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Banat-Werschetz #general

Nikola Roth <nikon@...>
 

I'm searching for any informations, documents, personal stories...anything
that could help in saving the memory of the Jewish Life in the city of
Vrsac (Werschetz or Versecz), Banat, Yugoslavia.

Thank you

Nikola Roth


OPPENHEIMER in Paramaribo, NY, & Netherlands #general

Judith27
 

Dear JewishGendom,
A new OPPENHEIMER twist and turn in my SURNAMER research trail showed up
recently. While doing research in a Dutch archive, my 7th cousin, Jetty,
learned of a family named OPPENHEIMER which was inquiring back in 1934 about a
possible bequest to them >from the ancient Suriname estate of my 6th great-
uncle, Gerrit Jacobs.
The OPPENHEIMERS named on this list included Albert in Cleveland, Ohio;
Julius, Arnold, George all in NY, and Paul in Amsterdam, Holland. All five
were brothers, and named as sons of a Leopold OPPENHEIMER who had passed away
Feb. 7, 1926, in Paramaribo, Suriname.
It is not yet known how these six OPPENHEIMERS might be connected to the
main SURINAMER /ZURNAMER family tree, though it is thought that a Gerzon
OPPENHEIMER (b. 1818 Germany?) and an Abraham OPPENHEIMER (b. circa 1813?)
were married to two sisters, Judith and Lea, great-granddaughters of Esther
Isaac HaCohen, who was the sister of Gerrit Jacobs.
Since Esther Isaac HaCohen was my 6th great grandmother, I'm sure you all
can understand how I have a strong vested interest in learning how I may or
may not be related to all these particular OPPENHEIMERS mentioned!!! {GRIN!}
I have already perused the JGFF (Jewish GEN Family Finder), FTJP (Family
Tree of the Jewish People), and SSDI (Social Security Death Index), but there
actually seem to be too many OPPENHEIMER possibilities there to try treading
these routes. Any other leads, tie-ins, or suggestions always gratefully
accepted.
Shalom,
Judith Shulamith Langer-Surnamer Caplan
<Judith27@...>
Long Beach, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Banat-Werschetz #general

Nikola Roth <nikon@...>
 

I'm searching for any informations, documents, personal stories...anything
that could help in saving the memory of the Jewish Life in the city of
Vrsac (Werschetz or Versecz), Banat, Yugoslavia.

Thank you

Nikola Roth


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen OPPENHEIMER in Paramaribo, NY, & Netherlands #general

Judith27
 

Dear JewishGendom,
A new OPPENHEIMER twist and turn in my SURNAMER research trail showed up
recently. While doing research in a Dutch archive, my 7th cousin, Jetty,
learned of a family named OPPENHEIMER which was inquiring back in 1934 about a
possible bequest to them >from the ancient Suriname estate of my 6th great-
uncle, Gerrit Jacobs.
The OPPENHEIMERS named on this list included Albert in Cleveland, Ohio;
Julius, Arnold, George all in NY, and Paul in Amsterdam, Holland. All five
were brothers, and named as sons of a Leopold OPPENHEIMER who had passed away
Feb. 7, 1926, in Paramaribo, Suriname.
It is not yet known how these six OPPENHEIMERS might be connected to the
main SURINAMER /ZURNAMER family tree, though it is thought that a Gerzon
OPPENHEIMER (b. 1818 Germany?) and an Abraham OPPENHEIMER (b. circa 1813?)
were married to two sisters, Judith and Lea, great-granddaughters of Esther
Isaac HaCohen, who was the sister of Gerrit Jacobs.
Since Esther Isaac HaCohen was my 6th great grandmother, I'm sure you all
can understand how I have a strong vested interest in learning how I may or
may not be related to all these particular OPPENHEIMERS mentioned!!! {GRIN!}
I have already perused the JGFF (Jewish GEN Family Finder), FTJP (Family
Tree of the Jewish People), and SSDI (Social Security Death Index), but there
actually seem to be too many OPPENHEIMER possibilities there to try treading
these routes. Any other leads, tie-ins, or suggestions always gratefully
accepted.
Shalom,
Judith Shulamith Langer-Surnamer Caplan
<Judith27@...>
Long Beach, New York


Re: Bzenc community [sp?] #general

Don Saklad <dsaklad@...>
 

There a number of towns and shtetls with similar
names to Bzenc.

Which one of them would be Bzenc ?



Don Kempner Warner Sheml Saklad
2 Linwood Place Cambridge MA 02139-1525 USA
tel. & fax 617-661-9650

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/2464
alternate email: dsaklad@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Bzenc community [sp?] #general

Don Saklad <dsaklad@...>
 

There a number of towns and shtetls with similar
names to Bzenc.

Which one of them would be Bzenc ?



