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Online list for deported Jews? #general

Foodphile@...
 

Hello everyone,
I was wondering if there is a searchable database online which lists, by
towns, Jews deported during World War 2?

Meryl Persky
Calabasas, Ca.
SEARCHING: DUNETZ (and variations such as DONITZ, DUNITZ),SALTZMAN, SUBMAN,
LIPSHITZ, KELLNER, HIRSCH, LEDER.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Online list for deported Jews? #general

Foodphile@...
 

Hello everyone,
I was wondering if there is a searchable database online which lists, by
towns, Jews deported during World War 2?

Meryl Persky
Calabasas, Ca.
SEARCHING: DUNETZ (and variations such as DONITZ, DUNITZ),SALTZMAN, SUBMAN,
LIPSHITZ, KELLNER, HIRSCH, LEDER.


Hungarian Counties, Where are they today? #hungary

Jordan Auslander <jordan@...>
 

I need help placing these 1877 Hungarian Countiesin their current border

Abauj-Torna - Slovakia=09
Als=F3 Feh=E9r =09
Arad =09
=C1rva - Slovakia
B=E1cs-Bodrog =09
Baranya =09
Bars - Slovakia
B=E9k=E9s =09
Bereg -Carpathia
Besztereze-Naz=F3d =09
Bihar=09
Borsod =20
Brass=F3 -Romania
Csan=E1d =09
Csik =09
Csongr=E1d =09
Esztergom -Hungary=09
Fej=E9r =09
Fogaras - Slovakia=09
G=F6m=F6r =E9s Kis-Hont - Slovakia
Gy=F6r - Slovakia
Hajdu -Hungary=20
H=E1romsz=E9k -Romania
Heves =09
Hont - Slovakia
Hunyad =09
J=E1sz-Nagy-Kun-Szolnok =09
Kis-K=FCk=FCll=F6=09
Kolozs =09
Kom=E1rom =09
Krass=F3-Sz=F6r=E9ny =09
Lipt=F3 - Slovakia
M=E1ramaros -Carpathia/Romania
Maros-Torda =09
Moson =09
Nagy-K=FCk=FCll=F6 =09
N=F3gr=E1d - Slovakia
Nyitra - Slovakia
Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kiskun =09
Pozsony - Slovakia
S=E1ros - Slovakia
Somogy =09
Sopron =09
Szabolc =09
Szatmar -Romania
Szeben =09
Szepes - Slovakia
Szil=E1gy =09
Szolnok-Dobka =09
Temes =09
Tolna =09
Torda-Aranyos =09
Toront=E1l =09
Trencs=E9n - Slovakia
Tur=F3cz - Slovakia
Udvarhely =20
Ugocsa -Carpathia
Ung -Carpathia
Vas=20
Vaszpr=E9m =09
Zala =09
Zempl=E9n - Slovakia
Z=F3lyom - Slovakia


Does Louis=Liber? Rachel=Raichik? #general

Foodphile@...
 

Hello all,
While looking through the Passenger Arrival Index for my ggrandfather LOUIS
KELLNER, I came upon LIBER KELLNER. Does anyone have any information about
the translation of the Hebrew name Liber? Could it be Louis?
Also, on my grandfather's marriage license to my grandmother, he states that
his mother's name is Gittle Subman. But on his death certificate he states
Gertrude Raichik. I know Gittle is Gertrude but I'm confused about Raichik?
Unless maybe it translate to Rachel for a middle name? Any suggestions and
information is always appreciated.

