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Odessa #general

David Romney <romney@...>
 

Is there a SIG for Odessa (in the Ukraine)? There used to be such a high
concentration of Jews living there, including my maternal grandfather,
Benjamin Kapelevich.

David Romney

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Odessa #general

David Romney <romney@...>
 

Is there a SIG for Odessa (in the Ukraine)? There used to be such a high
concentration of Jews living there, including my maternal grandfather,
Benjamin Kapelevich.

David Romney

Researching at the Television Museum #general

Vicki Karno <vkarno@...>
 

Armed with an obituary >from the NY Times, I had a list of movies,plays and
television shows
where actor/cousin Morris Carnofsky appeared. The Television Museum in
Beverly Hill (Beverly Dr.
at Little Santa Monica) is a great place to relive childhood moments as
well as research.
Going to the incredible computer library room I pulled up all the
television films available.
After ordering them, I proceeded to viewing cubicle which was mine for a
two hour period.
American Playhouse presents The World of Sholom Alecheim, starring cousin
Morris, Zero Mostel,
Molly Picon, etc. On a hunch, we checked out listings for Louis Armstrong,
who mentions
the Karnofsky family in his biography. Sure enough in 1979 Sachmo special,
during one of
the interview segments Louie talks about Mama Karnofsky teaching him to be
good to people.
He remembered her rocking baby David and all the children singing a lullaby
- which he scat
sang. What a thrill!

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researching at the Television Museum #general

Vicki Karno <vkarno@...>
 

Armed with an obituary >from the NY Times, I had a list of movies,plays and
television shows
where actor/cousin Morris Carnofsky appeared. The Television Museum in
Beverly Hill (Beverly Dr.
at Little Santa Monica) is a great place to relive childhood moments as
well as research.
Going to the incredible computer library room I pulled up all the
television films available.
After ordering them, I proceeded to viewing cubicle which was mine for a
two hour period.
American Playhouse presents The World of Sholom Alecheim, starring cousin
Morris, Zero Mostel,
Molly Picon, etc. On a hunch, we checked out listings for Louis Armstrong,
who mentions
the Karnofsky family in his biography. Sure enough in 1979 Sachmo special,
during one of
the interview segments Louie talks about Mama Karnofsky teaching him to be
good to people.
He remembered her rocking baby David and all the children singing a lullaby
- which he scat
sang. What a thrill!

"Censuses of jews in Ukraine 1765-1791" #general

Yackov & Lena Berkun <berkun@...>
 

I found very interesting book in the library of Yad Vashem Museum:
"Censuses of jewish population in South- West Part in 1765- 1791.
Archives of S-W Russia, part 5", 2 volumes edited, by Kamanin I.,
1910,Kiev.
It contains a lot of statistical information about jewish societies in
these part of Poland, which later (1795) became a part of Russia
(Volynskaya, Podolskaya, Kievskaya gubernia).Thenit was 4 "voevodstvo"
(region): Kiev (including Kiev, Zhitomir, Ovtchutch "povet"-districts),
Volyn (Lutsk, Vladimir, Kremenets povet), Podol (Kamenets,Letitchev,
Tchervonograd povet), Bratslav (Bratsslav and Vinnitsa
povet).
Every jewish society in this huge region is listed, number of jews
living, belonging to "kagal". In each place there are first and
patronimic
names of 3 jews participating those censuses ( usualy between them rabi
and starosta of place).
To bad is that it was before jews used family names.
Yackov Berkun, Jerusalem
searching BERKUN, KAPLEVATSKI, RABINOVITCH >from Zguritsi and Soroki,
Bessarabia
RABINOVITCH rabbi of Konetspol (Parnivka), Balta uezd, Podolia
FELDMAN >from Zguritsi and Shargorod, Podolia
POTIK >from Kapreshti and Kamenka, Bessarabia
BERENSHTEIN >from Kapreshti, Bessarabia
VUGMAN >from Raspopeni, Bessarabia
SHEICHET, GETS >from Mozyr, Minsk gubenia Belorussia
KATSENELSON >from Rechytsa, Minsk gubenia Belorussia
AXELROD >from Korostyshev, Zhitomir oblast
MOSTOVOI >from Radomyshl, Zhitomir oblast
descendants of rabbi Itschak Aizik ben Yoel KATS 1753-1788,
Korets
and of Zvi Hirsh RABINOVITCH, rabbi of Mejiritch, Volin
gubernia

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "Censuses of jews in Ukraine 1765-1791" #general