Don Kempner Warner Sheml Saklad
2 Linwood Place Cambridge MA 02139-1525 USA
tel. & fax 617-661-9650

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/2464
alternate email: dsaklad@...


Need help with Yiddish(?) signature #general

Gswetsky <gswetsky@...>
 

If you're fluent in Yiddish and Hebrew script, could you please look at my
great-grandfather's second wife's signature? I think it may be the only clue
to her maiden name.

The URL is http://www.GeoCities.com/Heartland/Prairie/4621/Sarah.htm

Thanks!

Gerry Swetsky <gswetsky@...>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need help with Yiddish(?) signature #general

Gswetsky <gswetsky@...>
 

If you're fluent in Yiddish and Hebrew script, could you please look at my
great-grandfather's second wife's signature? I think it may be the only clue
to her maiden name.

The URL is http://www.GeoCities.com/Heartland/Prairie/4621/Sarah.htm

Thanks!

Gerry Swetsky <gswetsky@...>


A Town Named Libau #general

Barbara Siegel <bsiegel@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,
For all those with research interests in Latvia, I highly recommend that you
take a look at this contribution made possible thru the efforts of the
Yizkor Book SIG. I finally found the time to access and download this
complete English version of the original 36 page booklet. I certainly wish I
had had the opportunity to do so prior to my trip to Libau (Liepaja) Latvia
in the summer of 1997. It would have added much depth and meaning to my
short visit in that town. But even now, it has helped to add considerable
substance to my memories of the place.

"A Town Named Libau" can be accessed at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/libau.html

Barbara Siegel
Jerusalem

Searching: FRIEDLANDER/Ventspils, LEVINSON/Grobin,Ventspils,
HERTZBERG/Tukums, BERSHADSKY/Tulchin also: Liepaja, Goldingen, Pilten


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A Town Named Libau #general

Barbara Siegel <bsiegel@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,
For all those with research interests in Latvia, I highly recommend that you
take a look at this contribution made possible thru the efforts of the
Yizkor Book SIG. I finally found the time to access and download this
complete English version of the original 36 page booklet. I certainly wish I
had had the opportunity to do so prior to my trip to Libau (Liepaja) Latvia
in the summer of 1997. It would have added much depth and meaning to my
short visit in that town. But even now, it has helped to add considerable
substance to my memories of the place.

"A Town Named Libau" can be accessed at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/libau.html

Barbara Siegel
Jerusalem

Searching: FRIEDLANDER/Ventspils, LEVINSON/Grobin,Ventspils,
HERTZBERG/Tukums, BERSHADSKY/Tulchin also: Liepaja, Goldingen, Pilten


Re: the name Miriam/Magdalena #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-10-06 21:46:05 EDT, bnnch@... cited my
comment:

==Only among Christians would there be any association between Magdalena and
any of the derivatives of Miriam such as Mary, Maria.

and apparently wanted to argue the point. He wrote

<<My Dutch founding father, originating >from Oestinghausen(Prussia) had at the
"naamsaanneming" in 1812-the Napoleon edict on the adoption of
a family name-a daughter named Maria.I have the certificate to prove
it.He was very much a religious Jew, and calling his than a year and a
half old daughter Maria, seemingly didn't bother him.In the kille
Maria was known as "Mietje".It all points to Miriam.
==That's the point. Marie and Maria, derivatives of Miriam, are to be found
in Jewish families; Magdalena is a most unlikely name for a Jewish woman.

He adds:
<<Needless to say that they (and me) are pure Ashkenazim. As my teacher at a
course on genealogy by the Diaspora Museum (Beth Hatfutsoth-Tel Aviv) used to
say:- in genealogy everything is possible. >>
==Can we please get away >from this sort of statement that smells of "racial
purity"? Besides which, such a statement cannot be true. Sephardi and
Ashkenazi Jews "seprated" comparatively lately, and there was always migration
and intermarriage. Or as bnnch himself quoted: << in genealogy everything is
possible>>. Including having unexpected ancestors >from another country.

BTW: my English teacher told me that if something is "needless to say," it
doesn't need to be said" <g>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: the name Miriam/Magdalena #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-10-06 21:46:05 EDT, bnnch@... cited my
comment:

==Only among Christians would there be any association between Magdalena and
any of the derivatives of Miriam such as Mary, Maria.

and apparently wanted to argue the point. He wrote

<<My Dutch founding father, originating >from Oestinghausen(Prussia) had at the
"naamsaanneming" in 1812-the Napoleon edict on the adoption of
a family name-a daughter named Maria.I have the certificate to prove
it.He was very much a religious Jew, and calling his than a year and a
half old daughter Maria, seemingly didn't bother him.In the kille
Maria was known as "Mietje".It all points to Miriam.
==That's the point. Marie and Maria, derivatives of Miriam, are to be found
in Jewish families; Magdalena is a most unlikely name for a Jewish woman.

