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Buenos Aires - MAKRANSKY
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Paul & Dana <paul.dana@...>
I am searching for records relating to Israel MAKRANSKY,
who moved >from Grodno Guberniya to Buenos Aires, Argentina during the 1890's. Does anyone know where I might search for records in Argentina for any records regarding him? Thank you in advance for your assistance. Paul Ginsburg Bethesda, MD Searching: GINSBURG, WILCHER, MAKRANSKY, PERCOWICZ/PERTZOVITCH, NITZBURG, NOVASADSKY MODERATOR NOTE: Check the JewishGen Archived Messages...many discussions have been held on this topic. Use Argentina, Buenos Aires, JCA (Jewish Colonization Assoc.), CEMLA as search words. Also consider joining latamsig hosted by JewishGen. See Special Interest Groups on the homepage, http://www.jewishgen.org
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Buenos Aires - MAKRANSKY
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Paul & Dana <paul.dana@...>
I am searching for records relating to Israel MAKRANSKY,
who moved >from Grodno Guberniya to Buenos Aires, Argentina during the 1890's. Does anyone know where I might search for records in Argentina for any records regarding him? Thank you in advance for your assistance. Paul Ginsburg Bethesda, MD Searching: GINSBURG, WILCHER, MAKRANSKY, PERCOWICZ/PERTZOVITCH, NITZBURG, NOVASADSKY MODERATOR NOTE: Check the JewishGen Archived Messages...many discussions have been held on this topic. Use Argentina, Buenos Aires, JCA (Jewish Colonization Assoc.), CEMLA as search words. Also consider joining latamsig hosted by JewishGen. See Special Interest Groups on the homepage, http://www.jewishgen.org
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Correction to Warszawa Research Group message
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H Lipsius <warszawagroup@...>
Some how in the cutting and pasting of our message on the
Warszawa Research Group a digit was cut off. There were 375,000 Jews in Warszawa prior to the second World War. That was 29.1% of the Warszawa population, which was actually not the high point. Some bit of statistics for those that are interested. In 1797 there were 7,700 Jews in Warszawa In 1816 there were 15,600 Jews or 19.2 % of the population and in 1864 there were 72,800 or 32.7% of the population. Not all Jews lived in the Shtetls. Yes, Jews did live in the city and we are proud to be part of that group. Warszawa Group!! (H. Lipsius)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Correction to Warszawa Research Group message
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H Lipsius <warszawagroup@...>
Some how in the cutting and pasting of our message on the
Warszawa Research Group a digit was cut off. There were 375,000 Jews in Warszawa prior to the second World War. That was 29.1% of the Warszawa population, which was actually not the high point. Some bit of statistics for those that are interested. In 1797 there were 7,700 Jews in Warszawa In 1816 there were 15,600 Jews or 19.2 % of the population and in 1864 there were 72,800 or 32.7% of the population. Not all Jews lived in the Shtetls. Yes, Jews did live in the city and we are proud to be part of that group. Warszawa Group!! (H. Lipsius)
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Re: Lomza yeshiva
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Avi Rabinowitz <avirab@...>
There is a Lomza yeshiva in Petach Tikva in Israel, established by
descendants (?) of the original yeshiva heads. My grandfather learned in Lomza 90 years ago as a child.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Lomza yeshiva
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Avi Rabinowitz <avirab@...>
There is a Lomza yeshiva in Petach Tikva in Israel, established by
descendants (?) of the original yeshiva heads. My grandfather learned in Lomza 90 years ago as a child.
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And then there are dead ends in genealogy research........
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David Goldman <davic@...>
It suddenly hit me today that occasionally there are dead-ends in our
genealogy research, and not just because we can't usually go beyond several generations. Take the situation of the families (if they exist) of my great-grandmother's siblings. Not only was she not regularly in touch with them when they were in Russia and she in Canada, but she never bothered to tell her children or grandchildren who those people were, where they lived or who their children were......over a period of say 60 years. Thus there may be out their descendants of her siblings who could remain anonymous forever....... David Goldman davic@erols.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen And then there are dead ends in genealogy research........
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David Goldman <davic@...>
It suddenly hit me today that occasionally there are dead-ends in our
genealogy research, and not just because we can't usually go beyond several generations. Take the situation of the families (if they exist) of my great-grandmother's siblings. Not only was she not regularly in touch with them when they were in Russia and she in Canada, but she never bothered to tell her children or grandchildren who those people were, where they lived or who their children were......over a period of say 60 years. Thus there may be out their descendants of her siblings who could remain anonymous forever....... David Goldman davic@erols.com
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Re: 1920's Mt. Zion Burial Societies -NY
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Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
If those Societies still exist, the administrative office at Mt. Zion
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Cemetery will probably have the name and address of a contact. Many societies filled their plots in Mt Zion and later obtained plots in cemeteries further out on Long Island, so you might also check with the administrators at cemeteries like Beth Davis and Mount Hebron. Peter Zavon Penfield, NY PZAVON@Worldnet.att.net DISD123@aol.com wrote in message <58b0da10.248a8332@aol.com>...