Yackov & Lena Berkun <berkun@...>
 

I found very interesting book in the library of Yad Vashem Museum:
"Censuses of jewish population in South- West Part in 1765- 1791.
Archives of S-W Russia, part 5", 2 volumes edited, by Kamanin I.,
1910,Kiev.
It contains a lot of statistical information about jewish societies in
these part of Poland, which later (1795) became a part of Russia
(Volynskaya, Podolskaya, Kievskaya gubernia).Thenit was 4 "voevodstvo"
(region): Kiev (including Kiev, Zhitomir, Ovtchutch "povet"-districts),
Volyn (Lutsk, Vladimir, Kremenets povet), Podol (Kamenets,Letitchev,
Tchervonograd povet), Bratslav (Bratsslav and Vinnitsa
povet).
Every jewish society in this huge region is listed, number of jews
living, belonging to "kagal". In each place there are first and
patronimic
names of 3 jews participating those censuses ( usualy between them rabi
and starosta of place).
To bad is that it was before jews used family names.
Yackov Berkun, Jerusalem
searching BERKUN, KAPLEVATSKI, RABINOVITCH >from Zguritsi and Soroki,
Bessarabia
RABINOVITCH rabbi of Konetspol (Parnivka), Balta uezd, Podolia
FELDMAN >from Zguritsi and Shargorod, Podolia
POTIK >from Kapreshti and Kamenka, Bessarabia
BERENSHTEIN >from Kapreshti, Bessarabia
VUGMAN >from Raspopeni, Bessarabia
SHEICHET, GETS >from Mozyr, Minsk gubenia Belorussia
KATSENELSON >from Rechytsa, Minsk gubenia Belorussia
AXELROD >from Korostyshev, Zhitomir oblast
MOSTOVOI >from Radomyshl, Zhitomir oblast
descendants of rabbi Itschak Aizik ben Yoel KATS 1753-1788,
Korets
and of Zvi Hirsh RABINOVITCH, rabbi of Mejiritch, Volin
gubernia

Re: People not found in the cemetery #general

Eric Fanwick <efanwick@...>
 

This problem can be helped with full participation in the International
Jewish Cemetery Project. Phase II allows you to browse through all the
names of a cemetery and
you will recognize the person you want when your find him or her.
What is this project? At the present time I am computerizing the record's
of my Shul's Cemetery and would be happy to include my records in a
centralized database.

Eric S. Fanwick

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: People not found in the cemetery #general

Eric Fanwick <efanwick@...>
 

This problem can be helped with full participation in the International
Jewish Cemetery Project. Phase II allows you to browse through all the
names of a cemetery and
you will recognize the person you want when your find him or her.
What is this project? At the present time I am computerizing the record's
of my Shul's Cemetery and would be happy to include my records in a
centralized database.

Eric S. Fanwick

Lapidus Database #lithuania

BREST FAMILY <angi@...>
 

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From: BREST FAMILY <angi@...>
Subject: Lapidus Database
Date: Sunday, 02 August, 1998 4:12 PM

Dear Litvaksiggers,
For the past year our Lapidus Group have been researching
LAPIDUS/LAPIDES/LAPIDOS/LaPedes/LaPidus/LAPIDOTH etc families worldwide.
Thanks to everyone for all their help by contributing to this database.

If there are any more Lapidus' (all spellings) out there who would like
to
be part of the database , or get some Lapidus information >from us, please
could they contact me and I will be more than happy to help.
The database has the name of the Lapidus person, Shtetle they come from
and
date of birth/death (where known)

The earliest recorded Lapidus is 1770 and the most recent born is 1996.
There are 915 Lapidus names so far and more are coming in daily.

The purpose of this Database is to try to link some of the families. The
information on the Database is purely for people with Lapidus roots to
use
for furthering their family search, and cannot be put onto homepages or
the
Internet or published in any way as certain people are sensitive and
protective about their families.

Anne Lapedus Brest. Sandton South Africa.
mailto angi@...

Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Lapidus Database #lithuania

BREST FAMILY <angi@...>
 

----------
From: BREST FAMILY <angi@...>
Subject: Lapidus Database
Date: Sunday, 02 August, 1998 4:12 PM

Dear Litvaksiggers,
For the past year our Lapidus Group have been researching
LAPIDUS/LAPIDES/LAPIDOS/LaPedes/LaPidus/LAPIDOTH etc families worldwide.
Thanks to everyone for all their help by contributing to this database.

