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New York City Policemen #general

SNier88412@...
 

Can some >from New York City tell me how to retrieve records about a N.Y.
policeman during the 1920-1940s.

Please e-mail me privately.

Thanks,

Sue Nier


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York City Policemen #general

SNier88412@...
 

Can some >from New York City tell me how to retrieve records about a N.Y.
policeman during the 1920-1940s.

Please e-mail me privately.

Thanks,

Sue Nier


Babi Yar #general

Gail Mittelman <gailmann@...>
 

I just learned that 1 uncle stayed in Russia and was killed at Babi Yar. Is
this a famous battle? Town? Is there info I can get >from this. Should have
paid better attention on history class. Since I'm asking: if you send for a
ship manifest (I have made photo copies of the ones I need >from FHC) do you
get a photo copy or better than what you can personally do?
Thank you,Gail Mittelman

Searching BUDNICK, Chainitz, RUBINSTEIN , Svislovitz SHERMAN, Pochovitch.
GOTTLIEB Nagy Varad GOETZEN Budapest


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Babi Yar #general

Gail Mittelman <gailmann@...>
 

I just learned that 1 uncle stayed in Russia and was killed at Babi Yar. Is
this a famous battle? Town? Is there info I can get >from this. Should have
paid better attention on history class. Since I'm asking: if you send for a
ship manifest (I have made photo copies of the ones I need >from FHC) do you
get a photo copy or better than what you can personally do?
Thank you,Gail Mittelman

Searching BUDNICK, Chainitz, RUBINSTEIN , Svislovitz SHERMAN, Pochovitch.
GOTTLIEB Nagy Varad GOETZEN Budapest


Searching: Rabbi Mendes MEZA, Surinam, 18C #general

cynthia Brand Flu <cynthia.brandflu@...>
 

Looking for any information about a rabbi called David Mendes Meza
around the beginning of the 18 century. He was a Rabbi in Surinam(Dutch
West Indies).

Cynthia Brandflu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Rabbi Mendes MEZA, Surinam, 18C #general

cynthia Brand Flu <cynthia.brandflu@...>
 

Looking for any information about a rabbi called David Mendes Meza
around the beginning of the 18 century. He was a Rabbi in Surinam(Dutch
West Indies).

Cynthia Brandflu


Re: A joke & name help #general

JimYarin <jimyarin@...>
 

In the shtetl, born about 1850, a woman would be identified with her parents
according to how her patents were referred to. In other words, if Doba's father
was Benjamin who lived in Pilosk (or maybe Pilosk is an occupation), and he was
commonly called Benjamin Pilosky, then she would be referred to as Doba, David
Pilosky's. After she leaves home with her new husband, moves maybe to the US,
then in recollecting her family, she'll refer to her family not necessarily by
the surname ASSIGNED to her family, maybe Unsterbrofski, but according to how
her parents were known in the shtetl. This is the theory behind the common
problem of more than one maiden name. Remember also, women remarried, and their
daughters later in life may refer both to their birth and to their step-father
in recounting their maiden name.

Steve Slesinger writes:

In a son's marriage
papers he lists his mother's maiden name as "Doba Pilosky."

In a daughter's marriage papers, she refers to her mother's maiden name
as "Dora Umstebrofski".

There is almost 100% certainty that both of these are referring to the
same person. Can anybody theorize on such a vast difference between
Pilosky and Umstebrofski????

JimYarin@aol.com
Somerville, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: A joke & name help #general

JimYarin <jimyarin@...>
 

In the shtetl, born about 1850, a woman would be identified with her parents
according to how her patents were referred to. In other words, if Doba's father
was Benjamin who lived in Pilosk (or maybe Pilosk is an occupation), and he was
commonly called Benjamin Pilosky, then she would be referred to as Doba, David
Pilosky's. After she leaves home with her new husband, moves maybe to the US,
then in recollecting her family, she'll refer to her family not necessarily by
the surname ASSIGNED to her family, maybe Unsterbrofski, but according to how
her parents were known in the shtetl. This is the theory behind the common
problem of more than one maiden name. Remember also, women remarried, and their
daughters later in life may refer both to their birth and to their step-father
in recounting their maiden name.

