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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Query follow up #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

<< From: "Bettye Heinrich" bettye31@...
To all that read my previous query on the family of Benjamin Green:

I do think that the surname was changed >from its original spelling. I
have tried various ways to locate information on them prior to their arrival
in the USA. I felt that members of this list would know what their Hebrew
names equaled in the English language and that would assist me in finding
further information on them. I am surprised that no one on this list has
an answer to the translation of their Hebrew names. >>

Since you do not have enough information to go on, I am afraid you have
set a difficult task for yourself. LitvakSIG has translated approximately
1.4 million records and the individual's Hebrew names are not included.
Instead, you will find the English equivalent of their Hebrew name. I think
your effort to find records based on their Hebrew names may lead you up blind
alleys.

In your original message on the digest you mentioned finding their names
in a Jewish cemetery or burial society. Their gravestones probably include
their Hebrew names if that is what you are looking for.

In Lithuania, the name GREEN may have been GRIN, based on my experience. I
suggest you go to www.litvaksig.org and search the All Lithuania Database.
It is free. Search "it sounds like" GREEN. and the given name "starts
with" B.

If that does not bring the desired results, I suggest you search for GRIN.

Good luck in your research.

Howard Margol


Query follow up #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

<< From: "Bettye Heinrich" bettye31@...
To all that read my previous query on the family of Benjamin Green:

I do think that the surname was changed >from its original spelling. I
have tried various ways to locate information on them prior to their arrival
in the USA. I felt that members of this list would know what their Hebrew
names equaled in the English language and that would assist me in finding
further information on them. I am surprised that no one on this list has
an answer to the translation of their Hebrew names. >>

Since you do not have enough information to go on, I am afraid you have
set a difficult task for yourself. LitvakSIG has translated approximately
1.4 million records and the individual's Hebrew names are not included.
Instead, you will find the English equivalent of their Hebrew name. I think
your effort to find records based on their Hebrew names may lead you up blind
alleys.

In your original message on the digest you mentioned finding their names
in a Jewish cemetery or burial society. Their gravestones probably include
their Hebrew names if that is what you are looking for.

In Lithuania, the name GREEN may have been GRIN, based on my experience. I
suggest you go to www.litvaksig.org and search the All Lithuania Database.
It is free. Search "it sounds like" GREEN. and the given name "starts
with" B.

If that does not bring the desired results, I suggest you search for GRIN.

Good luck in your research.

Howard Margol


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: Hebrew Names - Ukmerge, Lithuania. #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz
 

I would concur with Howard Margol's suggestion for the inquiry regarding
the Green family >from Ukmerge that the researcher, Bettye Heinrich, join
the Ukmerge District group. The Family and/or Revision Lists might be
particularly helpful.

Further, I would suggest that the researcher look for the family name
of GRIN in the records which was often the way the Anglicized name Green
was spelled in Lithuania. You might even find the family listed that way
in the Ancestry.com records.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


Re: Hebrew Names - Ukmerge, Lithuania. #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz
 

I would concur with Howard Margol's suggestion for the inquiry regarding
the Green family >from Ukmerge that the researcher, Bettye Heinrich, join
the Ukmerge District group. The Family and/or Revision Lists might be
particularly helpful.

Further, I would suggest that the researcher look for the family name
of GRIN in the records which was often the way the Anglicized name Green
was spelled in Lithuania. You might even find the family listed that way
in the Ancestry.com records.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


Orsha #belarus

Mandy Moalem <ymgemoalem@...>
 

Hi,

It seems that no one is having any success in tracing relatives from
Orsha and the surrounding towns through the official channels.

I thought it may help everyone if we all shared what limited
information we each have, and then, hopefully some pieces of the
jigsaw puzzle may fall into place.

My personal connection is through 2 photographs that were taken in
Orsha in around 1910. They are of my great grandparents RACHMIEL
SACK/SHACK and RACHEL BARLIND or DOKMAN and two of their children
BENJAMIN (5) and JOE (1).

It is believed that Rachmiel originally came >from Dubrovna, crossed a
border (?) and met Rachel. He left for the UK in 1912, she stayed but
joined him later.

Please post any information you may have about any family, as there
may be other connections we can make for each other.

