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Re: mezuza on angle #general

Stephen Rabinowitz <srabinow@...>
 

The compromise between vertical and horizontal is one explanation for the
angle of the mezuzah. There is another explanation. Some say that the
mezuzah was placed vertically until the Crusades in Europe, when hostile
locals started painting crossbars on peoples' mezuzahs to form a cross. To
thwart this, mezuzahs were placed at an angle. This was not done in Islamic
countries. In Israel today, some have used this explanation to resume
placing their mezuzahs vertically, since they have no concern that anyone
will desecrate them.

Steve Rabinowitz

MODERATOR NOTE: We've strayed too far >from geneaology folks. This
thread is ended.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: mezuza on angle #general

Stephen Rabinowitz <srabinow@...>
 

The compromise between vertical and horizontal is one explanation for the
angle of the mezuzah. There is another explanation. Some say that the
mezuzah was placed vertically until the Crusades in Europe, when hostile
locals started painting crossbars on peoples' mezuzahs to form a cross. To
thwart this, mezuzahs were placed at an angle. This was not done in Islamic
countries. In Israel today, some have used this explanation to resume
placing their mezuzahs vertically, since they have no concern that anyone
will desecrate them.

Steve Rabinowitz

MODERATOR NOTE: We've strayed too far >from geneaology folks. This
thread is ended.


Re: jri-pl digest: August 03, 1998 #poland

Josh Wander <josh@...>
 

I would like to know if anyone has any information about a city called
"Shetrvitz" in Galitzia or families called: Wander, Zwibel or Bratter. Thank
you! Josh Wander


JRI Poland #Poland Re: jri-pl digest: August 03, 1998 #poland

Josh Wander <josh@...>
 

I would like to know if anyone has any information about a city called
"Shetrvitz" in Galitzia or families called: Wander, Zwibel or Bratter. Thank
you! Josh Wander


Re: mezuza on angle #general

Nathan Reiss <reiss@...>
 

curwin@gezernet.co.il (curwin) writes:

While the posted question didn't seem to have anything to do with genealogy,
I think I can provide an answer with some connection to genealogy.
There was a disagreement between the Sages as to whether the mezuza
should be placed horizontally or vertically. As a compromise, it was placed
on an angle.
It should also be noted that, contrary to what was stated in the original
posting, not all mezuzas are placed at an angle. This is an Ashkenazi
custom. The Sephardi tradition is to place them vertically.

Nat Reiss
reiss@rci.rutgers.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: mezuza on angle #general

Nathan Reiss <reiss@...>
 

curwin@gezernet.co.il (curwin) writes:

While the posted question didn't seem to have anything to do with genealogy,
I think I can provide an answer with some connection to genealogy.
There was a disagreement between the Sages as to whether the mezuza
should be placed horizontally or vertically. As a compromise, it was placed
on an angle.
It should also be noted that, contrary to what was stated in the original
posting, not all mezuzas are placed at an angle. This is an Ashkenazi
custom. The Sephardi tradition is to place them vertically.

Nat Reiss
reiss@rci.rutgers.edu


ATTN: David & Shirley SHAPIRO-UC-SFO area #general

DREAME@...
 

Hi, JewishGenners, can you help?

We recently returned >from a riverboat cruise through
Ukraine and we were asked by JOSEPH SHAPIRO of Kanev, Ukraine, if
we would post a message to DAVID and SHIRLEY SHAPIRO of the San
Francisco area, whom someone may know, as David is connected with
the University of California and may be a member of JGS....

JOSEPH SHAPIRO was born Poldilskaya, November 12,
1921. He said that he WAS in touch David and Shirley Shapiro, and
then all letters stopped. He would very much like to connect with
them again. He mentioned an "agency - HARCO", but I have no idea
if it has any connection. I have a photograph of him and his full
address.

Email Shirley R. Rose directly :
Dreame@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ATTN: David & Shirley SHAPIRO-UC-SFO area #general

DREAME@...
 

Hi, JewishGenners, can you help?

We recently returned >from a riverboat cruise through
Ukraine and we were asked by JOSEPH SHAPIRO of Kanev, Ukraine, if
we would post a message to DAVID and SHIRLEY SHAPIRO of the San
Francisco area, whom someone may know, as David is connected with
the University of California and may be a member of JGS....

JOSEPH SHAPIRO was born Poldilskaya, November 12,
1921. He said that he WAS in touch David and Shirley Shapiro, and
then all letters stopped. He would very much like to connect with
them again. He mentioned an "agency - HARCO", but I have no idea
if it has any connection. I have a photograph of him and his full
address.

