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Re: 1919 Pogram Victim List? #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

fyi, another source...
A search of the
JewishGen Discussion Group Archives
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop
shows these results...

Search results for "pogrom"
(>from Sep 93 to Jul 98)
Number of hits: 105
Run on Wednesday 12 August 1998 at 22:29:54

Search results for "pogrom 1919"
(>from Sep 93 to Jul 98)
Number of hits: 8
Run on Wednesday 12 August 1998 at 22:40:15
--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<koosh@...>

Milton Blackstone wrote:


Having recently seen several references to the 1919 Pograms, led me to
wonder if any listings of victims exist, as well as other information
i.e. locations, dates, etc. I have been trying learn if my GF, whose
tombstone cites his death as 9 March 1919, might have been as a result
of a pogram.
I'd also be grateful for any literary references I might peruse if > > such information exists.
Milton Blackstone
milton@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1919 Pogram Victim List? #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

fyi, another source...
A search of the
JewishGen Discussion Group Archives
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop
shows these results...

Search results for "pogrom"
(>from Sep 93 to Jul 98)
Number of hits: 105
Run on Wednesday 12 August 1998 at 22:29:54

Search results for "pogrom 1919"
(>from Sep 93 to Jul 98)
Number of hits: 8
Run on Wednesday 12 August 1998 at 22:40:15
--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<koosh@...>

Milton Blackstone wrote:


Having recently seen several references to the 1919 Pograms, led me to
wonder if any listings of victims exist, as well as other information
i.e. locations, dates, etc. I have been trying learn if my GF, whose
tombstone cites his death as 9 March 1919, might have been as a result
of a pogram.
I'd also be grateful for any literary references I might peruse if > > such information exists.
Milton Blackstone
milton@...


Searching: Bidlovsky family Stopnica , Poland #general

Ofeldman <ofeldman@...>
 

Hi
Seeking information on BIDLOVSKY family based in Stopnica , Kilece , Poland

Al Fishman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Bidlovsky family Stopnica , Poland #general

Ofeldman <ofeldman@...>
 

Hi
Seeking information on BIDLOVSKY family based in Stopnica , Kilece , Poland

Al Fishman


Re: Hebrew lettering #general

MMS <mms@...>
 

ari@... wrote:

Ruchal--Resh, Chet, Lamed
Lea--Lamed, Alef, Heh
Gittel--Gimmel, Yud, Tes, Lamed
Meyer--Mem, Yud, Alef, Resh
I would suggest: Mem, Alef, Yud, Resh; (like Me'yr)

The name Toba (girl's name) is spelled Tes, Vav, Bes, Heh.
Tova (Hebrew)= Gitel (Yiddish)


Moshe Shavit - Israel
mms@...
Searching: KATZ, WAGER >from Davidgrodek, now Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hebrew lettering #general

MMS <mms@...>
 

ari@... wrote:

Ruchal--Resh, Chet, Lamed
Lea--Lamed, Alef, Heh
Gittel--Gimmel, Yud, Tes, Lamed
Meyer--Mem, Yud, Alef, Resh
I would suggest: Mem, Alef, Yud, Resh; (like Me'yr)

The name Toba (girl's name) is spelled Tes, Vav, Bes, Heh.
Tova (Hebrew)= Gitel (Yiddish)


Moshe Shavit - Israel
mms@...
Searching: KATZ, WAGER >from Davidgrodek, now Belarus


Re: SPIRO #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-08-13 20:32:10 EDT, tutsingen@... writes:

<< I have always wondered whether there is a connection between the
fairly common Jewish surname of SPIRO and the very common Greek first
name of Spiro. I know, mainly >from the archives, that the Jewish SPIRO
is somehow connected to SHAPIRO and other variations. I also know
that the Greek Spiro is a diminutive of Spiridion. >>

=The consensus seems is that Shapiro etc is derived >from the city of Speyer, in Germany. The name Dreyfus or Treyfus is derived >from Treves/Trier; Halpern/Halperin >from Heilbronn, Mintz >from Mainz/Mayence. All four were in the same region, important centers of Jewish life and learning in the middle ages. Their scholars were in great demand and it was natural that when they settled in a new town--anywhere in Europe--they were treated with special respect because of their geographical connection. It is possible that not all the Spiros etc. came >from Speyer but that they satisfied their respect for the leader by assuming his name/early geographic center. Thus not all SotmarerHassidim come form Soto Mare, not all Bobovers >from Bobov, nor all Spiros >from Speyer. . . .

In Israel, many Shapiros etc. have Hebraized their names to Shapir or Even
Shapir--a precious stone, a sapphire. Of course someone Hope this helps.