Recently I located two relatives that were buried at Mt. Zion Cemetery in
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Times Obituaries
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Jerome Silverbush <jsilverbus@...>
I was successful in finding my grandfather=92s date of death >from the Ne=
w York Times back issues on microfilm. Most major libraries should have the Times on microfilm (I used Duke library in Durham, NC), and it is very easy to find an old obituary. First you look up the name in the Personal Name Index, a set of books that lists the names alphabetically and covers the years 1851 to the present. I found an entry for my grandfather that gave a year and a page number. You then go to the index book for that year and on the indicated page, find the desired entry (listed alpha). The entry gives a date, page and column for the obituary. You then find the microfilm for the desired date and find the obituary. The microfilms are very good quality. I also found two other mentions of Silverbush, a bankruptcy and one about a Silverbush in the Airforce. Jerry Silverbush, Durham, NC USA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1920's Mt. Zion Burial Societies -NY
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Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
If those Societies still exist, the administrative office at Mt. Zion
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Cemetery will probably have the name and address of a contact. Many societies filled their plots in Mt Zion and later obtained plots in cemeteries further out on Long Island, so you might also check with the administrators at cemeteries like Beth Davis and Mount Hebron. Peter Zavon Penfield, NY PZAVON@Worldnet.att.net DISD123@aol.com wrote in message <58b0da10.248a8332@aol.com>...
Recently I located two relatives that were buried at Mt. Zion Cemetery in
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Times Obituaries
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Jerome Silverbush <jsilverbus@...>
I was successful in finding my grandfather=92s date of death >from the Ne=
w York Times back issues on microfilm. Most major libraries should have the Times on microfilm (I used Duke library in Durham, NC), and it is very easy to find an old obituary. First you look up the name in the Personal Name Index, a set of books that lists the names alphabetically and covers the years 1851 to the present. I found an entry for my grandfather that gave a year and a page number. You then go to the index book for that year and on the indicated page, find the desired entry (listed alpha). The entry gives a date, page and column for the obituary. You then find the microfilm for the desired date and find the obituary. The microfilms are very good quality. I also found two other mentions of Silverbush, a bankruptcy and one about a Silverbush in the Airforce. Jerry Silverbush, Durham, NC USA
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Issie Fine of Montreal - Cousin Please Contact Me
#belarus
Shellyk135@...
Issie FINE recently appeared in the discussion group. He is my cousin via a
POPOK connection. How do I get his e-mail address? Sheldon Kneller Cave Creek AZ ShellyK135@aol.com MODERATOR NOTE: Looks like the discussion group helped to make a connection. Issie Fine's e-mail address that appeared in the header of his message is: <cbsrap@bcs.ca>
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Issie Fine of Montreal - Cousin Please Contact Me
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Shellyk135@...
Issie FINE recently appeared in the discussion group. He is my cousin via a
POPOK connection. How do I get his e-mail address? Sheldon Kneller Cave Creek AZ ShellyK135@aol.com MODERATOR NOTE: Looks like the discussion group helped to make a connection. Issie Fine's e-mail address that appeared in the header of his message is: <cbsrap@bcs.ca>
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Plisa, Belarus to Roises Pt to NY.
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Avrohom Krauss <avkrauss@...>
I also have a question about routes >from Belarus. An immigrant relative
of mine, >from Plisa, Belarus was listed on his Naturalization Papers as traveling on the S.S. "Zeeberland" (probably Zeeland) and arriving in U.S. at Roises Pt. destination N.Y. "via rail". Indeed, he lived in NYC. From the Mortan Allan Directory, I see the "Zeeland" ran Antwerp-NY. I did not find him on the NY manifests. If he didn't come directly to NY City, how did he get to Roises Pt.? Perhaps, he traveled to Canada, crossed the border at Roises Pt. and took a train east to Manhattan. (It would be a bit out of the way to go this route, backtracking, traveling east to west and back east. But it can't be ruled out. The fare may have been cheaper.) However, I checked the St. Alban's lists and had no luck. Anyone have ideas? Avrohom Krauss Telz-Stone, Israel avkrauss@actcom.co.il Researching: ROGOZIN, LAPIDUS, KAPLOWITZ, SOKOLSKY-Vyazyn,Ilya, Molodechno, Vileika, Plisa, Volozhin, BELARUS KLOTZ, Telsiai, LITHUANIA KRAUS, GOTTFRIED,KINTSLICH, MONATH-Rozwadow, Przemysl,Poland Borislov,Wolanka, Tustanovitse, Drogobych, UKRAINE
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Plisa, Belarus to Roises Pt to NY.