Thank you

Mandy Moalem
MODERATOR NOTE: One additional resource is on JewishGen's site:
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/shtetls/shtetl_detail.php?filename=sorshaom


Belarus SIG #Belarus Orsha #belarus

Mandy Moalem <ymgemoalem@...>
 

Hi,

It seems that no one is having any success in tracing relatives from
Orsha and the surrounding towns through the official channels.

I thought it may help everyone if we all shared what limited
information we each have, and then, hopefully some pieces of the
jigsaw puzzle may fall into place.

My personal connection is through 2 photographs that were taken in
Orsha in around 1910. They are of my great grandparents RACHMIEL
SACK/SHACK and RACHEL BARLIND or DOKMAN and two of their children
BENJAMIN (5) and JOE (1).

It is believed that Rachmiel originally came >from Dubrovna, crossed a
border (?) and met Rachel. He left for the UK in 1912, she stayed but
joined him later.

Please post any information you may have about any family, as there
may be other connections we can make for each other.

Thank you

Mandy Moalem
MODERATOR NOTE: One additional resource is on JewishGen's site:
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/shtetls/shtetl_detail.php?filename=sorshaom


Re: Harodok #belarus

Eilat Gordin Levitan
 

I created 2 pages for Horodok (Yiddish) Haradok (Belarussian) Grudek
(Polish) with many pictures, stories of natives who immigrated to
Israel and the US , including information of the Shepsenwol family
(related to Bette Greenfield who asked for any information about the
shtetl), many lists and even a movie shot in Horodok in the 1930s'.
One of the pages was for Jewishgen; ;
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/gorodokbel/horodok.html
I also created a more detailed site for Horodok
http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/horodok/horodok.html

Thanks,
Eilat Gordin Levitan

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Bette Greenfield
<bgreenfield7@...> wrote:

Many thanks to the researchers who sent me information about Haradok.

--


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Harodok #belarus

Eilat Gordin Levitan
 

I created 2 pages for Horodok (Yiddish) Haradok (Belarussian) Grudek
(Polish) with many pictures, stories of natives who immigrated to
Israel and the US , including information of the Shepsenwol family
(related to Bette Greenfield who asked for any information about the
shtetl), many lists and even a movie shot in Horodok in the 1930s'.
One of the pages was for Jewishgen; ;
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/gorodokbel/horodok.html
I also created a more detailed site for Horodok
http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/horodok/horodok.html

Thanks,
Eilat Gordin Levitan

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Bette Greenfield
<bgreenfield7@...> wrote:

Many thanks to the researchers who sent me information about Haradok.

--


Genealogy in London #unitedkingdom

Angie Elfassi
 

Hi,

I will be in London between 28th November - 3rd December. Are there any genealogy activities taking
place during that period?  
If anyone who I am in contact with will be free to meet for a tea, that would be fun.
 I have met with genealogy friends when travelling and it is great fun.

Thanks in advance.

Regards
Angie Elfassi
Israel
MODERATOR'S NOTE: PLEASE REPLY PRIVATELY.

Searching:
RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds
COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds
MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds
KASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Genealogy in London #unitedkingdom

Angie Elfassi
 

Hi,

I will be in London between 28th November - 3rd December. Are there any genealogy activities taking
place during that period?  
If anyone who I am in contact with will be free to meet for a tea, that would be fun.
 I have met with genealogy friends when travelling and it is great fun.

Thanks in advance.

Regards
Angie Elfassi
Israel
MODERATOR'S NOTE: PLEASE REPLY PRIVATELY.

Searching:
RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds
COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds
MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds
KASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds


London Probate Search facility #unitedkingdom

Saul Issroff
 

Yesterday ( 21 October) the search facility for probates moved to
Court 38, Royal Courts of Justice, Strand, London WC2A 2LL. Opening
hours 9-1, 2-4 pm. Fees can be paid at the fees office in the
building.
Note, there is still no on-line service, no level 1 service, copies
ordered for collection will be ready after 48 hours. Postal option
takes up to 14 working days.
Enquiries 07947 6043.
The website http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills
has not been updated to reflect these changes.
Or you can complete form PA1S and send it to:

Postal Searches and Copies Department
Leeds District Probate Registry
York House
York Place
Leeds
LS1 2BA


Saul Issroff
England


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom London Probate Search facility #unitedkingdom

