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FRIEDLER family research - (and Gottlieb, Epstein, Fischer, Weissman, Zang et al........) #general

Juliafreelance@...
 

Hi,
I am doing research on my family FRIEDLER - I am looking to find anything about:
Henryetta (Henrietta) Friedler (nee Zimet) born in Podhajce, Ukraine, I believe
she was married to Josef Friedler, and they may have moved to in Vienna, Austria
or remained in Ukraine.

I am also researching:
FRIEDLER, Sucher - town Rozniatow
Occupation - Eierhandler Und Eier / Export Egg Dealers And Importers

FRIEDLER, Baruch - town Rozniatow
Occupation - Kurz Und Schnittwaarenhandler / Notions & Materials (fabrics)

FRIEDLER, Moses - town Kolomea
Occupation - Leder-fabriken / Leather Maker

FRIEDLER, M town -Bolszowce
Occupation Getreide- Und Productenhandler Grain & Produce Dealer

Many thanks. Julia Zimet

Also Researching:
Zimet,Zimmet,  Chaja ZIMET/ZIMMET,  Family GOTTLIEB,
Josef FRIEDLER & Henrietta(nee ZIMET) FRIEDLER & relatives)
Samuel & Leona EPSTEIN, MESSERA, Moses (Moshe) & Bela? Rifka FISCHER,
Dr. Leon SALPETER, WEISSMAN, Aby ZANG, Hilda BRDEG (could be Drdeg) -
Podhajce / Tarnopol region & Europe


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FRIEDLER family research - (and Gottlieb, Epstein, Fischer, Weissman, Zang et al........) #general

Juliafreelance@...
 

Hi,
I am doing research on my family FRIEDLER - I am looking to find anything about:
Henryetta (Henrietta) Friedler (nee Zimet) born in Podhajce, Ukraine, I believe
she was married to Josef Friedler, and they may have moved to in Vienna, Austria
or remained in Ukraine.

I am also researching:
FRIEDLER, Sucher - town Rozniatow
Occupation - Eierhandler Und Eier / Export Egg Dealers And Importers

FRIEDLER, Baruch - town Rozniatow
Occupation - Kurz Und Schnittwaarenhandler / Notions & Materials (fabrics)

FRIEDLER, Moses - town Kolomea
Occupation - Leder-fabriken / Leather Maker

FRIEDLER, M town -Bolszowce
Occupation Getreide- Und Productenhandler Grain & Produce Dealer

Many thanks. Julia Zimet

Also Researching:
Zimet,Zimmet,  Chaja ZIMET/ZIMMET,  Family GOTTLIEB,
Josef FRIEDLER & Henrietta(nee ZIMET) FRIEDLER & relatives)
Samuel & Leona EPSTEIN, MESSERA, Moses (Moshe) & Bela? Rifka FISCHER,
Dr. Leon SALPETER, WEISSMAN, Aby ZANG, Hilda BRDEG (could be Drdeg) -
Podhajce / Tarnopol region & Europe


Translation of letter #germany

Cory Streisinger <corys@...>
 

I recently received a short letter >from the Bundesarchiv in Berlin, in response to
an inquiry. I'd appreciate a translation. Since it is only a couple of
sentences, I'm taking the liberty of including the text here rather than posting
on ViewMate. The "a:" represents an "a" with umlaut.

"Die Recherchen in den Findmitteln des Reichsartzregisters der kassena:rztlichen
Vereinigung sind abgeschlossen. Zu den von Ihnen genannten Personen konnten keine
Unterlagen ermittelt werden." Thanks for any help you can give me.

Private replies only to Cory Streisinger Portland, Oregon corys@att.net


German SIG #Germany Translation of letter #germany

Cory Streisinger <corys@...>
 

I recently received a short letter >from the Bundesarchiv in Berlin, in response to
an inquiry. I'd appreciate a translation. Since it is only a couple of
sentences, I'm taking the liberty of including the text here rather than posting
on ViewMate. The "a:" represents an "a" with umlaut.

"Die Recherchen in den Findmitteln des Reichsartzregisters der kassena:rztlichen
Vereinigung sind abgeschlossen. Zu den von Ihnen genannten Personen konnten keine
Unterlagen ermittelt werden." Thanks for any help you can give me.

