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Re: Kovna #general

emott@...
 

Barbara C. Johnson wrote:

When I recently looked at the 1920 Census for my maternal
grandparents, I had to search Walnut Street in CHELSEA, MA. Half
of Chelsea -- at least that particular area -- was >from Kovna. I
remember thinking, What happened in Kovna that the whole damn
town left. It was really quite remarkable. Neighbor after
neighbor.
That's interesting. My grandmother was >from Kovno, too. She spoke of a
pogrom during which she and one of her sisters hid under some hay for 3
days. I don't know if that event in and of itself precipitated her
emigration to Chicago.

Esther Mott
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Kovna #general

emott@...
 

Barbara C. Johnson wrote:

When I recently looked at the 1920 Census for my maternal
grandparents, I had to search Walnut Street in CHELSEA, MA. Half
of Chelsea -- at least that particular area -- was >from Kovna. I
remember thinking, What happened in Kovna that the whole damn
town left. It was really quite remarkable. Neighbor after
neighbor.
That's interesting. My grandmother was >from Kovno, too. She spoke of a
pogrom during which she and one of her sisters hid under some hay for 3
days. I don't know if that event in and of itself precipitated her
emigration to Chicago.

Esther Mott
Allen County Chief Genealogical to Speak #general

Jim Borman <jborman@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Indiana and the Indiana Genealogical
Society will co-sponsor a meeting on Thursday, September 10, 1998 >from 7
pm to 9 pm at the Indianapolis Hebrew Congregation, 6501 N. Meridian
Street, Indianapolis. The featured speaker will be Curt Witcher,
Director, Historical Genealogical Department, Allen County Public
Library.

For more information, contact
Jim Borman
President
Jewish Genealogical Society of Indiana
jborman@...
317/571-8728
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Allen County Chief Genealogical to Speak #general

Jim Borman <jborman@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Indiana and the Indiana Genealogical
Society will co-sponsor a meeting on Thursday, September 10, 1998 >from 7
pm to 9 pm at the Indianapolis Hebrew Congregation, 6501 N. Meridian
Street, Indianapolis. The featured speaker will be Curt Witcher,
Director, Historical Genealogical Department, Allen County Public
Library.

For more information, contact
Jim Borman
President
Jewish Genealogical Society of Indiana
jborman@...
317/571-8728
LA Syllabus #general

MNewman714@...
 

From: MNewman714@... (Marilyn Newman)

Not withstanding the fact that the Seminar in LA was the work of a VERY
diligent group of LA JGS members, it is the Syllabus that I feel is worthy of
mention. It is outstanding and most informative. In addition to details of
genealogical research information, it contains excellent overviews of most of
the speakers' lectures, the appended surname family finder, reference
information sources, the inclusion of contact information of over 70 JGSs and
10 SIGs plus updates >from several liaison groups and a statement >from the
Center for Jewish History in New York on its planned Jewish Genealogical
Institute to be established in the near future.

I plan to incorporate using the Syllabus as part of the program for our
Pittsburgh JGS meeting on September 14th.

Since I don't want to leave out the names of specific people involved with the
compilation of this book and the Seminar, in general, I will just say many
thanks to ALL for an excellent job.

Marilyn Newman

Researching: Geler - Kovno Gubernia, Lith.
Eber - Kovno Gubernia, Lith.
Sussman - Tirgu Ocna, Romania
Greenberg - Moinesti, Romania
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LA Syllabus #general

MNewman714@...
 

From: MNewman714@... (Marilyn Newman)

Not withstanding the fact that the Seminar in LA was the work of a VERY
diligent group of LA JGS members, it is the Syllabus that I feel is worthy of
mention. It is outstanding and most informative. In addition to details of
genealogical research information, it contains excellent overviews of most of
the speakers' lectures, the appended surname family finder, reference
information sources, the inclusion of contact information of over 70 JGSs and
10 SIGs plus updates >from several liaison groups and a statement >from the
Center for Jewish History in New York on its planned Jewish Genealogical
Institute to be established in the near future.

I plan to incorporate using the Syllabus as part of the program for our
Pittsburgh JGS meeting on September 14th.

Since I don't want to leave out the names of specific people involved with the
compilation of this book and the Seminar, in general, I will just say many
thanks to ALL for an excellent job.