Meryl Persky
Calabasas, Ca.
SEARCHING: DUNETZ (and variations such as DONITZ, DUNITZ),SALTZMAN, SUBMAN,
LIPSHITZ, KELLNER, HIRSCH, LEDER.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian Counties, Where are they today? #hungary

Jordan Auslander <jordan@...>
 

I need help placing these 1877 Hungarian Countiesin their current border

Abauj-Torna - Slovakia=09
Als=F3 Feh=E9r =09
Arad =09
=C1rva - Slovakia
B=E1cs-Bodrog =09
Baranya =09
Bars - Slovakia
B=E9k=E9s =09
Bereg -Carpathia
Besztereze-Naz=F3d =09
Bihar=09
Borsod =20
Brass=F3 -Romania
Csan=E1d =09
Csik =09
Csongr=E1d =09
Esztergom -Hungary=09
Fej=E9r =09
Fogaras - Slovakia=09
G=F6m=F6r =E9s Kis-Hont - Slovakia
Gy=F6r - Slovakia
Hajdu -Hungary=20
H=E1romsz=E9k -Romania
Heves =09
Hont - Slovakia
Hunyad =09
J=E1sz-Nagy-Kun-Szolnok =09
Kis-K=FCk=FCll=F6=09
Kolozs =09
Kom=E1rom =09
Krass=F3-Sz=F6r=E9ny =09
Lipt=F3 - Slovakia
M=E1ramaros -Carpathia/Romania
Maros-Torda =09
Moson =09
Nagy-K=FCk=FCll=F6 =09
N=F3gr=E1d - Slovakia
Nyitra - Slovakia
Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kiskun =09
Pozsony - Slovakia
S=E1ros - Slovakia
Somogy =09
Sopron =09
Szabolc =09
Szatmar -Romania
Szeben =09
Szepes - Slovakia
Szil=E1gy =09
Szolnok-Dobka =09
Temes =09
Tolna =09
Torda-Aranyos =09
Toront=E1l =09
Trencs=E9n - Slovakia
Tur=F3cz - Slovakia
Udvarhely =20
Ugocsa -Carpathia
Ung -Carpathia
Vas=20
Vaszpr=E9m =09
Zala =09
Zempl=E9n - Slovakia
Z=F3lyom - Slovakia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Does Louis=Liber? Rachel=Raichik? #general

Foodphile@...
 

Hello all,
While looking through the Passenger Arrival Index for my ggrandfather LOUIS
KELLNER, I came upon LIBER KELLNER. Does anyone have any information about
the translation of the Hebrew name Liber? Could it be Louis?
Also, on my grandfather's marriage license to my grandmother, he states that
his mother's name is Gittle Subman. But on his death certificate he states
Gertrude Raichik. I know Gittle is Gertrude but I'm confused about Raichik?
Unless maybe it translate to Rachel for a middle name? Any suggestions and
information is always appreciated.

Meryl Persky
Calabasas, Ca.
SEARCHING: DUNETZ (and variations such as DONITZ, DUNITZ),SALTZMAN, SUBMAN,
LIPSHITZ, KELLNER, HIRSCH, LEDER.


Truth in discussion #general

Ilya Zeldes <ilyaz@...>
 

Dear JewishGenners:
As we all know, the very important part of JG goals is Jewish genealogical
education.
Recently, searching an answer to a question, I looked over some of JG Info
Files. I was unable to find the answer to my question. Therefore, I'd like
to post it on board for all JewishGenners to ponder and, maybe come up with
the answer. But before I can post my question (there are a few questions,
actually), I have to present you a typical scenario.
Often, someone posts a question publicly. One of the JewishGenners, a good
Samaritan rushing to help a fellow researcher, jumps in the water head first
and answers the question publicly to the best of his or her knowledge and
ability. In many instances, this answer could be very helpful and
sufficient. In some others, it could be misleading, not entirely correct, or
simply wrong.
What should we do in this case? If there is someone else on this board, who
knows the right and correct answer, should he or she get involved and call
attention of all concerned publicly - the person, who asked the question,
the person, who first answered it, the listeners and the rest of us? Or
should that knowledgeable person keep his or her mouth shut, because the
first and wrongly answering person could be extremely sensitive and unable
to take and handle any suggestion that he or she is not correct? What is
more important, the sensitivity of that individual, or truth in discussion?
Should the whole community of Jewish Genealogists take whatever misleading
information is uttered around here as the last word, or we shall take this
and any other opportunity and discuss and correct wrong information to the
best of our ability and knowledge?
I hope that my questions will be answered by both the "vocal minority" and
the "quiet majority"
Sincerely,
-----------------
Ilya Zeldes, Ph.D.
Ft. Myers, FL
Email: ILYAZ@ILINE.COM

