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Dear Members,

The following census contains the data of those Jewish persons who lived
in Ungvar in July 1, 1848. >from the 11 headings that can be found in the
census, you will find the 5 most important ones hereafter. We have
copies of the original census, if anyone is interested in having copies
of some of the pages, please contact us.

http://www.familytree.hu/doc/UNGVAR.doc

Regards,

George


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Hungary SIG #Hungary [Fwd: JEWISH CENSUS / 1848 UNGVAR] #hungary

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Dear Members,

The following census contains the data of those Jewish persons who lived
in Ungvar in July 1, 1848. >from the 11 headings that can be found in the
census, you will find the 5 most important ones hereafter. We have
copies of the original census, if anyone is interested in having copies
of some of the pages, please contact us.

http://www.familytree.hu/doc/UNGVAR.doc

Regards,

George


--
George Eotvos
Partner & Research Director

COME AND VISIT US AT THE 1998 NGS CONFERENCE IN DENVER, CO, 6-9 MAY.
YOU ARE WELCOME AT OUR BOOTH NO. 533.


FAMILY TREE Ltd. Genealogical Research Bureau
Member of the National Genealogical Society (USA)
Phone: (36 1) 331 3569 / Fax: (36 1) 302 7388
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Re: Initial #general

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Ury Link <uryl@globalxs.nl> wrote:

Subject: Initial
Dear Jewishgenners,
I am a new member of this club and i enjoy this site. But I have some
problems I am not so familiar with all the Initials that I read in the
letters, pleas my I can have a explanation for so much acronyms:

Yivo, Nypl`s, Na, Jgs, Ftw, Ftjp, Gedcom, Iajgs, Cjsi.
This is only a small selection >from the last days.

These abbreviations are defined and explained in the last
section of the JewishGen FAQ ("Frequently Asked Questions")
document.

See <http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html>.

Warren

Warren Blatt
Boston, MA
<wblatt@jewishgen.org>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Initial #general

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Ury Link <uryl@globalxs.nl> wrote:

Subject: Initial
Dear Jewishgenners,
I am a new member of this club and i enjoy this site. But I have some
problems I am not so familiar with all the Initials that I read in the
letters, pleas my I can have a explanation for so much acronyms:

Yivo, Nypl`s, Na, Jgs, Ftw, Ftjp, Gedcom, Iajgs, Cjsi.
This is only a small selection >from the last days.

These abbreviations are defined and explained in the last
section of the JewishGen FAQ ("Frequently Asked Questions")
document.

See <http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html>.

Warren

Warren Blatt
Boston, MA
<wblatt@jewishgen.org>


Fw: Nine-Days #general

Haim Fridman <fridman@...>
 

Judith Romney Wegner presented an excellent explanation of that period of
national mourning referred to as "The Nine Days".

It is a pity that she added an inaccurate assessment of the degree in which
this period is observed in Israel:
In Israel, because the establishment of the State is widely perceived as
the first step in the redemption of the Jewish people, many of those who
observe Tish'ah B'Av at all fast only until noon rather than all day long.
ALL Orthodox Jews observe Tisha Be'Av in its entirety (unless medical
reasons preclude), both in Israel and throughout the world. The discussion
as to the relevance given the re-establishment of the Jewish State, is
beyond the scope of JewishGen. If I may be permitted to convey my personal
opinion, this period commemorates the seige of ancient Jerusalem which
culminated in the destruction of the Temple on Tisha Be'Av, bringing with it the great Exile of the Jews >from Eretz Yisrael. One can regard this period as the foundation stone of the suffering Jews experienced over the last 2000 years.

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
email: fridman@ultinet.co.il
web page: http://www.avotaynu.com/gaonbook.html

MODERATOR NOTE: Both views having been expressed, this thread is ended.
Anyone wishing to continue with either writer is encouraged to do so
privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Fw: Nine-Days #general

Haim Fridman <fridman@...>
 

Judith Romney Wegner presented an excellent explanation of that period of
national mourning referred to as "The Nine Days".

It is a pity that she added an inaccurate assessment of the degree in which
this period is observed in Israel:
In Israel, because the establishment of the State is widely perceived as
the first step in the redemption of the Jewish people, many of those who
observe Tish'ah B'Av at all fast only until noon rather than all day long.
ALL Orthodox Jews observe Tisha Be'Av in its entirety (unless medical
reasons preclude), both in Israel and throughout the world. The discussion
as to the relevance given the re-establishment of the Jewish State, is
beyond the scope of JewishGen. If I may be permitted to convey my personal
opinion, this period commemorates the seige of ancient Jerusalem which
culminated in the destruction of the Temple on Tisha Be'Av, bringing with it the great Exile of the Jews >from Eretz Yisrael. One can regard this period as the foundation stone of the suffering Jews experienced over the last 2000 years.

