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Re: Searching: LURIA #general

Ben Noach <bnnch@...>
 

I'd like to go public with the scanty data I have of the LURIA-TREVES
connection.I am myself a descendant of Rabbi Jehuda Ashkenazi(ben Shimon
Trevish), through the line of my grandfather >from my mothers side-how and
in what way can be found in more detail in section 3 of my HomePage:

<http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Union/6375>

from two sources:-Ya'acobi-a well known Jerusalem genealogist and
historian, who researched Rashi's descendants-claiming the Treves dynasty
going back to Rashi's daughter Yocheved, and "Otsar Yisra'eel", bringing
the roots of the Treveses back to Rashi's daughter Miriam, I build two
trees, that I reluctantly would call "genealogies", because of so many
missing details. In any case, both trees are identical >from Rabbi
Jossel(Joselin Josef) of Rosheim(1478-1554). Trevishes were central figures
in Frankfurt a.M. in the 16th century and remained active as Avoth Beth Din
and as rabbinical authorities in Poland at least till the beginning of the
19th century.I do not think it right to call them "medieval".

The LURIA's come in as Rabbi Jossel of Rosheim daughter in law:-NN Bat
Aharon ben Yechiel, married to his son Moshe Ben Jossel-Josef (Elsass-
Loans),who died in 1618. She was her husband's second cousin, but I do not
know in what way. She is, by the way, one of the rare instances that my
data give details about spouses.

Bat Aharon was the daughter of Aaron Ben Yechiel Luria, granddaughter of
Yechiel ben Yochanan Luria.

"My" Rabbi Jehuda Ashkenazi was the grandson of Bat Aharon brother-in-
law,(brother of her husband) Shneor ben Joseph Jossel Trevish.

Mr. Enzo will recall our very friendly and detailed correspondence a year
and a half ago. The Italian branch of Trevish had its start with the second
expulsion >from France in 1395. The Ashkenaz branch started with the first
expulsion >from France in 1306, but they returned to France.More details
about these migrations can be found in "Otsar Yisra'eel".

If anyone has addtional genealogical data that can help me improving the
charting of the ancestry of Rabbi Yehuda Ashkenazi, especially spouses,
dates and geographical data -I shall be happy to receive these privately.

Shalom >from Israel,

BEN NOACH-<mailto:bnnch@internet-zahav.net>
<http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Union/6375>

MBernet@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 98-12-09 16:00:13 EST, Eric Lewis writes:

I am trying to trace the Canadian branch of the family of my late
father, surname LURIA, who visited England during the war whilst in the
Canadian services. >>
All Luries, Lurias etc. are said to be descentdants of R. Luria, the
Ashkenazi kabbalist of Safed (Galilee), known also as the Arie, or Ari
haQadosh, or Ari-zal, Many books have been published that trace his line.
The Luries held a reunion in Safed some 15-20 years ago; I am sure that a
number of valuable works were printed for that occasion. A visit to a
Jewish library may help you find a book that traces your branch.

Michael Bernet, New York

MODERATOR NOTE: Many if not most people with the name LURIA or variants
thereof are descended >from the prominent rabbinical family which traces
its ancestry to the medieval TREVES family and thence, traditionally, to
RaSHI. The connection of the Ari to this family has not, to the best of
our knowledge, been established. In addition, some unrelated LURIA
families adopted the name much later, possibly in tribute to the
prominence of either the old rabbinical family or the Ari. Dr Neil
Rosenstein and others have written of the rabbinical family in Avotaynu
and elsewhere.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching: LURIA #general

Ben Noach <bnnch@...>
 

I'd like to go public with the scanty data I have of the LURIA-TREVES
connection.I am myself a descendant of Rabbi Jehuda Ashkenazi(ben Shimon
Trevish), through the line of my grandfather >from my mothers side-how and
in what way can be found in more detail in section 3 of my HomePage:

<http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Union/6375>

from two sources:-Ya'acobi-a well known Jerusalem genealogist and
historian, who researched Rashi's descendants-claiming the Treves dynasty
going back to Rashi's daughter Yocheved, and "Otsar Yisra'eel", bringing
the roots of the Treveses back to Rashi's daughter Miriam, I build two
trees, that I reluctantly would call "genealogies", because of so many
missing details. In any case, both trees are identical >from Rabbi
Jossel(Joselin Josef) of Rosheim(1478-1554). Trevishes were central figures
in Frankfurt a.M. in the 16th century and remained active as Avoth Beth Din
and as rabbinical authorities in Poland at least till the beginning of the
19th century.I do not think it right to call them "medieval".

The LURIA's come in as Rabbi Jossel of Rosheim daughter in law:-NN Bat
Aharon ben Yechiel, married to his son Moshe Ben Jossel-Josef (Elsass-
Loans),who died in 1618. She was her husband's second cousin, but I do not
know in what way. She is, by the way, one of the rare instances that my
data give details about spouses.

Bat Aharon was the daughter of Aaron Ben Yechiel Luria, granddaughter of
Yechiel ben Yochanan Luria.

"My" Rabbi Jehuda Ashkenazi was the grandson of Bat Aharon brother-in-
law,(brother of her husband) Shneor ben Joseph Jossel Trevish.

Mr. Enzo will recall our very friendly and detailed correspondence a year
and a half ago. The Italian branch of Trevish had its start with the second
expulsion >from France in 1395. The Ashkenaz branch started with the first
expulsion >from France in 1306, but they returned to France.More details
about these migrations can be found in "Otsar Yisra'eel".

If anyone has addtional genealogical data that can help me improving the
charting of the ancestry of Rabbi Yehuda Ashkenazi, especially spouses,
dates and geographical data -I shall be happy to receive these privately.

Shalom >from Israel,

BEN NOACH-<mailto:bnnch@internet-zahav.net>
<http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Union/6375>

MBernet@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 98-12-09 16:00:13 EST, Eric Lewis writes:

I am trying to trace the Canadian branch of the family of my late
father, surname LURIA, who visited England during the war whilst in the
Canadian services. >>
All Luries, Lurias etc. are said to be descentdants of R. Luria, the
Ashkenazi kabbalist of Safed (Galilee), known also as the Arie, or Ari
haQadosh, or Ari-zal, Many books have been published that trace his line.
The Luries held a reunion in Safed some 15-20 years ago; I am sure that a
number of valuable works were printed for that occasion. A visit to a
Jewish library may help you find a book that traces your branch.

Michael Bernet, New York

MODERATOR NOTE: Many if not most people with the name LURIA or variants
thereof are descended >from the prominent rabbinical family which traces
its ancestry to the medieval TREVES family and thence, traditionally, to
RaSHI. The connection of the Ari to this family has not, to the best of
our knowledge, been established. In addition, some unrelated LURIA
families adopted the name much later, possibly in tribute to the
prominence of either the old rabbinical family or the Ari. Dr Neil
Rosenstein and others have written of the rabbinical family in Avotaynu
and elsewhere.


Gesher Galicia #general

Pollero - Rochelle K. <rpollero@...>
 

NOTICE TO MEMBERS GESHER GALICIA SIG:

It is time to renew your membership to Gesher Galicia. If you haven't yet
sent in your renewal form and check, please do so now. Renewals and
information must be received by December 31 in order for the information
to be included in the January 1999 Family Finder.

If you haven't received your renewal letter, please contact Peter Zavon at
<pzavon@compuserve.com>

To those who have an interest in Galicia but have not yet joined our
Special Interest Group (SIG), consider doing so. The dues are $20 per
year for USA and Canada and $27 per year for overseas.

To be included in the 1999 complete, updated Gesher Galicia Family Finder,
new members should send their information to Shelley Pollero by December
31.