Steve Slesinger writes:

In a son's marriage
papers he lists his mother's maiden name as "Doba Pilosky."

In a daughter's marriage papers, she refers to her mother's maiden name
as "Dora Umstebrofski".

There is almost 100% certainty that both of these are referring to the
same person. Can anybody theorize on such a vast difference between
Pilosky and Umstebrofski????

JimYarin@aol.com
Somerville, MA


Re: Theresienstadt and Auschwitz records #general

Marcelo Rosenbaum <marcelo@...>
 

Dear Peter

You may try the 'GEDENKBUCH - Opfer der Verfolgung der Juden unter der
national-sozialistischen Gewaltherrschaft in Deutschland 1933-1945'
available in most of the Holocaust-related libraries.



In article <36692f9d.9597081@post.demon.co.uk>, Peter Sinclair
<peter@limedene.demon.co.uk> writes
I am trying to establish the recorded date of death of the following
relatives:

Grandmother: Hilda WALDNER nee HESS
born 10 June 1869
died Theresienstadt 1943 ?
............
---
Marcelo Rosenbaum
marcelo@roferma.demon.co.uk

searching for:
KAHN (Laupheim), MORGENSTERN (Buchenbach), ROSENBAUM (Wonfurt), VANDEWART,
WASSERMANN (Osterberg), WILHERMSDOERFER.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Theresienstadt and Auschwitz records #general

Marcelo Rosenbaum <marcelo@...>
 

Dear Peter

You may try the 'GEDENKBUCH - Opfer der Verfolgung der Juden unter der
national-sozialistischen Gewaltherrschaft in Deutschland 1933-1945'
available in most of the Holocaust-related libraries.



In article <36692f9d.9597081@post.demon.co.uk>, Peter Sinclair
<peter@limedene.demon.co.uk> writes
I am trying to establish the recorded date of death of the following
relatives:

Grandmother: Hilda WALDNER nee HESS
born 10 June 1869
died Theresienstadt 1943 ?
............
---
Marcelo Rosenbaum
marcelo@roferma.demon.co.uk

searching for:
KAHN (Laupheim), MORGENSTERN (Buchenbach), ROSENBAUM (Wonfurt), VANDEWART,
WASSERMANN (Osterberg), WILHERMSDOERFER.


Conversion to Judaism in Germany #general

HarnsDD@...
 

Can anyone recommend the best method for finding information about a relative
who converted to Judaism in Cologne, Germany around 1920? Specifically, I'm
looking for the name of the synagogue, name of the rabbi, and whether it was
an Orthodox synagogue.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Harry Zolkower
Annapolis, Maryland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Conversion to Judaism in Germany #general

HarnsDD@...
 

Can anyone recommend the best method for finding information about a relative
who converted to Judaism in Cologne, Germany around 1920? Specifically, I'm
looking for the name of the synagogue, name of the rabbi, and whether it was
an Orthodox synagogue.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Harry Zolkower
Annapolis, Maryland


Jewish Genealogy Club in Rio De Janiero, Brazil #general

lsreiss@...
 

I am very interested to know if such a club has been organized and what
their e-mail
address is? I am looking for an aunt and uncle who went >from Ozarow,
Poland to Brazil about 1924
and their family.
Thanks Helen Nussbaum Reiss


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Genealogy Club in Rio De Janiero, Brazil #general

lsreiss@...
 

I am very interested to know if such a club has been organized and what
their e-mail
address is? I am looking for an aunt and uncle who went >from Ozarow,
Poland to Brazil about 1924
and their family.
Thanks Helen Nussbaum Reiss


Plaschow #general

Gurtler Family <gurtler@...>
 

For more information about the Plaschow Camp see the following web site:

http://www2.3dresearch.com/%7Ejune/Vincent/Camps/PlaszEng.html

David Gurtler
gurtler@netvision.net.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Plaschow #general

Gurtler Family <gurtler@...>
 

For more information about the Plaschow Camp see the following web site:

http://www2.3dresearch.com/%7Ejune/Vincent/Camps/PlaszEng.html

David Gurtler
gurtler@netvision.net.il


Searching: GIBIAN(SKI), Poland #general

Bheinrich@...
 