Marilyn Newman

Researching: Geler - Kovno Gubernia, Lith.
Eber - Kovno Gubernia, Lith.
Sussman - Tirgu Ocna, Romania
Greenberg - Moinesti, Romania
Boxer/Boscka #general

David Gardner <dgard@...>
 

I have recently acquired a death certificate for my GGGmother. Her name
is listed as Sophina Boscka (Boxer). The writing is difficult to read.
She was born c1861 and married David Becker in 1882. They were married
in "Russia" and moved to France and then somehow came to the U.S. in the
1880s.

I spoke with a distant cousin who said they were "Litvaks". Does that
mean they were >from Lithuania or Latvia or either ?

Any information on this Becker/Boxer/Boscka connection would be
appreciated.

Thanks to all,


David Gardner M.D. Ph.D.
dgard@...
K6LPL
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Boxer/Boscka #general

David Gardner <dgard@...>
 

I have recently acquired a death certificate for my GGGmother. Her name
is listed as Sophina Boscka (Boxer). The writing is difficult to read.
She was born c1861 and married David Becker in 1882. They were married
in "Russia" and moved to France and then somehow came to the U.S. in the
1880s.

I spoke with a distant cousin who said they were "Litvaks". Does that
mean they were >from Lithuania or Latvia or either ?

Any information on this Becker/Boxer/Boscka connection would be
appreciated.

Thanks to all,


David Gardner M.D. Ph.D.
dgard@...
K6LPL
PA Death Index? -- Also "Searching for..." #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

Thanks to all of you who wrote to tell me that the State of Pennsylvania
did not have a State census. Now I have another question -- Is there a
Death Index for the State of PA?

My problem is quite simple: I know my mggparents' approximate years of
death (+/- three years), but I cannot narrow down the time frame any
more than that right now. That means that my mggf died sometime between
the Summer of 1898 thru 1902, and my mggm died some time between
1928-1931. At least those are the times I think they died. I've tried
just about every resource I can think of to find any records of them. I
know they were in Philly in 1900, but I cannot find them in the 1900 US
census. I tired to find them in City Directories for Philly in that
era, but was not successful there either. I have a hunch that they were
both buried in Har Nebo Cemetery in NE Philly, but the people in the
cemetery office tell me that their records are not on computer, and they
are not about to go searching through their old ledgers to find
burials. So, what's next? I live in Miami, FL, so going to the various
resource locations in Philly is out.

All I want to know is where and when Hyman (Haskell) COHAN and his wife
Ida Raizel Levinsky COHAN arrived in Philly (probably some time between
1891-1895)(they're not on the Phila., or Baltimore passenger lists). I
want to know when they actually died, and where they are buried. I'm
beginning to think that maybe they were "beamed up" by Scotty. They
were there, they did exist. But why can't I find any records of these
poor people. I know that they lived near 5th & Cross and 5th & Kater
Sts. at one time or another.

This is driving me batty. I've been looking for these people since
1976, and every avenue of research I've travelled has wound up as a dead
end. Now what?!!!!!!

TIA,
Ricki Randall Zunk
Miami, FL
<rickiz@...>

SEARCHING FOR:

COHAN/COPLIN/COPELAND/COPLAND - Lithuania (?); Phila., PA
FRIEDMAN - "Petrokov, near Kiev;" Brooklyn, NY
GROSS - Kozova, Galicia (now Ukraine)
KRAMER - The German speaking part of The Pale; Mt. Joy/Lancaster, PA;
Phila., PA; Catskills in NY
KURSON/CURSON/CARSON - Apa or Upa (near Riga), Latvia; Phila., PA;
Oklahoma; Texas
LEVINSKY/LEVINE/BIALAGORSKY - Minsk or Pinsk; Ontario Prov., CAN;
Phila., PA; Pittsburgh, PA
RENDELSTEIN/RANDALL - Kozova, Tarnopol, Dunayev, and Zborov, Galicia
(now Ukraine); greater NYC
area
SCHNEIDERMAN - "Petrokov, near Kiev;" Brooklyn, NY
--and--
EKMAN/FINKELSTEIN - Szumsk, Volhynia; Newark, NJ; Boston, MA
FEIGEL/FINKLE - Szumsk, Volhynia; Newark, NJ; Boston, MA
TROST - Hrubieszow, Poland; Newark, NJ; Brooklyn, NY; Israel
ZUNK - Arudlo (Horodlo), Poland; Newark, NJ
TABAK TABACK #general

Mike Ross <nister@...>
 

I am interested in hearing >from those with the subject surname and more
importantly what their names may have been changed from. I search for the
name TABACHOVITZ.