MODERATOR'S NOTE: One hopes that in correcting an erroneous response to a
question, the writer of the correction would be sensitive enough to
approach the subject in a suitable fashion. It won't always happen, in
part because English is not always the native tongue of the writer(s) but
also because so much of information we are collectively digging up is bent and broken or otherwise damaged and difficult to 'repair' and often open to
interpretation.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Truth in discussion #general

Ilya Zeldes <ilyaz@...>
 

Dear JewishGenners:
As we all know, the very important part of JG goals is Jewish genealogical
education.
Recently, searching an answer to a question, I looked over some of JG Info
Files. I was unable to find the answer to my question. Therefore, I'd like
to post it on board for all JewishGenners to ponder and, maybe come up with
the answer. But before I can post my question (there are a few questions,
actually), I have to present you a typical scenario.
Often, someone posts a question publicly. One of the JewishGenners, a good
Samaritan rushing to help a fellow researcher, jumps in the water head first
and answers the question publicly to the best of his or her knowledge and
ability. In many instances, this answer could be very helpful and
sufficient. In some others, it could be misleading, not entirely correct, or
simply wrong.
What should we do in this case? If there is someone else on this board, who
knows the right and correct answer, should he or she get involved and call
attention of all concerned publicly - the person, who asked the question,
the person, who first answered it, the listeners and the rest of us? Or
should that knowledgeable person keep his or her mouth shut, because the
first and wrongly answering person could be extremely sensitive and unable
to take and handle any suggestion that he or she is not correct? What is
more important, the sensitivity of that individual, or truth in discussion?
Should the whole community of Jewish Genealogists take whatever misleading
information is uttered around here as the last word, or we shall take this
and any other opportunity and discuss and correct wrong information to the
best of our ability and knowledge?
I hope that my questions will be answered by both the "vocal minority" and
the "quiet majority"
Sincerely,
-----------------
Ilya Zeldes, Ph.D.
Ft. Myers, FL
Email: ILYAZ@ILINE.COM

MODERATOR'S NOTE: One hopes that in correcting an erroneous response to a
question, the writer of the correction would be sensitive enough to
approach the subject in a suitable fashion. It won't always happen, in
part because English is not always the native tongue of the writer(s) but
also because so much of information we are collectively digging up is bent and broken or otherwise damaged and difficult to 'repair' and often open to
interpretation.


Re: WWII Draft Registrations #general

Joshua and Adrienne Narrowe <narrowes@...>
 

David raises a good point about WWII Draft Registrations, based on what
I've read in the past few days, I've also been wondering about these
records and just haven't gotten to making the necessary phone calls yet.

According to Loretto Dennis Szucs in her books "They Became Americans",
Ancestry 1998, and "The Source" with Sandra Hargreaves Luebking,
Ancestry 1997; these records are housed in the various regional National
Archives and may or may not be available, but should cover men born
between 1877 and 1897 for a registration that occured on 27 April, 1942.

If anyone has used these records, or knows of places where they are
accessible, please let us know!!

Adrienne Narrowe
Scott AFB, IL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: WWII Draft Registrations #general

Joshua and Adrienne Narrowe <narrowes@...>
 

David raises a good point about WWII Draft Registrations, based on what
I've read in the past few days, I've also been wondering about these
records and just haven't gotten to making the necessary phone calls yet.

According to Loretto Dennis Szucs in her books "They Became Americans",
Ancestry 1998, and "The Source" with Sandra Hargreaves Luebking,
Ancestry 1997; these records are housed in the various regional National
Archives and may or may not be available, but should cover men born
between 1877 and 1897 for a registration that occured on 27 April, 1942.

