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valerie gold #general

sam corwin <scorwin@...>
 

In a recent posting regarding POWs', Valerie Gold
mentioned her uncle's five year internment at a POW
camp and his name change.
All military personnel had "dog tags" and were
required to wear them at all times. They were
stamped with name, ID numer and religious
preference. (C,H,P ). Her uncle must have swapped
his dog tags with perhaps a dead man to assume his
identity,for an H stamped on a dog tag would have
meant many things to a man about to be captured. The
dead person would be listed as Missing in Action
unless he was found with her uncle's dog tags on
him. Then her uncle would have been listed as Killed
in Action.
I don't know if this deals with geneology for I
would have sent it to Valerie if she had posted a
return Email address.

Sam Corwin
scorwin@alaska.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen valerie gold #general

sam corwin <scorwin@...>
 

In a recent posting regarding POWs', Valerie Gold
mentioned her uncle's five year internment at a POW
camp and his name change.
All military personnel had "dog tags" and were
required to wear them at all times. They were
stamped with name, ID numer and religious
preference. (C,H,P ). Her uncle must have swapped
his dog tags with perhaps a dead man to assume his
identity,for an H stamped on a dog tag would have
meant many things to a man about to be captured. The
dead person would be listed as Missing in Action
unless he was found with her uncle's dog tags on
him. Then her uncle would have been listed as Killed
in Action.
I don't know if this deals with geneology for I
would have sent it to Valerie if she had posted a
return Email address.

Sam Corwin
scorwin@alaska.net


Congregation Shari Tefila in NYC/Brooklyn #general

David Gardner <dgard@...>
 

I have recently found out that my GGrandfather was buried in Montefiore
Cemtery in NY in 1934. The gentleman at the cemetery was kind enough to
tell me that the Hungarian-Austrian Congregation of Shari Tefila had
some role in the burial. Does this congregation still exist? Does anyone
have any information about it? It would be probably be in New York
County or Kings County.

Any help would be appreciated.



David Gardner M.D. Ph.D.
dgard@earthlink.net
K6LPL

Searching
Franzblau>Galicia>NY,NJ,
Kerber>?>NJ,
Witkowitz>Kolno>NYC>NJ
Boxer/Boksa ?>NY,NJ


Re: Szapse = Shabbetai? or Yosef? #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/15/98 5:24:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jrw@Brown.edu
writes:

<< translation as to the firstname of Szapse. The origin is
>>from Austria and the Hebrew Name would be Yitzchak. Thank you
>
>Mike Greenberg

Even though your ancestor's Hebrew name was Yitzchak, the name Szapse does
not correspond to Yitzhak (which is Itzik in Yiddish, Isaac in English
transliteration). Szapse sounds like a Yiddish abbreviation of the Hebrew
name"Shabbsai" (an Ashkenazic pronunciation of Shabbetai.). Perhaps your
ancestor had two names, Shabbetai Yitzchak or vice versa?
>>

Shepsl (Schepsel) are popular forms for Shabbetai. Seppel/Sheppel can be a
form of Josef

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Congregation Shari Tefila in NYC/Brooklyn #general

David Gardner <dgard@...>
 

I have recently found out that my GGrandfather was buried in Montefiore
Cemtery in NY in 1934. The gentleman at the cemetery was kind enough to
tell me that the Hungarian-Austrian Congregation of Shari Tefila had
some role in the burial. Does this congregation still exist? Does anyone
have any information about it? It would be probably be in New York
County or Kings County.

Any help would be appreciated.



David Gardner M.D. Ph.D.
dgard@earthlink.net
K6LPL

Searching
Franzblau>Galicia>NY,NJ,
Kerber>?>NJ,
Witkowitz>Kolno>NYC>NJ
Boxer/Boksa ?>NY,NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Szapse = Shabbetai? or Yosef? #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/15/98 5:24:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jrw@Brown.edu
writes:

<< translation as to the firstname of Szapse. The origin is
>>from Austria and the Hebrew Name would be Yitzchak. Thank you
>
>Mike Greenberg

Even though your ancestor's Hebrew name was Yitzchak, the name Szapse does
not correspond to Yitzhak (which is Itzik in Yiddish, Isaac in English
transliteration). Szapse sounds like a Yiddish abbreviation of the Hebrew
name"Shabbsai" (an Ashkenazic pronunciation of Shabbetai.). Perhaps your
ancestor had two names, Shabbetai Yitzchak or vice versa?
>>

Shepsl (Schepsel) are popular forms for Shabbetai. Seppel/Sheppel can be a
form of Josef

Michael Bernet, New York


Re: Gravestone translation-Help please in JewishGen Digest: August 14, 1998 #general

Judith27
 

Mark Michaels < Dragon_Michaels@compuserve.com > does have a toughie
here... given the age of the stone, the condition of the weathered lettering,
plus trying to render the letters without being able to write them out in
Hebrew.... but I will try to give some suggestions, based on what I could
make out clearly or on what the letters spelled out look like to me...