To find out more about our SIG and get a membership form, you may:

Visit our website http://www.jewishgen.org/Galicia/

OR

Send a blank email message to <ggalicia@jewishgen.org>
for our InfoFile/Membership Form which you will receive by automated
return e-mail.

If you have any questions, please let us know.

For renewals and new members:
Shelley Kellerman Pollero at <rpollero@umd5.umd.edu>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gesher Galicia #general

Pollero - Rochelle K. <rpollero@...>
 

NOTICE TO MEMBERS GESHER GALICIA SIG:

It is time to renew your membership to Gesher Galicia. If you haven't yet
sent in your renewal form and check, please do so now. Renewals and
information must be received by December 31 in order for the information
to be included in the January 1999 Family Finder.

If you haven't received your renewal letter, please contact Peter Zavon at
<pzavon@compuserve.com>

To those who have an interest in Galicia but have not yet joined our
Special Interest Group (SIG), consider doing so. The dues are $20 per
year for USA and Canada and $27 per year for overseas.

To be included in the 1999 complete, updated Gesher Galicia Family Finder,
new members should send their information to Shelley Pollero by December
31.

To find out more about our SIG and get a membership form, you may:

Visit our website http://www.jewishgen.org/Galicia/

OR

Send a blank email message to <ggalicia@jewishgen.org>
for our InfoFile/Membership Form which you will receive by automated
return e-mail.

If you have any questions, please let us know.

For renewals and new members:
Shelley Kellerman Pollero at <rpollero@umd5.umd.edu>


Maspeth LI Cemetery #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

David Shapiro tells me that there is a Rozdol section in this
cemetery. If anyone has the opportunity to take an appropriate
photograph (I have no idea what there is to photograph there), I'd
be pleased to add it to the Rozdol web site that I am putting
together for ShtetLinks.

Thanx much.

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Maspeth LI Cemetery #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

David Shapiro tells me that there is a Rozdol section in this
cemetery. If anyone has the opportunity to take an appropriate
photograph (I have no idea what there is to photograph there), I'd
be pleased to add it to the Rozdol web site that I am putting
together for ShtetLinks.

Thanx much.

Israel Pickholtz


GenAmi Website updated #general

Micheline Gutmann <MichelineGUTMANN@...>
 

Dear friends,

GenAmi, association in France for International Jewish genealogy has
updated its Website. You can find some information concerning the contents
of the review number 6: questions and answers, also new editions and
documents. An important new : the Index of the Dictionary of Jewish
people who lived (at least a while ) in Brussels and even in other places
in Belgium, coming >from everywhere, is now easier to read.

If you wish to download it, it has been written in TEXT instead of WORD6
and everybody can read it. You have also the possibility to read it
directly.

If you need some technical information ask to Robbert de GROOT :
rdegroot@publicis.fr

If you need some more genealogical explanation ask to :

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris France
<MichelineGUTMANN@compuserve.com>
http://www.chez.com/genami


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GenAmi Website updated #general

Micheline Gutmann <MichelineGUTMANN@...>
 

Dear friends,

GenAmi, association in France for International Jewish genealogy has
updated its Website. You can find some information concerning the contents
of the review number 6: questions and answers, also new editions and
documents. An important new : the Index of the Dictionary of Jewish
people who lived (at least a while ) in Brussels and even in other places
in Belgium, coming >from everywhere, is now easier to read.

If you wish to download it, it has been written in TEXT instead of WORD6
and everybody can read it. You have also the possibility to read it
directly.

If you need some technical information ask to Robbert de GROOT :
rdegroot@publicis.fr

If you need some more genealogical explanation ask to :

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris France
<MichelineGUTMANN@compuserve.com>
http://www.chez.com/genami


Finkelstien Mariean #general

shimonoz
 

Hi!
I tried to mail to above jenner, her address bounces & failed.Her researcher
code 2423.
Searching:KABILI,UZIEL(code 8899) pls. mail privately.