If anyone has used these records, or knows of places where they are
accessible, please let us know!!

Adrienne Narrowe
Scott AFB, IL


Searching: SCHAEFFER #general

Stanley H. Schaeffer <poppa@...>
 

Anyone with knowledge of the SCHAEFFER family who came >from white russia in
the 19 20s? Stanley Schaeffer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: SCHAEFFER #general

Stanley H. Schaeffer <poppa@...>
 

Anyone with knowledge of the SCHAEFFER family who came >from white russia in
the 19 20s? Stanley Schaeffer


New Domain Name! #general

Leah Berkowitz <lberk@...>
 

"Jewish-American History on the Web" has a new domain name!

http://www.jewish-history.com/

Update your bookmarks!


Leah Berkowitz lberk@home.msen.com lberkow1@ford.com
http://www.jewish-history.com/ Jewish-American History


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Domain Name! #general

Leah Berkowitz <lberk@...>
 

"Jewish-American History on the Web" has a new domain name!

http://www.jewish-history.com/

Update your bookmarks!


Leah Berkowitz lberk@home.msen.com lberkow1@ford.com
http://www.jewish-history.com/ Jewish-American History


Re: Where is Kronstadt? #general

MarkGrekin <markgrekin@...>
 

Yes there is a maritime fortress in the Baltic sea near Saint Petersburg
(former Leningrad) by the name Kronstadt - center for Russian Baltic fleet.
It's located on a small Island.
It was Russian property since approx.1802 and never has a German population.
Mark Grekin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where is Kronstadt? #general

MarkGrekin <markgrekin@...>
 

Yes there is a maritime fortress in the Baltic sea near Saint Petersburg
(former Leningrad) by the name Kronstadt - center for Russian Baltic fleet.
It's located on a small Island.
It was Russian property since approx.1802 and never has a German population.
Mark Grekin


spiro #general

Makaf Tutzingen <tutsingen@...>
 

Hi,
Following the publication, in your digest, of my second posting re
SPIRO, and Michael Bernet's response to that posting, as well as the
moderator's comments, I think that a few comments and apologies are
required of me.

1. I admit that my posting may have been a bit discourteous,
especially as Mr. Bernet was the only person to reply, both privately
and via your digest. If Mr. Bernet was offended by my second posting,
I humbly beg him to forgive me, and I profusely apologize. I certainly
meant him no personal disrespect. I would, however, like to explain
what aroused my initial ire. My query was prompted by some other
general query connected to the SPIRO name. The original querier was
referred to the JGDG archives, (quite rightly so, I may add), as this
subject has been fairly broadly covered in the past. I myself searched
for information in the archives and discovered some very interesting
things. However, possibly because of my own negligence, I did not
discover any mention whatsoever of a possible connection, or lack
thereof, between the "Greek" SPIRO, and the "Jewish" SPIRO.

..deleted by moderator..

Mr. Bernet's response was precisely to what I clearly had NOT
asked, ... This was the reason for my over-caustic remarks ...
Once more, Mr. Bernet, I humbly apologize...
Your intentions, I am sure, were good.

2. What really surprises me is that Mr. Bernet claims that my account
at Yahoo was disconnected. That is very strange. If I was
discconnected, Then how am I able to do this posting?

..deleted by moderator..

... may also have caused people who truly had relevant information to
pass on to me not to post their responses..

3. Please, Mr Bernet, with all due respect, I humbly request you to
read my original posting of a week or two ago fully and carefully, and
if you have something relevant to pass on to me, I shall gratefully
accept it.

With humble Jewishgenner's greetings,
I am,
Yours sincerely,
Macky Tutsingen.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: We have edited this message as permitted by the writer.
The full text was send to Mr Bernet directly by the writer.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen spiro #general

Makaf Tutzingen <tutsingen@...>
 

Hi,
Following the publication, in your digest, of my second posting re
SPIRO, and Michael Bernet's response to that posting, as well as the
moderator's comments, I think that a few comments and apologies are
required of me.