Michael Bernet

seeking:
BERNET: >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, Hirschaid, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: >from Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: >from Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan (Posen), Beuthen
(Bytom)--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): >from Furth, Nurnberg, Wurzburg, Frankfurt (S Germany),
Rotterdam


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SPIRO #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-08-13 20:32:10 EDT, tutsingen@... writes:

<< I have always wondered whether there is a connection between the
fairly common Jewish surname of SPIRO and the very common Greek first
name of Spiro. I know, mainly >from the archives, that the Jewish SPIRO
is somehow connected to SHAPIRO and other variations. I also know
that the Greek Spiro is a diminutive of Spiridion. >>

=The consensus seems is that Shapiro etc is derived >from the city of Speyer, in Germany. The name Dreyfus or Treyfus is derived >from Treves/Trier; Halpern/Halperin >from Heilbronn, Mintz >from Mainz/Mayence. All four were in the same region, important centers of Jewish life and learning in the middle ages. Their scholars were in great demand and it was natural that when they settled in a new town--anywhere in Europe--they were treated with special respect because of their geographical connection. It is possible that not all the Spiros etc. came >from Speyer but that they satisfied their respect for the leader by assuming his name/early geographic center. Thus not all SotmarerHassidim come form Soto Mare, not all Bobovers >from Bobov, nor all Spiros >from Speyer. . . .

In Israel, many Shapiros etc. have Hebraized their names to Shapir or Even
Shapir--a precious stone, a sapphire. Of course someone Hope this helps.

Michael Bernet

seeking:
BERNET: >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, Hirschaid, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: >from Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: >from Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan (Posen), Beuthen
(Bytom)--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): >from Furth, Nurnberg, Wurzburg, Frankfurt (S Germany),
Rotterdam


Confused by Revision list postings [1] #lithuania

Mort & Esther Cohen <cohen@...>
 

On (10 Aug 98) this message and reply were posted:



Subject: Re: Vilkomir District Revision Lists
From: <DBH12345@...>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:20:49 EDT
X-Message-Number: 7

In a message dated 8/10/98 12:22:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
szome@... writes:

<< Has anyone seen revision lists for Vilkomir District for 1874,1879?
These are listed in Mr. Rhode's book on Lithuanian archive holdings. I
would like to research the pages for Podzelva, Vilkomir District. I
look forward to the 1858 Vilkomir District Revision List going online,
but the lists for the 1870's would be more useful for my genealogical
purposes.

Steven Weiss
Chicago
>>

Dear Steve,
We don't have the 1874 or 1879 Vilkomir Revision Lists, but the
Vilkomir Uyezd Research group of the LitvakSIG has acquired the
1858 Revision List. For those of you who are not yet a part of our
Vilkomir District research group, I am using this as an opportunity
to restate what these lists include, and ask for further support.

<snip>

The Vilkomir Revision Lists separately list merchants, inhabitants
and craftsmen, and provide a lot of information about what happened
to each person since the last revision List in 1850 and for a
seventeen year period until the next revision list (1876).

Here is where I get confused :-)
How does an 1858 revision list provide data for a 17 year period -
till 1876. Was the 1858 Revision list actually closed in 1876,
making it an 1876 revision of the 1858 list?

Add to my confusion was this Aug 11 post:

Subject: Vilkomir District Revision Lists
From: Ada Greenblatt <ada.Greenblatt@...>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:00:53 +0000
X-Message-Number: 4

On 8/10/98 Steven Weiss <szome@...> wrote:

Has anyone seen revision lists for Vilkomir District for 1874,1879?
<snip>
And and Ada Greenblatt commented:

In a letter dated 1 August 1995 >from the Lithuanian State Historic
Archives, chief archivist Galina Baranova wrote:
"The archives keeps some Revision lists of the residents of Jewish
communities of the Vilkomir district for the 19th century.
Revision lists for the year 1858 are more complete."
And again on 21 August 1995, Galina wrote:
"I have looked through all revision lists of residents of Seta,
including 1858-1859, 1874, 1878-1880, 1893-1894. I have looked
through all Jewish communities of the Vilkomir district for the
year 1858. These revision lists are more complete. Another
revision lists are additional revision lists."
Thus the decision of the SIG's Vilkomir Uyezd Research group to
concentrate their resources on the 1858 Vilkomir district list was
a wise one because it is the most complete, as opposed to the
additional revision lists of later years.
<snip>

Without arguing the SIGs decision to focus on the 1858 list (which
I gather was actually closed in 1876); (1) what are the
corresponding information dates included in the later Revision
lists?, (2) What is the fee for individual requests to the archives
for searches of these later less complete lists? and (3)Is data so
sparse in the later lists as to make success unlikely?

