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Online list for deported Jews?
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Foodphile@...
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if there is a searchable database online which lists, by towns, Jews deported during World War 2? Meryl Persky Calabasas, Ca. SEARCHING: DUNETZ (and variations such as DONITZ, DUNITZ),SALTZMAN, SUBMAN, LIPSHITZ, KELLNER, HIRSCH, LEDER.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Online list for deported Jews?
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Foodphile@...
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if there is a searchable database online which lists, by towns, Jews deported during World War 2? Meryl Persky Calabasas, Ca. SEARCHING: DUNETZ (and variations such as DONITZ, DUNITZ),SALTZMAN, SUBMAN, LIPSHITZ, KELLNER, HIRSCH, LEDER.
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Hungarian Counties, Where are they today?
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Jordan Auslander <jordan@...>
I need help placing these 1877 Hungarian Countiesin their current border
Abauj-Torna - Slovakia=09 Als=F3 Feh=E9r =09 Arad =09 =C1rva - Slovakia B=E1cs-Bodrog =09 Baranya =09 Bars - Slovakia B=E9k=E9s =09 Bereg -Carpathia Besztereze-Naz=F3d =09 Bihar=09 Borsod =20 Brass=F3 -Romania Csan=E1d =09 Csik =09 Csongr=E1d =09 Esztergom -Hungary=09 Fej=E9r =09 Fogaras - Slovakia=09 G=F6m=F6r =E9s Kis-Hont - Slovakia Gy=F6r - Slovakia Hajdu -Hungary=20 H=E1romsz=E9k -Romania Heves =09 Hont - Slovakia Hunyad =09 J=E1sz-Nagy-Kun-Szolnok =09 Kis-K=FCk=FCll=F6=09 Kolozs =09 Kom=E1rom =09 Krass=F3-Sz=F6r=E9ny =09 Lipt=F3 - Slovakia M=E1ramaros -Carpathia/Romania Maros-Torda =09 Moson =09 Nagy-K=FCk=FCll=F6 =09 N=F3gr=E1d - Slovakia Nyitra - Slovakia Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kiskun =09 Pozsony - Slovakia S=E1ros - Slovakia Somogy =09 Sopron =09 Szabolc =09 Szatmar -Romania Szeben =09 Szepes - Slovakia Szil=E1gy =09 Szolnok-Dobka =09 Temes =09 Tolna =09 Torda-Aranyos =09 Toront=E1l =09 Trencs=E9n - Slovakia Tur=F3cz - Slovakia Udvarhely =20 Ugocsa -Carpathia Ung -Carpathia Vas=20 Vaszpr=E9m =09 Zala =09 Zempl=E9n - Slovakia Z=F3lyom - Slovakia
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Does Louis=Liber? Rachel=Raichik?
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Foodphile@...
Hello all,
While looking through the Passenger Arrival Index for my ggrandfather LOUIS KELLNER, I came upon LIBER KELLNER. Does anyone have any information about the translation of the Hebrew name Liber? Could it be Louis? Also, on my grandfather's marriage license to my grandmother, he states that his mother's name is Gittle Subman. But on his death certificate he states Gertrude Raichik. I know Gittle is Gertrude but I'm confused about Raichik? Unless maybe it translate to Rachel for a middle name? Any suggestions and information is always appreciated. Meryl Persky Calabasas, Ca. SEARCHING: DUNETZ (and variations such as DONITZ, DUNITZ),SALTZMAN, SUBMAN, LIPSHITZ, KELLNER, HIRSCH, LEDER.
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian Counties, Where are they today?
#hungary
Jordan Auslander <jordan@...>
I need help placing these 1877 Hungarian Countiesin their current border
Abauj-Torna - Slovakia=09 Als=F3 Feh=E9r =09 Arad =09 =C1rva - Slovakia B=E1cs-Bodrog =09 Baranya =09 Bars - Slovakia B=E9k=E9s =09 Bereg -Carpathia Besztereze-Naz=F3d =09 Bihar=09 Borsod =20 Brass=F3 -Romania Csan=E1d =09 Csik =09 Csongr=E1d =09 Esztergom -Hungary=09 Fej=E9r =09 Fogaras - Slovakia=09 G=F6m=F6r =E9s Kis-Hont - Slovakia Gy=F6r - Slovakia Hajdu -Hungary=20 H=E1romsz=E9k -Romania Heves =09 Hont - Slovakia Hunyad =09 J=E1sz-Nagy-Kun-Szolnok =09 Kis-K=FCk=FCll=F6=09 Kolozs =09 Kom=E1rom =09 Krass=F3-Sz=F6r=E9ny =09 Lipt=F3 - Slovakia M=E1ramaros -Carpathia/Romania Maros-Torda =09 Moson =09 Nagy-K=FCk=FCll=F6 =09 N=F3gr=E1d - Slovakia Nyitra - Slovakia Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kiskun =09 Pozsony - Slovakia S=E1ros - Slovakia Somogy =09 Sopron =09 Szabolc =09 Szatmar -Romania Szeben =09 Szepes - Slovakia Szil=E1gy =09 Szolnok-Dobka =09 Temes =09 Tolna =09 Torda-Aranyos =09 Toront=E1l =09 Trencs=E9n - Slovakia Tur=F3cz - Slovakia Udvarhely =20 Ugocsa -Carpathia Ung -Carpathia Vas=20 Vaszpr=E9m =09 Zala =09 Zempl=E9n - Slovakia Z=F3lyom - Slovakia
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Does Louis=Liber? Rachel=Raichik?