All this lumber discussion raises a question for me. My 90 year old father
maintains that our family name Gibian (Gibianski in Poland) means pine forest.
The earliest Gibianski mention in Landsmann was >from Giby. Is there anything
to the theory?

Also, family tradition has it that the Gibian family was descended >from the
Gibeonites. The Gibeonites were Temple servants in Jerusalem and were punished
by Joshua ( Josh 9:29) for their ruse and made to be hewers of wood and water
carriers. Gibeon still exists-now called al-Jib, but this theory sounds too
far fetched to have any truth. Any ideas?

There are two distinct Jewish branches of Gibian--Ours >from Suwalki and one
from Czechoslovakia. I have been in contact with many of those members, but we
can not seem to get a connection. I somehow feel we must be related, but don't
know whether the family went >from Czech to Poland or the other way around.
There are mentions of Gibianski in Poland starting in the late 1700's. Any
suggestions?

Barb Gibian Heinrich
Buffalo Grove, IL.

Searching GIBIANSKI-Giby,Sejny, Suwalki: ETTENSON -Suwalki, Alytus,
HEINRICH-Burgenland, SABATH and HIRSCH >from Vienna and Mastov
Czechoslovakia,SCHAFFER >from Riga.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: GIBIAN(SKI), Poland #general

Bheinrich@...
 

All this lumber discussion raises a question for me. My 90 year old father
maintains that our family name Gibian (Gibianski in Poland) means pine forest.
The earliest Gibianski mention in Landsmann was >from Giby. Is there anything
to the theory?

Also, family tradition has it that the Gibian family was descended >from the
Gibeonites. The Gibeonites were Temple servants in Jerusalem and were punished
by Joshua ( Josh 9:29) for their ruse and made to be hewers of wood and water
carriers. Gibeon still exists-now called al-Jib, but this theory sounds too
far fetched to have any truth. Any ideas?

There are two distinct Jewish branches of Gibian--Ours >from Suwalki and one
from Czechoslovakia. I have been in contact with many of those members, but we
can not seem to get a connection. I somehow feel we must be related, but don't
know whether the family went >from Czech to Poland or the other way around.
There are mentions of Gibianski in Poland starting in the late 1700's. Any
suggestions?

Barb Gibian Heinrich
Buffalo Grove, IL.

Searching GIBIANSKI-Giby,Sejny, Suwalki: ETTENSON -Suwalki, Alytus,
HEINRICH-Burgenland, SABATH and HIRSCH >from Vienna and Mastov
Czechoslovakia,SCHAFFER >from Riga.


Re: Prussia, Bavaria, etc. Research #general

Jozef Jacobs <jacobs@...>
 

I have found every document available, but all I can find for place of birth is
Prussia for one of them and Bavaria for the other (Husband and wife).
The name is LOWENSTEIN, not uncommon.
Linda Thorpe Caciola
Venice,CA
During a certain period, Prussia (Preussen) as well as Bavaria (Bayern)
used to be independant states f.i. kingdoms). The indication that you have
of the places of birth therefor is very rough. Maybe in combination
with the actual period that you are referring to, one could draw some
conclusions. Think it's a difficult one.

Jozef Jacobs
Hummelo (NL)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Prussia, Bavaria, etc. Research #general

Jozef Jacobs <jacobs@...>
 

I have found every document available, but all I can find for place of birth is
Prussia for one of them and Bavaria for the other (Husband and wife).
The name is LOWENSTEIN, not uncommon.
Linda Thorpe Caciola
Venice,CA
During a certain period, Prussia (Preussen) as well as Bavaria (Bayern)
used to be independant states f.i. kingdoms). The indication that you have
of the places of birth therefor is very rough. Maybe in combination
with the actual period that you are referring to, one could draw some
conclusions. Think it's a difficult one.

Jozef Jacobs
Hummelo (NL)