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Re: Minnesota Jewish Genealogical Society? #general

Mike Posnick
 

To Herb Weisberg and the JewishGen list:

There presently is not a Jewish genealogy society in Minnesota, although
some of us have been attempting to organize one. If anyone is interested
in helping to organize one or belonging to one, please contact me.

In the meantime, I will try to answer questions that anyone has relating
to the Jewish communities that exist(ed) in Minnesota, the Dakotas,
western Wisconsin, and northeastern Iowa, and the individuals, families,
and organizations that compose(d) these communities. (I am a Minneapolis
native and resident with family roots in Wisconsin and Iowa.)

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota
e-mail: mpoz@earthlink.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Minnesota Jewish Genealogical Society? #general

Mike Posnick
 

To Herb Weisberg and the JewishGen list:

There presently is not a Jewish genealogy society in Minnesota, although
some of us have been attempting to organize one. If anyone is interested
in helping to organize one or belonging to one, please contact me.

In the meantime, I will try to answer questions that anyone has relating
to the Jewish communities that exist(ed) in Minnesota, the Dakotas,
western Wisconsin, and northeastern Iowa, and the individuals, families,
and organizations that compose(d) these communities. (I am a Minneapolis
native and resident with family roots in Wisconsin and Iowa.)

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota
e-mail: mpoz@earthlink.net


french Deporatations to Lithuania #general

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Subject: Re: deportation of Jews >from France
bettejoy@aol.com (BetteJoy)wrote:

Most of the French Jews were sent to Auschwitz where they perished.
Others >from the south of France were also sent to Vilna, Lithuania
where they were imprisoned in the primitive Ninth Fort until their
murder in the nearby forests.
This reply is partially incorrect. The last transport >from Drancy, no
73, in May 1944 (note the date) had 878 Jews taken to Lithuania. Most
were killed in the 9th Fort, Kovno (not Vilna). Some were taken to a
labor camp at Pravienskis and killed there, others were taken to Estonia
to be murdered. There were two survivors >from the 9th Fort, but overall
twenty survivors.

"In Pravieniskes in summer of 1944 were murdered 270 people, without
mentioning nationality or gender. {1941. IX. 4 were killed 253 men and
women} (vol. II, p. 393) >from Documents Accuse. "

For further information on the Lithuanian Shoah see

*Lithuanian Names Project - A letter to Litvaks, February 1999.
Note: The full text of this letter is on The Lithuanian Names Project
Web Site http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/lithnames.htm

Dr Saul Issroff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen french Deporatations to Lithuania #general

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Subject: Re: deportation of Jews >from France
bettejoy@aol.com (BetteJoy)wrote:

Most of the French Jews were sent to Auschwitz where they perished.
Others >from the south of France were also sent to Vilna, Lithuania
where they were imprisoned in the primitive Ninth Fort until their
murder in the nearby forests.
This reply is partially incorrect. The last transport >from Drancy, no
73, in May 1944 (note the date) had 878 Jews taken to Lithuania. Most
were killed in the 9th Fort, Kovno (not Vilna). Some were taken to a
labor camp at Pravienskis and killed there, others were taken to Estonia
to be murdered. There were two survivors >from the 9th Fort, but overall
twenty survivors.

"In Pravieniskes in summer of 1944 were murdered 270 people, without
mentioning nationality or gender. {1941. IX. 4 were killed 253 men and
women} (vol. II, p. 393) >from Documents Accuse. "

For further information on the Lithuanian Shoah see

*Lithuanian Names Project - A letter to Litvaks, February 1999.
Note: The full text of this letter is on The Lithuanian Names Project
Web Site http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/lithnames.htm

Dr Saul Issroff


Re: The name: "Shulie" #general

Alan Shuchat <ashuchat@...>
 

Miriam Camitta wrote:

I hope that I won't be repeating a topic that has been discussed to
death. I have had my grandmother's collection of postcards (in Russian)
translated into English. In several the writer asks her about a person
named "Shulie." It is likely that all of these writers were primarily
Yiddish speakers. Does anybody out there know what other names Shulie
might refer to?
Shulamit?

Alan Shuchat
ashuchat@wellesley.edu

Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta)
VINOKUR (Talnoye)
KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets)
BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The name: "Shulie" #general

Alan Shuchat <ashuchat@...>
 

Miriam Camitta wrote:

I hope that I won't be repeating a topic that has been discussed to
death. I have had my grandmother's collection of postcards (in Russian)
translated into English. In several the writer asks her about a person
named "Shulie." It is likely that all of these writers were primarily
Yiddish speakers. Does anybody out there know what other names Shulie
might refer to?
Shulamit?

Alan Shuchat
ashuchat@wellesley.edu

Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta)
VINOKUR (Talnoye)
KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets)
BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


book search MARGOLIOT #general

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

I would like to buy\find a copy of this book. Any ideas?

