Date   

E-mail Problems #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Dear Genners,

My IPS has been upgrading its servers (to fight spam) for a week or so. The work
has caused some problems in receiving emails. I understand that many people who
have sent messages to me have had the messages rejected.
As I do not know when these problems will be finally solved -- although my IPS
hopes it will be soon --Genners may contact me at:
schelly@allrelative.net.

Best wishes,

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
JFRA Israel, president
dardasht@barak-online.net (temporary problems)
schelly@allrelative.net


Jewish Family Reunion made Possible Through Home Movies #general

ELIAS SAVADA
 

Steve Davidson, a friend and fellow film archivist (and Director of the Florida
Moving Image Archive in Miami), has a very interesting story about a Jewish family
in Southern Florida reunited by a stranger's discovery of a trove of family
items, including home movies, in their garage.

It's these types of unexpected situations, through the kindness of strangers, that
makes researching, and reuniting, your family so worthwhile.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/lifestyle/sfl-lihistoryjun24,0,6862249.story

Elias Savada
Bethesda MD
esavada@mac.com


Re: EIDB -- LUPOLANSKI -- Help Needed #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Abuwasta Abuwasta" wrote

Dear Genners,
Need help >from an experienced Genner who is familiar with the hand writing of
the Ellis Island clercks. Dobe Lupolanski arrived on Dec 4th,1913. She is listed
on line 14 on pages 960 and 961. I do not manage to decipher her last permanent
residence in Russia(p.960) nor the place of her birth (last column on p. 961).
Please respond privately.
Thanks
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem
Jacob,

Your request regarding private response is appreciated but I believe that any
discussions concerning general interest as e.g. names of the localities should be
made available to all Genners and kept consequently kept in the discussion group
archives for the further references.

As to your request it appears that Dobe Lupolanski was resident of "Olgonov" which
most probably corresponds to Olganow near Busko in the Kielce region of Poland.
Olganow was obscure place with only 3 Jewish residents

There are other candidates for"Olgonov" that are located in Ukraine and Belarus
(Olgopol or Olgomel) but you did not volunteer to provide details as to the region
where >from Dobe has originated.

Analyzing Dobe's birthplace reveals that she was born in "Holowansk" which is
modern Holovanivsk (ex Russian Golovanevsk) situated south of town Uman in
southern Ukraine.

Thus, establishing Dobe birthplace in Holovanivsk we can now return to "Olgonov"
and through the more or less an intelligent deductions figure out that "Olgonov"
should read Olgopol, located some 40 miles WSW >from Holovanivsk.

I could be of course incorrect in my speculalations. Lupolanski surname is spelled
Polish way not "Lupolansky" which may indicate that Dobe was after all resident of
Russian Poland. But on the other hand, Ellis Island scribe could be of the Polish
origin and perhaps he wrote down names >from the Russian passport his own way. Who
knows.


Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen E-mail Problems #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Dear Genners,

My IPS has been upgrading its servers (to fight spam) for a week or so. The work
has caused some problems in receiving emails. I understand that many people who
have sent messages to me have had the messages rejected.
As I do not know when these problems will be finally solved -- although my IPS
hopes it will be soon --Genners may contact me at:
schelly@allrelative.net.

Best wishes,

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
JFRA Israel, president
dardasht@barak-online.net (temporary problems)
schelly@allrelative.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Family Reunion made Possible Through Home Movies #general

ELIAS SAVADA
 

Steve Davidson, a friend and fellow film archivist (and Director of the Florida
Moving Image Archive in Miami), has a very interesting story about a Jewish family
in Southern Florida reunited by a stranger's discovery of a trove of family
items, including home movies, in their garage.

It's these types of unexpected situations, through the kindness of strangers, that
makes researching, and reuniting, your family so worthwhile.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/lifestyle/sfl-lihistoryjun24,0,6862249.story

Elias Savada
Bethesda MD
esavada@mac.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: EIDB -- LUPOLANSKI -- Help Needed #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Abuwasta Abuwasta" wrote

Dear Genners,
Need help >from an experienced Genner who is familiar with the hand writing of
the Ellis Island clercks. Dobe Lupolanski arrived on Dec 4th,1913. She is listed
on line 14 on pages 960 and 961. I do not manage to decipher her last permanent
residence in Russia(p.960) nor the place of her birth (last column on p. 961).
Please respond privately.
Thanks
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem
Jacob,

Your request regarding private response is appreciated but I believe that any
discussions concerning general interest as e.g. names of the localities should be
made available to all Genners and kept consequently kept in the discussion group
archives for the further references.

