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Re: Re : Rocks on tombstones #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 06:00:25, Alexander Serebrenik
<alicser@...> 'llowed:

 The explanation i heard here, in Israel, is that everything
 except rocks is mortal (f.e. flowers) - and only stones will
 remain forever. So does our memory...
 Best regards,
 Alexander

This is very poetic, but probably not historically meaningful.

In many cultures (including ours) it is considered a good deed to take
care of burial of the deceased, for very rational reasons. Placing a
stone (rock sounds a little ambitious) on a grave is an expression of
this good deed, even if the occupant of the grave has been there for
centuries; it is grave maintenance, in that case.


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Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Researching:

from Lomza Gubernia in Russian Poland: Nowicki, Neimark.
from Dorohoi District in Romania: Hertanu, Abramovici, Lauer.
from Iasi in Romania: Grisaru, Vataru.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Re : Rocks on tombstones #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 06:00:25, Alexander Serebrenik
<alicser@...> 'llowed:

 The explanation i heard here, in Israel, is that everything
 except rocks is mortal (f.e. flowers) - and only stones will
 remain forever. So does our memory...
 Best regards,
 Alexander

This is very poetic, but probably not historically meaningful.

In many cultures (including ours) it is considered a good deed to take
care of burial of the deceased, for very rational reasons. Placing a
stone (rock sounds a little ambitious) on a grave is an expression of
this good deed, even if the occupant of the grave has been there for
centuries; it is grave maintenance, in that case.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Researching:

from Lomza Gubernia in Russian Poland: Nowicki, Neimark.
from Dorohoi District in Romania: Hertanu, Abramovici, Lauer.
from Iasi in Romania: Grisaru, Vataru.
Re: Origins of TEPPER, TOPPER, TOEPPFER, etc. #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 14:38:08, Unofficial Tepper Group ListOwner
<UTG.ListOwner@...> 'llowed:

 Hello all,

 I recently noticed (don't remember where, but I believe it was JewishGen)
 someone asked the origins of the name Tepermos - which was discovered to be
 a Yiddish pottering measure. I was wondering if anyone knows the origin of
 Tepper, Teper, etc., which I assume would be similar in some way to
 Tepermos.

Why is this difficult? German for 'pot' is 'topf', so that 'potter' is
'topfer' (with an umlaut over the 'o'). Yiddish is not very careful
with vowels, and certainly knows nothing about umlauts, so its
phonetic approximation is 'e'; it also routinely simplifies 'pf' to
'p'. That produces Tepper = Potter.

'Tepperman' is left as a home exercise.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Researching:

from Lomza Gubernia in Russian Poland: Nowicki, Neimark.
from Dorohoi District in Romania: Hertanu, Abramovici, Lauer.
from Iasi in Romania: Grisaru, Vataru.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Origins of TEPPER, TOPPER, TOEPPFER, etc. #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 14:38:08, Unofficial Tepper Group ListOwner
<UTG.ListOwner@...> 'llowed:

 Hello all,

 I recently noticed (don't remember where, but I believe it was JewishGen)
 someone asked the origins of the name Tepermos - which was discovered to be
 a Yiddish pottering measure. I was wondering if anyone knows the origin of
 Tepper, Teper, etc., which I assume would be similar in some way to
 Tepermos.

Why is this difficult? German for 'pot' is 'topf', so that 'potter' is
'topfer' (with an umlaut over the 'o'). Yiddish is not very careful
with vowels, and certainly knows nothing about umlauts, so its
phonetic approximation is 'e'; it also routinely simplifies 'pf' to
'p'. That produces Tepper = Potter.

'Tepperman' is left as a home exercise.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Researching:

from Lomza Gubernia in Russian Poland: Nowicki, Neimark.
from Dorohoi District in Romania: Hertanu, Abramovici, Lauer.
from Iasi in Romania: Grisaru, Vataru.
New York newspapers 1922/23 - Thanks #general

Alan Karbritz <AlanK@...>
 

Just a brief note to thank all the JewishGenners who replied to my posting.

As usual, the replies received were accurate and arrived almost instantly.

Thanks again.

Alan Karbritz.


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*Alan Karbritz*
Email AlanK@...
London UK
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York newspapers 1922/23 - Thanks #general

Alan Karbritz <AlanK@...>
 

Just a brief note to thank all the JewishGenners who replied to my posting.

As usual, the replies received were accurate and arrived almost instantly.

Thanks again.

Alan Karbritz.


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*Alan Karbritz*
Email AlanK@...
London UK
Searching the LEVENE family - London #general

Darryl Mydat <Darryl.Mydat@...>
 

I am searching for the descendents of the Levene family in London, the
information I have is as follows:

Louis Levene m Annie Mydat

Children:

Abe Levene m Minnie Kosky. Children Yvonne Levene,Sonia Levene & Andrew
Levene

Joe Levene m Golda Levene ( His Step sister) Child Marsha Levene

Eddie Levene died in his 20's


Does this ring any bells ?

TIA

Darryl Mydat
Looking for DURRA. #general

Durra <meldrum@...>
 

Searching for: DURRA in Israel.
COHEN - DURRA in Mexico.
MEYER >from Karlsruhe, Germany.
BRANDES >from Heidelberg, Germany.

Kindly communicate directly by Email to:

Ernie Durra.
Cape Town.
South Africa. Email: <meldrum@...>
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching the LEVENE family - London #general

Darryl Mydat <Darryl.Mydat@...>
 

I am searching for the descendents of the Levene family in London, the
information I have is as follows:

Louis Levene m Annie Mydat

Children:

Abe Levene m Minnie Kosky. Children Yvonne Levene,Sonia Levene & Andrew
Levene

Joe Levene m Golda Levene ( His Step sister) Child Marsha Levene

Eddie Levene died in his 20's


Does this ring any bells ?