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Avrohom Krauss <avkrauss@...>
I also have a question about routes >from Belarus. An immigrant relative
of mine, >from Plisa, Belarus was listed on his Naturalization Papers as traveling on the S.S. "Zeeberland" (probably Zeeland) and arriving in U.S. at Roises Pt. destination N.Y. "via rail". Indeed, he lived in NYC. From the Mortan Allan Directory, I see the "Zeeland" ran Antwerp-NY. I did not find him on the NY manifests. If he didn't come directly to NY City, how did he get to Roises Pt.? Perhaps, he traveled to Canada, crossed the border at Roises Pt. and took a train east to Manhattan. (It would be a bit out of the way to go this route, backtracking, traveling east to west and back east. But it can't be ruled out. The fare may have been cheaper.) However, I checked the St. Alban's lists and had no luck. Anyone have ideas? Avrohom Krauss Telz-Stone, Israel avkrauss@actcom.co.il Researching: ROGOZIN, LAPIDUS, KAPLOWITZ, SOKOLSKY-Vyazyn,Ilya, Molodechno, Vileika, Plisa, Volozhin, BELARUS KLOTZ, Telsiai, LITHUANIA KRAUS, GOTTFRIED,KINTSLICH, MONATH-Rozwadow, Przemysl,Poland Borislov,Wolanka, Tustanovitse, Drogobych, UKRAINE
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Re: Schiffres/Shifres/Szyfres
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irvjs@...
I have found several men [pardon the sexism] with one of the above names
from Grodno but have been unable to determine if any of the other lines arerelated to me. Is anyone familiar with this name which does not seem too common? The Grodno 1912 voters' list in Jewish Gen has 2 Shifres (presumably transliterated >from the Russian): Yankel, son of Leib, Movsha, son of Samuil. Yankel is my gf, Yakov-Meir Shifres. Movsha is probably Moshe, the father of Boris Szyfres who migrated to Argentina and died a few years ago. His son Luis lives in the US <szyfres@erols.com> Moshe apparently had a brother, Isaac, whose son Bernardo Shifres also moved to Argentina. Boris's son Samuel (1927-1993) has a daughter, Otilia, who has also been searching for relatives <operadoras@robinson.datamarkets.com.ar> My gf, Yakov-Meir had 4 sons and 3 daughters. The sons were my father, Israel (1898-1967) who took the spelling Schiffres when he moved to Germany; Motz Schifres who died in Belgium; Benjamin Szyfres who lived in Grodno when it was Polish, and presumably died in the Holocaust and Leibush Szyfres who was deported >from Grodno by the Soviets to Siberia where he died. I do not know if my gf had any siblings. Does anyone know of other Schiffreses >from Grodno? Irwin Jacob Schiffres Rochester, NY
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Schiffres/Shifres/Szyfres
#belarus
irvjs@...
I have found several men [pardon the sexism] with one of the above names
from Grodno but have been unable to determine if any of the other lines arerelated to me. Is anyone familiar with this name which does not seem too common? The Grodno 1912 voters' list in Jewish Gen has 2 Shifres (presumably transliterated >from the Russian): Yankel, son of Leib, Movsha, son of Samuil. Yankel is my gf, Yakov-Meir Shifres. Movsha is probably Moshe, the father of Boris Szyfres who migrated to Argentina and died a few years ago. His son Luis lives in the US <szyfres@erols.com> Moshe apparently had a brother, Isaac, whose son Bernardo Shifres also moved to Argentina. Boris's son Samuel (1927-1993) has a daughter, Otilia, who has also been searching for relatives <operadoras@robinson.datamarkets.com.ar> My gf, Yakov-Meir had 4 sons and 3 daughters. The sons were my father, Israel (1898-1967) who took the spelling Schiffres when he moved to Germany; Motz Schifres who died in Belgium; Benjamin Szyfres who lived in Grodno when it was Polish, and presumably died in the Holocaust and Leibush Szyfres who was deported >from Grodno by the Soviets to Siberia where he died. I do not know if my gf had any siblings. Does anyone know of other Schiffreses >from Grodno? Irwin Jacob Schiffres Rochester, NY
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Verifying Names of Ships/Where write to:
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Phyllis Cole <phylliscole@...>
General Information
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Special Access and FOIA Staff, Room 6350 National Archives at College Park 8601 Adelphi Road College Park, MD 20740-6001 Phone: (301) 713-6620 Fax: (301) 713-7480 ---------------------------------------------- E-mail: inquire@nara.nara.gov for form 81 I wrote to NARA Washington, DC National Archives and Records Administration 700 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20408 http://www.nara.gov/regional/nrmenu.html Nara regional http://www.nara.gov/research/ Research room Phyllis Cole <phylliscole@hotmail.com> ---------- Myra S. Davis" <myrabokpg@juno.com> wrote:
Where do you get form 81 and which NARA address do you use for the
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Verifying Names of Ships/Where write to:
#belarus
Phyllis Cole <phylliscole@...>
General Information
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Special Access and FOIA Staff, Room 6350 National Archives at College Park 8601 Adelphi Road College Park, MD 20740-6001 Phone: (301) 713-6620 Fax: (301) 713-7480 ---------------------------------------------- E-mail: inquire@nara.nara.gov for form 81 I wrote to NARA Washington, DC National Archives and Records Administration 700 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20408 http://www.nara.gov/regional/nrmenu.html Nara regional http://www.nara.gov/research/ Research room Phyllis Cole <phylliscole@hotmail.com> ---------- Myra S. Davis" <myrabokpg@juno.com> wrote:
Where do you get form 81 and which NARA address do you use for the
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