If there are any more Lapidus' (all spellings) out there who would like
to
be part of the database , or get some Lapidus information >from us, please
could they contact me and I will be more than happy to help.
The database has the name of the Lapidus person, Shtetle they come from
and
date of birth/death (where known)

The earliest recorded Lapidus is 1770 and the most recent born is 1996.
There are 915 Lapidus names so far and more are coming in daily.

The purpose of this Database is to try to link some of the families. The
information on the Database is purely for people with Lapidus roots to
use
for furthering their family search, and cannot be put onto homepages or
the
Internet or published in any way as certain people are sensitive and
protective about their families.

Anne Lapedus Brest. Sandton South Africa.
mailto angi@...

Seeking ZARCHIN #belarus

A Waldinger <epic@...>
 

My name is Amy Waldinger. My family with the surname of ZARCHIN is from
Minsk gub., Ossipovichi, specifically. We find very little as a result
of the research done by Don Mopsick for BIG and that led me to believe
that we were originally not >from the Bobruisk area. It is apocryphal
that we may be >from Mogilev. However, ZARCHINs keep popping up all over
Belarus. I can only hope that somebody out there knows of this name.
BTW, in Russian it would be ZARHIN and there is a ZARCHI family in
Brooklyn with my same oral history who dropped the "in".

Amy Waldinger
http://www.dorsai.org/~epic

Belarus SIG #Belarus Seeking ZARCHIN #belarus

A Waldinger <epic@...>
 

My name is Amy Waldinger. My family with the surname of ZARCHIN is from
Minsk gub., Ossipovichi, specifically. We find very little as a result
of the research done by Don Mopsick for BIG and that led me to believe
that we were originally not >from the Bobruisk area. It is apocryphal
that we may be >from Mogilev. However, ZARCHINs keep popping up all over
Belarus. I can only hope that somebody out there knows of this name.
BTW, in Russian it would be ZARHIN and there is a ZARCHI family in
Brooklyn with my same oral history who dropped the "in".

Amy Waldinger
http://www.dorsai.org/~epic

Hungarian books #hungary

Henry Wellisch <Henry_Wellisch@...>
 

The two books listed below are in the current E-mail catalogue of Schoen
books.
E-mail address: schoen@...
Henry Wellisch
Toronto
-------------------------------------------------------------
A VILAGIRODALOM TORTENETE
(Budapest: Revai, 1943) 352+375+446pp, boards, 12mo, cond. good.
Antal, Szerb
Order # 19333. Price $95
____________________________________________________________
HORTHYIST_FASCIST TERROR IN NORTHWESTERN ROMANIA: SEPT. 1940_OCT.
1944
(Bucharest: Meridane, 1986) 327pp, cloth, 8vo, cond. good.
Important work on Romania under the fascists and Nazis..
Fatu, Mihai (editor)
Order # 2778. Price $65

Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian books #hungary

Henry Wellisch <Henry_Wellisch@...>
 

The two books listed below are in the current E-mail catalogue of Schoen
books.
E-mail address: schoen@...
Henry Wellisch
Toronto
-------------------------------------------------------------
A VILAGIRODALOM TORTENETE
(Budapest: Revai, 1943) 352+375+446pp, boards, 12mo, cond. good.
Antal, Szerb
Order # 19333. Price $95
____________________________________________________________
HORTHYIST_FASCIST TERROR IN NORTHWESTERN ROMANIA: SEPT. 1940_OCT.
1944
(Bucharest: Meridane, 1986) 327pp, cloth, 8vo, cond. good.
Important work on Romania under the fascists and Nazis..
Fatu, Mihai (editor)
Order # 2778. Price $65

seeking rubins #belarus

Joyce Peck <Joycekp@...>
 

I am new to the Belarus SIG, new to Jewish Gen, new to the genealogical
world. Please bear with me. Am looking for Rubin or Rubincheck in Minsk,
Julius and Rose Goldsmith Rubin, married sometime about 1885, 6-7
chidlren born between 1885 and 1905 or thereabouts, Rose was a butcher
in Minsk, family left Minsk 1911 for US and eventually Springfield,
Mass.

Joyce Kirsner Peck

Belarus SIG #Belarus seeking rubins #belarus

Joyce Peck <Joycekp@...>
 

I am new to the Belarus SIG, new to Jewish Gen, new to the genealogical
world. Please bear with me. Am looking for Rubin or Rubincheck in Minsk,
Julius and Rose Goldsmith Rubin, married sometime about 1885, 6-7
chidlren born between 1885 and 1905 or thereabouts, Rose was a butcher
in Minsk, family left Minsk 1911 for US and eventually Springfield,
Mass.