Private replies only to Cory Streisinger Portland, Oregon corys@att.net


INTRO - seeking roots in Hamburg #germany

orit <ns_oritush@...>
 

MODERATOR NOTE: Always write the last name (family name) of everyone you are
researching and their relatives in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS.
Example: George WASHINGTON
Because this new member did not observe this rule it will be very difficult to
help with his or her problem. MOD 1

Hello GerSig
I just joined the group and I need your help.
My grand grandfather was born in Hamburg in 1824 his name is Elbe Salomon
(shlomo). His father's name was Naftali.
He immigrated in 1856 to Palestine with his wife and 3 children.

I don't have any information about the family he left in Germany.
If you can help me find a clue about the ELBE family in Hamburg 1750-1950,
I will be grateful

Orit (Elbe) Harif e-mail ns_oritush@bezeqint.net Israel


German SIG #Germany INTRO - seeking roots in Hamburg #germany

orit <ns_oritush@...>
 

MODERATOR NOTE: Always write the last name (family name) of everyone you are
researching and their relatives in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS.
Example: George WASHINGTON
Because this new member did not observe this rule it will be very difficult to
help with his or her problem. MOD 1

Hello GerSig
I just joined the group and I need your help.
My grand grandfather was born in Hamburg in 1824 his name is Elbe Salomon
(shlomo). His father's name was Naftali.
He immigrated in 1856 to Palestine with his wife and 3 children.

I don't have any information about the family he left in Germany.
If you can help me find a clue about the ELBE family in Hamburg 1750-1950,
I will be grateful

Orit (Elbe) Harif e-mail ns_oritush@bezeqint.net Israel


Re: SELIGMAN(N): from ICHENHAUSEN to ROUXVILLE, then USA #germany

JOHNSON <iti05248@...>
 

Dear Adam
As I live in Durban, when next I visit the archive in Pietermaritzburg
(about an hour's drive >from Durban), I can do a look up for you but I can't
promise when.

The Boer War was >from 1899 - 1902 so it seems unlikely that there would
have been fighting or tension in Rouxville between the Boers and the British
in 1880's. And as far as I know, Rouxville wasn't significant during the war
or prior to it. In any event, most of the fighting took place in northern
Natal, now KwaZulu/Natal and the northern Cape after the Boers invaded Natal
in 1899 (I recommend Thomas Pakenham's book, 'The Boer War' published by
Jonathan Ball for more information about this period).

It is more likely that the order for arrest was at the request of a partner
after a business deal went sour - or for an unpaid debt. Requests for arrest
were fairly common during the 1800's.

Bloemfontein is still the capital although the province is now known as the
Free State rather than the Orange Free State.

My grandparents were living in Pietermaritzburg (Natal) during the Boer War.
As they had a German surname (RICHTER) they were interred in concentration
camps by the British for the duration of the war (Germans were thought to be
sympathetic to the Boer cause) although it is unlikely that a similar fate
awaited Jacob SELIGMAN in the OFS. I hope this is helpful.

Cheryl Johnson Durban South Africa <iti05248@mweb.co.za>


German SIG #Germany Re: SELIGMAN(N): from ICHENHAUSEN to ROUXVILLE, then USA #germany

JOHNSON <iti05248@...>
 

Dear Adam
As I live in Durban, when next I visit the archive in Pietermaritzburg
(about an hour's drive >from Durban), I can do a look up for you but I can't
promise when.

The Boer War was >from 1899 - 1902 so it seems unlikely that there would
have been fighting or tension in Rouxville between the Boers and the British
in 1880's. And as far as I know, Rouxville wasn't significant during the war
or prior to it. In any event, most of the fighting took place in northern
Natal, now KwaZulu/Natal and the northern Cape after the Boers invaded Natal
in 1899 (I recommend Thomas Pakenham's book, 'The Boer War' published by
Jonathan Ball for more information about this period).

It is more likely that the order for arrest was at the request of a partner
after a business deal went sour - or for an unpaid debt. Requests for arrest
were fairly common during the 1800's.

Bloemfontein is still the capital although the province is now known as the
Free State rather than the Orange Free State.