Mike Ross
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TABAK TABACK #general

Mike Ross <nister@...>
 

I am interested in hearing >from those with the subject surname and more
importantly what their names may have been changed from. I search for the
name TABACHOVITZ.

Mike Ross
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen PA Death Index? -- Also "Searching for..." #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

Thanks to all of you who wrote to tell me that the State of Pennsylvania
did not have a State census. Now I have another question -- Is there a
Death Index for the State of PA?

My problem is quite simple: I know my mggparents' approximate years of
death (+/- three years), but I cannot narrow down the time frame any
more than that right now. That means that my mggf died sometime between
the Summer of 1898 thru 1902, and my mggm died some time between
1928-1931. At least those are the times I think they died. I've tried
just about every resource I can think of to find any records of them. I
know they were in Philly in 1900, but I cannot find them in the 1900 US
census. I tired to find them in City Directories for Philly in that
era, but was not successful there either. I have a hunch that they were
both buried in Har Nebo Cemetery in NE Philly, but the people in the
cemetery office tell me that their records are not on computer, and they
are not about to go searching through their old ledgers to find
burials. So, what's next? I live in Miami, FL, so going to the various
resource locations in Philly is out.

All I want to know is where and when Hyman (Haskell) COHAN and his wife
Ida Raizel Levinsky COHAN arrived in Philly (probably some time between
1891-1895)(they're not on the Phila., or Baltimore passenger lists). I
want to know when they actually died, and where they are buried. I'm
beginning to think that maybe they were "beamed up" by Scotty. They
were there, they did exist. But why can't I find any records of these
poor people. I know that they lived near 5th & Cross and 5th & Kater
Sts. at one time or another.

This is driving me batty. I've been looking for these people since
1976, and every avenue of research I've travelled has wound up as a dead
end. Now what?!!!!!!

TIA,
Ricki Randall Zunk
Miami, FL
<rickiz@...>

SEARCHING FOR:

COHAN/COPLIN/COPELAND/COPLAND - Lithuania (?); Phila., PA
FRIEDMAN - "Petrokov, near Kiev;" Brooklyn, NY
GROSS - Kozova, Galicia (now Ukraine)
KRAMER - The German speaking part of The Pale; Mt. Joy/Lancaster, PA;
Phila., PA; Catskills in NY
KURSON/CURSON/CARSON - Apa or Upa (near Riga), Latvia; Phila., PA;
Oklahoma; Texas
LEVINSKY/LEVINE/BIALAGORSKY - Minsk or Pinsk; Ontario Prov., CAN;
Phila., PA; Pittsburgh, PA
RENDELSTEIN/RANDALL - Kozova, Tarnopol, Dunayev, and Zborov, Galicia
(now Ukraine); greater NYC
area
SCHNEIDERMAN - "Petrokov, near Kiev;" Brooklyn, NY
--and--
EKMAN/FINKELSTEIN - Szumsk, Volhynia; Newark, NJ; Boston, MA
FEIGEL/FINKLE - Szumsk, Volhynia; Newark, NJ; Boston, MA
TROST - Hrubieszow, Poland; Newark, NJ; Brooklyn, NY; Israel
ZUNK - Arudlo (Horodlo), Poland; Newark, NJ
LA Seminar #general

Sgirson@...
 

I've seen a few posting inquiring about the Jewish Genealogical Seminar in Los
Angeles. As an attendee at the seminar, here is a brief perspective >from my
viewpoint.

First of all, I find that these seminars continue to add to my genealogical
education. There were many positive program segments and kudos are to be
extended to Ted Gostin, his group and the cast of others who put this seminar
together.

from my standpoint, the highlight was the visit of Vitalija Gircyte, Chief
Archivist, Kaunas Regional Archives. In addition to hearing Vitalija's
presentation twice (also in Washington) I had the opportunity to have a
consultation and meet her personally.

Another important happening was the number of Special Interest Group and
birds-of-a-feather meetings. The bulletin board was loaded with meeting
notices and there seemed to be a get-together going during the time slots
between the formal program schedule. The three I attended were interesting
and informative.

