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Adoptions #general

Kohanski, Dorothy D. <dkohanski@...>
 

Has anyone done successful searches for information on birth relatives
when one has been adopted and raised in a different religion than
Jewish?
I have a friend who was adopted, but *feels* Jewish and is searching.
Suggestions?

Thanks,
Dorothy Kohanski
Laguna Hills, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Adoptions #general

Kohanski, Dorothy D. <dkohanski@...>
 

Has anyone done successful searches for information on birth relatives
when one has been adopted and raised in a different religion than
Jewish?
I have a friend who was adopted, but *feels* Jewish and is searching.
Suggestions?

Thanks,
Dorothy Kohanski
Laguna Hills, CA


SHIP'S MANIFESTS FROM KEW #general

MS ANN RABINOWITZ <PQUA32A@...>
 

For those of you who can locate family members through the Poor Jews'
Temporary Shelter Database (PJTS), the name of the ship the passenger
left England on is given and the date. With this information, you
will be able to locate the ships's manifest at KEW. However, the
information available to you once you obtain the manifest may be
minimal for the following reasons:

o The names of the passengers usually contain either an initial or an
abbreviation. For instance, Mrs. Ch. Chorez or Mr. C. Zadekowitz.
This can be quite frustrating as is the case of Mrs. Ch. Chorez as
you do not know if the abbreviation "Ch." refers to her first name
which may be Chaya or her husband's first name which may be Chaim.

o The port the passenger is going to such as Algoa Bay, Cape Town,
East London, Natal, etc., is given, but not who they are going to.

The good news is that the following information is provided on the
passenger manifests:

o The name of the ship, its master, tonnage, footage, number of
adult passengers, country where bound, number of voyage days and date
of departure. This can be quite enlightening as the "Arundel Castle"
took sixty-five days to travel >from Southampton, England, to Cape
Town, South Africa, in 1896, while the "Briton" took only forty-five
days to travel >from Southampton, England, to Cape Town, South Africa,
in 1902.

o In addition to the data specific to the ship, there is data
relating to the passengers such as: the port of departure, name of
passenger, profession of passenger (cabinetmaker, carpenter,
contractor, cigarette maker, clerk, cooper, dealer, merchant,
milliner, miner, saddler, storekeeper, tailor, etc.), age of
passenger divided by whether they were English, Scotch, Irish or
Foreigners and then further divided by whether they were married or
single and then whether they were adults (age 12 years or older)
children (between ages 1 and 12 years) or infants (under one years of
age), and the port at which the passengers have contracted to land.

o You may be able to determine who traveled with the passenger and
what ship they came to England on. For instance, Mrs. Ch. Chorez
came with a number of others on the Danish registered ship "Perm"
from Libau. At present, there are no known records of the ship's
manifests >from the "Perm" and other ships that departed >from ports
such as Libau and came to England.

On the ship's manifest, all "Perm" passengers were bracketted. Among
the "Perm" passengers were several who were known to have come >from
the same town (Kupishok) along with Mrs. Ch. Chorez. Another example
is Mr. C. Zadekowitz who was bracketted with six other men listed as
miners. Several of the men were >from families who came >from the same
town (Kupishok) as well.

In addition, you may find discrepancies between what was noted on the
Poor Jews' Temporary Shelter (PJTS) Database and the ship's manifest.
For instance, Mr. C. Zadekowitz was listed as a merchant on the PJTS
and was listed as a miner on the ship's manifest along with six other
men.

The ship's manifests are therefore very intriguing and can raise
quite a few more questions than answers for the researcher. For
those who do not have access to KEW, you can utilize a qualified
marine researcher such as Debby Beavis, who can fill in the bare
bones of the manifest with info on the specific ship or oddities on
the manifest.

Ann Rabinowitz
pqua32a@prodigy.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SHIP'S MANIFESTS FROM KEW #general

MS ANN RABINOWITZ <PQUA32A@...>
 

For those of you who can locate family members through the Poor Jews'
Temporary Shelter Database (PJTS), the name of the ship the passenger
left England on is given and the date. With this information, you
will be able to locate the ships's manifest at KEW. However, the
information available to you once you obtain the manifest may be
minimal for the following reasons:

o The names of the passengers usually contain either an initial or an
abbreviation. For instance, Mrs. Ch. Chorez or Mr. C. Zadekowitz.
This can be quite frustrating as is the case of Mrs. Ch. Chorez as
you do not know if the abbreviation "Ch." refers to her first name
which may be Chaya or her husband's first name which may be Chaim.

o The port the passenger is going to such as Algoa Bay, Cape Town,
East London, Natal, etc., is given, but not who they are going to.