Joyce Kirsner Peck

Lithuanian Documents/Hank Propp #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

Hank,

You wrote the following:

Subject: Lithuanian Documents
From: <HankPropp@...>
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 11:55:56 EDT
X-Message-Number: 8

A little while ago I wrote the research approach being currently used by =
the=0ALithuanian Archives is causing a hit or miss retrival of documents.=
This was=0Avery correctly amplified on by Saul in his usual professiona=
l and wider-scope=0Amanner.

I would like to purpose a new approach that maybe in long run prove to be=
=0Abetter than what we are now doing by submitting a surname and request =
to a=0Asearch of a specific shtetlach or area in Lithuania.

A more positive approach may be that the achives complie "catlogs" of wha=
t=0Athey have on file and we choose the docments to be search for a given=
=0Asurname(s) and given cost. That either as a Sig or individually we su=
bscribe=0Ato the "catlogs" and as they are updated we would receive a new=
catlog with=0Athe changes highlighted. We all know now that there are m=
any many more=0Adocuments available that were listed in Avotaynu Monograp=
h, Jewish Vital=0ARecords, Revision Lists and Other Jewish Holdings in th=
e Lithuanian Achives=0Awhich is becoming pass=E9. I am not undermining o=
r being critical of this=0Aoutstanding publication or the ground breaking=
work of Harold Rhodes and=0ASallyann Amdur Sacks. This lead the way to =
where we are at today and I=0Aconsider it a landmark publication. I am s=
uggesting in light of what is=0Ahappening today, the closer relationship =
between the achives and LitvakSig, we=0Aneed to able to improve and this =
request of a general search of documents is=0Aonly a beginning. It may e=
ven have to be a joint effort it could so large.=0AThe archives have to b=
e brought into the 21st century.

I would also like to remind the Sig that it is not only Jewish genealogis=
t,=0Awhich need this important information, but world-wide the Lithuanian=
community=0Ais also pressing for archival information for genealogical p=
urposes.

I present this thought to the Sig with the knowledge that a thread maybe=
=0Aestablished that would improve on anything I might think of alone. I =
also=0Awould work on any committee established to implement this type of =
improvement.
________________________________
The jist of your remarks is the following sentence; " It may e=
ven have to be a joint effort it could so large.=0AThe archives have to b=
e brought into the 21st century."

The answer to what you suggest is very simple. If you, or someone else could
donate one million dollars to the State Historical Archive in Vilnius, they
may be able to be brought into the 21st century. It is also possible that may
not be enough. After you accomplish that, additional millions would be needed
to upgrade the Kaunas Archive and all the other archives in Lithuania.
Evidently, you have never been to the archives in Lithuania. If you had, you
would not be suggesting the ideas you are presenting. They sound good, and we
all agree, but they are beyond practicality. We all welcome ideas but you also
must be able to come up with ways in which those ideas can be utilized and
bear fruit. If that cannot be done, the idea is nothing more than that - an
idea.

Howard Margol
Member, Litvak SIG Records Acquisition Committee

Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Lithuanian Documents/Hank Propp #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

Hank,

You wrote the following:

Subject: Lithuanian Documents
From: <HankPropp@...>
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 11:55:56 EDT
X-Message-Number: 8

A little while ago I wrote the research approach being currently used by =
the=0ALithuanian Archives is causing a hit or miss retrival of documents.=
This was=0Avery correctly amplified on by Saul in his usual professiona=
l and wider-scope=0Amanner.

I would like to purpose a new approach that maybe in long run prove to be=
=0Abetter than what we are now doing by submitting a surname and request =
to a=0Asearch of a specific shtetlach or area in Lithuania.

A more positive approach may be that the achives complie "catlogs" of wha=
t=0Athey have on file and we choose the docments to be search for a given=
=0Asurname(s) and given cost. That either as a Sig or individually we su=
bscribe=0Ato the "catlogs" and as they are updated we would receive a new=
catlog with=0Athe changes highlighted. We all know now that there are m=
any many more=0Adocuments available that were listed in Avotaynu Monograp=
h, Jewish Vital=0ARecords, Revision Lists and Other Jewish Holdings in th=
e Lithuanian Achives=0Awhich is becoming pass=E9. I am not undermining o=
r being critical of this=0Aoutstanding publication or the ground breaking=
work of Harold Rhodes and=0ASallyann Amdur Sacks. This lead the way to =
where we are at today and I=0Aconsider it a landmark publication. I am s=
uggesting in light of what is=0Ahappening today, the closer relationship =
between the achives and LitvakSig, we=0Aneed to able to improve and this =
request of a general search of documents is=0Aonly a beginning. It may e=
ven have to be a joint effort it could so large.=0AThe archives have to b=
e brought into the 21st century.