Getting back to Ms. Gircyte. Her presentation was well prepared and she
displayed an excellent knowledge of archival research, especially that which
is related to the availability of documents in the Kaunas Archives; plus other
Lithuanian archives on a general basis. The hard copy Kaunas Archive catalog
she prepared is an excellent reference which includes a variety of record list
holdings in the archive. I didn't count the shtetls, but it seemed to cover a
lot of territory. The beauty of the catatlog is that it is a work in progress
as they are continually finding additional records.

During my consultation, Ms. Gircyte conveyed a friendly yet business like
approach. She is sincere and left me with a very positive feeling in that she
would do whatever she could by going that extra step to help in researching
and providing data on our jewish ancestors.

from my perspective, Ms. Gircyte was the headliner on the card along with
Theodore Bikel, although in different categories -- that's pretty good
company!

To the powers that be -- I would suggest that we continue to have presenters
from other archives on the program at future seminars. Nothing like getting
information direct >from the "archival source" to get a better idea of what
records may be out there.

Lastly, if the archivist is to tour some other cities during their trip, I
would suggest that it be publicized in advance to give others the opportunity
to hear the presentation. Perhaps, this can be done through the local
society, JEWISHGEN, LITVAK SIG, etc.

Sam Girson (Silver Spring, MD)
Sgirson@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LA Seminar #general

Sgirson@...
 

I've seen a few posting inquiring about the Jewish Genealogical Seminar in Los
Angeles. As an attendee at the seminar, here is a brief perspective >from my
viewpoint.

First of all, I find that these seminars continue to add to my genealogical
education. There were many positive program segments and kudos are to be
extended to Ted Gostin, his group and the cast of others who put this seminar
together.

from my standpoint, the highlight was the visit of Vitalija Gircyte, Chief
Archivist, Kaunas Regional Archives. In addition to hearing Vitalija's
presentation twice (also in Washington) I had the opportunity to have a
consultation and meet her personally.

Another important happening was the number of Special Interest Group and
birds-of-a-feather meetings. The bulletin board was loaded with meeting
notices and there seemed to be a get-together going during the time slots
between the formal program schedule. The three I attended were interesting
and informative.

Getting back to Ms. Gircyte. Her presentation was well prepared and she
displayed an excellent knowledge of archival research, especially that which
is related to the availability of documents in the Kaunas Archives; plus other
Lithuanian archives on a general basis. The hard copy Kaunas Archive catalog
she prepared is an excellent reference which includes a variety of record list
holdings in the archive. I didn't count the shtetls, but it seemed to cover a
lot of territory. The beauty of the catatlog is that it is a work in progress
as they are continually finding additional records.

During my consultation, Ms. Gircyte conveyed a friendly yet business like
approach. She is sincere and left me with a very positive feeling in that she
would do whatever she could by going that extra step to help in researching
and providing data on our jewish ancestors.

from my perspective, Ms. Gircyte was the headliner on the card along with
Theodore Bikel, although in different categories -- that's pretty good
company!

To the powers that be -- I would suggest that we continue to have presenters
from other archives on the program at future seminars. Nothing like getting
information direct >from the "archival source" to get a better idea of what
records may be out there.

Lastly, if the archivist is to tour some other cities during their trip, I
would suggest that it be publicized in advance to give others the opportunity
to hear the presentation. Perhaps, this can be done through the local
society, JEWISHGEN, LITVAK SIG, etc.

Sam Girson (Silver Spring, MD)
Sgirson@...
Credit should go to where credit is due! #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Roni Liebowitz <Ronisl@...> writes:

I'm having computer problems or I would have written about the wonderful
JewishGen Convention in LA ! I can't stay on this computer for long so I'll
just say that those who could not make it, please plan to attend the one in
New York next summer. There's something for everyone -- beginners and experts
and it's such fun meeting e-mail friends!!<<

It's always great to be appreciated, but in this case, we need to
clarify...The recent gathering in Los Angeles was not a JewishGen
project, but rather the hard work of the Jewish Genealogical
Society of Los Angeles, and it is to them we all direct our thanks
and appreciation. JewishGen, a completely separate organization
was merely part of the extensive list of presentors invited to
participate by the JGSLA.

We expect to be in New York when the 1999 seminar is hosted by
the JGSNY in August. See you all then!