Saul Issroff
 

Yesterday ( 21 October) the search facility for probates moved to
Court 38, Royal Courts of Justice, Strand, London WC2A 2LL. Opening
hours 9-1, 2-4 pm. Fees can be paid at the fees office in the
building.
Note, there is still no on-line service, no level 1 service, copies
ordered for collection will be ready after 48 hours. Postal option
takes up to 14 working days.
Enquiries 07947 6043.
The website http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills
has not been updated to reflect these changes.
Or you can complete form PA1S and send it to:

Postal Searches and Copies Department
Leeds District Probate Registry
York House
York Place
Leeds
LS1 2BA


Saul Issroff
England


Re: Looking for Adelmans in Akkerman #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Dear Carol,

I am sending this message to you and to the whole group,
because it might be useful to other members.

Akkerman had a large Jewish community >from many hundreds of years back.
We, at Bessarabia SIG have some records >from Akkerman, which will be
translated and become available sometime soon. If you can help us with
translation of these records, that can speed up the process. I found
recently that my father's great grandfather was most likely >from Akkerman,
and I hope to find more >from the records of 19c too.

As far as people who settled in Argentina, we have at our Bessarabia SIG
website a section "Emigration >from Bessarabia", and among the articles,
there is one about Jews settled in Argentina: Basavilbaso - Lucienville,
Argentina. A Baron Hirsch Settlement in the Province of Entre Rios.
You may find over there even Vital records, and photos, and family names
emigrated to Argentina >from a number of towns in Bessarabia. I saw at that
site a reference to Akkerman with some lists of people.

Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China

-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Starin [mailto:costarin@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:54 PM
To: Bessarabia SIG
Subject: Looking for Adelmans in Akkerman

I am searching for information about the family of Joseph/Yosef Lev ADELMAN
from Akkerman.................
Daughter Tillie/Toib


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia RE: Looking for Adelmans in Akkerman #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Dear Carol,

I am sending this message to you and to the whole group,
because it might be useful to other members.

Akkerman had a large Jewish community >from many hundreds of years back.
We, at Bessarabia SIG have some records >from Akkerman, which will be
translated and become available sometime soon. If you can help us with
translation of these records, that can speed up the process. I found
recently that my father's great grandfather was most likely >from Akkerman,
and I hope to find more >from the records of 19c too.

As far as people who settled in Argentina, we have at our Bessarabia SIG
website a section "Emigration >from Bessarabia", and among the articles,
there is one about Jews settled in Argentina: Basavilbaso - Lucienville,
Argentina. A Baron Hirsch Settlement in the Province of Entre Rios.
You may find over there even Vital records, and photos, and family names
emigrated to Argentina >from a number of towns in Bessarabia. I saw at that
site a reference to Akkerman with some lists of people.

Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China

-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Starin [mailto:costarin@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:54 PM
To: Bessarabia SIG
Subject: Looking for Adelmans in Akkerman

I am searching for information about the family of Joseph/Yosef Lev ADELMAN
from Akkerman.................
Daughter Tillie/Toib


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen History of a business in Provincetown, Massachusetts, 1930's #general

Joan Rosen <jgrosen98@...>
 

I am interested in determining the owners or managers of a business in
Provincetown, Massachusetts, USA, in 1935. I am trying to reconstruct
a history of a family business. Some kind person who lives on or near
Cape Cod went to Barnstable for me several years ago and obtained all
documents associated with that business.

Among those documents was one that told of a sale by my family to
another business, in 1935. I am interested in finding out who were the
owners/managers of that business (Cape Cod Fisheries.) I have no idea
how to go about finding that information. The documents I have do not
deal with that.

Can anyone help? I am quite willing to trade for genealogical work
here in the Philadelphia area.

Please contact me personally.

Thanks.

Joan Rosen
jgrosen98@...
Elkins Park, Pennsylvania


History of a business in Provincetown, Massachusetts, 1930's #general

Joan Rosen <jgrosen98@...>
 

I am interested in determining the owners or managers of a business in
Provincetown, Massachusetts, USA, in 1935. I am trying to reconstruct
a history of a family business. Some kind person who lives on or near
Cape Cod went to Barnstable for me several years ago and obtained all
documents associated with that business.

Among those documents was one that told of a sale by my family to
another business, in 1935. I am interested in finding out who were the
owners/managers of that business (Cape Cod Fisheries.) I have no idea
how to go about finding that information. The documents I have do not
deal with that.