My grandparents were living in Pietermaritzburg (Natal) during the Boer War.
As they had a German surname (RICHTER) they were interred in concentration
camps by the British for the duration of the war (Germans were thought to be
sympathetic to the Boer cause) although it is unlikely that a similar fate
awaited Jacob SELIGMAN in the OFS. I hope this is helpful.

Cheryl Johnson Durban South Africa <iti05248@mweb.co.za>


Re: Death in Italy, Near Lake Como #general

Nardo Bonomi
 

I would suggest to try with a) the town hall ("Comune", in Italian) of Como
and b) the nearest Jewish Community.
If your great grandfather was on holiday there is remote chance to find some
document of mortruary police in the town hall archive.
If he was observant they surelly asked the help of a rav.
You can find some information and the addresses of town halls here:
http://it.geocities.com/cittadinanzafattiva/jewit.html
And you can find addresses of the italian Jewish communities here:
http://www.ucei.it/comunita/ComunitaEbraiche.asp


Sincerely

Nardo Bonomi
Firenze - Italy
Email: nbonomi@libero.it

----- Original Message -----
From: "Caroline" <cfb@pobox.com>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:52 PM
Subject: Death in Italy, Near Lake Como

Hi,
My great grandfather (William Henry ADLER) died in Italy whilst on holiday
(!) near lake Como. I don't know where he's buried but his wife of Italian
descent, so they could have buried him there, rather than bringing him home
to London. Does anyone have any experience in/pointer to, checking this
out?
With many thanks,
Caroline F-Brown
Lancaster, ENGLAND
cfb@pobox.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Death in Italy, Near Lake Como #general

Nardo Bonomi
 

I would suggest to try with a) the town hall ("Comune", in Italian) of Como
and b) the nearest Jewish Community.
If your great grandfather was on holiday there is remote chance to find some
document of mortruary police in the town hall archive.
If he was observant they surelly asked the help of a rav.
You can find some information and the addresses of town halls here:
http://it.geocities.com/cittadinanzafattiva/jewit.html
And you can find addresses of the italian Jewish communities here:
http://www.ucei.it/comunita/ComunitaEbraiche.asp


Sincerely

Nardo Bonomi
Firenze - Italy
Email: nbonomi@libero.it

----- Original Message -----
From: "Caroline" <cfb@pobox.com>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:52 PM
Subject: Death in Italy, Near Lake Como

Hi,
My great grandfather (William Henry ADLER) died in Italy whilst on holiday
(!) near lake Como. I don't know where he's buried but his wife of Italian
descent, so they could have buried him there, rather than bringing him home
to London. Does anyone have any experience in/pointer to, checking this
out?
With many thanks,
Caroline F-Brown
Lancaster, ENGLAND
cfb@pobox.com


Social Security Death Index in the USA: What's happened? #general

BABYCAT3 <babycat3@...>
 

What has become of the SSDI? It used to have what I believe to be a government
site that was free of charge to search in. Now, when I put in SSDI or Social
Security Death Index, the only sites that pull up are charging fees to view the
records.

Does anyone know of a no-charge site they can direct me to, or is this now the
norm?

Thanks,
Barbara Meyers
babycat3@aol.com
NJ, USA
Researching KAFLOWITZ, ALK, KLEIN, FERN, WEPNER >from Poland, Russia, Ukraine


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Social Security Death Index in the USA: What's happened? #general

BABYCAT3 <babycat3@...>
 

What has become of the SSDI? It used to have what I believe to be a government
site that was free of charge to search in. Now, when I put in SSDI or Social
Security Death Index, the only sites that pull up are charging fees to view the
records.

Does anyone know of a no-charge site they can direct me to, or is this now the
norm?

Thanks,
Barbara Meyers
babycat3@aol.com
NJ, USA
Researching KAFLOWITZ, ALK, KLEIN, FERN, WEPNER >from Poland, Russia, Ukraine


More Family Finder Etiquette #general

sbloom@...
 

I would think most married folks would regularly refer to their spouses' family
as "my family", especially if there was an amicable relationship, or simply a
polite one for the benefit of children.
In addition, I think we have all probably done a little research on someone
else's behalf anyhow.

