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re Steamship Arrival Dates #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Cindy asks:

.... does anyone know which would be more accurate, the INS index cards or
Cimorelli?

Cimorelli uses Morton Allan Directory of European Passenger Ship Arrivals
to create it's database. Morton Allan is known to be off in some cases,
and by as much as a week. Go with what the INS provided, it's probably a
safer bet.

Carol Skydell
Laguna Hills, CA
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re Steamship Arrival Dates #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Cindy asks:

.... does anyone know which would be more accurate, the INS index cards or
Cimorelli?

Cimorelli uses Morton Allan Directory of European Passenger Ship Arrivals
to create it's database. Morton Allan is known to be off in some cases,
and by as much as a week. Go with what the INS provided, it's probably a
safer bet.

Carol Skydell
Laguna Hills, CA
Yad Vashem #general

Sallyann Sack <sallyannsack@...>
 

Dear Colleagues,

A full report on the Yad Vashem project to computerize all of its lists
of names into a single database starts on page 4 of most current issue of
AVOTAYNU [Vol. XIV, No. 4, Winter 1998].

A more detailed listing of its genealogically valuable holdings may be
ofund in the book Jewish Genealogical Research in Israel by Sallyann Sack
and the Israel Genealogical Society (Avotaynu, 1995).

The most recent report I have had >from Yaacov Lozowick is a reprint of a
recent Associated Press item saying that Yad Vashem has forwarded one
million computerized names to the Volker Commission which is
investigating the unpaid Swiss bank account.

Sallyann Amdur Sack, editor
AVOTAYNU, the International Review of Jewish Genealogy
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yad Vashem #general

Sallyann Sack <sallyannsack@...>
 

Dear Colleagues,

A full report on the Yad Vashem project to computerize all of its lists
of names into a single database starts on page 4 of most current issue of
AVOTAYNU [Vol. XIV, No. 4, Winter 1998].

A more detailed listing of its genealogically valuable holdings may be
ofund in the book Jewish Genealogical Research in Israel by Sallyann Sack
and the Israel Genealogical Society (Avotaynu, 1995).

The most recent report I have had >from Yaacov Lozowick is a reprint of a
recent Associated Press item saying that Yad Vashem has forwarded one
million computerized names to the Volker Commission which is
investigating the unpaid Swiss bank account.

Sallyann Amdur Sack, editor
AVOTAYNU, the International Review of Jewish Genealogy
Re: Reading gravestones #general

Rica Goldberg
 

Dear Genners

Today, I have spent a few hours in an old cemetery in a suburb of Manchester
looking for, and finding, the gravestones of my maternal great-grandparents.
My grandmother was one of their 9 children all born in Europe. 8 came to
Manchester including, strangely enough, the five children of one of their sons
who was murdered in Europe.

On my great-grandfathers tombstone it was written that he was Iddle (Adokph)
Kaminsky the son of Nachamed (Nun, Chess, Mem, Yud, Daled). I am not familiar
with this name. Is anyone else?

His wife was the daygther of Moisha and her name was Mirat Rifka. I have
never heard of the name Mirat. I know there are many of you who understand
the origins of these names and I would like to hear more on Nachamed and
Mirat. Many thanks in anticipation.

Rica B Goldberg (Mrs)
Manchester, England
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Reading gravestones #general

Rica Goldberg
 

Dear Genners

Today, I have spent a few hours in an old cemetery in a suburb of Manchester
looking for, and finding, the gravestones of my maternal great-grandparents.
My grandmother was one of their 9 children all born in Europe. 8 came to
Manchester including, strangely enough, the five children of one of their sons
who was murdered in Europe.

On my great-grandfathers tombstone it was written that he was Iddle (Adokph)
Kaminsky the son of Nachamed (Nun, Chess, Mem, Yud, Daled). I am not familiar
with this name. Is anyone else?

His wife was the daygther of Moisha and her name was Mirat Rifka. I have
never heard of the name Mirat. I know there are many of you who understand
the origins of these names and I would like to hear more on Nachamed and
Mirat. Many thanks in anticipation.

Rica B Goldberg (Mrs)
Manchester, England
Name and Canada Information #general

Len Pincus <lennyp@...>
 

Thanks to the efforts of one great New York Jgenner I now have photos of my
Grandparents gravestone. Surprise was that Bubby had a middle name but I
can't figure it out. (left to right) Shin Aleph Shin Ayin. Anyone care to
come up with a translation?

A Canadian friend remembered that his mother came in through Halifax NS in
about 1912. How would I find the manifest? I know how to find US ship data
but not Canadian data. BTW these people settled in Canada and raised a
large family there.

Len Pincus
Murrieta, CA

lennyp@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Name and Canada Information #general

Len Pincus <lennyp@...>
 

Thanks to the efforts of one great New York Jgenner I now have photos of my
Grandparents gravestone. Surprise was that Bubby had a middle name but I
can't figure it out. (left to right) Shin Aleph Shin Ayin. Anyone care to
come up with a translation?

