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Double Relationships #general

J Schamroth <scham@...>
 

If an individual is related to someone through both his parents, do
we determine the relationship (e.g., cousin, uncle etc) on the paternal
link, or do we base it on the closest link? For example, if my 1st
cousin marries my neice, is their child termed my first cousin once
removed, or is the child my grand-nephew?

from a genealogic perspective, does it really matter which relationship
is written down? Do genealogical software programs have a preferential
naming system?

J Schamroth


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Double Relationships #general

J Schamroth <scham@...>
 

If an individual is related to someone through both his parents, do
we determine the relationship (e.g., cousin, uncle etc) on the paternal
link, or do we base it on the closest link? For example, if my 1st
cousin marries my neice, is their child termed my first cousin once
removed, or is the child my grand-nephew?

from a genealogic perspective, does it really matter which relationship
is written down? Do genealogical software programs have a preferential
naming system?

J Schamroth


Unclaimed property #general

Rob Weisskirch <rweisskirch@...>
 

Yes, I know every once in a while someone posts something about finding
unclaimed riches.

However, I read in the paper about a great site http://www.unclaimed.org
which links to all unclaimed property offices across the states.

Start checking names anyplace your ancestors could have been. Also,
check on behalf of your own relatives and friends. Imagine what a nice
New Year's to have found free money.

Rob Weisskirch

P.S. I have no gains in advertising this site, I just think it's a great
resource.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Unclaimed property #general

Rob Weisskirch <rweisskirch@...>
 

Yes, I know every once in a while someone posts something about finding
unclaimed riches.

However, I read in the paper about a great site http://www.unclaimed.org
which links to all unclaimed property offices across the states.

Start checking names anyplace your ancestors could have been. Also,
check on behalf of your own relatives and friends. Imagine what a nice
New Year's to have found free money.

Rob Weisskirch

P.S. I have no gains in advertising this site, I just think it's a great
resource.


19th Annual Conference on Jewish Genealogy - August 8-13, 1999 -Bulletin #3 #general

Jgsny@...
 

The web site for the 19th Annual Conference on Jewish Genealogy now includes
the beginning of our list of lectures and speakers (about 35%). We'll keep
you posted on developments. The Conference will be held at the Marriott
Marquis Hotel, right in the heart of Manhattan. For more information
including hotel, travel, registration and program information, check the 1999
Conference web site at:

http://members.aol.com/nyc99conf

We will be updating the site regularly. If you have any questions, you can
reach us at nyc99conf@...

Estelle Guzik
President
JGS (NY)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 19th Annual Conference on Jewish Genealogy - August 8-13, 1999 -Bulletin #3 #general

Jgsny@...
 

The web site for the 19th Annual Conference on Jewish Genealogy now includes
the beginning of our list of lectures and speakers (about 35%). We'll keep
you posted on developments. The Conference will be held at the Marriott
Marquis Hotel, right in the heart of Manhattan. For more information
including hotel, travel, registration and program information, check the 1999
Conference web site at:

http://members.aol.com/nyc99conf

We will be updating the site regularly. If you have any questions, you can
reach us at nyc99conf@...

Estelle Guzik
President
JGS (NY)


Re: GOLDENBERG/GOLDBERG 1902 arrival #general

Michael <mfener@...>
 

joan breslow wrote:
LDS orig. located an index card showing a Joseph W. GOLDENBERG arriving
on SS Phila, Amer. Line,out of Southampton, into NY 12/1902. LDS
manifest copy shows nothing because all the ink has faded throughout the
entire manifest.
Cannot locate another, readable copy.

You can request a copy of the ship's manifest >from the National Archives in
Washington, DC. I have done this before when local copies were of poor
quality and been happy with the results.
Send an e-mail to inquire@... and ask for an NATF form 81 for each
request. The forms arrive within a week or so. Complete one form per
request.
I think the search and copy are made at a cost of around $10.