Shimon Ouziel
Tel Aviv yaffo 69184 Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finkelstien Mariean #general

shimonoz
 

Hi!
I tried to mail to above jenner, her address bounces & failed.Her researcher
code 2423.
Searching:KABILI,UZIEL(code 8899) pls. mail privately.

Shimon Ouziel
Tel Aviv yaffo 69184 Israel


Cemetery in Rio De Janiero , Brazil #general

lsreiss@...
 

Can anyone help me locate the jewish cemeteries in Rio De Janiero, Brazil.
I am looking for my aunt Blima and uncle Saul or Shaul Nussbaum. They have
been in Rio since around 1924.

I looking for the Nussbaum daughter and grandchildren too. I lost contact
with them in recent years.


Thank you,


Helen Nussbaum Reiss
lsreiss@better.net


name Aggababba? #general

Shmuel and Shoshana Arnold <darnold@...>
 

Hi,

My grandfather's roots are in Iran. His name was
Aggababba. (In America, he called himself Arthur).
I believe Aggababba is a Persian name. Does
anyone know what this name means? Does it have
a Hebrew equivalent?

Thnaks in advance.

Shoshana
-------

Researching:

SILVERSTEIN
ARSHINOFF/ARSCHINOW
LEVI/LEVY (Iraq/Iran)
SHAHARBANI/SHARBANI
ABD-AL NABI (JACOB)
LIPSHITZ
JOSEPH
COHEN (Iraq/Iran)
JACOB


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cemetery in Rio De Janiero , Brazil #general

lsreiss@...
 

Can anyone help me locate the jewish cemeteries in Rio De Janiero, Brazil.
I am looking for my aunt Blima and uncle Saul or Shaul Nussbaum. They have
been in Rio since around 1924.

I looking for the Nussbaum daughter and grandchildren too. I lost contact
with them in recent years.


Thank you,


Helen Nussbaum Reiss
lsreiss@better.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen name Aggababba? #general

Shmuel and Shoshana Arnold <darnold@...>
 

Hi,

My grandfather's roots are in Iran. His name was
Aggababba. (In America, he called himself Arthur).
I believe Aggababba is a Persian name. Does
anyone know what this name means? Does it have
a Hebrew equivalent?

Thnaks in advance.

Shoshana
-------

Researching:

SILVERSTEIN
ARSHINOFF/ARSCHINOW
LEVI/LEVY (Iraq/Iran)
SHAHARBANI/SHARBANI
ABD-AL NABI (JACOB)
LIPSHITZ
JOSEPH
COHEN (Iraq/Iran)
JACOB


Seattle Jewish Newspaper #general

Steve Eisenstein <stevee@...>
 

As usual, the JewishGen group is a powerful ally. I received quite a
number of responses on the
name of the paper: Jewish Transcript, 2041 3rd Avenue, Seattle WA 98119
Phone 206-441-8479.

What we wanted was info for a subscription to send our son living up there.
It is $35 per year but there is a Chanukah special - $25 - and it comes
out twice a month. If the person we spoke to on the subscription is any
example of their responsiveness, they are extremely nice.

Thanks to all who responded.

Steve Eisenstein
Houston, TX


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seattle Jewish Newspaper #general

Steve Eisenstein <stevee@...>
 

As usual, the JewishGen group is a powerful ally. I received quite a
number of responses on the
name of the paper: Jewish Transcript, 2041 3rd Avenue, Seattle WA 98119
Phone 206-441-8479.

What we wanted was info for a subscription to send our son living up there.
It is $35 per year but there is a Chanukah special - $25 - and it comes
out twice a month. If the person we spoke to on the subscription is any
example of their responsiveness, they are extremely nice.

Thanks to all who responded.

Steve Eisenstein
Houston, TX


Re: lookup a LDS microfilm #general

Kesher@...
 