TIA

Darryl Mydat
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for DURRA. #general

Durra <meldrum@...>
 

Searching for: DURRA in Israel.
COHEN - DURRA in Mexico.
MEYER >from Karlsruhe, Germany.
BRANDES >from Heidelberg, Germany.

Kindly communicate directly by Email to:

Ernie Durra.
Cape Town.
South Africa. Email: <meldrum@...>
Searching for MYDATT in UK #general

Darryl Mydat <Darryl.Mydat@...>
 

I am trying to trace the following cousins, can you help?

Peggy Mydatt - Married name unknown, Brother Jack Mydatt born 1913 and
living in Cambridge.

Gillian Mydatt - Married name unknown, Daughter of Jack Mydatt

Susan Mydatt - Married name unknown, Daughter of Jack Mydatt believed to be
in the Henly on Thames area.


Any suggestions on how to trace any of the above would be greatly
appreciated.


TIA

Darryl Mydat
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for MYDATT in UK #general

Darryl Mydat <Darryl.Mydat@...>
 

I am trying to trace the following cousins, can you help?

Peggy Mydatt - Married name unknown, Brother Jack Mydatt born 1913 and
living in Cambridge.

Gillian Mydatt - Married name unknown, Daughter of Jack Mydatt

Susan Mydatt - Married name unknown, Daughter of Jack Mydatt believed to be
in the Henly on Thames area.


Any suggestions on how to trace any of the above would be greatly
appreciated.


TIA

Darryl Mydat
Ages of child #general

Barbara C. Johnson <barbaracjohnson@...>
 

When I was viewing the 1920 Census, my aunt was listed as being 4
7/12...so I finally realized. The "7" was not clear and I was
trying to \figure out qwhat "4 /12" was. It may be that it was
a ministerial error. For instance, if it was the custom of
writing out the years and months of a young child's age, it may
also have been ordinary to write out also months and days, and
the two could have been mixed up. Like saying 2 and 10. One
person would think 2 months 10 days, another 2 years, 10 months.

Just a thought, Barbara
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ages of child #general

Barbara C. Johnson <barbaracjohnson@...>
 

When I was viewing the 1920 Census, my aunt was listed as being 4
7/12...so I finally realized. The "7" was not clear and I was
trying to \figure out qwhat "4 /12" was. It may be that it was
a ministerial error. For instance, if it was the custom of
writing out the years and months of a young child's age, it may
also have been ordinary to write out also months and days, and
the two could have been mixed up. Like saying 2 and 10. One
person would think 2 months 10 days, another 2 years, 10 months.

Just a thought, Barbara
Nell SILVERMAN #general

Stacy Harris <stacy.harris@...>
 

I am seeking information on Nell SILVERMAN of New York. No other info
available, as I don't know where she fits on family tree.

Stacy
stacy.harris@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Nell SILVERMAN #general

Stacy Harris <stacy.harris@...>
 

I am seeking information on Nell SILVERMAN of New York. No other info
available, as I don't know where she fits on family tree.

Stacy
stacy.harris@...
Searching for Vienna Business WWII - EISNER #general

JMGlazer@...
 

Dear Jewish Genners - this is my first posting, so forgive me in advance for
any errors. My great grandparents, Max and Regina Eisner ran or owned a
butcher shop in Vienna before and during WWII. The name of this butcher shop
was "Max Eisner Fleischhauer". This business was taken by the nazis around
1937/38 and my great-grandparents escaped to Palestine. To the best of my
knowledge, nobody has ever followed up to determine what happened to this
business. Any ideas of where I can start? Also, I would be very interested
in knowing if this butcher shop and more importantly, my great grandparents
sound familiar to those who lived in Vienna during those terrible times. Max
and Regina Eisner had two children Egon (my grandfather/Opa) and Lucy who also
escaped to Palestine. My grandfather Egon married Rosa Stadler (part of the
Stadler family escaped to Palestine and Switzerland) while the rest perished
in camps.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Jordana Glazer
jmglazer@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for Vienna Business WWII - EISNER #general

JMGlazer@...
 

Dear Jewish Genners - this is my first posting, so forgive me in advance for
any errors. My great grandparents, Max and Regina Eisner ran or owned a
butcher shop in Vienna before and during WWII. The name of this butcher shop
was "Max Eisner Fleischhauer". This business was taken by the nazis around
1937/38 and my great-grandparents escaped to Palestine. To the best of my
knowledge, nobody has ever followed up to determine what happened to this
business. Any ideas of where I can start? Also, I would be very interested
in knowing if this butcher shop and more importantly, my great grandparents
sound familiar to those who lived in Vienna during those terrible times. Max
and Regina Eisner had two children Egon (my grandfather/Opa) and Lucy who also
escaped to Palestine. My grandfather Egon married Rosa Stadler (part of the
Stadler family escaped to Palestine and Switzerland) while the rest perished
in camps.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Jordana Glazer
jmglazer@...
Re: Two months vs. Two years #general

Alan Weiner <asweiner@...>
 

Dear Ms. Christiansen,

The book might have wrong information; it is just an index. You should
look at the passenger list itself. If that has the same information as
the index, then you need to decide which source you want to go by. You
should also look for things like naturalization papers, census records,
and vital records. I hope this helps some.


Sincerely yours,

Alan Weiner
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Two months vs. Two years #general

Alan Weiner <asweiner@...>
 

Dear Ms. Christiansen,

The book might have wrong information; it is just an index. You should
look at the passenger list itself. If that has the same information as
the index, then you need to decide which source you want to go by. You
should also look for things like naturalization papers, census records,
and vital records. I hope this helps some.


Sincerely yours,

Alan Weiner
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