Regards,
Michael Fener
New York, USA
mfener@...
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Searching
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FENER - Hungary
FULEP/FULOP - Hungary
WEISS/WEISZ - Hungary
MARGULIES/MARGOLIS - Galicia
MICHAELSON/MICHALOFSKY - Russia
KULIK/KULIC/KULICK - Russia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: GOLDENBERG/GOLDBERG 1902 arrival #general

Michael <mfener@...>
 

joan breslow wrote:
LDS orig. located an index card showing a Joseph W. GOLDENBERG arriving
on SS Phila, Amer. Line,out of Southampton, into NY 12/1902. LDS
manifest copy shows nothing because all the ink has faded throughout the
entire manifest.
Cannot locate another, readable copy.

You can request a copy of the ship's manifest >from the National Archives in
Washington, DC. I have done this before when local copies were of poor
quality and been happy with the results.
Send an e-mail to inquire@... and ask for an NATF form 81 for each
request. The forms arrive within a week or so. Complete one form per
request.
I think the search and copy are made at a cost of around $10.

Regards,
Michael Fener
New York, USA
mfener@...
-------------
Searching
-------------
FENER - Hungary
FULEP/FULOP - Hungary
WEISS/WEISZ - Hungary
MARGULIES/MARGOLIS - Galicia
MICHAELSON/MICHALOFSKY - Russia
KULIK/KULIC/KULICK - Russia


Zimmerman, born 1908 somewhere in Poland #general

jordanz@...
 

Hello,

I'm trying to trace my roots. My grandfather's last name was Zimmerman. He
told me that he was born in Poland in 1908.

Where do I begin?

Jordan Zimmerman

MODERATOR NOTE: There is a wealth of information to help
you further your research. You can get a list of all the
resources available by accessing our homepage at :
http://www.jewishgen.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Zimmerman, born 1908 somewhere in Poland #general

jordanz@...
 

Hello,

I'm trying to trace my roots. My grandfather's last name was Zimmerman. He
told me that he was born in Poland in 1908.

Where do I begin?

Jordan Zimmerman

MODERATOR NOTE: There is a wealth of information to help
you further your research. You can get a list of all the
resources available by accessing our homepage at :
http://www.jewishgen.org


Re: Spanish names ending in Z Jewish origin? #general

Rob Weisskirch <rweisskirch@...>
 

If I remember my Spanish linguistics correctly, the Z in Spanish was
introduced during the Moorish times (roughly 700 to 1490 CE). And I do
think that it was the Jews at that time that introduced the actual
letter (and suffix of adding -ez to Spanish names).

This does not mean that all Gomezes and Hernandezes are of Jewish
origin. It means that the sounds and letters were of Hebraic/Ladino
origin.

Rob Weisskirch


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Spanish names ending in Z Jewish origin? #general

Rob Weisskirch <rweisskirch@...>
 

If I remember my Spanish linguistics correctly, the Z in Spanish was
introduced during the Moorish times (roughly 700 to 1490 CE). And I do
think that it was the Jews at that time that introduced the actual
letter (and suffix of adding -ez to Spanish names).

This does not mean that all Gomezes and Hernandezes are of Jewish
origin. It means that the sounds and letters were of Hebraic/Ladino
origin.

Rob Weisskirch


HOLSBERG/RAPOPORT #general

Alan Rosenfield <arosen@...>
 

We are searching for ancestors of Annie HOLSBERG, born somewhere in
Russia in Feb. 1868, daughter of Zeev Wolf HOLSBERG and Fannie RAPPORT
(probably RAPOPORT). Annie emigrated to US in 1890, settled in Chelsea MA, and
married Samuel LAVETTS in 1893. Annie had a brother Bernard, who sometimes
spelled his name HOLTZBERG. The HOLSBERG family may have had relatives in
England and/or in Pittsburgh.