Can anyone help? I am quite willing to trade for genealogical work
here in the Philadelphia area.

Please contact me personally.

Thanks.

Joan Rosen
jgrosen98@...
Elkins Park, Pennsylvania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MOSLEY Family of St Holburn, London, England #general

Louise Vernon <loubie.vernon@...>
 

Hi,

I have just found out, through a family interview that I have Jewish
ancestry - which was something of a surprise, a pleasant one I might
add.

I have 14 experience in family history but am an absolute beginner in
Jewish research.

The family story says that Rebecca MOSLEY (my ancestor) was disowned
by her family for marrying out of the Jewish faith.

Rebecca MOSLEY married a James NOAKES in 1823 in the church of St
Sepulchre, Holburn, London, Middlesex, she would have been
approximately 18 years old.

If I have the correct family Rebecca's father's name was Charles
MOSLEY and he was gold beater and jeweller in St. Holburn, London.

Charle's father was a Robert MOSLEY who was also involved in the gold
and jewellery trades.

Is there anyone who may be able to help me research this line of
enquiry? I have already searched the databases and contacted a fellow
MOSLEY researcher but as yet I have not received a reply.

Many thanks for reading this email.

Regards,

Louise Vernon
England


MOSLEY Family of St Holburn, London, England #general

Louise Vernon <loubie.vernon@...>
 

Hi,

I have just found out, through a family interview that I have Jewish
ancestry - which was something of a surprise, a pleasant one I might
add.

I have 14 experience in family history but am an absolute beginner in
Jewish research.

The family story says that Rebecca MOSLEY (my ancestor) was disowned
by her family for marrying out of the Jewish faith.

Rebecca MOSLEY married a James NOAKES in 1823 in the church of St
Sepulchre, Holburn, London, Middlesex, she would have been
approximately 18 years old.

If I have the correct family Rebecca's father's name was Charles
MOSLEY and he was gold beater and jeweller in St. Holburn, London.

Charle's father was a Robert MOSLEY who was also involved in the gold
and jewellery trades.

Is there anyone who may be able to help me research this line of
enquiry? I have already searched the databases and contacted a fellow
MOSLEY researcher but as yet I have not received a reply.

Many thanks for reading this email.

Regards,

Louise Vernon
England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Unknown Daughter/Sister--Did She Really Exist? #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

The researcher who posted on this topic, Marilyn Robinson, might try looking
for other obits to see if they also state that there was the extra child.
In addition, it would be helpful to locate the estate record or will, if
available, for both of her great grandparents which might mention the
"missing" daughter/sister.

I have found over the years that oftentimes families may not retain the
memory of or know about children who might have remained in "der heim"
(the old country), have been >from a prior marriage, have physical or mental
defects, have married out, or had "farribles" (arguments) with their family.

One incident, I remember vividly, is that one of my relatives did not know
she was a twin as her twin had died shortly after birth and had not been
mentioned ever again. However, when I found her birth record in Lithuania,
there was the twin and his name recorded. I also remember that I found
that my grandmother was known to be one of four sisters only. Imagine my
surprise when I was chatting with an elderly relative who mentioned a fifth
sister Mary who had passed away in "der heim" as a toddler >from an illness
and had not been mentioned again.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


Re: Unknown Daughter/Sister--Did She Really Exist? #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

The researcher who posted on this topic, Marilyn Robinson, might try looking
for other obits to see if they also state that there was the extra child.
In addition, it would be helpful to locate the estate record or will, if
available, for both of her great grandparents which might mention the
"missing" daughter/sister.

I have found over the years that oftentimes families may not retain the
memory of or know about children who might have remained in "der heim"
(the old country), have been >from a prior marriage, have physical or mental
defects, have married out, or had "farribles" (arguments) with their family.

One incident, I remember vividly, is that one of my relatives did not know
she was a twin as her twin had died shortly after birth and had not been
mentioned ever again. However, when I found her birth record in Lithuania,
there was the twin and his name recorded. I also remember that I found
that my grandmother was known to be one of four sisters only. Imagine my
surprise when I was chatting with an elderly relative who mentioned a fifth
sister Mary who had passed away in "der heim" as a toddler >from an illness
and had not been mentioned again.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...

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