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
email: fridman@ultinet.co.il
web page: http://www.avotaynu.com/gaonbook.html

MODERATOR NOTE: Both views having been expressed, this thread is ended.
Anyone wishing to continue with either writer is encouraged to do so
privately.


Fw: Litvaks in Galicia #general

Haim Fridman <fridman@...>
 

David Price asked:
We are looking into the history of the name JUPITER. Joseph J (born early
1800's, d 1893) married Sarah Leah HONIG (died 1890's) lived in Galicia
(on Dniester River, near Stanislow, now Ivano-Frankovsk), near Lemberg
(Lvov), maybe Saharia, Galicia. Beider's book says the name is >from the
small town, UPITE, in the district PANEVEZYS (PONEVYEZH,PONIEWICZ) in
Lithuania. Upite was founded in 1780. The district had 50000 Jews out of
a
population of 200000 by 1900. Why was there a migration >from Lithuania to
Galicia? Was there a historical reason?
Yes, there were Litvaks who settled in Galicia. The reason was that the
Litvaks, renowned for their scholarship, were welcomed as Melamdim
(religious school teachers) in Galicia. I am not aware of particular
research on this trend, but the explantion was given by a former Galician
whose family used the traditionally Litvak form of pronunciation in Yiddish
and Hebrew.

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
email: fridman@ultinet.co.il
web page: http://www.avotaynu.com/gaonbook.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Fw: Litvaks in Galicia #general

Haim Fridman <fridman@...>
 

David Price asked:
We are looking into the history of the name JUPITER. Joseph J (born early
1800's, d 1893) married Sarah Leah HONIG (died 1890's) lived in Galicia
(on Dniester River, near Stanislow, now Ivano-Frankovsk), near Lemberg
(Lvov), maybe Saharia, Galicia. Beider's book says the name is >from the
small town, UPITE, in the district PANEVEZYS (PONEVYEZH,PONIEWICZ) in
Lithuania. Upite was founded in 1780. The district had 50000 Jews out of
a
population of 200000 by 1900. Why was there a migration >from Lithuania to
Galicia? Was there a historical reason?
Yes, there were Litvaks who settled in Galicia. The reason was that the
Litvaks, renowned for their scholarship, were welcomed as Melamdim
(religious school teachers) in Galicia. I am not aware of particular
research on this trend, but the explantion was given by a former Galician
whose family used the traditionally Litvak form of pronunciation in Yiddish
and Hebrew.

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
email: fridman@ultinet.co.il
web page: http://www.avotaynu.com/gaonbook.html


Researching Story of the Jews of MAJORCA #general

micheline Gutmann <MichelineGUTMANN@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

Have you heard of somebody who has studdied the history of the
Jews of Majorca who lived there in endogamy since the Inquisition ?

Thank you for any answer.


Micheline GUTMANN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researching Story of the Jews of MAJORCA #general

micheline Gutmann <MichelineGUTMANN@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

Have you heard of somebody who has studdied the history of the
Jews of Majorca who lived there in endogamy since the Inquisition ?

Thank you for any answer.


Micheline GUTMANN


Happy Belarus surfing! #belarus

Ilya Zeldes <ilyaz@...>
 

Glad to join a new Belarus SIG! I was searching Belarus for a number of
years.

The names I'm researching are:
AINBINDER,
MOSTKOV,
GINZBURG,
ZELDES.

The towns of interest:
RECHITSA,
SLUTSK,
MINSK,
STARYE (NOVYE) DOROGI,
CHAUSY
-----------------
Ilya Zeldes
Email: ILYAZ@ILINE.COM


Belarus SIG #Belarus Happy Belarus surfing! #belarus

Ilya Zeldes <ilyaz@...>
 

Glad to join a new Belarus SIG! I was searching Belarus for a number of
years.

The names I'm researching are:
AINBINDER,
MOSTKOV,
GINZBURG,
ZELDES.

The towns of interest:
RECHITSA,
SLUTSK,
MINSK,
STARYE (NOVYE) DOROGI,
CHAUSY
-----------------
Ilya Zeldes
Email: ILYAZ@ILINE.COM


Seeking USLANs, SPROTZ,KAPLAN - Uzlany #belarus

Diane Frankel <dfrankel@...>
 

I am new to this group. I am trying to find any of the USLANs, SPROTZs and
even KAPLANs >from a shtetl called Uzlany or Uzlian. It's about 40mi SE of
Minsk, (city).