Email Shirley R. Rose directly :
Dreame@aol.com


[Fwd: new "Success Stories" button on JRI-Poland web site] #poland

Steven A. Zedeck <saz@...>
 

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Hi all:
I just added a new button on the main page of the JRI-Poland
web site (http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl).

The button is entitled "Success Stories".
This links to a page that contains many success stories
people have written to me or others on the JRI board.

Have a look. If you have a success story, feel free to
either post it to this list or email it to me.

We enjoy reading these as it shows that we are doing
the right thing and we are helping many people in their
research.

Thanks,
Steve
JRI-Poland Web Master
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* Steven A. Zedeck Internet: saz@JLC.net *
* 25 Cathedral Circle, Nashua, NH 03063 saz@compuserve.com *
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JRI Poland #Poland [Fwd: new "Success Stories" button on JRI-Poland web site] #poland

Steven A. Zedeck <saz@...>
 

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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 22:23:13 -0400
From: "Steven A. Zedeck" <saz@jlc.net>
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Subject: new "Success Stories" button on JRI-Poland web site
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Hi all:
I just added a new button on the main page of the JRI-Poland
web site (http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl).

The button is entitled "Success Stories".
This links to a page that contains many success stories
people have written to me or others on the JRI board.

Have a look. If you have a success story, feel free to
either post it to this list or email it to me.

We enjoy reading these as it shows that we are doing
the right thing and we are helping many people in their
research.

Thanks,
Steve
JRI-Poland Web Master
--
* Steven A. Zedeck Internet: saz@JLC.net *
* 25 Cathedral Circle, Nashua, NH 03063 saz@compuserve.com *
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Belarus Roots #belarus

Michael Fener
 

Hello my name is Michael, and this is a summary of my Belarus ancestors:

My Maternal Grandmother's parents are supposed to have been >from Minska
Gobernia.

My G-Grandmother, Rose (Ruchel) KULIK was said to have been born during
1883 in Vselyub outside of Novogrudok. Her parents were Samuel KULIK and
Geyla Zelda BASHNIK. Samuel's parents were Abraham Lev KULIK and Bessie
(Peshe) BELLSKY. Abraham's father was Samuel KULIK.

My G-Grandfather Barnett (Beryl) GOLDBERG was said to have been born in
1875 in Korelichi outside of Novogrudok. His parents were Joseph GOLDBERG
and Bessie (Chana Belle) COHEN.

My G-Grandparents both came to America. So the information on my
G-G-Grandparents is based on what they told my Grandmother as well as info
reported on various documents. The info on my G-Grandmother's ancestors,
which goes back several more generations is based on word of mouth only. I
have not seen documents >from "over there", although I have not concentrated
on these branches just yet. I DO rely on the "word of mouth" info, due to
the fact that Rose's grandfather lived to be 104 and my grandmother's
oldest brother (who was born there) met him as a very young boy.
Unfortunately my grandmother's two older brothers passed away several years
ago so I have lost the opportunity to question them. Rose had an interest
in family history so that also (in my opinion) lends some credibility to
her information's accuracy in terms of names. I think that the dates are
less reliable.

I recently located another branch of KULIKs in California who are descended
from Itzchok KULIK, my G-Grandmother's older brother. Itchok's two living
offspring do vaguely recall hearing the same tree being verbally recounted
while they were children in New York.

If anyone has seen or heard of any of these names before I would be happy
to hear >from you.

Regards,
Michael



Michael Fener
New York, USA
mfener@ix.netcom.com

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Searching
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FENER - Hungary
FULEP/(FULOP) - Hungary
WEISS/(WEISZ) - Hungary
MARGULIES/(MARGOLIS) - Galicia
MICHAELSON/(MICHALOFSKY) - Russia
KULIK/KULIC/KULICK - Russia
BASHNICK - Russia


Belarus SIG #Belarus Belarus Roots #belarus

Michael Fener
 

Hello my name is Michael, and this is a summary of my Belarus ancestors:

My Maternal Grandmother's parents are supposed to have been >from Minska
Gobernia.

My G-Grandmother, Rose (Ruchel) KULIK was said to have been born during
1883 in Vselyub outside of Novogrudok. Her parents were Samuel KULIK and
Geyla Zelda BASHNIK. Samuel's parents were Abraham Lev KULIK and Bessie
(Peshe) BELLSKY. Abraham's father was Samuel KULIK.

My G-Grandfather Barnett (Beryl) GOLDBERG was said to have been born in
1875 in Korelichi outside of Novogrudok. His parents were Joseph GOLDBERG
and Bessie (Chana Belle) COHEN.