I would also like to remind the Sig that it is not only Jewish genealogis=
t,=0Awhich need this important information, but world-wide the Lithuanian=
community=0Ais also pressing for archival information for genealogical p=
urposes.

I present this thought to the Sig with the knowledge that a thread maybe=
=0Aestablished that would improve on anything I might think of alone. I =
also=0Awould work on any committee established to implement this type of =
improvement.
________________________________
The jist of your remarks is the following sentence; " It may e=
ven have to be a joint effort it could so large.=0AThe archives have to b=
e brought into the 21st century."

The answer to what you suggest is very simple. If you, or someone else could
donate one million dollars to the State Historical Archive in Vilnius, they
may be able to be brought into the 21st century. It is also possible that may
not be enough. After you accomplish that, additional millions would be needed
to upgrade the Kaunas Archive and all the other archives in Lithuania.
Evidently, you have never been to the archives in Lithuania. If you had, you
would not be suggesting the ideas you are presenting. They sound good, and we
all agree, but they are beyond practicality. We all welcome ideas but you also
must be able to come up with ways in which those ideas can be utilized and
bear fruit. If that cannot be done, the idea is nothing more than that - an
idea.

Howard Margol
Member, Litvak SIG Records Acquisition Committee

Jewish communities in Hungary no.3. #hungary

Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
 

Works on individual Jewish communities are often full of genealogical
data. I have been compiling a bibliography of works on this topic. This
bibliography is far >from completed, yet it might be of help to researchers of
families >from those communities.

In the third installment, I am sending works that cover individual communities >from
countries which used to be part of historical Hungary >from A to B.

A

Aba (Fejir megye)
Michael Sozan The Jews of Aba. In: East European Quaterly. Vol. 20 No.4.
1986.jznius Boulder,Co.
Michael Sozan Zsidsk egy dunantzli falu kvzvssigiben. Debrecen,
1984

Abony
Dr. Vajda Bila A zsidsk tvrtinete Abonyban. Abony, 1896

Bacsalmas
Polgar Ernu Bacsalmasi dolgozatok. 1992

Balmazujvaros
Mose Elijahu Gonda A debreceni zsidsk szaz ive. Tel Aviv, 1970

Banffyhunyad-Huedin
Eliezer Laci Klepner Zikhronotai mebanfihunyad Tel Aviv, 1990

Bartfa-Bardejov
M. Atlas Die J|dische Geschichte der Stadt Bartfeld. In:Zeitschrift f|r die
Geschichte der Juden.. III. 1966. 151.
Abraham L. Grussgott Lezecher kehilath kodesh Bardejov. 1988

Beregszasz-Berehovo
Yehoshua Halevy Beregszasz-Berehovo zsidssaga kipekben. Tel Aviv,
1989

Beszterce-Bistritz-Bistrica
Nutah Aryeh Gafni (Weinstock) Bistritz- iyr veym beyisrael.

Bethlen
Singer Zoltan Volt egyszer egy Dis...Bethlen, Magyarlapos, Retteg,
Nagyilonda is kvrnyike. 2 vol. Tel Aviv, i.n.

Bilke
Isidor Reisman Bilke remembered. 1995

Bonyhad
Eisner Janos A bonyhadi zsidsk tvrtinete. Tel Aviv, 1965
Leslie Blau Bonyhad: A destroyed Community. 1994

Borsa
Gedaliam Stein Zichron Borsa 1985

Budapest
B|chler Sandor A zsidsk tvrtinete Budapesten. Budapest, 1901
Komoroczy Geza A zsido Budapest. Vol.1-2. Budapest, 1995
et al.

Busztina
Alexander Kraus Bustino as Remembered.
--
Ujlaki.Gyorgy@...
Researching: Wurm, Hollander, Konigstein, Fein, Pollak, Reich, Barany, Cucak,
Drach, Purjesz, Porges/z, Porjes/z, Bischitz, Goldschmied, Iritz

Test #hungary

RoseLinden@...
 

Sorry. This is a test as I haven't received H-sig mail for a couple of days
Rose Linden