Carol Skydell
JewishGen, Inc.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Credit should go to where credit is due! #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Roni Liebowitz <Ronisl@...> writes:

I'm having computer problems or I would have written about the wonderful
JewishGen Convention in LA ! I can't stay on this computer for long so I'll
just say that those who could not make it, please plan to attend the one in
New York next summer. There's something for everyone -- beginners and experts
and it's such fun meeting e-mail friends!!<<

It's always great to be appreciated, but in this case, we need to
clarify...The recent gathering in Los Angeles was not a JewishGen
project, but rather the hard work of the Jewish Genealogical
Society of Los Angeles, and it is to them we all direct our thanks
and appreciation. JewishGen, a completely separate organization
was merely part of the extensive list of presentors invited to
participate by the JGSLA.

We expect to be in New York when the 1999 seminar is hosted by
the JGSNY in August. See you all then!

Carol Skydell
JewishGen, Inc.
Re: Re : Rocks on tombstones #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 06:00:25, Alexander Serebrenik
<alicser@...> 'llowed:

 The explanation i heard here, in Israel, is that everything
 except rocks is mortal (f.e. flowers) - and only stones will
 remain forever. So does our memory...
 Best regards,
 Alexander

This is very poetic, but probably not historically meaningful.

In many cultures (including ours) it is considered a good deed to take
care of burial of the deceased, for very rational reasons. Placing a
stone (rock sounds a little ambitious) on a grave is an expression of
this good deed, even if the occupant of the grave has been there for
centuries; it is grave maintenance, in that case.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Researching:

from Lomza Gubernia in Russian Poland: Nowicki, Neimark.
from Dorohoi District in Romania: Hertanu, Abramovici, Lauer.
from Iasi in Romania: Grisaru, Vataru.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Re : Rocks on tombstones #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 06:00:25, Alexander Serebrenik
<alicser@...> 'llowed:

 The explanation i heard here, in Israel, is that everything
 except rocks is mortal (f.e. flowers) - and only stones will
 remain forever. So does our memory...
 Best regards,
 Alexander

This is very poetic, but probably not historically meaningful.

In many cultures (including ours) it is considered a good deed to take
care of burial of the deceased, for very rational reasons. Placing a
stone (rock sounds a little ambitious) on a grave is an expression of
this good deed, even if the occupant of the grave has been there for
centuries; it is grave maintenance, in that case.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Researching:

from Lomza Gubernia in Russian Poland: Nowicki, Neimark.
from Dorohoi District in Romania: Hertanu, Abramovici, Lauer.
from Iasi in Romania: Grisaru, Vataru.
Re: Origins of TEPPER, TOPPER, TOEPPFER, etc. #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 14:38:08, Unofficial Tepper Group ListOwner
<UTG.ListOwner@...> 'llowed:

 Hello all,

 I recently noticed (don't remember where, but I believe it was JewishGen)
 someone asked the origins of the name Tepermos - which was discovered to be
 a Yiddish pottering measure. I was wondering if anyone knows the origin of
 Tepper, Teper, etc., which I assume would be similar in some way to
 Tepermos.

Why is this difficult? German for 'pot' is 'topf', so that 'potter' is
'topfer' (with an umlaut over the 'o'). Yiddish is not very careful
with vowels, and certainly knows nothing about umlauts, so its
phonetic approximation is 'e'; it also routinely simplifies 'pf' to
'p'. That produces Tepper = Potter.

'Tepperman' is left as a home exercise.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Researching:

from Lomza Gubernia in Russian Poland: Nowicki, Neimark.
from Dorohoi District in Romania: Hertanu, Abramovici, Lauer.
from Iasi in Romania: Grisaru, Vataru.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Origins of TEPPER, TOPPER, TOEPPFER, etc. #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 14:38:08, Unofficial Tepper Group ListOwner
<UTG.ListOwner@...> 'llowed:

 Hello all,

 I recently noticed (don't remember where, but I believe it was JewishGen)
 someone asked the origins of the name Tepermos - which was discovered to be
 a Yiddish pottering measure. I was wondering if anyone knows the origin of
 Tepper, Teper, etc., which I assume would be similar in some way to
 Tepermos.

Why is this difficult? German for 'pot' is 'topf', so that 'potter' is
'topfer' (with an umlaut over the 'o'). Yiddish is not very careful
with vowels, and certainly knows nothing about umlauts, so its
phonetic approximation is 'e'; it also routinely simplifies 'pf' to
'p'. That produces Tepper = Potter.

'Tepperman' is left as a home exercise.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Researching:

from Lomza Gubernia in Russian Poland: Nowicki, Neimark.
from Dorohoi District in Romania: Hertanu, Abramovici, Lauer.
from Iasi in Romania: Grisaru, Vataru.
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