My G-Grandparents both came to America. So the information on my
G-G-Grandparents is based on what they told my Grandmother as well as info
reported on various documents. The info on my G-Grandmother's ancestors,
which goes back several more generations is based on word of mouth only. I
have not seen documents >from "over there", although I have not concentrated
on these branches just yet. I DO rely on the "word of mouth" info, due to
the fact that Rose's grandfather lived to be 104 and my grandmother's
oldest brother (who was born there) met him as a very young boy.
Unfortunately my grandmother's two older brothers passed away several years
ago so I have lost the opportunity to question them. Rose had an interest
in family history so that also (in my opinion) lends some credibility to
her information's accuracy in terms of names. I think that the dates are
less reliable.

I recently located another branch of KULIKs in California who are descended
from Itzchok KULIK, my G-Grandmother's older brother. Itchok's two living
offspring do vaguely recall hearing the same tree being verbally recounted
while they were children in New York.

If anyone has seen or heard of any of these names before I would be happy
to hear >from you.

Regards,
Michael



Michael Fener
New York, USA
mfener@ix.netcom.com

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Searching
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FENER - Hungary
FULEP/(FULOP) - Hungary
WEISS/(WEISZ) - Hungary
MARGULIES/(MARGOLIS) - Galicia
MICHAELSON/(MICHALOFSKY) - Russia
KULIK/KULIC/KULICK - Russia
BASHNICK - Russia


Researching LEVIN & CHOMSKY family from Grodno... #general

Gail Dechter <marvgailsarah@...>
 

I am new to researching my family & would appreciate any info you might
be able to give me . My father, Irving (Isak) Levin, & his family
immigrated >from Grudno to Ellis Island, in approximately 1915 to 1917.
My grandmother, Sonya (Chomsky) Levin, died shortly upon arrival during
childbirth. I believe she is buried in the Montefiore cemetery in NY.
My grandfather, Max Levin & the family moved to Chicago about a year
later. I would like info regarding my grandmother & the Chomsky family.
I would also appreciate any info on Grudno, & ships & passenger lists
sailing >from the area in that time frame.

Thank you in advance
for your help!
Gail.....

MODERATOR NOTE: Passenger manifest >from that time frame are a gold
mine of information. To find out how to get started with your
research, visit the JewishGen homepage, http://www.jewishgen.org
click on the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) and print it out!
The FAQ is a primer on how to do research and it will guide you
to finding records, particularly in the U.S.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researching LEVIN & CHOMSKY family from Grodno... #general

Gail Dechter <marvgailsarah@...>
 

I am new to researching my family & would appreciate any info you might
be able to give me . My father, Irving (Isak) Levin, & his family
immigrated >from Grudno to Ellis Island, in approximately 1915 to 1917.
My grandmother, Sonya (Chomsky) Levin, died shortly upon arrival during
childbirth. I believe she is buried in the Montefiore cemetery in NY.
My grandfather, Max Levin & the family moved to Chicago about a year
later. I would like info regarding my grandmother & the Chomsky family.
I would also appreciate any info on Grudno, & ships & passenger lists
sailing >from the area in that time frame.

Thank you in advance
for your help!
Gail.....

MODERATOR NOTE: Passenger manifest >from that time frame are a gold
mine of information. To find out how to get started with your
research, visit the JewishGen homepage, http://www.jewishgen.org
click on the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) and print it out!
The FAQ is a primer on how to do research and it will guide you
to finding records, particularly in the U.S.


Re: TABAK TABACK #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-08-04 16:53:00 EDT, nister@cygnus.uwa.edu.au writes:

<< I am interested in hearing >from those with the subject surname and more
importantly what their names may have been changed from. I search for the
name TABACHOVITZ. >>

They were all probably tobacco merchants. My wife's British family had a
Tomback relative. Tabachnik is probably another alternative


Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

Bernet: >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nürnberg, Hirschaid, (Bavaria)
Königshöfer: >from Welbhausen, Königshofen, Fürth (S. Germany)
Altmann: >from Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan (Posen), Beuthen
(Bytom)--Upper Silesia/Poland
Wolf(f): >from Fürth, Nurnberg, Augsburg, Frankfurt (S Germany),
Rotterdam

Wolf, Sali (Salomon?) of Rotterdam, murdered by Dr. Petiot in Paris ca 1942
Weil(l), Albert, French hon. consul in Nurnberg, Germany; returned to
France 1936/7. Daughters Alice & Yvonne, b ca 1920), his mother was a Bernet
Bernet, Albert, b. 1896/7, soldier in German Army (>from Nurnberg), killed
near Lille, 1915


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: TABAK TABACK #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-08-04 16:53:00 EDT, nister@cygnus.uwa.edu.au writes:

<< I am interested in hearing >from those with the subject surname and more
importantly what their names may have been changed from. I search for the
name TABACHOVITZ. >>