As to your request it appears that Dobe Lupolanski was resident of "Olgonov" which
most probably corresponds to Olganow near Busko in the Kielce region of Poland.
Olganow was obscure place with only 3 Jewish residents

There are other candidates for"Olgonov" that are located in Ukraine and Belarus
(Olgopol or Olgomel) but you did not volunteer to provide details as to the region
where >from Dobe has originated.

Analyzing Dobe's birthplace reveals that she was born in "Holowansk" which is
modern Holovanivsk (ex Russian Golovanevsk) situated south of town Uman in
southern Ukraine.

Thus, establishing Dobe birthplace in Holovanivsk we can now return to "Olgonov"
and through the more or less an intelligent deductions figure out that "Olgonov"
should read Olgopol, located some 40 miles WSW >from Holovanivsk.

I could be of course incorrect in my speculalations. Lupolanski surname is spelled
Polish way not "Lupolansky" which may indicate that Dobe was after all resident of
Russian Poland. But on the other hand, Ellis Island scribe could be of the Polish
origin and perhaps he wrote down names >from the Russian passport his own way. Who
knows.


Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


San Diego Jewish Genealogical Society #general

enalibof@...
 

San Diego Jewish Genealogical Society
Next meeting: Sunday, July 11, 1:00 P.M.
Lawrence Family Jewish Community Center 2nd Floor - Sr. Activitity Room
4126 Executive Drive, La Jolla
Program Topic: Naturalization Records as Resource
Presenter: Ellen Naliboff, M.A., volunteer instructor at San Diego Family History
Center.

Non-members $3.00, rebated if you join SDJGS at the first meeting you attend.
Ellen Naliboff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen San Diego Jewish Genealogical Society #general

enalibof@...
 

San Diego Jewish Genealogical Society
Next meeting: Sunday, July 11, 1:00 P.M.
Lawrence Family Jewish Community Center 2nd Floor - Sr. Activitity Room
4126 Executive Drive, La Jolla
Program Topic: Naturalization Records as Resource
Presenter: Ellen Naliboff, M.A., volunteer instructor at San Diego Family History
Center.

Non-members $3.00, rebated if you join SDJGS at the first meeting you attend.
Ellen Naliboff


Re: Zalman or Wolf? #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

first of all, you don't indicate date or place for any of this - sometimes it's helpful to consider local customs.

second, at the risk of being corrected by those more knowledgeable, i think it should be "leib" (>from the german for "lion", and rhymes with "tribe") and not "lieb" (>from the german for "love" and sounds like "leave"). you can find a whole long discussion in the main jewishgen list archives about animal names such as "arye", "wolf", "leib", "ber", etc. and their combinations.

one possibility, if they are NOT the same person, is that some of our ancestors retained the jewish custom of calling sons by their father's name ("ben leib"), but just abbreviated it so that it looks, to us, as if it were a middle name. in this case, it would mean that wolf and zalman were both the sons of leib. what favours this possibility is that the usual "double name" would be arye leib, both of which mean "lion", rather than wolf leib, although nothing is impossible. likewise, although zalman (a variation of solomon) is not usually associated with leib, there's no rule that a parent can't give a child two unrelated names - it happens a lot.

the correct answer would be to find additional documentation, such as birth records, to settle the question.

regards,


....... tom klein, toronto

Bckay1@aol.com wrote:


I am trying to find the name of my ggrandfather Kaufman. On his
daughter's death certificate it is listed as Wolf Lieb. Yet on a
cemetary record that may be him it is listed as Zalman Lieb Kaufman.
Could this be one and the same person? Thanks. Carol Karp


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Zalman or Wolf? #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

first of all, you don't indicate date or place for any of this - sometimes it's helpful to consider local customs.