1. I admit that my posting may have been a bit discourteous,
especially as Mr. Bernet was the only person to reply, both privately
and via your digest. If Mr. Bernet was offended by my second posting,
I humbly beg him to forgive me, and I profusely apologize. I certainly
meant him no personal disrespect. I would, however, like to explain
what aroused my initial ire. My query was prompted by some other
general query connected to the SPIRO name. The original querier was
referred to the JGDG archives, (quite rightly so, I may add), as this
subject has been fairly broadly covered in the past. I myself searched
for information in the archives and discovered some very interesting
things. However, possibly because of my own negligence, I did not
discover any mention whatsoever of a possible connection, or lack
thereof, between the "Greek" SPIRO, and the "Jewish" SPIRO.

..deleted by moderator..

Mr. Bernet's response was precisely to what I clearly had NOT
asked, ... This was the reason for my over-caustic remarks ...
Once more, Mr. Bernet, I humbly apologize...
Your intentions, I am sure, were good.

2. What really surprises me is that Mr. Bernet claims that my account
at Yahoo was disconnected. That is very strange. If I was
discconnected, Then how am I able to do this posting?

..deleted by moderator..

... may also have caused people who truly had relevant information to
pass on to me not to post their responses..

3. Please, Mr Bernet, with all due respect, I humbly request you to
read my original posting of a week or two ago fully and carefully, and
if you have something relevant to pass on to me, I shall gratefully
accept it.

With humble Jewishgenner's greetings,
I am,
Yours sincerely,
Macky Tutsingen.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: We have edited this message as permitted by the writer.
The full text was send to Mr Bernet directly by the writer.


New Berchichev Mail Group #general

NFatouros@...
 

Dear People,

I wish to call your attention to the newly formed Berdichev Mail Group.
Participants whose ancestors are >from Berdichev or its surrounding towns are
welcome to participate. They can subscribe to this group by going to:

http://www.gold-cousins.org/Gen_Berdichev.html

Naomi Fatouros
NFatouros@aol.com
98/08/20

BELKOWSKY of Tel-Aviv, Odessa, Kiev, Moscow, Berdichev; LEVY, WEIL, WILLARD
of Mulhouse, Altkirch, Seppois le Bas, Alsace; FELDMAN of "Chelsetz?" (
Kulczyce or Kulchitse or Kulcici?), near L'viv; MEEROVNA of Berdichev(?);
RAPPAPORT or RAPOPORT of Jaffa, Palestine, Podwolochisk and Ternopil; SAS, of
Podwolochisk; ROTHSTEIN, LIBERMAN >from Kiev and Moscow; ZUSMAN or SUSSMAN of
Tel-Aviv and Odessa.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Berchichev Mail Group #general

NFatouros@...
 

Dear People,

I wish to call your attention to the newly formed Berdichev Mail Group.
Participants whose ancestors are >from Berdichev or its surrounding towns are
welcome to participate. They can subscribe to this group by going to:

http://www.gold-cousins.org/Gen_Berdichev.html

Naomi Fatouros
NFatouros@aol.com
98/08/20

BELKOWSKY of Tel-Aviv, Odessa, Kiev, Moscow, Berdichev; LEVY, WEIL, WILLARD
of Mulhouse, Altkirch, Seppois le Bas, Alsace; FELDMAN of "Chelsetz?" (
Kulczyce or Kulchitse or Kulcici?), near L'viv; MEEROVNA of Berdichev(?);
RAPPAPORT or RAPOPORT of Jaffa, Palestine, Podwolochisk and Ternopil; SAS, of
Podwolochisk; ROTHSTEIN, LIBERMAN >from Kiev and Moscow; ZUSMAN or SUSSMAN of
Tel-Aviv and Odessa.