(1) Rachel died 12/3/1910

taf - resh chet lamed - bet taf - yud cuf vav tuf yud aleph lamed

Taf ~~ I think this Taf may be a MEM, and stand for
the honorific title of Marat (Mrs. or the lady)
resh chet lamed -- looks like the name Rahel or Rachel to me
bet taf ~~ bat (daughter of)
yud cuf vav tuf yud aleph lamed ~~ IF the "cuf" is a "Koof"
then this may be the Hebrew name Yekutiel

aleph lamed tet nun chet - chet nun vav daled - bet nun - yud cuf vav tuf
yud aleph lamed

aleph lamed tet nun chet ?? ???
This may actually be Alef Lamed Mem Nun Hay
Or "Almanah" the widow of
chet nun vav daled ~~ If the daled here is a chuf sofit (final chaf)
then this may be the Hebrew name Chanoch
bet nun ~ ben (son of)
yud cuf vav tuf yud aleph lamed ~~ again, IF the "cuf" is a "Koof"
then this may be the Hebrew name Yekutiel (Chronicles I,
4:18)

nun pey tet resh hey - shin "cuf - vet - daled resh hey - aleph daled
resh - vet

nun pey tet resh hey ~~ niftara / passed away
shin "cuf - vet - ~~ may be a shorthand version of Shabbat Kodesh
(Holy Sababth)
daled resh hey ~~ acronym for D'Rosh Chodesh
(At the beginning of the month)
aleph daled resh - vet ~~ this looks like the Hebrew month of Adar
to me, which would be wrong as if she died Dec. 3, 1910,
the Hebrew date according to my 200 year calendar
would be Rosh Chodesh Kislev .(Dec 2 that year was a Friday,
and the 3rd was a Saturday, so the rest of the line works.
The letters should probably be Chuf Samech Lamed -Vav

tet resh ayin - lamed pey cuf

tet resh ayin -- this is the Hebrew for the year, 5671
(there's an alef missing for the one)
lamed pey cuf -- {I'm beginning to think your chuf is my Koof...}
this is an acronym for the Hebrew expression L'frat Katan,
according to the minor count which indicates that the "5000"
part of the year was left out since there are no Hebrew letters
which have a numerical value in the thousands.

(2) Henry 20/10/1895

vav - chet nun vav daled - vet nun - yud cuf vav tuf yud aleph lamed

vav ~~ the Vav here may be part of a weathered Resh with a stroke
if so, then the Resh stands for the honorific "Reb" or Mr.
chet nun vav daled ~~ again, I think the Daled is is a weathered remmnant
of what could be a final Chaf, and this is probably
the Hebrew name Chanoch, which works with the English Henry
vet nun~~ ben (son of)
yud cuf vav tuf yud aleph lamed ~~ again, IF the "cuf" is a "Koof"
then this may be the Hebrew name Yekutiel

vet pey tet resh - indecipherable
vet pey tet resh~~ Niftar / passed away
indecipherable ~~ obviously, I can't read what you can't read!!
but! the Hebrew date that corresponds to Oct. 10, 1895
according to ITIM would be Tishrei 22, 5656.

chet vav nun vet - lamed tet fey
chet vav nun vet ~~ based on the style of wording of the matzevot,
this should be the year, and since the letters are
weathered.
I think these letters may actually be Tav-Resh-Nun-Vav
or the 656 section and
lamed tet fey ~ is, once again, probably a weathered away version of
the acronym, l'frat katan, to indicate that the year was really
5656