"Elef Margoliot (A Thousand Pearls: Biographies and Genealogical Charts
of More Than a Thousand Ancestors of Our Family. A lineage of Jewish
leaders >from ancient times until our father, Israel Arie Margulies), by
Meir Wunder (Institute for Commemoration of Galician Jewry, c/o Wunder,
13 Panim Meirot St., Jerusalem, 1994). This book lists in great detail
1,174 ancestors of Israel Arie Margulies. Many genealogical diagrams are
included."

Apparently this book also refers to the fact that the MARGOLIOT family
sometimes used the name SHAPIRO !...........


Miriam Margolyes
e-mail: 75342.3217@compuserve.com

searching:
MARGOLYES, TURIANSKY, PASEVITCH (PACEWICZ), STUPEL (all >from
Indura & Grodno, Belarus, then Glasgow):
SANDEMAN (SANDMANN) Middlesbrough, UK & Germany,South Africa:
LAZARUS (Berlin), GELBORD (Belarus & Edinburgh):
POSNER (Germany, prob. Berlin)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen book search MARGOLIOT #general

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

I would like to buy\find a copy of this book. Any ideas?

"Elef Margoliot (A Thousand Pearls: Biographies and Genealogical Charts
of More Than a Thousand Ancestors of Our Family. A lineage of Jewish
leaders >from ancient times until our father, Israel Arie Margulies), by
Meir Wunder (Institute for Commemoration of Galician Jewry, c/o Wunder,
13 Panim Meirot St., Jerusalem, 1994). This book lists in great detail
1,174 ancestors of Israel Arie Margulies. Many genealogical diagrams are
included."

Apparently this book also refers to the fact that the MARGOLIOT family
sometimes used the name SHAPIRO !...........


Miriam Margolyes
e-mail: 75342.3217@compuserve.com

searching:
MARGOLYES, TURIANSKY, PASEVITCH (PACEWICZ), STUPEL (all >from
Indura & Grodno, Belarus, then Glasgow):
SANDEMAN (SANDMANN) Middlesbrough, UK & Germany,South Africa:
LAZARUS (Berlin), GELBORD (Belarus & Edinburgh):
POSNER (Germany, prob. Berlin)


that can't be right! #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

In answering Phil Silverman's question which specifically stated that there
were half-siblings who had the same mother but different fathers, both with
the same surname David Frey replied "It is Jewish law....when a man died
without seed.....etc....etc...etc.

So who sowed the first seed for the first half of the half siblings? <grin>

Also, the two fathers mentioned could have been first cousins, both
carrying the same surname, couldn't they?

Carol Skydell,
Laguna Hills CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen that can't be right! #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

In answering Phil Silverman's question which specifically stated that there
were half-siblings who had the same mother but different fathers, both with
the same surname David Frey replied "It is Jewish law....when a man died
without seed.....etc....etc...etc.

So who sowed the first seed for the first half of the half siblings? <grin>

Also, the two fathers mentioned could have been first cousins, both
carrying the same surname, couldn't they?

Carol Skydell,
Laguna Hills CA


Hebrew Letters #general

Howard Coupland <bashko@...>
 

At the end of Hebrew names on my Grandparents Jahrzeit Chart there are two
letters - Ayin and Hay can someone tell me what they mean.

Howard Coupland
Leeds, UK.

Researching:
CAPLAN / PLOTKIN (Vilnius,Lithuania),PRENSKY (Kaunas,Lithuania),GRYNWALD
(Marijampole & Liudvinavas,Lithuania ),TANIEWSKI , OLECHONOWSKI
&FINKIELSZTEJN (Marijampole,Lithuania )
KLEPPER (Romania),SMOLENSKI (Eastern Europe),SHER / (Siauliau,Lithuania )
KATZ (Siauliau ,Varniai,Skuodas,Lithuania & Oslo,Norway ),ABRAMSON /
LIPMAN (Johannesburg, South Africa)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hebrew Letters #general

Howard Coupland <bashko@...>
 

At the end of Hebrew names on my Grandparents Jahrzeit Chart there are two
letters - Ayin and Hay can someone tell me what they mean.

Howard Coupland
Leeds, UK.

Researching:
CAPLAN / PLOTKIN (Vilnius,Lithuania),PRENSKY (Kaunas,Lithuania),GRYNWALD
(Marijampole & Liudvinavas,Lithuania ),TANIEWSKI , OLECHONOWSKI
&FINKIELSZTEJN (Marijampole,Lithuania )
KLEPPER (Romania),SMOLENSKI (Eastern Europe),SHER / (Siauliau,Lithuania )
KATZ (Siauliau ,Varniai,Skuodas,Lithuania & Oslo,Norway ),ABRAMSON /
LIPMAN (Johannesburg, South Africa)


Searching: HARRIS/SHAPIRO/BAKER---Toronto #general

Shirlee & Louis Finn <shirlou@...>
 

Does anyone please know the whereabouts of the following people in Toronto
Canada.?

Paul SHAPIRO son of Harry & Molly Shirley nee HARRIS

Stephen, Howard, and Peter BAKER sons of Morris. H. & Charlotte Leona nee
Harris.