The good news is that the following information is provided on the
passenger manifests:

o The name of the ship, its master, tonnage, footage, number of
adult passengers, country where bound, number of voyage days and date
of departure. This can be quite enlightening as the "Arundel Castle"
took sixty-five days to travel >from Southampton, England, to Cape
Town, South Africa, in 1896, while the "Briton" took only forty-five
days to travel >from Southampton, England, to Cape Town, South Africa,
in 1902.

o In addition to the data specific to the ship, there is data
relating to the passengers such as: the port of departure, name of
passenger, profession of passenger (cabinetmaker, carpenter,
contractor, cigarette maker, clerk, cooper, dealer, merchant,
milliner, miner, saddler, storekeeper, tailor, etc.), age of
passenger divided by whether they were English, Scotch, Irish or
Foreigners and then further divided by whether they were married or
single and then whether they were adults (age 12 years or older)
children (between ages 1 and 12 years) or infants (under one years of
age), and the port at which the passengers have contracted to land.

o You may be able to determine who traveled with the passenger and
what ship they came to England on. For instance, Mrs. Ch. Chorez
came with a number of others on the Danish registered ship "Perm"
from Libau. At present, there are no known records of the ship's
manifests >from the "Perm" and other ships that departed >from ports
such as Libau and came to England.

On the ship's manifest, all "Perm" passengers were bracketted. Among
the "Perm" passengers were several who were known to have come >from
the same town (Kupishok) along with Mrs. Ch. Chorez. Another example
is Mr. C. Zadekowitz who was bracketted with six other men listed as
miners. Several of the men were >from families who came >from the same
town (Kupishok) as well.

In addition, you may find discrepancies between what was noted on the
Poor Jews' Temporary Shelter (PJTS) Database and the ship's manifest.
For instance, Mr. C. Zadekowitz was listed as a merchant on the PJTS
and was listed as a miner on the ship's manifest along with six other
men.

The ship's manifests are therefore very intriguing and can raise
quite a few more questions than answers for the researcher. For
those who do not have access to KEW, you can utilize a qualified
marine researcher such as Debby Beavis, who can fill in the bare
bones of the manifest with info on the specific ship or oddities on
the manifest.

Ann Rabinowitz
pqua32a@prodigy.com


Searching: SCHUDSON & LEIBOVITZ #general

SLSchudson <slschudson@...>
 

I'm looking for info on SCHUDSON >from Riga. It's my husband's last name and as
far as I can determine, his family in the US are the only SCHUDSONs on the
planet!

Also looking for any info on Phillip (?) LEIBOVITZ, possibly >from Romania.

Thanks! Sue


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: SCHUDSON & LEIBOVITZ #general

SLSchudson <slschudson@...>
 

I'm looking for info on SCHUDSON >from Riga. It's my husband's last name and as
far as I can determine, his family in the US are the only SCHUDSONs on the
planet!

Also looking for any info on Phillip (?) LEIBOVITZ, possibly >from Romania.

Thanks! Sue


Re: Searching: STEINER #general

Jfpol <jfpol@...>
 

Dear Maya,

there is a new STEINER mail group. Write to Avraham:

steiner2@netvision.net.il.

My Steiners are >from Janovice and Klatovy, Bohemia. There are so many Steiners
around that this list appears to be helpful in organizing them. sincerely,

Joan Pollak Merion, Pa;


Re: National Archives #belarus

Gertrude S. Ogushwitz <gsogush@...>
 

The National Archives forms listed below can be obtained by email >from the
National Archives e-mail Reference and Information Service at
<inquire@arch2.nara.gov>. You must include the word "forms" on the subject
line. In your message, indicate the form number, the quantity needed, and
your postal mailing address. You should receive the forms and related
leaflets within 3 to 5 working days:

Form 80 (Military service and pension records prior to World War I,
including the Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Civil War, and
Spanish-American War);
Form 81 (Passenger Arrivals)
Form 82 (Copies of Census Records)
Form 83 (Eastern Cherokee Applications)
Form 84 (Land Entry Files)
Form 180 (Military service records, World War I and later).

To ask a reference request, type "inquire" in the subject line and state
your question.

Gertrude Singer Ogushwitz
<gsogush@neca.com>


Searching: SCHONENBERG #general

Lida Baker <lbaker@...>
 

Hello,
I have made little progress in my search for Gunter SCHONENBERG, so once
again I am turning to this list for help. Two sources inform me that
SCHONENBERG left Holland for Los Angeles on June 12, 1947: the Centraal
Bureau voor Genealogie and the Register in Amsterdam. Since I live in Los
Angeles and have been unable to locate SCHONENBERG here, I wrote to the
Gemeentearchief in Rotterdam asking if he was a passenger on the Holland
Amerika Lijn. They have no record of him in their index for the year 1947.
So perhaps someone can tell me:

-- What other shipping companies can I check to see if he was a passenger
with them?
-- How can I find out if SCHONENBERG actually landed on the shores of this
country?