Hope this helps!!
Shalom,
Judith Shulamith Langer-Surnamer Caplan
Judith27@aol.com
Long Beach, NY

~~~~~~~~~~~~
In a Jewish Gen Post : 8/15/98 4:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Mark Michaels < Dragon_Michaels@compuserve.com > wrote:

<>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Gravestone translation-Help please in JewishGen Digest: August 14, 1998 #general

Judith27
 

Mark Michaels < Dragon_Michaels@compuserve.com > does have a toughie
here... given the age of the stone, the condition of the weathered lettering,
plus trying to render the letters without being able to write them out in
Hebrew.... but I will try to give some suggestions, based on what I could
make out clearly or on what the letters spelled out look like to me...

(1) Rachel died 12/3/1910

taf - resh chet lamed - bet taf - yud cuf vav tuf yud aleph lamed

Taf ~~ I think this Taf may be a MEM, and stand for
the honorific title of Marat (Mrs. or the lady)
resh chet lamed -- looks like the name Rahel or Rachel to me
bet taf ~~ bat (daughter of)
yud cuf vav tuf yud aleph lamed ~~ IF the "cuf" is a "Koof"
then this may be the Hebrew name Yekutiel

aleph lamed tet nun chet - chet nun vav daled - bet nun - yud cuf vav tuf
yud aleph lamed

aleph lamed tet nun chet ?? ???
This may actually be Alef Lamed Mem Nun Hay
Or "Almanah" the widow of
chet nun vav daled ~~ If the daled here is a chuf sofit (final chaf)
then this may be the Hebrew name Chanoch
bet nun ~ ben (son of)
yud cuf vav tuf yud aleph lamed ~~ again, IF the "cuf" is a "Koof"
then this may be the Hebrew name Yekutiel (Chronicles I,
4:18)

nun pey tet resh hey - shin "cuf - vet - daled resh hey - aleph daled
resh - vet

nun pey tet resh hey ~~ niftara / passed away
shin "cuf - vet - ~~ may be a shorthand version of Shabbat Kodesh
(Holy Sababth)
daled resh hey ~~ acronym for D'Rosh Chodesh
(At the beginning of the month)
aleph daled resh - vet ~~ this looks like the Hebrew month of Adar
to me, which would be wrong as if she died Dec. 3, 1910,
the Hebrew date according to my 200 year calendar
would be Rosh Chodesh Kislev .(Dec 2 that year was a Friday,
and the 3rd was a Saturday, so the rest of the line works.
The letters should probably be Chuf Samech Lamed -Vav

tet resh ayin - lamed pey cuf

tet resh ayin -- this is the Hebrew for the year, 5671
(there's an alef missing for the one)
lamed pey cuf -- {I'm beginning to think your chuf is my Koof...}
this is an acronym for the Hebrew expression L'frat Katan,
according to the minor count which indicates that the "5000"
part of the year was left out since there are no Hebrew letters
which have a numerical value in the thousands.

(2) Henry 20/10/1895

vav - chet nun vav daled - vet nun - yud cuf vav tuf yud aleph lamed

vav ~~ the Vav here may be part of a weathered Resh with a stroke
if so, then the Resh stands for the honorific "Reb" or Mr.
chet nun vav daled ~~ again, I think the Daled is is a weathered remmnant
of what could be a final Chaf, and this is probably
the Hebrew name Chanoch, which works with the English Henry
vet nun~~ ben (son of)
yud cuf vav tuf yud aleph lamed ~~ again, IF the "cuf" is a "Koof"
then this may be the Hebrew name Yekutiel

vet pey tet resh - indecipherable
vet pey tet resh~~ Niftar / passed away
indecipherable ~~ obviously, I can't read what you can't read!!
but! the Hebrew date that corresponds to Oct. 10, 1895
according to ITIM would be Tishrei 22, 5656.

chet vav nun vet - lamed tet fey
chet vav nun vet ~~ based on the style of wording of the matzevot,
this should be the year, and since the letters are
weathered.
I think these letters may actually be Tav-Resh-Nun-Vav
or the 656 section and
lamed tet fey ~ is, once again, probably a weathered away version of
the acronym, l'frat katan, to indicate that the year was really
5656

Hope this helps!!
Shalom,
Judith Shulamith Langer-Surnamer Caplan
Judith27@aol.com
Long Beach, NY

~~~~~~~~~~~~
In a Jewish Gen Post : 8/15/98 4:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Mark Michaels < Dragon_Michaels@compuserve.com > wrote:

<>


Re: email problems #hungary

BABSK@...
 

I had unsubscribed before I went on Louis' trip and resubscribed when I
got back. I had heard of the change but had trouble finding how to re-
subscribe. Once I found it though, I am getting the messages
individually, like before. Not sure how it happened, but just want to
let you know that they can be received individually. I don't know
enough about it to tell you how to accomplish this.

Barbara Kaufman


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: email problems #hungary

BABSK@...
 

I had unsubscribed before I went on Louis' trip and resubscribed when I
got back. I had heard of the change but had trouble finding how to re-
subscribe. Once I found it though, I am getting the messages
individually, like before. Not sure how it happened, but just want to
let you know that they can be received individually. I don't know
enough about it to tell you how to accomplish this.