He adds:
<<Needless to say that they (and me) are pure Ashkenazim. As my teacher at a
course on genealogy by the Diaspora Museum (Beth Hatfutsoth-Tel Aviv) used to
say:- in genealogy everything is possible. >>
==Can we please get away >from this sort of statement that smells of "racial
purity"? Besides which, such a statement cannot be true. Sephardi and
Ashkenazi Jews "seprated" comparatively lately, and there was always migration
and intermarriage. Or as bnnch himself quoted: << in genealogy everything is
possible>>. Including having unexpected ancestors >from another country.

BTW: my English teacher told me that if something is "needless to say," it
doesn't need to be said" <g>


Bobruisk 2nd Duma (1906) online (in part) #general

Don Mopsick <mophandl@...>
 

Surnames (along with given names and patronymics) beginning with
selected letters >from the Bobruisk Duma voter registration list are now
online at the Bobruisk ShtetLinks site at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/bobruisk/2dumfram.html

The letters (transliterated >from Cyrillic) are:

A | B | V | G | D | E | Zh | Z | K | M | S

About half of the project is completed. The method we are using is to
enter the names in Cyrillic (using the Windows 95 language keyboard
support setup for Russian), then running the Cyrillic files through an
Exel function created by Michael Tobias, then posting the resulting
Roman alphabet files on our website temporarily. When the project is
completed, it will be another JewishGen database.

If you have ancestry >from Bobruisk, the list makes fascinating reading.

To join the Bobruisk Interest Group (BIG), you can follow the
instructions found on our home page at

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/bobruisk/bobruisk.html

Best,

Don Mopsick, BIG Shammes


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bobruisk 2nd Duma (1906) online (in part) #general

Don Mopsick <mophandl@...>
 

Surnames (along with given names and patronymics) beginning with
selected letters >from the Bobruisk Duma voter registration list are now
online at the Bobruisk ShtetLinks site at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/bobruisk/2dumfram.html

The letters (transliterated >from Cyrillic) are:

A | B | V | G | D | E | Zh | Z | K | M | S

About half of the project is completed. The method we are using is to
enter the names in Cyrillic (using the Windows 95 language keyboard
support setup for Russian), then running the Cyrillic files through an
Exel function created by Michael Tobias, then posting the resulting
Roman alphabet files on our website temporarily. When the project is
completed, it will be another JewishGen database.

If you have ancestry >from Bobruisk, the list makes fascinating reading.

To join the Bobruisk Interest Group (BIG), you can follow the
instructions found on our home page at

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/bobruisk/bobruisk.html

Best,

Don Mopsick, BIG Shammes


Re: Synagogue: North Shore Sons of Israel, Chicago, IL #general

E. Mott <emott@...>
 

Sheldon Lustig wrote:

Does anyone know if this Synagogue and any of its records still exists?

Please e-mail privately,

Marge Lustig
slustig@...
There is a shul called KINS, but it's in West Rogers Park and it's been
around a long time. I never really knew what the acronym stood for (we
always called Knishes in Noodle Soup). Could that be it? I've never
heard of a North Shore Sons of Israel; it sounds more like the name of a
lodge group or organization.


Esther Mott


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Synagogue: North Shore Sons of Israel, Chicago, IL #general

E. Mott <emott@...>
 

Sheldon Lustig wrote:

Does anyone know if this Synagogue and any of its records still exists?

Please e-mail privately,

Marge Lustig
slustig@...
There is a shul called KINS, but it's in West Rogers Park and it's been
around a long time. I never really knew what the acronym stood for (we
always called Knishes in Noodle Soup). Could that be it? I've never
heard of a North Shore Sons of Israel; it sounds more like the name of a
lodge group or organization.


Esther Mott


Lithuanian Jewish Inn Keeper #general

HankPropp@...
 

Shalom

The following listed email appeared on the Digest a few days ago. For me it
brings some major questions about my surname to mind and I would appreciate
any input on the subject:

Subject: The Polish Inn
From: "Paul Altesman" <paltesman@...>
Date: Thursday, 1 Oct 1998 19:59:44 -0400
You might also want to see "Economic Origins of anti-Semitism" by Hillel
Levine >(Yale Univ. Press), especially Chapter 4 and a bit in the
Introduction. A bit >abstract, but still interesting.

Incidentally, he cites estimates that 75% of the "rural" Jewish population
were >principally in the alcohol trade, known as the "Propinacja" (small-scale
production, >transport, and inns often all together). Usually when vital
records use the term >"leaseholder" (arrender) this involves inn keeping and
the alcohol trade. It is a >common (and often not necessarily flattering)
image of the rural Jew in Polish >literature and art.