second, at the risk of being corrected by those more knowledgeable, i think it should be "leib" (>from the german for "lion", and rhymes with "tribe") and not "lieb" (>from the german for "love" and sounds like "leave"). you can find a whole long discussion in the main jewishgen list archives about animal names such as "arye", "wolf", "leib", "ber", etc. and their combinations.

one possibility, if they are NOT the same person, is that some of our ancestors retained the jewish custom of calling sons by their father's name ("ben leib"), but just abbreviated it so that it looks, to us, as if it were a middle name. in this case, it would mean that wolf and zalman were both the sons of leib. what favours this possibility is that the usual "double name" would be arye leib, both of which mean "lion", rather than wolf leib, although nothing is impossible. likewise, although zalman (a variation of solomon) is not usually associated with leib, there's no rule that a parent can't give a child two unrelated names - it happens a lot.

the correct answer would be to find additional documentation, such as birth records, to settle the question.

regards,


....... tom klein, toronto

Bckay1@aol.com wrote:


I am trying to find the name of my ggrandfather Kaufman. On his
daughter's death certificate it is listed as Wolf Lieb. Yet on a
cemetary record that may be him it is listed as Zalman Lieb Kaufman.
Could this be one and the same person? Thanks. Carol Karp


Re: * Putting on my Sh. Holmes cap (was re: New name of Wahrmann utca?) #hungary

GilaMiriam Chait <gilamiriamchait@...>
 

I know Kresz Geza utca in the 13th district, where I
went to school for two years till we left Hungary in
1956. It was known as Kresz Geza utca back then, but
may have had a different name before the end of the
war.

Gila Miriam Chait
Manchester, England

--- Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@uol.com.br> wrote: > If
the moderator allows me to answer Susanna's
question in public, here are some interesting
information.

First al all, if you are looking for ANY
information, use the Internet resources, mainly
Google. There is hardly a word or subject that you
won't find there.

For example, searching the words "Wahrmann utca" and
only Hungarian sites I found the page (in
Hungarian)
http://www.bparchiv.hu/magyar/kiadvany/bpn/37/naplo.html,
which informs that the street in question was at the
corner of the "Tatra utca".

Then I discovered a very good Budapest map search
site:
http://www.webmap.hu/bp/

On that map I learned that still today there are 6
Tatra streets. They are in the 2nd, 4th, 13th, 18th,
20th and 22nd districts (kerulet).

I also checked the Kresz Geza utca, which is in the
13th district. So maybe there is a relation between
Kresz street and Wahrmann street.

I also learned that Wahrmann Mór was a famous rabbi
and lived in the Wahrmann-palota at Andrassy ut 23,
in the 6th district.

Thus Susanna, if you have further information on the
Wahrmann utca, you may now discover which street
today corresponds to the one you are looking for. At
least the clues are clearer and given above :-)

good hunt
Tom

At 01:00 -0500 22.06.2004, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: New name of Wahrmann utca?
From: Susanna Vendel <svendel@bostreammail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 08:19:00 +0200
X-Message-Number: 4

Does anybody know what is the name today of
Wahrmann utca >from Budapest (1944)?

Is it Kresz Geza utca or am I mistaken?

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm

--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil
Moderator: Please contact Gila off-list if you would like more info.


Fo utca in Oradea. #hungary

Susanna Vendel <svendel@...>
 

Sorry for not using plain text!!!

My earlier question was:
What is the new name today of Fo" utca in Oradea 1944?

Does anybody remembers what was at the number 10? Was it
a building with apartments or only a shop?

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm


Is there any list for people in Yellow Star Houses-Budapest? #hungary

Susanna Vendel <svendel@...>
 

I wonder if there is a list of the inhabitants of the Yellow Star Houses
in Budapest, 1944 and if the answer is "yes" how it can be accessed?

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: * Putting on my Sh. Holmes cap (was re: New name of Wahrmann utca?) #hungary

GilaMiriam Chait <gilamiriamchait@...>
 

I know Kresz Geza utca in the 13th district, where I
went to school for two years till we left Hungary in
1956. It was known as Kresz Geza utca back then, but
may have had a different name before the end of the
war.

