Alice Josephs
 

A new free resource which sounds as if it will be extremely useful once
it gets off the ground.

Professional genealogist Ceil JENSEN is setting up a a surname finder
aid at the website http://mipolonia.net/

A sample page of the surname finder is at
http://mipolonia.net/surname_finding_aid.htm

Ceil is asking anyone researching Polish families to submit the
original surname, the "Aliases, Adulterations and Anglicizations"
(including just simple spelling changes), place of origin and time of
emigration for inclusion on the page. Ceil is not including email
addresses because of spamming concerns.

Ceil's email address is available on the homepage of her website
(scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on Ceil's name)

Alice Josephs
UK JABLUSZKO ROZENBERG Ciechanow DON GOLDMACHER GURMAN Pultusk,
Poland. STERN (STARR) Heppenheim HERZ Kochendorf MARKUS Otterstadt,
Hainchen, Roedelheim GRUEN GRUENEWALD Roedelheim HOCHSCHILD Gross
Rohrheim MAYERFELD Biebesheim, Germany
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom New free Polish surname resource #unitedkingdom

Alice Josephs
 

A new free resource which sounds as if it will be extremely useful once
it gets off the ground.

Professional genealogist Ceil JENSEN is setting up a a surname finder
aid at the website http://mipolonia.net/

A sample page of the surname finder is at
http://mipolonia.net/surname_finding_aid.htm

Ceil is asking anyone researching Polish families to submit the
original surname, the "Aliases, Adulterations and Anglicizations"
(including just simple spelling changes), place of origin and time of
emigration for inclusion on the page. Ceil is not including email
addresses because of spamming concerns.

Ceil's email address is available on the homepage of her website
(scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on Ceil's name)

Alice Josephs
UK JABLUSZKO ROZENBERG Ciechanow DON GOLDMACHER GURMAN Pultusk,
Poland. STERN (STARR) Heppenheim HERZ Kochendorf MARKUS Otterstadt,
Hainchen, Roedelheim GRUEN GRUENEWALD Roedelheim HOCHSCHILD Gross
Rohrheim MAYERFELD Biebesheim, Germany
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/


CLAFF research #unitedkingdom

Eric Smith
 

Would anyone have an e-mail or current address of researcher #72274
She is researching KLAFF >from Siauliai in Lithuania and has not updated her
JGFF since 28th July 2002


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom CLAFF research #unitedkingdom

Eric Smith
 

Would anyone have an e-mail or current address of researcher #72274
She is researching KLAFF >from Siauliai in Lithuania and has not updated her
JGFF since 28th July 2002


possible "nickname" #belarus

Carol W. Skydell <cwskydell@...>
 

Could the name Icko found on the Yad Vashem database be a nickname or a
familiar name for Yitzchak?.

Carol Skydell
Laguna Woods


Belarus SIG #Belarus possible "nickname" #belarus

Carol W. Skydell <cwskydell@...>
 

Could the name Icko found on the Yad Vashem database be a nickname or a
familiar name for Yitzchak?.

Carol Skydell
Laguna Woods


Wall Street Journal Article #dna

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

List members may be interested in an article that appeared yesterday
on the first page of The Wall Street Journal under the header "Family
Business." The article, which discusses the burgeoning business of
DNA testing, may be freely accessed at their website during the next
few days. Here is a short shortcut http://tinyurl.com/c2ogq

Jake Goldstein
Boston, USA


DNA Research #DNA Wall Street Journal Article #dna

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

List members may be interested in an article that appeared yesterday
on the first page of The Wall Street Journal under the header "Family
Business." The article, which discusses the burgeoning business of
DNA testing, may be freely accessed at their website during the next
few days. Here is a short shortcut http://tinyurl.com/c2ogq

Jake Goldstein
Boston, USA


Calling all families with Polish surnames #general

Alice Josephs
 

Genealogist Ceil JENSEN is setting up a freely-accessibly Polish
surname changes webpage on http://mipolonia.net

A sample webpage for the surname changes is at
http://mipolonia.net/surname_finding_aid.htm

Ceil asks anybody who has families who either changed surname spelling
or made a more radical name change to submit the original name, the
permutations and/or radical change of name, ("Aliases, Adulterations
and Anglicizatons"), place of origin and date of emigration for
inclusion on the page. The email address is available on the homepage
of the website (scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on
Ceil's name). Ceil is not including email addresses in the surname
finder because of spamming concerns.

This sounds like a potentially truly excellent resource.

Alice Josephs
UK JABLUSZKO ROZENBERG Ciechanow DON GOLDMACHER GURMAN Pultusk,
Poland. STERN (STARR) Heppenheim HERZ Kochendorf MARKUS Otterstadt,
Hainchen, Roedelheim GRUEN GRUENEWALD Roedelheim HOCHSCHILD Gross
Rohrheim MAYERFELD Biebesheim, Germany
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Calling all families with Polish surnames #general

Alice Josephs
 

Genealogist Ceil JENSEN is setting up a freely-accessibly Polish
surname changes webpage on http://mipolonia.net

A sample webpage for the surname changes is at
http://mipolonia.net/surname_finding_aid.htm

Ceil asks anybody who has families who either changed surname spelling
or made a more radical name change to submit the original name, the
permutations and/or radical change of name, ("Aliases, Adulterations
and Anglicizatons"), place of origin and date of emigration for
inclusion on the page. The email address is available on the homepage
of the website (scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on
Ceil's name). Ceil is not including email addresses in the surname
finder because of spamming concerns.

This sounds like a potentially truly excellent resource.

Alice Josephs
UK JABLUSZKO ROZENBERG Ciechanow DON GOLDMACHER GURMAN Pultusk,
Poland. STERN (STARR) Heppenheim HERZ Kochendorf MARKUS Otterstadt,
Hainchen, Roedelheim GRUEN GRUENEWALD Roedelheim HOCHSCHILD Gross
Rohrheim MAYERFELD Biebesheim, Germany
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/