Forgive me if everyone else already understands this.

Mort Cohen, Rochester NY USA
(cohen@...)


--


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Confused by Revision list postings [1] #lithuania

Mort & Esther Cohen <cohen@...>
 

On (10 Aug 98) this message and reply were posted:



Subject: Re: Vilkomir District Revision Lists
From: <DBH12345@...>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:20:49 EDT
X-Message-Number: 7

In a message dated 8/10/98 12:22:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
szome@... writes:

<< Has anyone seen revision lists for Vilkomir District for 1874,1879?
These are listed in Mr. Rhode's book on Lithuanian archive holdings. I
would like to research the pages for Podzelva, Vilkomir District. I
look forward to the 1858 Vilkomir District Revision List going online,
but the lists for the 1870's would be more useful for my genealogical
purposes.

Steven Weiss
Chicago
>>

Dear Steve,
We don't have the 1874 or 1879 Vilkomir Revision Lists, but the
Vilkomir Uyezd Research group of the LitvakSIG has acquired the
1858 Revision List. For those of you who are not yet a part of our
Vilkomir District research group, I am using this as an opportunity
to restate what these lists include, and ask for further support.

<snip>

The Vilkomir Revision Lists separately list merchants, inhabitants
and craftsmen, and provide a lot of information about what happened
to each person since the last revision List in 1850 and for a
seventeen year period until the next revision list (1876).

Here is where I get confused :-)
How does an 1858 revision list provide data for a 17 year period -
till 1876. Was the 1858 Revision list actually closed in 1876,
making it an 1876 revision of the 1858 list?

Add to my confusion was this Aug 11 post:

Subject: Vilkomir District Revision Lists
From: Ada Greenblatt <ada.Greenblatt@...>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:00:53 +0000
X-Message-Number: 4

On 8/10/98 Steven Weiss <szome@...> wrote:

Has anyone seen revision lists for Vilkomir District for 1874,1879?
<snip>
And and Ada Greenblatt commented:

In a letter dated 1 August 1995 >from the Lithuanian State Historic
Archives, chief archivist Galina Baranova wrote:
"The archives keeps some Revision lists of the residents of Jewish
communities of the Vilkomir district for the 19th century.
Revision lists for the year 1858 are more complete."
And again on 21 August 1995, Galina wrote:
"I have looked through all revision lists of residents of Seta,
including 1858-1859, 1874, 1878-1880, 1893-1894. I have looked
through all Jewish communities of the Vilkomir district for the
year 1858. These revision lists are more complete. Another
revision lists are additional revision lists."
Thus the decision of the SIG's Vilkomir Uyezd Research group to
concentrate their resources on the 1858 Vilkomir district list was
a wise one because it is the most complete, as opposed to the
additional revision lists of later years.
<snip>

Without arguing the SIGs decision to focus on the 1858 list (which
I gather was actually closed in 1876); (1) what are the
corresponding information dates included in the later Revision
lists?, (2) What is the fee for individual requests to the archives
for searches of these later less complete lists? and (3)Is data so
sparse in the later lists as to make success unlikely?

Forgive me if everyone else already understands this.

Mort Cohen, Rochester NY USA
(cohen@...)


--


Biographical Archives fiche sets #general

Gary Luke <feraltek@...>
 

I have a brochure >from 1995 >from Saur Verlag of Germany, with distribution
by Thorpe in Australia and NZ, others for USA, and UK. It gives brief
descriptions of very expensive sets of fiche. eg - The Jewish Biographical
Archive is a collection of biographies >from biblical times to mid-20th
century. 650 fiche for $20,000. The Polish set runs >from early 17th c. to
approx 1945, 550 fiche @ $16k, with biographies >from 150 various old
references. There are sets for Italy, Germany, Spanish, American, British,
Czechoslovakian, and a few others. Some have proposed publication in a
couple of years >from then, 1995.

Does anyone know whether these were all published, and if so, are copies
avalable anywhere for viewing?

Gary
Gary Luke feraltek@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Biographical Archives fiche sets #general

Gary Luke <feraltek@...>
 

I have a brochure >from 1995 >from Saur Verlag of Germany, with distribution
by Thorpe in Australia and NZ, others for USA, and UK. It gives brief
descriptions of very expensive sets of fiche. eg - The Jewish Biographical
Archive is a collection of biographies >from biblical times to mid-20th
century. 650 fiche for $20,000. The Polish set runs >from early 17th c. to
approx 1945, 550 fiche @ $16k, with biographies >from 150 various old
references. There are sets for Italy, Germany, Spanish, American, British,
Czechoslovakian, and a few others. Some have proposed publication in a
couple of years >from then, 1995.