Barbara Kaufman


fyi: Price Library of Judaica, serial list #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

fyi

Price Library of Judaica
George A. Smathers Libraries
University of Florida

Current Serials List
http://www.uflib.ufl.edu/cm/PLJserials.html

--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<koosh@att.net>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen fyi: Price Library of Judaica, serial list #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

fyi

Price Library of Judaica
George A. Smathers Libraries
University of Florida

Current Serials List
http://www.uflib.ufl.edu/cm/PLJserials.html

--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<koosh@att.net>


SCHRAGER #general

jdmeyer <jdmeyer@...>
 

my pgggf was Philip (Phillip?) Schrager >from Iasi, Romania.
I was told he went to Palestine to die -- this would probably have been
c. 1910.
Is there any way to look up deaths this early >from records in Israel?

Joyce Meyer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SCHRAGER #general

jdmeyer <jdmeyer@...>
 

my pgggf was Philip (Phillip?) Schrager >from Iasi, Romania.
I was told he went to Palestine to die -- this would probably have been
c. 1910.
Is there any way to look up deaths this early >from records in Israel?

Joyce Meyer


GELFAND - Ihumen & Vitebsk #belarus

malkajef@...
 

I am researching the GELFAND family of Belarus, especially Jankel (Jacob)
GELFAND, born in Ihumen (Igumen, now known as Cherven) 60 kms SE of Minsk.
He also lived in Vitebsk before coming to the US in 1900.

Anyone out there >from Belarus have members of the GELFAND family in their
family trees?

Jeff Malka
<malkajef@orthohelp.com>

Moderator's Note: Jeff, I believe that GELFAND has appeared on several of the Minsk name lists that Vitaly Charny has posted previously on JewishGen and recently on this discussion group.


Belarus SIG #Belarus GELFAND - Ihumen & Vitebsk #belarus

malkajef@...
 

I am researching the GELFAND family of Belarus, especially Jankel (Jacob)
GELFAND, born in Ihumen (Igumen, now known as Cherven) 60 kms SE of Minsk.
He also lived in Vitebsk before coming to the US in 1900.

Anyone out there >from Belarus have members of the GELFAND family in their
family trees?

Jeff Malka
<malkajef@orthohelp.com>

Moderator's Note: Jeff, I believe that GELFAND has appeared on several of the Minsk name lists that Vitaly Charny has posted previously on JewishGen and recently on this discussion group.


name: Chlavna #lithuania

BREST FAMILY <angi@...>
 

Dear Litvaksiggers,

In my Lapidus/Lapedus research I have often found LAPIDUS' with the first
name of Chlavna, Chlavina and Chlawne. This is in my own particular
Branch of Lapedus ' as well as the many other Lapidus families I am
researching. I am wondering if anyone has ever heard of this name before
, and if so, where it originates from.

---
ANNE LAPEDUS BREST. Sandton South Africa.
RESEARCHING: LAPEDUS/LAPIDUS (all spellings) Lithuania, Latvia, Poland.
BREST - Bauska, Latvia.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania name: Chlavna #lithuania

BREST FAMILY <angi@...>
 

Dear Litvaksiggers,

In my Lapidus/Lapedus research I have often found LAPIDUS' with the first
name of Chlavna, Chlavina and Chlawne. This is in my own particular
Branch of Lapedus ' as well as the many other Lapidus families I am
researching. I am wondering if anyone has ever heard of this name before
, and if so, where it originates from.

---
ANNE LAPEDUS BREST. Sandton South Africa.
RESEARCHING: LAPEDUS/LAPIDUS (all spellings) Lithuania, Latvia, Poland.
BREST - Bauska, Latvia.


SEARCHING: RABBI ZVI KORETZ #lithuania

MS ANN RABINOWITZ <PQUA32A@...>
 

In relation to my Choritz family, I am searching for any information
on a Rabbi Zvi Koretz, Chief Ashkenazic Rabbi of Salonika in 1941.
He was referred to in the book "The Cross and the Pear Tree" by
Victor Perera.

Ann Rabinowitz
pqua32a@prodigy.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania SEARCHING: RABBI ZVI KORETZ #lithuania

MS ANN RABINOWITZ <PQUA32A@...>
 

In relation to my Choritz family, I am searching for any information
on a Rabbi Zvi Koretz, Chief Ashkenazic Rabbi of Salonika in 1941.
He was referred to in the book "The Cross and the Pear Tree" by
Victor Perera.

Ann Rabinowitz
pqua32a@prodigy.com