They were all probably tobacco merchants. My wife's British family had a
Tomback relative. Tabachnik is probably another alternative


Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

Bernet: >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nürnberg, Hirschaid, (Bavaria)
Königshöfer: >from Welbhausen, Königshofen, Fürth (S. Germany)
Altmann: >from Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan (Posen), Beuthen
(Bytom)--Upper Silesia/Poland
Wolf(f): >from Fürth, Nurnberg, Augsburg, Frankfurt (S Germany),
Rotterdam

Wolf, Sali (Salomon?) of Rotterdam, murdered by Dr. Petiot in Paris ca 1942
Weil(l), Albert, French hon. consul in Nurnberg, Germany; returned to
France 1936/7. Daughters Alice & Yvonne, b ca 1920), his mother was a Bernet
Bernet, Albert, b. 1896/7, soldier in German Army (>from Nurnberg), killed
near Lille, 1915


no messages yesterday #hungary

Dennis Baer <dbaer@...>
 

Hello

I have not seen any HSIG messages for the last day. Did I lose my
subscription? If I did please reinstate it.

Thank you.

Dennis Baer


on Bibliographies in general #hungary

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

It's really exciting to see the sharing of information as folks post book
titles that can be of help to researchers in specific areas. In addition
to posting in your own SIG digests, it would be most helpful to all
JewishGenners if you also added the names of books and a brief descriptor
about their contents to the JewishGen Interactive Publications Database.

from our homepage http://www.jewishgen.org, scroll down to SHARE/CONTRIBUTE
- Participatory Projects and Activities and click on Publications.

Thanks for your cooperation
Carol Skydell
JewishGen Support Team


Jewish communities in Hungary no.5. #hungary

Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
 

Hello everybody! :-)

Works on individual Jewish communities are often full of genealogical
data. I have been compiling a bibliography of works on this topic. This
bibliography is far >from completed, yet it might be of help to researchers of
families >from those communities.

In the third installment, I am sending works that cover individual communities >from
countries which used to be part of historical Hungary >from E to Gy.

E

Eger, Erlau
Arthur Ehrenfeld Egri zsidsk. Jerusalem, 1975

Eperjes, Presov
M. Atlas Geschichte der J|dische Gemeinede von Presov. In:Zeitschrift f|r die
Geschichte der Juden.. IV. 1967.

Esztergom
Ortutay Andras Az esztergomi-szenttamasi zsidssag tvrtinete a bazilika
ipmtise idejin. In: Egyhazak a valtozs vilagban. Esztergom, 1991
Ortutay Andras Az esztergomi is Esztergom varmegyei zsidssag tvrtinete a
kezdetektul...Limes 1991.1. 1991

Etyek
Erdus Ferenc Kereskedu csaladok Etyeken a XIX. szazad masodik feliben.
In: Zsidsk Fejir megyiben... Szikesfehirvar, 1989

F

Fehirgyarmat -Gyarmat
J.Blasz Ayavateynu lesheavar Fehergyarmat Bnei Brak, 1965

Fvldes
Karacs Zsigmond Keresztinyek is zsidsk Fvldesen. In: MIOK Ivkvnyv.
1985-1991. Budapest, 1991

GY

Gyur, Raab
A gyuri martmrok emlikezetire kiadot f|zet Haifa, i.n.
Doman Istvan A gyuri izraelita hitkvzsig tvrtinete. Budapest, 1979
Benjamin Frishman Emlikalbum a gyuri zsidskrsl. 1989
Chana Spiegel Lezecher kedoshei Gyur
Keminy Jszsef Vazlatok a gyuri zsidssag tvrtinetibul. Gyur1930.
Gyulafehirvar-Alba Julia
Matthias (Matyas) Eisler Das Gemeindebuch von Alba Julia. In: Sinai, I
Bucuresti, 1928
Matthias (Matyas) Eisler Aus dem Gemeindleben der Juden in Alba Julia im
XVIII Jahrhundert. In: Sinai, II Bucuresti, 1929
Matthias (Matyas) Eisler Aus dem Privatleben der Juden von Siebenb|rgen
im XVIII Jahrhundert. In: Sinai, III Bucuresti, 1931


--
Ujlaki.Gyorgy@drotposta.hu
Researching: Wurm, Hollander, Konigstein, Fein, Pollak, Reich, Barany, Cucak,
Drach, Purjesz, Porges/z, Porjes/z, Bischitz, Goldschmied, Iritz


Hello??? Anyone there?? #hungary

Margarita <uzidog@...>
 

I'm not getting any messages since Friday, July 31.

Is there a problem or is it me?
Please answer to my e-mail because I think I won't even see this message.
Thank you

Margarita Lacks
Belgrano
uzidog@post1.com