#general
Foodphile@...
Hello all,
While looking through the Passenger Arrival Index for my ggrandfather LOUIS KELLNER, I came upon LIBER KELLNER. Does anyone have any information about the translation of the Hebrew name Liber? Could it be Louis? Also, on my grandfather's marriage license to my grandmother, he states that his mother's name is Gittle Subman. But on his death certificate he states Gertrude Raichik. I know Gittle is Gertrude but I'm confused about Raichik? Unless maybe it translate to Rachel for a middle name? Any suggestions and information is always appreciated. Meryl Persky Calabasas, Ca. SEARCHING: DUNETZ (and variations such as DONITZ, DUNITZ),SALTZMAN, SUBMAN, LIPSHITZ, KELLNER, HIRSCH, LEDER.
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Truth in discussion
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Ilya Zeldes <ilyaz@...>
Dear JewishGenners:
As we all know, the very important part of JG goals is Jewish genealogical education. Recently, searching an answer to a question, I looked over some of JG Info Files. I was unable to find the answer to my question. Therefore, I'd like to post it on board for all JewishGenners to ponder and, maybe come up with the answer. But before I can post my question (there are a few questions, actually), I have to present you a typical scenario. Often, someone posts a question publicly. One of the JewishGenners, a good Samaritan rushing to help a fellow researcher, jumps in the water head first and answers the question publicly to the best of his or her knowledge and ability. In many instances, this answer could be very helpful and sufficient. In some others, it could be misleading, not entirely correct, or simply wrong. What should we do in this case? If there is someone else on this board, who knows the right and correct answer, should he or she get involved and call attention of all concerned publicly - the person, who asked the question, the person, who first answered it, the listeners and the rest of us? Or should that knowledgeable person keep his or her mouth shut, because the first and wrongly answering person could be extremely sensitive and unable to take and handle any suggestion that he or she is not correct? What is more important, the sensitivity of that individual, or truth in discussion? Should the whole community of Jewish Genealogists take whatever misleading information is uttered around here as the last word, or we shall take this and any other opportunity and discuss and correct wrong information to the best of our ability and knowledge? I hope that my questions will be answered by both the "vocal minority" and the "quiet majority" Sincerely, ----------------- Ilya Zeldes, Ph.D. Ft. Myers, FL Email: ILYAZ@ILINE.COM MODERATOR'S NOTE: One hopes that in correcting an erroneous response to a question, the writer of the correction would be sensitive enough to approach the subject in a suitable fashion. It won't always happen, in part because English is not always the native tongue of the writer(s) but also because so much of information we are collectively digging up is bent and broken or otherwise damaged and difficult to 'repair' and often open to interpretation.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Truth in discussion
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Ilya Zeldes <ilyaz@...>
Dear JewishGenners:
As we all know, the very important part of JG goals is Jewish genealogical education. Recently, searching an answer to a question, I looked over some of JG Info Files. I was unable to find the answer to my question. Therefore, I'd like to post it on board for all JewishGenners to ponder and, maybe come up with the answer. But before I can post my question (there are a few questions, actually), I have to present you a typical scenario. Often, someone posts a question publicly. One of the JewishGenners, a good Samaritan rushing to help a fellow researcher, jumps in the water head first and answers the question publicly to the best of his or her knowledge and ability. In many instances, this answer could be very helpful and sufficient. In some others, it could be misleading, not entirely correct, or simply wrong. What should we do in this case? If there is someone else on this board, who knows the right and correct answer, should he or she get involved and call attention of all concerned publicly - the person, who asked the question, the person, who first answered it, the listeners and the rest of us? Or should that knowledgeable person keep his or her mouth shut, because the first and wrongly answering person could be extremely sensitive and unable to take and handle any suggestion that he or she is not correct? What is more important, the sensitivity of that individual, or truth in discussion? Should the whole community of Jewish Genealogists take whatever misleading information is uttered around here as the last word, or we shall take this and any other opportunity and discuss and correct wrong information to the best of our ability and knowledge? I hope that my questions will be answered by both the "vocal minority" and the "quiet majority" Sincerely, ----------------- Ilya Zeldes, Ph.D. Ft. Myers, FL Email: ILYAZ@ILINE.COM MODERATOR'S NOTE: One hopes that in correcting an erroneous response to a question, the writer of the correction would be sensitive enough to approach the subject in a suitable fashion. It won't always happen, in part because English is not always the native tongue of the writer(s) but also because so much of information we are collectively digging up is bent and broken or otherwise damaged and difficult to 'repair' and often open to interpretation.