Some of my oldest known ancestors were innkeepers and original Jewish settlers
in Skaudvile, Lithuania about 1790 CE. The original Jews there operated
roadside inns according to Skaudvile historical documents. Dr. Beider's
"Dictionary of Jewish Surnames of the Russia Empire" gives my surname as:
"PROP" (Noun) meaning "cork, plug or fool". It is a unique surname, all PROPs
or PROPPs throughout the world are decedents of Shimel and originally lived in
Skaudvile. The Skaudvile's 1816 Revision List lists my oldest known ancestor
as Shimel Hirshnevich PROBNOVICH and Dr. Beider must have taken that to mean
Propn in Yiddish which means the aforementioned. (I have never fully accepted
this meaning and I keep searching)

Now I read about a word: Propinacja and I note the similarity with our
surname. I have to wonder if our surname could have been an "occupation"
rather than a "noun"?? And if it was derived >from "PROPINACJA" to PROPN then
shorten to PROP. The surname PROP was firmly established by the 1847 Revision
List of Skaudvile, Lithuania.

I would ask anyone who wishes to either reply in private to my email address
or in public i.e. JewishGen Sig to give whatever input they would wish to.

Thank You
Hank Propp


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lithuanian Jewish Inn Keeper #general

HankPropp@...
 

Shalom

The following listed email appeared on the Digest a few days ago. For me it
brings some major questions about my surname to mind and I would appreciate
any input on the subject:

Subject: The Polish Inn
From: "Paul Altesman" <paltesman@...>
Date: Thursday, 1 Oct 1998 19:59:44 -0400
You might also want to see "Economic Origins of anti-Semitism" by Hillel
Levine >(Yale Univ. Press), especially Chapter 4 and a bit in the
Introduction. A bit >abstract, but still interesting.

Incidentally, he cites estimates that 75% of the "rural" Jewish population
were >principally in the alcohol trade, known as the "Propinacja" (small-scale
production, >transport, and inns often all together). Usually when vital
records use the term >"leaseholder" (arrender) this involves inn keeping and
the alcohol trade. It is a >common (and often not necessarily flattering)
image of the rural Jew in Polish >literature and art.

Some of my oldest known ancestors were innkeepers and original Jewish settlers
in Skaudvile, Lithuania about 1790 CE. The original Jews there operated
roadside inns according to Skaudvile historical documents. Dr. Beider's
"Dictionary of Jewish Surnames of the Russia Empire" gives my surname as:
"PROP" (Noun) meaning "cork, plug or fool". It is a unique surname, all PROPs
or PROPPs throughout the world are decedents of Shimel and originally lived in
Skaudvile. The Skaudvile's 1816 Revision List lists my oldest known ancestor
as Shimel Hirshnevich PROBNOVICH and Dr. Beider must have taken that to mean
Propn in Yiddish which means the aforementioned. (I have never fully accepted
this meaning and I keep searching)

Now I read about a word: Propinacja and I note the similarity with our
surname. I have to wonder if our surname could have been an "occupation"
rather than a "noun"?? And if it was derived >from "PROPINACJA" to PROPN then
shorten to PROP. The surname PROP was firmly established by the 1847 Revision
List of Skaudvile, Lithuania.

I would ask anyone who wishes to either reply in private to my email address
or in public i.e. JewishGen Sig to give whatever input they would wish to.

Thank You
Hank Propp


* a bit of humor #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Strictly speaking this isn't genealogy but once in
a while a little humour doesn't hurt. To those who think it's a waste
of bandwidth, our apologies in advance. Thanks Tom.

Thanks to G. Martin <glmartin@...> and
RootsWeb Review, Vol. 1, No. 17
here are the

TOP 10 INDICATORS THAT YOU'VE BECOME A GENE-AHOLIC

10. You introduce your daughter as your descendent.
9. You've never met any of the people you send e-mail to, even
though you're related.
8. You can recite your lineage back eight generations, but can't
remember your nephew's name.
7. You have more photographs of dead people than living ones.
6. You've ever taken a tape recorder and/or notebook to a family
reunion.
5. You've not only read the latest GEDCOM standard, but also you
understand it.
4. The local genealogy society borrows books >from you.
3. The only film you've seen in the last year was the 1880
census index.
2. More than half of your CD collection is made up of marriage
records or pedigrees.
1. Your elusive ancestor has been spotted in more different
places than Elvis!


Anshey Dowig Association #general

SADDLE1150@...
 

This Boston based organization consisted of emigres >from the Vilna (Dowig)
area who in turn raised monies to bring others >from the same village to this
country.
They are now defunct and their cemetery is under a Jewish umbrella group in MA
that maintains such cemeteries.
I would be curious to find anyone who is familiar with this name. I am a
former member of this association and descendent of one of the families.
George Freedman