Diane Frankel
North Miami Beach, FL
dfrankel@icanect.net


Initial #general

Ury Link <uryl@...>
 

Thanks for all the people that help me with the initials,it is to much to
answer ewryone separeted.
many thanks
Ury Link


Belarus SIG #Belarus Seeking USLANs, SPROTZ,KAPLAN - Uzlany #belarus

Diane Frankel <dfrankel@...>
 

I am new to this group. I am trying to find any of the USLANs, SPROTZs and
even KAPLANs >from a shtetl called Uzlany or Uzlian. It's about 40mi SE of
Minsk, (city).

Diane Frankel
North Miami Beach, FL
dfrankel@icanect.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Initial #general

Ury Link <uryl@...>
 

Thanks for all the people that help me with the initials,it is to much to
answer ewryone separeted.
many thanks
Ury Link


mezuza on angle #general

curwin <curwin@...>
 

While the posted question didn't seem to have anything to do with genealogy,
I think I can provide an answer with some connection to genealogy.

There was a disagreement between the Sages as to whether the mezuza
should be placed horizontally or vertically. As a compromise, it was placed
on an angle.

The lesson to be learned >from this, is that if one was to come and look
at the mezuza without knowing the background, he would think that it was
placed on an angle as the ideal state. But someone who knows the
story, is aware that there is nothing ideal about the angle, but the significance
lies in the disagreement between the horizontal and vertical positions.

This is an important lesson for our genealogical searches - sometimes the
final result we see is much less important than the developments that led to
it. This can be for a surname, a town of origin or any other search.

The example of the "mezuza on an angle" is used by Rabbi Mordechai
BREUER, one of the most important teachers of Bible today. He is
the grandson of Rabbi Shlomo BREUR, who was the son-in-law of Rabbi
Shimshon (Samson) Raphael HIRSH, of Frankfurt, Germany.


--
-David Curwin
curwin@gezernet.co.il
Kvutzat Yavne, Israel

researching:
SUZMAN Balbieriskis, Lithuania
PAGLIN Lithuania
ROGOFF Raguva/Vilkomir/Anyksciai, Lithuania
BERMAN Anyksciai, Lithuania
TATELMAN, MIRVIS Seduva, Lithuania
FRAKT, CRONIK Jonava, Lithuania
GARBER Krekenava, Lithuania
BUROFSKY (BOROWSKI, BURROWS) Salantai, Lithuania /Gdansk, Poland
ZIDES, ONGEIBERG Slutsk, Belarus
YASKOLKA Ciechanowiec/Grodno, Poland
MALOWER Lomza, Poland


Re: The First Name CYRIL #general

JSabr83945
 

My mother, who lived in Winnipeg, Canada,
called herself Syril. It was Sarah in Herbrew.

June Sabroff
jsabr@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen mezuza on angle #general

curwin <curwin@...>
 

While the posted question didn't seem to have anything to do with genealogy,
I think I can provide an answer with some connection to genealogy.

There was a disagreement between the Sages as to whether the mezuza
should be placed horizontally or vertically. As a compromise, it was placed
on an angle.

The lesson to be learned >from this, is that if one was to come and look
at the mezuza without knowing the background, he would think that it was
placed on an angle as the ideal state. But someone who knows the
story, is aware that there is nothing ideal about the angle, but the significance
lies in the disagreement between the horizontal and vertical positions.

This is an important lesson for our genealogical searches - sometimes the
final result we see is much less important than the developments that led to
it. This can be for a surname, a town of origin or any other search.

The example of the "mezuza on an angle" is used by Rabbi Mordechai
BREUER, one of the most important teachers of Bible today. He is
the grandson of Rabbi Shlomo BREUR, who was the son-in-law of Rabbi
Shimshon (Samson) Raphael HIRSH, of Frankfurt, Germany.


--
-David Curwin
curwin@gezernet.co.il
Kvutzat Yavne, Israel

researching:
SUZMAN Balbieriskis, Lithuania
PAGLIN Lithuania
ROGOFF Raguva/Vilkomir/Anyksciai, Lithuania
BERMAN Anyksciai, Lithuania
TATELMAN, MIRVIS Seduva, Lithuania
FRAKT, CRONIK Jonava, Lithuania
GARBER Krekenava, Lithuania
BUROFSKY (BOROWSKI, BURROWS) Salantai, Lithuania /Gdansk, Poland
ZIDES, ONGEIBERG Slutsk, Belarus
YASKOLKA Ciechanowiec/Grodno, Poland
MALOWER Lomza, Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The First Name CYRIL #general

JSabr83945
 

My mother, who lived in Winnipeg, Canada,
called herself Syril. It was Sarah in Herbrew.

June Sabroff
jsabr@aol.com