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Re: WWII Draft Registrations
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Joshua and Adrienne Narrowe <narrowes@...>
David raises a good point about WWII Draft Registrations, based on what
I've read in the past few days, I've also been wondering about these records and just haven't gotten to making the necessary phone calls yet. According to Loretto Dennis Szucs in her books "They Became Americans", Ancestry 1998, and "The Source" with Sandra Hargreaves Luebking, Ancestry 1997; these records are housed in the various regional National Archives and may or may not be available, but should cover men born between 1877 and 1897 for a registration that occured on 27 April, 1942. If anyone has used these records, or knows of places where they are accessible, please let us know!! Adrienne Narrowe Scott AFB, IL
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: WWII Draft Registrations
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Joshua and Adrienne Narrowe <narrowes@...>
David raises a good point about WWII Draft Registrations, based on what
I've read in the past few days, I've also been wondering about these records and just haven't gotten to making the necessary phone calls yet. According to Loretto Dennis Szucs in her books "They Became Americans", Ancestry 1998, and "The Source" with Sandra Hargreaves Luebking, Ancestry 1997; these records are housed in the various regional National Archives and may or may not be available, but should cover men born between 1877 and 1897 for a registration that occured on 27 April, 1942. If anyone has used these records, or knows of places where they are accessible, please let us know!! Adrienne Narrowe Scott AFB, IL
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Searching: SCHAEFFER
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Stanley H. Schaeffer <poppa@...>
Anyone with knowledge of the SCHAEFFER family who came >from white russia in
the 19 20s? Stanley Schaeffer
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: SCHAEFFER
#general
Stanley H. Schaeffer <poppa@...>
Anyone with knowledge of the SCHAEFFER family who came >from white russia in
the 19 20s? Stanley Schaeffer
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New Domain Name!
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Leah Berkowitz <lberk@...>
"Jewish-American History on the Web" has a new domain name!
http://www.jewish-history.com/ Update your bookmarks! Leah Berkowitz lberk@home.msen.com lberkow1@ford.com http://www.jewish-history.com/ Jewish-American History
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Domain Name!
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Leah Berkowitz <lberk@...>
"Jewish-American History on the Web" has a new domain name!
http://www.jewish-history.com/ Update your bookmarks! Leah Berkowitz lberk@home.msen.com lberkow1@ford.com http://www.jewish-history.com/ Jewish-American History
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Re: Where is Kronstadt?
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MarkGrekin <markgrekin@...>
Yes there is a maritime fortress in the Baltic sea near Saint Petersburg
(former Leningrad) by the name Kronstadt - center for Russian Baltic fleet. It's located on a small Island. It was Russian property since approx.1802 and never has a German population. Mark Grekin
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where is Kronstadt?