A Canadian friend remembered that his mother came in through Halifax NS in
about 1912. How would I find the manifest? I know how to find US ship data
but not Canadian data. BTW these people settled in Canada and raised a
large family there.

Len Pincus
Murrieta, CA

lennyp@...
Burial Society #general

Max Bundman <71574.177@...>
 

I have a contract for a stone to be inscribed and placed on a grave at
Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn in 1933. The burial society is shown as
what appears to be:

3 Chag Gertners

Can anyone tell me the full name of this Society, and whether it is
possible to contact them today.

Many thanks in advance.

Max Bundman
Dayton OH

Searching for any & all descendants of PLONSKY living in Brooklyn from
1880 & later.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Burial Society #general

Max Bundman <71574.177@...>
 

I have a contract for a stone to be inscribed and placed on a grave at
Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn in 1933. The burial society is shown as
what appears to be:

3 Chag Gertners

Can anyone tell me the full name of this Society, and whether it is
possible to contact them today.

Many thanks in advance.

Max Bundman
Dayton OH

Searching for any & all descendants of PLONSKY living in Brooklyn from
1880 & later.
Nonexistent London birth certificate, 1897 #general

David Gordon <dgordon@...>
 

I am having an unexpected and somewhat confusing problem that I am
hoping someone with more experience can help me solve. My
great-grandparents emigrated >from Lithuania to England late in the 19th
century (I do not know exactly when). They were married in London in
1894--I have a copy of their marriage certificate. They had six
children, the first five of whom were born in London. I have a birth
certificate for the oldest son (1893!). My grandfather was supposedly
the second child--everything >from death certificate to social security
records to family records agree that his birth date was Nov. 30, 1897.
The problem is that, despite two separate searches conducted by two
different people, no one in the records office can find any record of
his being born at all between 1895 and 1899.
I could, of course, search an earlier or later period--and suspect
that may ultimately be the easiest solution. Still and all, I find this
perplexing. Should I? Any thoughts or comments?
David Gordon
dgordon@...
Chicago, Illinois
Searching:
HORWITZ: Smolevichi, Lapichi, Bobruisk?, GORDON: Kaunas (or Vilnius?)
GEBALOVITCH: Borisov, LEVIN: Kaunas, DRAZIN: Bobruisk
BENENSON: Borisov, HURWITZ: Gomel
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Nonexistent London birth certificate, 1897 #general

David Gordon <dgordon@...>
 

I am having an unexpected and somewhat confusing problem that I am
hoping someone with more experience can help me solve. My
great-grandparents emigrated >from Lithuania to England late in the 19th
century (I do not know exactly when). They were married in London in
1894--I have a copy of their marriage certificate. They had six
children, the first five of whom were born in London. I have a birth
certificate for the oldest son (1893!). My grandfather was supposedly
the second child--everything >from death certificate to social security
records to family records agree that his birth date was Nov. 30, 1897.
The problem is that, despite two separate searches conducted by two
different people, no one in the records office can find any record of
his being born at all between 1895 and 1899.
I could, of course, search an earlier or later period--and suspect
that may ultimately be the easiest solution. Still and all, I find this
perplexing. Should I? Any thoughts or comments?
David Gordon
dgordon@...
Chicago, Illinois
Searching:
HORWITZ: Smolevichi, Lapichi, Bobruisk?, GORDON: Kaunas (or Vilnius?)
GEBALOVITCH: Borisov, LEVIN: Kaunas, DRAZIN: Bobruisk
BENENSON: Borisov, HURWITZ: Gomel
Slutsk SIG Meeting at 19th Annual Conference on Jewish Genealogy, Aug 8-13, 1999 #general

Jgsny@...
 

Add the Slutzk Special Interest Group to the list of those SIGs that will
meet at the 19th Annual Conference on Jewish Genealogy in New York City this
summer.
Each SIG meeting will be run by its members. SIGs provide a great way for
people with common interests to exchange information and learn >from each
other. The following is the updated list of SIG meetings that will take
place at the Conference. Check the Confernce web site
(http://members.aol.com/nyc99conf) periodically for additional listings as
they are scheduled:

Belarus
Galicia
Germany
Grodno
Hungarian
Kielce Radom
Latin America
Latvia
Litvak
Romania
Slutzk
South Africa
Volhynia
Yizkor Book Project

A copy of the Conference registration application can be copied directly from
the web site. The list of lectures (now over 100) is being updated weekly.
The conference will be held at the Mariott Marquis Hotel, located in the heart
of revitalized Times Square -- accessible to all archives, libraries and
resources for genealogical research. Provide the Conference information when
you make your reservations with the hotel and airlines in order to receive the
special rates for attendees.

See you this summer!
Estelle Guzik, President
JGS (NY)

PS If you have any questions, the Conference email address is
nyc99conf@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Slutsk SIG Meeting at 19th Annual Conference on Jewish Genealogy, Aug 8-13, 1999 #general

Jgsny@...
 