I know that you said to reply privately but I couldn't resist showing the
group the miracle of the internet. Last night, I read Nicole's request
for the Warsaw record. Since I am the one who indexed it for the JRI-
Poland database, it was a snap. This afternoon, I went to the FHC and
copied the record. So instead of Nicole waiting a month, it can be there
within 36 hours via e-mail with the help of my scanner.

Hadassah Lipsius
JRI-Poland, Transliteration Coordinator
Kew Gardens Hills, NY


a call for help :
I located a record indexed in JRI PL database.
The most accessible FHC for me told me on the phone that I would have to
wait at least a month to look at the microfilm .
This record is the first trace I find of the family of my mother, who
was entirely exterminated in Warsaw. the person bears the same name and
surname as my grand father: Berek ROTENSZTEIN, so he could well be the
gf of my gf, and it was a great emotion to find it.
Could someone look up the microfilm for me and send me a photocopy of
the record ? Of course I would pay for the expenses.
Please contact me privately.
Below is the information >from JRI PL database:
<snip.>..
Nicole Berline
Paris
MODERATOR NOTE: It may come as a surprise to Nicole Berline and others
outside North America to learn that LDS films often take more than a month
to arrive at local Family History Centers even in the US. If any
JewishGenner in or near Salt Lake City, or whose local FHC has these films
on long-term loan, would like to respond to this request, please do so
privately as requested.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: lookup a LDS microfilm #general

Kesher@...
 

I know that you said to reply privately but I couldn't resist showing the
group the miracle of the internet. Last night, I read Nicole's request
for the Warsaw record. Since I am the one who indexed it for the JRI-
Poland database, it was a snap. This afternoon, I went to the FHC and
copied the record. So instead of Nicole waiting a month, it can be there
within 36 hours via e-mail with the help of my scanner.

Hadassah Lipsius
JRI-Poland, Transliteration Coordinator
Kew Gardens Hills, NY


a call for help :
I located a record indexed in JRI PL database.
The most accessible FHC for me told me on the phone that I would have to
wait at least a month to look at the microfilm .
This record is the first trace I find of the family of my mother, who
was entirely exterminated in Warsaw. the person bears the same name and
surname as my grand father: Berek ROTENSZTEIN, so he could well be the
gf of my gf, and it was a great emotion to find it.
Could someone look up the microfilm for me and send me a photocopy of
the record ? Of course I would pay for the expenses.
Please contact me privately.
Below is the information >from JRI PL database:
<snip.>..
Nicole Berline
Paris
MODERATOR NOTE: It may come as a surprise to Nicole Berline and others
outside North America to learn that LDS films often take more than a month
to arrive at local Family History Centers even in the US. If any
JewishGenner in or near Salt Lake City, or whose local FHC has these films
on long-term loan, would like to respond to this request, please do so
privately as requested.


Interview tips requested #general

Claire Petersky <petersky@...>
 

I'm going to inteview my second cousin once removed who is in his 80s this
weekend. Like many of his generation, he regards anything to do with "the
Old Country" as backwards, old fashioned, or otherwise something to
apologize for. Since I am very interested in "the Old Country", I was
wondering if people had suggestions as to how to get information >from him
on this without causing embarrassment.

Also, since I'll be visiting him in a few days, I was thinking of bringing
a Chanukah gift. Any thoughts about what might be appropriate?

Many thanks.

--
Claire Petersky (petersky@halcyon.com)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Interview tips requested #general

Claire Petersky <petersky@...>
 

I'm going to inteview my second cousin once removed who is in his 80s this
weekend. Like many of his generation, he regards anything to do with "the
Old Country" as backwards, old fashioned, or otherwise something to
apologize for. Since I am very interested in "the Old Country", I was
wondering if people had suggestions as to how to get information >from him
on this without causing embarrassment.

Also, since I'll be visiting him in a few days, I was thinking of bringing
a Chanukah gift. Any thoughts about what might be appropriate?

Many thanks.

--
Claire Petersky (petersky@halcyon.com)