Incidentally, SCHONENBERG was the son of Julius SCHONENBERG and Selma
ROSENTHAL >from Gelsenkirchen, Germany. He was born on Sept. 7, 1920. He
came to Holland >from Germany in 1938 and lived in Amsterdam. He married my
mother, Branca BLITS, in 1943.

Thanks for your help.

Lida Baker
Los Angeles
lbaker@ucla.edu


Searching: GORISH/GORSKY - from Danzig, Prussia #general

CervenFinn <cervenfinn@...>
 

Does anyone have info on this surname >from the early to mid 1800s? My
great-great grandfather was supposed to have been an orphan raised in an
orphanage and was >from a Jewish family named GORSKI or GORSKY. Any clues are appreciated.


Cerven Finn


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching: STEINER #general

Jfpol <jfpol@...>
 

Dear Maya,

there is a new STEINER mail group. Write to Avraham:

steiner2@netvision.net.il.

My Steiners are >from Janovice and Klatovy, Bohemia. There are so many Steiners
around that this list appears to be helpful in organizing them. sincerely,

Joan Pollak Merion, Pa;


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: National Archives #general

Gertrude S. Ogushwitz <gsogush@...>
 

The National Archives forms listed below can be obtained by email >from the
National Archives e-mail Reference and Information Service at
<inquire@arch2.nara.gov>. You must include the word "forms" on the subject
line. In your message, indicate the form number, the quantity needed, and
your postal mailing address. You should receive the forms and related
leaflets within 3 to 5 working days:

Form 80 (Military service and pension records prior to World War I,
including the Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Civil War, and
Spanish-American War);
Form 81 (Passenger Arrivals)
Form 82 (Copies of Census Records)
Form 83 (Eastern Cherokee Applications)
Form 84 (Land Entry Files)
Form 180 (Military service records, World War I and later).

To ask a reference request, type "inquire" in the subject line and state
your question.

Gertrude Singer Ogushwitz
<gsogush@neca.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: SCHONENBERG #general

Lida Baker <lbaker@...>
 

Hello,
I have made little progress in my search for Gunter SCHONENBERG, so once
again I am turning to this list for help. Two sources inform me that
SCHONENBERG left Holland for Los Angeles on June 12, 1947: the Centraal
Bureau voor Genealogie and the Register in Amsterdam. Since I live in Los
Angeles and have been unable to locate SCHONENBERG here, I wrote to the
Gemeentearchief in Rotterdam asking if he was a passenger on the Holland
Amerika Lijn. They have no record of him in their index for the year 1947.
So perhaps someone can tell me:

-- What other shipping companies can I check to see if he was a passenger
with them?
-- How can I find out if SCHONENBERG actually landed on the shores of this
country?

Incidentally, SCHONENBERG was the son of Julius SCHONENBERG and Selma
ROSENTHAL >from Gelsenkirchen, Germany. He was born on Sept. 7, 1920. He
came to Holland >from Germany in 1938 and lived in Amsterdam. He married my
mother, Branca BLITS, in 1943.

Thanks for your help.

Lida Baker
Los Angeles
lbaker@ucla.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: GORISH/GORSKY - from Danzig, Prussia #general

CervenFinn <cervenfinn@...>
 

Does anyone have info on this surname >from the early to mid 1800s? My
great-great grandfather was supposed to have been an orphan raised in an
orphanage and was >from a Jewish family named GORSKI or GORSKY. Any clues are appreciated.


Cerven Finn


Re: BRALOFF...... Was "BRAILOWSKY" #general

Daniel Wagner <Cpwagner@...>
 

Those of you researching this surname may or may not be aware that
there is a BRAILOWSKI who is a well-known ex-soccer player now
living in Israel, and is the coach of the Maccabi Haifa team.
He is originally >from Argentina. For info.

______________
H Daniel Wagner
E-mail: cpwagner@wis.weizmann.ac.il
http://www.weizmann.ac.il/wagner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: BRALOFF...... Was "BRAILOWSKY" #general

Daniel Wagner <Cpwagner@...>
 

Those of you researching this surname may or may not be aware that
there is a BRAILOWSKI who is a well-known ex-soccer player now
living in Israel, and is the coach of the Maccabi Haifa team.
He is originally >from Argentina. For info.

______________
H Daniel Wagner
E-mail: cpwagner@wis.weizmann.ac.il
http://www.weizmann.ac.il/wagner


Re: Gorodischer Landsmanshaften at Washington Cemetery #general

Phyllis Kramer <phylliskramer1@...>
 

Lois Sernoff <JGLois@aol.com>
asked about a grodisher burial society.....I saw one which, altho spelled
Horodischer,
I believe to be the same shtetl, at Washington Cemetery in Dean, NJ.
It is a relatively religious cemetery with many small
plots. I've taken photographs of many of the stones in front of the
landsmanshaften plots (what do
you call these stones with listings of names??)