Add the Slutzk Special Interest Group to the list of those SIGs that will
meet at the 19th Annual Conference on Jewish Genealogy in New York City this
summer.
Each SIG meeting will be run by its members. SIGs provide a great way for
people with common interests to exchange information and learn >from each
other. The following is the updated list of SIG meetings that will take
place at the Conference. Check the Confernce web site
(http://members.aol.com/nyc99conf) periodically for additional listings as
they are scheduled:

Belarus
Galicia
Germany
Grodno
Hungarian
Kielce Radom
Latin America
Latvia
Litvak
Romania
Slutzk
South Africa
Volhynia
Yizkor Book Project

A copy of the Conference registration application can be copied directly from
the web site. The list of lectures (now over 100) is being updated weekly.
The conference will be held at the Mariott Marquis Hotel, located in the heart
of revitalized Times Square -- accessible to all archives, libraries and
resources for genealogical research. Provide the Conference information when
you make your reservations with the hotel and airlines in order to receive the
special rates for attendees.

See you this summer!
Estelle Guzik, President
JGS (NY)

PS If you have any questions, the Conference email address is
nyc99conf@...
HELP NEEDED IN FRANCE #general

EDrezner@...
 

Hello
i 'm french and living in Paris
and i need help in Paris, (funny, isn't it?)



i need any idea or connection with an attorney, in Paris because...

i receiced >from the person who, living in Poland, help me in my genealogical
researches, 2 papers to give her my power to look in the Polish Archives, USC
and AP at my place.
this is also the "traditionnal" autorisation needed and paid to the Polish
archives to find our ancestors in this country
The fact is that :
- the 2 autorisations, mentionning her name and adress is written in English (
because it's easier for her to find a translation in Poland >from english
than in french)
- she said to me that these 2 papers must be completed by my own coordinats
and completed and certified by an attorney
After i return the papers fully completed, she will make it translate in
Polish and certified by autorities, so she will have the autorisation to work
officially in the Polish archives(USC and AP)
till now, she worked for me with others searchers's autorisation.
BY THE WAY , I' M LOOKING FOR AN ATTORNEY IN PARIS, USED TO THESE DOCUMENTS
AND USED TO ENGLISH TOO!!!!!
Does anyone, in his reserches, had to pass this paper problem, which is
simple, but the ways are complicated?
Please, any idea will be welcome, 'cause i'm stopped for a while just because
she hasn't my official power and Polish autorisations to have access to my
ancestors destiny and fate.

hope someone , in France, knows what to do

Elsa DREZNER
Paris
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen HELP NEEDED IN FRANCE #general

EDrezner@...
 

Hello
i 'm french and living in Paris
and i need help in Paris, (funny, isn't it?)



i need any idea or connection with an attorney, in Paris because...

i receiced >from the person who, living in Poland, help me in my genealogical
researches, 2 papers to give her my power to look in the Polish Archives, USC
and AP at my place.
this is also the "traditionnal" autorisation needed and paid to the Polish
archives to find our ancestors in this country
The fact is that :
- the 2 autorisations, mentionning her name and adress is written in English (
because it's easier for her to find a translation in Poland >from english
than in french)
- she said to me that these 2 papers must be completed by my own coordinats
and completed and certified by an attorney
After i return the papers fully completed, she will make it translate in
Polish and certified by autorities, so she will have the autorisation to work
officially in the Polish archives(USC and AP)
till now, she worked for me with others searchers's autorisation.
BY THE WAY , I' M LOOKING FOR AN ATTORNEY IN PARIS, USED TO THESE DOCUMENTS
AND USED TO ENGLISH TOO!!!!!
Does anyone, in his reserches, had to pass this paper problem, which is
simple, but the ways are complicated?
Please, any idea will be welcome, 'cause i'm stopped for a while just because
she hasn't my official power and Polish autorisations to have access to my
ancestors destiny and fate.

hope someone , in France, knows what to do

Elsa DREZNER
Paris
Searching: SALAMONCZYK #general

MAX HIMEL
 

Am looking for descendants of Henry and David SALAMONCZYC of Toronto.
They may have come >from Piotrkow Kujawski in Poland
Max Himel
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: SALAMONCZYK #general

MAX HIMEL
 

Am looking for descendants of Henry and David SALAMONCZYC of Toronto.
They may have come >from Piotrkow Kujawski in Poland
Max Himel
First Class Passenger Immigrant Question #general

NormK12065
 

JGenrs,

I am looking for a relative that supposedly had enough money to immigrate as a
first class passenger. I was told he did arrive at Ellis Island in 1912 but I
am unable to find him in the soundex index. Did first class passengers have
to go through the same procedures as steerage passengers at Ellis Island?
Would there be record somewhere else of the first class passengers?

Thanks for any insight.

Norm Katz
Norfolk, VA
e-mail: normk12065@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen First Class Passenger Immigrant Question #general

NormK12065
 

JGenrs,

I am looking for a relative that supposedly had enough money to immigrate as a
first class passenger. I was told he did arrive at Ellis Island in 1912 but I
am unable to find him in the soundex index. Did first class passengers have
to go through the same procedures as steerage passengers at Ellis Island?
Would there be record somewhere else of the first class passengers?

Thanks for any insight.

Norm Katz
Norfolk, VA
e-mail: normk12065@...
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