Al Rosenfield
Columbus OH
arosen@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen HOLSBERG/RAPOPORT #general

Alan Rosenfield <arosen@...>
 

We are searching for ancestors of Annie HOLSBERG, born somewhere in
Russia in Feb. 1868, daughter of Zeev Wolf HOLSBERG and Fannie RAPPORT
(probably RAPOPORT). Annie emigrated to US in 1890, settled in Chelsea MA, and
married Samuel LAVETTS in 1893. Annie had a brother Bernard, who sometimes
spelled his name HOLTZBERG. The HOLSBERG family may have had relatives in
England and/or in Pittsburgh.

Al Rosenfield
Columbus OH
arosen@...


mother and child with same name #general

Arline and Sidney Sachs <sachs@...>
 

named their first child David.....here was a second, unfortunate David.....
My grandmother's youngest sister had the same name as her mother, as the
mother died the same day after giving birth.

that my maternal grandmother seems to have had the same name as her mother:
On my husband's side a later aunt was named for an earlier one that had died
in infancy. I don't think that would curse the child, just a way of naming
after the dead as is usualy done.

Arline Sachs


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen mother and child with same name #general

Arline and Sidney Sachs <sachs@...>
 

named their first child David.....here was a second, unfortunate David.....
My grandmother's youngest sister had the same name as her mother, as the
mother died the same day after giving birth.

that my maternal grandmother seems to have had the same name as her mother:
On my husband's side a later aunt was named for an earlier one that had died
in infancy. I don't think that would curse the child, just a way of naming
after the dead as is usualy done.

Arline Sachs


Barnert Synagogue, New Jersey, USA #general

Joel Ives <jives@...>
 

In answer to a number of questions on this subject, I believe that
Barnert Temple was founded in New Jersey in the mid 1800's. The
congregation moved to Paterson, New Jersey in the 1970's but is now
located in Franklin Lakes, New Jersey.

Joel Ives
Fair Lawn, N.J.
jives@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Barnert Synagogue, New Jersey, USA #general

Joel Ives <jives@...>
 

In answer to a number of questions on this subject, I believe that
Barnert Temple was founded in New Jersey in the mid 1800's. The
congregation moved to Paterson, New Jersey in the 1970's but is now
located in Franklin Lakes, New Jersey.

Joel Ives
Fair Lawn, N.J.
jives@...


German names in Poland #general

Lauren Davis <merlyn@...>
 

Gene Starn wrote:

The name Stern is a common in Germany ... but my Sterns come >from Poland.
Anyone else?
Many Jews in the Kingdom of Poland had Germanic sounding surnames
like AJZENBERG and SNYDER. A primary reason for this is that the
majority of what later became the Kingdom of Poland was under
Prussian and Austrian rule at the time of the first surname mandates,
due to the partitioning of Poland in the late 1700s. Hence many
Jews acquired the Germanic surnames, since surnames were acquired
while their parts of Poland were under regimes where German was
the government language at the time.

In 1815 the "Kingdom of Poland" (Congress Poland / Russian Poland)
was created at the Congress of Vienna, with the Tzar of Russia
appointed as the King of Poland. At the time of the Russian
surname mandate in the Kingdom of Poland 1821, some families
opted to retain/resurrect their Germanic surnames.

Lauren

Lauren B. Eisenberg Davis
merlyn@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen German names in Poland #general

Lauren Davis <merlyn@...>
 

Gene Starn wrote:

The name Stern is a common in Germany ... but my Sterns come >from Poland.
Anyone else?
Many Jews in the Kingdom of Poland had Germanic sounding surnames
like AJZENBERG and SNYDER. A primary reason for this is that the
majority of what later became the Kingdom of Poland was under
Prussian and Austrian rule at the time of the first surname mandates,
due to the partitioning of Poland in the late 1700s. Hence many
Jews acquired the Germanic surnames, since surnames were acquired
while their parts of Poland were under regimes where German was
the government language at the time.

In 1815 the "Kingdom of Poland" (Congress Poland / Russian Poland)
was created at the Congress of Vienna, with the Tzar of Russia
appointed as the King of Poland. At the time of the Russian
surname mandate in the Kingdom of Poland 1821, some families
opted to retain/resurrect their Germanic surnames.

Lauren

Lauren B. Eisenberg Davis
merlyn@...