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MarkGrekin <markgrekin@...>
Yes there is a maritime fortress in the Baltic sea near Saint Petersburg
(former Leningrad) by the name Kronstadt - center for Russian Baltic fleet. It's located on a small Island. It was Russian property since approx.1802 and never has a German population. Mark Grekin
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spiro
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Makaf Tutzingen <tutsingen@...>
Hi,
Following the publication, in your digest, of my second posting re SPIRO, and Michael Bernet's response to that posting, as well as the moderator's comments, I think that a few comments and apologies are required of me. 1. I admit that my posting may have been a bit discourteous, especially as Mr. Bernet was the only person to reply, both privately and via your digest. If Mr. Bernet was offended by my second posting, I humbly beg him to forgive me, and I profusely apologize. I certainly meant him no personal disrespect. I would, however, like to explain what aroused my initial ire. My query was prompted by some other general query connected to the SPIRO name. The original querier was referred to the JGDG archives, (quite rightly so, I may add), as this subject has been fairly broadly covered in the past. I myself searched for information in the archives and discovered some very interesting things. However, possibly because of my own negligence, I did not discover any mention whatsoever of a possible connection, or lack thereof, between the "Greek" SPIRO, and the "Jewish" SPIRO. ..deleted by moderator.. Mr. Bernet's response was precisely to what I clearly had NOT asked, ... This was the reason for my over-caustic remarks ... Once more, Mr. Bernet, I humbly apologize... Your intentions, I am sure, were good. 2. What really surprises me is that Mr. Bernet claims that my account at Yahoo was disconnected. That is very strange. If I was discconnected, Then how am I able to do this posting? ..deleted by moderator.. ... may also have caused people who truly had relevant information to pass on to me not to post their responses.. 3. Please, Mr Bernet, with all due respect, I humbly request you to read my original posting of a week or two ago fully and carefully, and if you have something relevant to pass on to me, I shall gratefully accept it. With humble Jewishgenner's greetings, I am, Yours sincerely, Macky Tutsingen. MODERATOR'S NOTE: We have edited this message as permitted by the writer. The full text was send to Mr Bernet directly by the writer.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen spiro
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Makaf Tutzingen <tutsingen@...>
Hi,
Following the publication, in your digest, of my second posting re SPIRO, and Michael Bernet's response to that posting, as well as the moderator's comments, I think that a few comments and apologies are required of me. 1. I admit that my posting may have been a bit discourteous, especially as Mr. Bernet was the only person to reply, both privately and via your digest. If Mr. Bernet was offended by my second posting, I humbly beg him to forgive me, and I profusely apologize. I certainly meant him no personal disrespect. I would, however, like to explain what aroused my initial ire. My query was prompted by some other general query connected to the SPIRO name. The original querier was referred to the JGDG archives, (quite rightly so, I may add), as this subject has been fairly broadly covered in the past. I myself searched for information in the archives and discovered some very interesting things. However, possibly because of my own negligence, I did not discover any mention whatsoever of a possible connection, or lack thereof, between the "Greek" SPIRO, and the "Jewish" SPIRO. ..deleted by moderator.. Mr. Bernet's response was precisely to what I clearly had NOT asked, ... This was the reason for my over-caustic remarks ... Once more, Mr. Bernet, I humbly apologize... Your intentions, I am sure, were good. 2. What really surprises me is that Mr. Bernet claims that my account at Yahoo was disconnected. That is very strange. If I was discconnected, Then how am I able to do this posting? ..deleted by moderator.. ... may also have caused people who truly had relevant information to pass on to me not to post their responses.. 3. Please, Mr Bernet, with all due respect, I humbly request you to read my original posting of a week or two ago fully and carefully, and if you have something relevant to pass on to me, I shall gratefully accept it. With humble Jewishgenner's greetings, I am, Yours sincerely, Macky Tutsingen. MODERATOR'S NOTE: We have edited this message as permitted by the writer. The full text was send to Mr Bernet directly by the writer.
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New Berchichev Mail Group
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NFatouros@...
Dear People,
I wish to call your attention to the newly formed Berdichev Mail Group. Participants whose ancestors are >from Berdichev or its surrounding towns are welcome to participate. They can subscribe to this group by going to: http://www.gold-cousins.org/Gen_Berdichev.html Naomi Fatouros NFatouros@aol.com 98/08/20 BELKOWSKY of Tel-Aviv, Odessa, Kiev, Moscow, Berdichev; LEVY, WEIL, WILLARD of Mulhouse, Altkirch, Seppois le Bas, Alsace; FELDMAN of "Chelsetz?" ( Kulczyce or Kulchitse or Kulcici?), near L'viv; MEEROVNA of Berdichev(?); RAPPAPORT or RAPOPORT of Jaffa, Palestine, Podwolochisk and Ternopil; SAS, of Podwolochisk; ROTHSTEIN, LIBERMAN >from Kiev and Moscow; ZUSMAN or SUSSMAN of Tel-Aviv and Odessa.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Berchichev Mail Group
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NFatouros@...
Dear People,
I wish to call your attention to the newly formed Berdichev Mail Group. Participants whose ancestors are >from Berdichev or its surrounding towns are welcome to participate. They can subscribe to this group by going to: http://www.gold-cousins.org/Gen_Berdichev.html Naomi Fatouros NFatouros@aol.com 98/08/20 BELKOWSKY of Tel-Aviv, Odessa, Kiev, Moscow, Berdichev; LEVY, WEIL, WILLARD of Mulhouse, Altkirch, Seppois le Bas, Alsace; FELDMAN of "Chelsetz?" ( Kulczyce or Kulchitse or Kulcici?), near L'viv; MEEROVNA of Berdichev(?); RAPPAPORT or RAPOPORT of Jaffa, Palestine, Podwolochisk and Ternopil; SAS, of Podwolochisk; ROTHSTEIN, LIBERMAN >from Kiev and Moscow; ZUSMAN or SUSSMAN of Tel-Aviv and Odessa.
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