So, no, Roberta, I can't imagine most people would think you committed a
geneaologial sin at all. I dont think this gentleman could have reasonably expeted
you to be clear in your first email about the exact relationship. In any case,
your kids or grandkids would be his relatives, right? If he was so concerned about
some sort of disease, why wouldnt he have asked about them? That seems strange to
me.
Perhaps he had some sort of messy divorce in his past and was just rubbed the
wrong way.

However, I would have a problem with this (your contact with him) if maybe you
waited beyond more than a couple of emails to be clear. I think researchers
should know who they are talking to (more or less) when they are about to give
over information. That much is reasonable.

Steven Bloom


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen More Family Finder Etiquette #general

sbloom@...
 

I would think most married folks would regularly refer to their spouses' family
as "my family", especially if there was an amicable relationship, or simply a
polite one for the benefit of children.
In addition, I think we have all probably done a little research on someone
else's behalf anyhow.

So, no, Roberta, I can't imagine most people would think you committed a
geneaologial sin at all. I dont think this gentleman could have reasonably expeted
you to be clear in your first email about the exact relationship. In any case,
your kids or grandkids would be his relatives, right? If he was so concerned about
some sort of disease, why wouldnt he have asked about them? That seems strange to
me.
Perhaps he had some sort of messy divorce in his past and was just rubbed the
wrong way.

However, I would have a problem with this (your contact with him) if maybe you
waited beyond more than a couple of emails to be clear. I think researchers
should know who they are talking to (more or less) when they are about to give
over information. That much is reasonable.

Steven Bloom


re for Roberta Rosen #general

Anne Brest Photography - (LAPEDUS fam.) <angi@...>
 

Hallo Jewishgenners

Roberta, I wrote to you privately and feel free to forward my letter to this
inappropriate person you had the misfortune to be in contact with. He was
way out of line in his response. I am researching my ex husbands family,
which "hallooooooo" is my childrens family too, and I do not regard myself
as having a "weird compulsion" in so doing. This fellow needs to 'get a
grip"

Anne Lapedus Brest (ex Dublin, Ireland, Sandton South Africa
researching LAPEDUS (Vieksniai, Lithuania), KAHN (Vieksniai, Lithuania)
KARLIN (Zagera, Lithuania) MARCUS (Ackmene, Lithuania) KLAPMAN (Ackmene,
Lithuania) , ORKIN (Zagera, Lithuania) ORKIN ( Yaneshik/Yoniskis)
Lithuania, MIRRELSON (Kourland, Latvia and Kurshan, Lithuania) S(C)HILLMAN
(Kreutzburg/Krustpils, Latvia) BREST (Bauska, Latvia) NOVGOROD
(Yaneshik/Joniskis , Alte Zagera, Lithuania) CHEIN (Unknown), CHAVKIN


Requesting and Receiving Help #general

seforimlover
 

I am busy working on creating a genealogy. Part of
that work includes making a list of all living
relatives, names, addresses, phone numbers and
occupation. To that end I plan to ask various family
members to collect the information >from their branch
of the family and to pass it on to me. Theoretically
this should take them a tenth of the time that it
would take me.

However speaking with other genealogists I have been
told that it is very difficult to get people to fill
out their information and pass it on.

Has anyone got any creative ways of asking people for
help and receiving it promptly and accurately?

Thank you very much,

Yehuda Herskowitz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re for Roberta Rosen #general

Anne Brest Photography - (LAPEDUS fam.) <angi@...>
 

Hallo Jewishgenners

Roberta, I wrote to you privately and feel free to forward my letter to this
inappropriate person you had the misfortune to be in contact with. He was
way out of line in his response. I am researching my ex husbands family,
which "hallooooooo" is my childrens family too, and I do not regard myself
as having a "weird compulsion" in so doing. This fellow needs to 'get a
grip"