The Horodischer Brothers Ben. Assn, Inc. plot has a monument in front
which
lists Alpert, Berenstein, Carmen, Grodinsky, Goldstein,
Gold, Kanishefsky, Litsky, Nurenberg, Potolsky, Ratner,
Remba, Schwartz, Sampson, Slotnick, Turetsky, Welbuschewitz, Welsh and
Yoselowitz.



PhyllisKramer1@worldnet.att.net, Wilton Conn and NYC ...... searching
KRAMER, WISNER >from Jasienica Rosielna, Poland
STECHER, TRACHMAN, FEIR/FEUER, KORNREICH (Zmigrod & Rymanow, Pol)
KANDEL, SCHIMMEL, SCHEINER, GREENBERG (Strzyzow & Dubiecko, Pol)
LINDNER, EICHEL, BERLIN, MAURER, MERL, WEICH (Rogatin & Bolechov, Ukr)
LINDNER, JONAS (Iasi, Romania)


Re: Shalom Mlawa #general

ada01@...
 

On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 00:00:19 -0500 JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:

Subject: landsmanshaften >from Mlawa
From: Danita Simon <dhsimon@home.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 12:41:14 GMT
X-Message-Number: 8

Does anyone have any information about or conections to a Brooklyn,NY
landsmanshaften >from Mlawa,Poland.
Shalom,

I answer through this forum as may be of interest to others with roots
from MLAWA Poland.
I wish to inform you that I have initiated a Memorial Web page for this
shtetl, and I called it: M.R.I. Mlawa Remembrance Initiative.
It is located at my web site:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/INDMLAWA.HTM

There is one page with the addresses of the Landsmenschaften of Mlawa
in Israel and in USA!

There is a section where you can send a form with inquiry or a message which
will be of interest to all Jewishgenners researching MLAWA, and a section where you
can read these messages and may be link to other researchers, and have valuable
sources of information about Jewish Mlawa.

I also wish to draw your attention to the article of Dr. Ze'ev
Yunis, located at:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/MLAYUNIS.HTM
It is unique piece of history and literature and anyone, even without any
connection to Mlawa (like myself!) is deeply impressed.
It contains tens and tens of surnames as many of the families
of Mlawa are mentioned in this article, a rare "pearl" of nostalgia and
love to the shtetl, a town in Poland where once we walked...
6 chapters out of 17 are already posted.
The re-typing of it was done by Robert Tachna and posted by myself.

As a gesture of honour to Robert Tachna and his family, I host his
Memorial and Genealogical Home Page, where most interesting sources
of information are gathered and posted.
See the Tachna section at:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/TACHNA.HTM

One chapter is also dedicated to JRI Shtetl CO-OP Mlawa.

I wish you interesting MRI session... and Moadim Le'Simcha,


Ada Holtzman


-------------------------------------
E-mail: ada01@netvision.net.il
Date: 10/07/98
Time: 07:46:03
Web site:http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/
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Re: Where is shtetl Charev, Poland? #general

armata@...
 

"Charev" might be Chorzew ("v" in Polish is spelled with a "w", and
native Polish "re" is spelled "rze"). Chorzew is a village about 55
miles south of Ozorkow, and about 15 miles east of Wielun. Hope this
helps!


Joe Armata
armata@vms.cis.pitt.edu


- I am having trouble figuring out the modern-day name of "Charev", Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Gorodischer Landsmanshaften at Washington Cemetery #general

Phyllis Kramer <phylliskramer1@...>
 

Lois Sernoff <JGLois@aol.com>
asked about a grodisher burial society.....I saw one which, altho spelled
Horodischer,
I believe to be the same shtetl, at Washington Cemetery in Dean, NJ.
It is a relatively religious cemetery with many small
plots. I've taken photographs of many of the stones in front of the
landsmanshaften plots (what do
you call these stones with listings of names??)

The Horodischer Brothers Ben. Assn, Inc. plot has a monument in front
which
lists Alpert, Berenstein, Carmen, Grodinsky, Goldstein,
Gold, Kanishefsky, Litsky, Nurenberg, Potolsky, Ratner,
Remba, Schwartz, Sampson, Slotnick, Turetsky, Welbuschewitz, Welsh and
Yoselowitz.



PhyllisKramer1@worldnet.att.net, Wilton Conn and NYC ...... searching
KRAMER, WISNER >from Jasienica Rosielna, Poland
STECHER, TRACHMAN, FEIR/FEUER, KORNREICH (Zmigrod & Rymanow, Pol)
KANDEL, SCHIMMEL, SCHEINER, GREENBERG (Strzyzow & Dubiecko, Pol)
LINDNER, EICHEL, BERLIN, MAURER, MERL, WEICH (Rogatin & Bolechov, Ukr)
LINDNER, JONAS (Iasi, Romania)