Searching Tulchin. Ukraine for CHULFAN & BORJIMOLNI


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: HARRIS/SHAPIRO/BAKER---Toronto #general

Shirlee & Louis Finn <shirlou@...>
 

Does anyone please know the whereabouts of the following people in Toronto
Canada.?

Paul SHAPIRO son of Harry & Molly Shirley nee HARRIS

Stephen, Howard, and Peter BAKER sons of Morris. H. & Charlotte Leona nee
Harris.

Searching Tulchin. Ukraine for CHULFAN & BORJIMOLNI


New Jersey Funeral homes #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

Can someone with New Jersey experience tell me what would be
the most likely Jewish funeral homes used for deaths in Elizabeth
in 1970 and Farmingdale in 1976? (No use sending me general
phone lookups - I can do that myself...)

Israel Pickholtz


Trachtenberg #general

Anita Citron <anitac1@...>
 

Thanks to everyone for their Trachtenberg suggestions. Truly appreciated.


Anita Citron
anitac1@erols.com
Flushing (NYC), New York
Searching NADWORNY, SILVER (Odessa) MEDNIK/WILDMAN (Berdichev)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Jersey Funeral homes #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

Can someone with New Jersey experience tell me what would be
the most likely Jewish funeral homes used for deaths in Elizabeth
in 1970 and Farmingdale in 1976? (No use sending me general
phone lookups - I can do that myself...)

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Trachtenberg #general

Anita Citron <anitac1@...>
 

Thanks to everyone for their Trachtenberg suggestions. Truly appreciated.


Anita Citron
anitac1@erols.com
Flushing (NYC), New York
Searching NADWORNY, SILVER (Odessa) MEDNIK/WILDMAN (Berdichev)


Re: NYC Marriage Certificate #general

A. E. Jordan
 

Regarding your marriage liscense questions for New York City. There are
two different places in New York City that you can get the exact same
information.

I sent away to the office on Center Street and it took about two months
and they charged more. I had to send away because the marriage was from
1944 and the records are only open to the public up to 1937 for marriages.
If you send to Center Street yes you have to send a money order. There was
a phone number and you could talk to a person but she was not very helpful.
This is the City Clerk's Office and they are located at 1 Center Street,
Room 252 New York, NY 10007. Phone is 212-669-8898. The fee is $15 for
the search and certificate plus $1 for each additional year you ask them
to search. So if you need them to search three years you send $17. The
great thing is that they are so honest that they returned $2 to me because
they only had to search one year when I sent for it. The bad thing is they
charge you even if they do not find the certificate. The information they
wanted was the names plus any other information you could give such as
parents names or ages or whatever so that they were sure they had the right
person.

If you have a friend with some patience send them to the NYC Department of
Records - Municipal Archives at 31 Chambers Street, Room 103, New York, NY
10007. Phone is 212-788-8580. For marriages up to 1937 they will let you
do your own searching on the microfilm. It is a two stage process because
you have to check the index by borough and when you find the possible
canidates you write down the certificate numbers and then you search out
each certificate also on the microfilm. When you find the one you want you
hand it in and they print it for you. The feee is $5 to use the microfilm
machine for any part or the entire day plus $5 for each certificate you
print. Not sure but I think they might also do it by mail -- but you would
have to call and ask.

Hope this helps everyone.

Allan Jordan

aejordan@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC Marriage Certificate #general

A. E. Jordan
 

Regarding your marriage liscense questions for New York City. There are
two different places in New York City that you can get the exact same
information.

I sent away to the office on Center Street and it took about two months
and they charged more. I had to send away because the marriage was from
1944 and the records are only open to the public up to 1937 for marriages.
If you send to Center Street yes you have to send a money order. There was
a phone number and you could talk to a person but she was not very helpful.
This is the City Clerk's Office and they are located at 1 Center Street,
Room 252 New York, NY 10007. Phone is 212-669-8898. The fee is $15 for
the search and certificate plus $1 for each additional year you ask them
to search. So if you need them to search three years you send $17. The
great thing is that they are so honest that they returned $2 to me because
they only had to search one year when I sent for it. The bad thing is they
charge you even if they do not find the certificate. The information they
wanted was the names plus any other information you could give such as
parents names or ages or whatever so that they were sure they had the right
person.

If you have a friend with some patience send them to the NYC Department of
Records - Municipal Archives at 31 Chambers Street, Room 103, New York, NY
10007. Phone is 212-788-8580. For marriages up to 1937 they will let you
do your own searching on the microfilm. It is a two stage process because
you have to check the index by borough and when you find the possible
canidates you write down the certificate numbers and then you search out
each certificate also on the microfilm. When you find the one you want you
hand it in and they print it for you. The feee is $5 to use the microfilm
machine for any part or the entire day plus $5 for each certificate you
print. Not sure but I think they might also do it by mail -- but you would
have to call and ask.

Hope this helps everyone.

Allan Jordan

aejordan@aol.com