Anne Lapedus Brest (ex Dublin, Ireland, Sandton South Africa
researching LAPEDUS (Vieksniai, Lithuania), KAHN (Vieksniai, Lithuania)
KARLIN (Zagera, Lithuania) MARCUS (Ackmene, Lithuania) KLAPMAN (Ackmene,
Lithuania) , ORKIN (Zagera, Lithuania) ORKIN ( Yaneshik/Yoniskis)
Lithuania, MIRRELSON (Kourland, Latvia and Kurshan, Lithuania) S(C)HILLMAN
(Kreutzburg/Krustpils, Latvia) BREST (Bauska, Latvia) NOVGOROD
(Yaneshik/Joniskis , Alte Zagera, Lithuania) CHEIN (Unknown), CHAVKIN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Requesting and Receiving Help #general

seforimlover
 

I am busy working on creating a genealogy. Part of
that work includes making a list of all living
relatives, names, addresses, phone numbers and
occupation. To that end I plan to ask various family
members to collect the information >from their branch
of the family and to pass it on to me. Theoretically
this should take them a tenth of the time that it
would take me.

However speaking with other genealogists I have been
told that it is very difficult to get people to fill
out their information and pass it on.

Has anyone got any creative ways of asking people for
help and receiving it promptly and accurately?

Thank you very much,

Yehuda Herskowitz


Free and Accepted Masons-an overlooked records source #general

Meyer Denn <meyersdenn@...>
 

I would like to add my two cents to Howard Margol's observations regarding
Masonic Lodge documentation. I have been very successful in acquiring copies
of my family members' Petitions to become members of the Masonic Lodge. This
document has in many cases provided me with the names of towns in Europe
where these relatives were born as well as the dates of birth. There may
also be other pertinent genealogical infromation depending upon when this
person peteitioned for membership.

These petitions were acquired by writing to the Masonic Lodge in the town
where the relative resided.

Meyer Denn
Los Angeles, CA
meyersdenn@ev1.net


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Subject: Free and Accepted Masons-an overlooked records source
From: "Howard Margol" <homargol@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:41:58 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

An often overlooked source of records in the USA is the records
maintained by the Masons. Morris Barwald, the grandfather of a friend of
mine moved to Atlanta, Georgia in 1873. As a favor to my friend, I did a
little research. I contacted the Mason Lodge in Atlanta. Several weeks
later I received a letter >from the Grand Lodge of Georgia in Macon.

Included with the letter was a copy of a page >from the election returns
of 1874 >from Fulton Lodge No. 216, in which Mr. Barwald was listed
as a member. Also enclosed was a copy of their microfilm information
which started in 1892 listing him as a member in good standing.
Their records also showed that he was a member in good standing
until his death in 1909. A copy of the election return of 1909 reporting
his death was also included.

It is very likely that every state in the USA has a Mason Grand Lodge as
well as possibly in some other countries. It is a source well
worth checking into.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Free and Accepted Masons-an overlooked records source #general

Meyer Denn <meyersdenn@...>
 

I would like to add my two cents to Howard Margol's observations regarding
Masonic Lodge documentation. I have been very successful in acquiring copies
of my family members' Petitions to become members of the Masonic Lodge. This
document has in many cases provided me with the names of towns in Europe
where these relatives were born as well as the dates of birth. There may
also be other pertinent genealogical infromation depending upon when this
person peteitioned for membership.

These petitions were acquired by writing to the Masonic Lodge in the town
where the relative resided.

Meyer Denn
Los Angeles, CA
meyersdenn@ev1.net


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Subject: Free and Accepted Masons-an overlooked records source
From: "Howard Margol" <homargol@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:41:58 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

An often overlooked source of records in the USA is the records
maintained by the Masons. Morris Barwald, the grandfather of a friend of
mine moved to Atlanta, Georgia in 1873. As a favor to my friend, I did a
little research. I contacted the Mason Lodge in Atlanta. Several weeks
later I received a letter >from the Grand Lodge of Georgia in Macon.

Included with the letter was a copy of a page >from the election returns
of 1874 >from Fulton Lodge No. 216, in which Mr. Barwald was listed
as a member. Also enclosed was a copy of their microfilm information
which started in 1892 listing him as a member in good standing.
Their records also showed that he was a member in good standing
until his death in 1909. A copy of the election return of 1909 reporting
his death was also included.

It is very likely that every state in the USA has a Mason Grand Lodge as
well as possibly in some other countries. It is a source well
worth checking into.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@aol.com