Gila Miriam Chait
Manchester, England

--- Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@uol.com.br> wrote: > If
the moderator allows me to answer Susanna's
question in public, here are some interesting
information.

First al all, if you are looking for ANY
information, use the Internet resources, mainly
Google. There is hardly a word or subject that you
won't find there.

For example, searching the words "Wahrmann utca" and
only Hungarian sites I found the page (in
Hungarian)
http://www.bparchiv.hu/magyar/kiadvany/bpn/37/naplo.html,
which informs that the street in question was at the
corner of the "Tatra utca".

Then I discovered a very good Budapest map search
site:
http://www.webmap.hu/bp/

On that map I learned that still today there are 6
Tatra streets. They are in the 2nd, 4th, 13th, 18th,
20th and 22nd districts (kerulet).

I also checked the Kresz Geza utca, which is in the
13th district. So maybe there is a relation between
Kresz street and Wahrmann street.

I also learned that Wahrmann Mór was a famous rabbi
and lived in the Wahrmann-palota at Andrassy ut 23,
in the 6th district.

Thus Susanna, if you have further information on the
Wahrmann utca, you may now discover which street
today corresponds to the one you are looking for. At
least the clues are clearer and given above :-)

good hunt
Tom

At 01:00 -0500 22.06.2004, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: New name of Wahrmann utca?
From: Susanna Vendel <svendel@bostreammail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 08:19:00 +0200
X-Message-Number: 4

Does anybody know what is the name today of
Wahrmann utca >from Budapest (1944)?

Is it Kresz Geza utca or am I mistaken?

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm

--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil
Moderator: Please contact Gila off-list if you would like more info.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Fo utca in Oradea. #hungary

Susanna Vendel <svendel@...>
 

Sorry for not using plain text!!!

My earlier question was:
What is the new name today of Fo" utca in Oradea 1944?

Does anybody remembers what was at the number 10? Was it
a building with apartments or only a shop?

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm


Hungary SIG #Hungary Is there any list for people in Yellow Star Houses-Budapest? #hungary

Susanna Vendel <svendel@...>
 

I wonder if there is a list of the inhabitants of the Yellow Star Houses
in Budapest, 1944 and if the answer is "yes" how it can be accessed?

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm


Reading the name of a town in Hungary #hungary

Israel P <isai8v10@...>
 

A child was born in Skole (East Galicia) to Bendit Tane and his wife Lea
Steg. Lea is the daughter of Jeruchim and Ruchel Steg, who were called
"the Hungarian branch" of the Steg family.

Can someone identify the town in Hungary, as it appears at
http://www.pikholz.org/Hungarytown.html ? I realize that it may not be
Hungary now - and may not have been then either.

Thank you.

Israel Pickholtz

Moderator: It would be much easier to provide an informative response to your inquiry if you show a larger portion of the page. There are a number of places in Hungary with the suffix "osvar" Difficult to identify the correct one without more info.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Reading the name of a town in Hungary #hungary

Israel P <isai8v10@...>
 

A child was born in Skole (East Galicia) to Bendit Tane and his wife Lea
Steg. Lea is the daughter of Jeruchim and Ruchel Steg, who were called
"the Hungarian branch" of the Steg family.

Can someone identify the town in Hungary, as it appears at
http://www.pikholz.org/Hungarytown.html ? I realize that it may not be
Hungary now - and may not have been then either.

Thank you.

Israel Pickholtz

Moderator: It would be much easier to provide an informative response to your inquiry if you show a larger portion of the page. There are a number of places in Hungary with the suffix "osvar" Difficult to identify the correct one without more info.


View Mate #belarus

yael halamchi <m44w33@...>
 

Please put links to your View Mate-uploads so that
we will be able to find it quickly and help you.

Yours
Yael Halamchi"
<m44w33@hotmail.com>


Belarus SIG #Belarus View Mate #belarus

yael halamchi <m44w33@...>
 

Please put links to your View Mate-uploads so that
we will be able to find it quickly and help you.

Yours
Yael Halamchi"
<m44w33@hotmail.com>