Does anyone know whether these were all published, and if so, are copies
avalable anywhere for viewing?

Gary
Gary Luke feraltek@...


Telechan & Lohishin #general

Arthur Eisenberg <ae9h@...>
 

There have been a couple of postings about these places since the advent
of the Belarus SIG.
WHERE ONCE WE WALK lists them as different names for the same place.
This is not accurate.
Telechan is at 52 31'/25 59'
Lohishin is at 52 20'/ 25 59'

Gary Mokotoff has assured me that this will be corrected some time in the
future.

Arthur Eisenberg
Newton Ma
ae9h@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Telechan & Lohishin #general

Arthur Eisenberg <ae9h@...>
 

There have been a couple of postings about these places since the advent
of the Belarus SIG.
WHERE ONCE WE WALK lists them as different names for the same place.
This is not accurate.
Telechan is at 52 31'/25 59'
Lohishin is at 52 20'/ 25 59'

Gary Mokotoff has assured me that this will be corrected some time in the
future.

Arthur Eisenberg
Newton Ma
ae9h@...


Searching HAAS #general

Richard H Henley <rhenley1@...>
 

Looking for news about Joseph Haas who emigrated to the USA from
Switzerland about 1850-1860. Settled in New London, CT and married
Katherine Hamel. They had about 8 children and he may have worked as a
baker. I believe he died about 1932 in Sharon, Massachusetts.
Richard H Henley


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching HAAS #general

Richard H Henley <rhenley1@...>
 

Looking for news about Joseph Haas who emigrated to the USA from
Switzerland about 1850-1860. Settled in New London, CT and married
Katherine Hamel. They had about 8 children and he may have worked as a
baker. I believe he died about 1932 in Sharon, Massachusetts.
Richard H Henley


Re: Abrahamson #general

Glynne
 

In the Summer 1998 edition of "Avotaynu" there was article on "Jewish Colonists
in Ekaterinoslav Guberniya" regarding RAGAS Report Vol. IV, 1 which has a
listing of surnames of the Jewish Colonists for New-Zlatopol and other
colonies. I wrote an e-mail to the RAGAS Report asking how to get a copy and
haven't heard >from them yet. Does anyone have a copy of the actual RAGAS
article.

Gay Lynne Kegan
Palm Desert, CA
Gay Lynne Kegan
Searching:HOFFENBERG, Josvainiai, Lithuania OWSIANKA Nasielsk Poland,
GOMER/GAMMER Chudnov, Urkaine KAGAN Novozlatopol Ukraine


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Abrahamson #general

Glynne
 

In the Summer 1998 edition of "Avotaynu" there was article on "Jewish Colonists
in Ekaterinoslav Guberniya" regarding RAGAS Report Vol. IV, 1 which has a
listing of surnames of the Jewish Colonists for New-Zlatopol and other
colonies. I wrote an e-mail to the RAGAS Report asking how to get a copy and
haven't heard >from them yet. Does anyone have a copy of the actual RAGAS
article.

Gay Lynne Kegan
Palm Desert, CA
Gay Lynne Kegan
Searching:HOFFENBERG, Josvainiai, Lithuania OWSIANKA Nasielsk Poland,
GOMER/GAMMER Chudnov, Urkaine KAGAN Novozlatopol Ukraine


Re: first name Rudy? #general

Linda Laporte <lindal@...>
 

Hi the name Rudy is indeed Rudolph but also spelled Rudolf.  Just for your
information. Linda Laporte

Alexander Sharon wrote:

M. Kearns <mkearns@u.washington.edu>.
Can someone tell me what the first name Rudy is short for, and maybe what
its Hebrew equivalent may be (I knoow there is no "equivalent", but
what's most common)?

thanks,

Megan Kearns
Seattle
Rudy (or Rudek) used to be very popular abbreviation for Rudolph.

Alexander Sharon


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: first name Rudy? #general

Linda Laporte <lindal@...>
 

Hi the name Rudy is indeed Rudolph but also spelled Rudolf.  Just for your
information. Linda Laporte

Alexander Sharon wrote:

M. Kearns <mkearns@u.washington.edu>.
Can someone tell me what the first name Rudy is short for, and maybe what
its Hebrew equivalent may be (I knoow there is no "equivalent", but
what's most common)?

thanks,

Megan Kearns
Seattle
Rudy (or Rudek) used to be very popular abbreviation for Rudolph.

Alexander Sharon